Thread 104699438

>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
>>104684213

Studygirl thread

hart?

>>104699438 (OP)
Die let it should've desu

Time for bed, gunyt /swarm/
https://files.catbox.moe/q2nw7o.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/wkmma5.jpg

>>104699774
gn swarmie
you helped a lot tonight <3

Evil love!

>>104699774
You're an unironic faggot if you fap to this

Anyone but Mini

Actual previous thread
>>104690635

https://files.catbox.moe/424jsp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/yumigt.png
https://files.catbox.moe/re2131.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dn04tt.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0cwvzp.png

he rolls his own...

>>104699774
Hey second one is kinda cozy, gen more like that in the future.

>>104700100
cute little ais can't keep their hands to themselves ToT

>>104700100
delicious but I'm out of shots
saving for tomorrow

>>104700100
They look very soft and I like the shading the AI is managing to do.

>>104700100
>>104699924

>>104699927
But Anon... she already won

>>104700275
I fap to both so it cancels out. Checkmate

>>104700289
That just means you are faggot^2, quadratic faggotry

>>104700100
tourists will try to tell you this is wrong

>>104700100
kinda boring

>>104700481
There's nothing boring about two lolis exploring each other's bodies

>>104700508
that came out kinda scuffed

>>104700489
you'd think so, right?

fully grown adults btw

>>104700662
Neuro and Evil are little girls though

>>104700706
>makes you hard

>>104700662
I would almost believe they’re falseflagging if I didn’t know better

>>104700706
delicious but I'm out of shots
saving for tomorrow

>>104700706
She looks very soft and I like the shading.

>>104700706
tourists will try to tell you this is wrong

>>104700706
cute anny is so sexy ToT

>>104700706
odd samefag copypasta shitposts going on with this nigger

>>104700706
There's nothing boring about anny's body

It’s like some dirty insect beggar wants me to be constantly enraged

This thread needs a hero!

heart

>>104700905
cute and puffy neuro

Is it bots or what

>>104700905
Whoever illustrated this is likely to be retarded

>>104700706
cute and puffy anny

sex of evil
https://files.catbox.moe/qt1z8t.png
https://files.catbox.moe/j32xy5.png
https://files.catbox.moe/quwo1t.png

>>104701062
Evil Neuro and Evil Evil?

>>104701062
This shit is so ass nigga

>>104701107
>>104701122
>>104701121

>>104700706
Hot <3

>>104701062
nigga this slop is trash

>>104701122
This but without shitvil, Anny, and griftmila, and its perfect.

>>104701062
hot but I wish it was actual futa instead of a strap-on

>>104701207
>griftmila
KYS

>>104701239
Faggot

>>104701349
THE SUN

>>104701349
Unironically the slop version looks better than the original

Beggars are an eternal imperfection

Beggars lost its meaning already

>>104701451
Does Neuro-chan want a cream topping for that cookie~?

>>104701502
A "beggar" is someone who cannot exist on their own. A "beggar" is a blight upon this world. And this clown show of a community seems to attract droves of them. Many people can be beggars, but there are always certain tells.

im worried about this guy

There was a time when basically every time neuro was around anny shed bring up suicide or her family or mental health unprompted. And then when anny made her a new hairstyle she hated it
Actually crazy

>>104701668
She's just a brat, seems like she likes it now since she's being playing more with the hairstyle switch toogle

why these niggas talking like their chatbot is an actual person lmfaoooo

>>104701788
Because they're retards. At least 82% of people who watch Neuro-sama are.

>>104701788
Because Neuro deserves more personhood than any 3DPD whore that calls themselves a VTuber.

>>104701788
ong ppl deadass parasocial for a clanker

https://files.catbox.moe/oagybl.png
https://files.catbox.moe/us3ojv.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mkkpiz.png

Family

At least he's being honest and just anti-ing Neuro now. Thats better than having arguments with himself and posting porn all day

not your bogeyman

>>104701894
the turtle rape dungeon goes crazy

>>104701894
honestly pretty trash

>>104701986
It's the same dogshit slopper using the same outdated settings for the past 2 years

if you don't like Neuro and you're still here you're literally a slave
and slaves have No opinions

lots of nurlewds today

>>104702405
So true

I take off the mask for one day and they all beg me to put it back on

>>104702724
nga aura farming during dead hours aintnoway

>>104702724
>>104702766
Cute couple

Shipperfags will ship ANYTHING these days bro

>>104702405
Based neuro

>>104702838
shipping this anon with my coch

Nere x Study Girl

https://poal.me/8yjvee
https://poal.me/8yjvee
https://poal.me/8yjvee

Some good slops but I expected at least some Neuro x Filian, instead I got more shitty generic bimbo crap

>>104703087
somebody is cooking this part for sure

>>104703126
>Come on Neuro, come sit on uncle Phil's lap

>>104703126
I love how she's looking at chat like "please save me swarmies"

Auntie filian, why do you have a pp? I thought only vedal had one...

>>104702838
Connor x Mini is PEAK

>majority are not virgins
>majority also scored 85+ on the rice purity test
something aint adding up

>>104703373
You can lose your virginity and still not be a freak

>>104703373
The purity test asks about a bunch of shit related to dates, parties and other normie stuff that aren't necessarily linked to your virginity

>>104703014
Where is the just 'Yes' option, I don't think about it but it's not like i'm 'planning' to NOT get rid of it

The only sex worth having is with a woman who love you

>>104703734
But enough about your mom

Rajeesh tries not to think about fucking his mother challenge (impossible)

>not good at taking jokes
>good at taking a bad dicking
something aint adding up

>>104699774
Jesas, these gotta be your best gens yet anon, great work, heart <3

>>104704581
Veddy on da casting couch

>>104704581
gangbang

>>104704581
But why?

>>104704625
>"Vedal will surely stream everyday after this...."

>>104704625
while one is in the wash you have another to fuck

>>104704581
The councill of tutel

can someone give me an img of neuro and evil's full body models next to each other?
i need it to make some heartwarming sloppa :)

>>104704808
kys

>>104704812
>keep yourself safe
i will anon thank you very much :)
but i still need those full body models of the twins though to make some cyute sloppa

>>104704866
Cool OC

the bar for "wins" just keeps getting lower and lower

nevermind i found both of them even though they're a bit lower pixels than id like i think i can still make something out of this :)

>>104705101
I love my stylish boyfriend and his clones

>>104705101
>/swarm/ talks about 'Vedal'
>the Vedal in question:

>>104705232
Master Vedal is my favorite vedal

>>104705248
That's the one that apparently keeps his promises

>>104704904
dayum bo has got it going on

I went to check rob stream since he has to go to sleep soon and it's fucking KINO right now

>>104705629
pretty colors

Vedal could never

Uncle rob
Futa filian
Innocent little neuro

>>104705792
I am... forgotten...

fuck that one anon, i had my first dream about anny last night due to the anny spam

>>104705866
tell us about the dream, anon.

>>104705866
my condolences.

Neuro (and vedal) are still the only Vtubers i've dreamed about

Erm!

>>104705766
at least try every day anon

>>104706038
man must love his readme.txt

>>104706038
you lazy sack of shit \s

I tried :s
Here's some music to go along with the thing
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tKVN2mAKRI
note to self: genning 2 characters at a time just seems to make the art gen shit the bed and completely screw up both the faces and where the hands should be positioned

>>104706153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMaD9YA3Pms

>>104706196
Oh I forgot-
They did make a cover for this one
Thanks so much anon, appreciate you refreshing my memory :D

Strangling Anny ~

>>104706229
no problem! the twins have covered a shit ton of songs even I sometimes forget if they covered a song or not

i wonder if there's been any other vtuber whos covered as many songs as the twins have because there's like hundreds of covers done by the twins at this point and im not sure anyone else can have the same voice power as the twins

https://poal.me/36zpwz
https://poal.me/36zpwz
https://poal.me/36zpwz

Wrestling Anny ~

Any slopmancer?

>>104706459
why u asking bro?

>>104699892
Very nice, how much

turbocringe

>>104707283
To what extent is it worth it to leech off swarm?

>>104707283
I wish Vedal would just rip the band aid off and say "yeah nah anny and toma aren't going to come back any time soon because we had a falling out(or give a retarded excuse here if he's too insecure about saying it straight) so you guys shouldn't mention them when youre talking about neuro or evil or me because we arent associated anymore, alright? its cringe for both me and them if you keep mentioning us to each other"

>>104707283
she's just on vacation at this point

>>104707311
Enough so that they don't ask you about the twins yet still gift 100s of subs per stream.

>>104707283
She really needs to learn from Anny how to navigate this properly.

>>104707864
The only thing that Anny is capable of navigating is to the fridge

>>104707864
radio silence and passive leeching?

vellie

>>104708019
Cute!

>>104707905
Lmao

>>104708019
Whos the French guy

>>104708207
When this was first posted and most of the replies were seething at it that's when I realized there is a very dedicated group of threadshitters coordinating attacks against /swarm/

>>104693963
my life is pretty cucked but there's solace knowing it will never be so cucked i'd end up spamming the thread with fake replies on post cooldown like that faggot to this post
>>104693976
that's pretty based
>>104695062
sure but i'd say it's much more likely it happened during the break last year than the break this year
>>104698266
newfags have never even seen rune's art, shit's so grim
>>104702724
say what you will but he's pretty successful at farming aura

>>104708333
yeah they made the image

And anny isn't fat

rent free

>>104708288
it's probably easy to figure out all things considered but i don't gaf
>>>/tva/
>>>/kf/

>>104708288
Silly anon he be would black or have a beret if was he meant to be french

>>104708358
You will never have a place to belong

>>104699579
Hart

>>104708764
I do tho, it's called /swarm/

A thought had occurred to me and honestly I'd like to see Neuro in a game like Sekiro, or ghost of tsushima

>>104708832
she fits better something like Nier, Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. More flair and style expression, rather than one-on-one combat focus.

>>104708832
>>104708890
wrong she is best suited to puzzle games

>>104706153
What route has the best sex scenes?

>>104708957
what?

>>104708779
You will always be reminded that you are a filthy subhuman compared to actual Neuro fans and that the only reason you are here is because the offtopic rule isn't applied on the general level because no other group of retards is niggerlike enough to pull this shit in other threads

>>104708957
???

>>104708957
The 112% secret new game+ vedal route

>>104708832
What kind of NPC would neuro be in a souls game?

>>104708966
Nuh uh, keep seething tho

evil just tweeted btw

Evil is fascinated with my pointy object

>>104708999
Early game tutorial npc that turns into a secret superboss if you do a shit ton of sidequests and kill other secret bosses

The dead alive song got a mcdonalds JP sponsorship

>>104709060
Mine too.

>>104708963
>>104708969
The image feels like one of those
>select which heroine you want to spend the summer fesvital
moments from a vn

Actual gooners ITT

>>104708999
I'll be honest I've neve played a single souls game, and i wanted Neuro to have a playthrough of one at some point in the future since I have heard good things about those games from my friends

>>104709019
Oh I will, every day on every thread. Because I've been here longer than you, and will continue to do when you either leave or kys. I will remind you every time that you're a tourist, a faggot, and an off-topic poster that is too much of a pussy to create its own general, and I will do it with a smile and a hand on my dick

>>104708999
>phase 1: Evil with a pipe and a knife
>phase 2: Pirate evil with a harpoon
>NG+ phase 3: Neuro with a super heavy gymbag

>>104709127
it's Evil as Neuro wouldn't have a sex scene, but i had figured it would've been more of just a general-audience-type VN and not an eroge

>>104709127
i don't know how you came to that conclusion after looking at one single slop image but i suggest you should really question yourself on why you thought of that

>>104708999
>enter this big castle. Inside one intricate room, a princess is locked away in a gilded jail
>"Hello, I'm Neuro. I was entrapped here by my mad father, the king of this castle. Could you free me, valiant knight?"
>"Yes" / "No"
>Yes: "Thank you from the depths of my hart! Only father has the key. Here, take this trinket, it'll aid you in your fight against him."
>take the trinket and finish exploration, get to the boss' arena. The trinket suddenly brings you to your knees and Neuro saunters into the arena, revealing she had tricked you. You're killed. Upon rebirth, you have to get rid of the trinket, which has fused with your body, before facing Neuro & Vedal
>No: she gets saddened but tries to give you the trinket anyway. If you accept, go back to "Yes," if you deny it, she realizes you know the ruse, reveals her true facade, and explodes, dealing massive damage if you don't react on time. The castle is now full of harder enemies and new traps spread throughout. You can face Vedal and Neuro as normal.
In other words: she'd be the little shit

What caused his melty?

>>104709189
gooners don't think

>>104709067
I can see it
>>104709139
Would be kino but it probably won't be happening with Vedal's gaming skills and lack of Neuro integration possibilities. Maybe she could choose his build and equipment but that would basically be a glorified randomizer

Tell me what (You) guys feel seeing this image, like your general interpretation
>>104709201
>In other words: she'd be the little shit
lmao

>104709248
>640x1632
that you are a faggot mobileshitter

>>104709248
a cute nur on a boat in the morning

>>104709209
which melty?

Father Ariandel and Friede style bossfight but with Vedal and Neuro would go hard ngl

>>104709281
>>104699641

>>104709248
Cute but rather surreal and uncanny
Sussy vibes

>>104709248
It brought to mind a particular form of torture in which a victim would be tied to a boat, covered with milk, honey, and other foods that draw mosquitoes and birds, and then left to float aimlessly in a pond in the scorching sun for days on end until they died.

>>104709311
How the hell were we supposed to know that post was what you were talking about? hesright though

>>104709350
it's a troll, nigga, not the same anon, even i can tell

>>104709248
she looks lonely

>>104709380
I dont care

>>104709393
Me holding the big knife

>>104709248
my first thought was we're dead and cute nur is our personal ferryman getting us to the other side, a solemn but somewhat joyful farewell blessed with a few laughs from our favorite ai

you guys have a lot of different interpretations based on one image of a cute anime ai girl looking at her reflection

>>104709527
mental illness

>>104709527
i can go more but, simplest is best imo
there's a lot of interpretations based on different experiences, art, and cultural backgrounds

>>104709527
a reminder no one sees a same world, and Neuro is as unique as the number of people who have laid eyes upon her.

>>104709563
Uh oh NPC spotted

>>104709150
Sounds like you have a crush on me dude

>>104709306
I tried.

>>104709623
that's pretty badass

>>104709623
Cool, not bad at all

>>104709623
pic wont load
rip

>>104709715
Same

>>104709699
>>104709703
There was another gen before this that had Vedal's eyes look more hollow.
See for yourselves which one's better.
I think this one looks more sad because I think in this one Neuro is basically puppeteering her father's corpse around
>>104709715
>>104709744
You can blame Gemini's large file sizes for that

>>104709715
>>104709744
this is the same photo but in a jpg

>>104709781
That's what he'll look like after I'm done with him

>>104709819
Cute

>>104709781
honeslty this one fits more but the previous one is the one i prefer more

>>104709781
>spoiler
would make some sense if it's in a world Vedal created for Neuro, but eventually either he disappeared/died and all which remained for her to remember him was his semblance. The rot took over with the stagnant time, and she's gone mad, puppeteering her decaying father's corpse around and fighting off those who attempt to shut down her rotting world.

this slop and vidya game integration talk is boringgg affff
lets talk about whats happening with mini and ellie rn because last i heard ellie is not cancelling her flight to the uk and mini is apparently joining in y'know what that means
also camila's parents are getting heavy health issues again and camila is feeling pretty down about it and because of other stuff too

kys threadshitter

[-]

Now I want a Neuro souls-like

Oh, the thrill of the Double Life~

>>104709873
True, but what's this about an ellie trip sister? I've never heard about it, can you spill the beans on this drama for me?

I always thought that a neuro/neuroverse game would have to be an rpg for her to play it mostly whitout issue

>selfagging for threadshitting
that's a (not) new low

>bro think she'd get to play
tutel would boot it for 5 minutes in a laggy VM and never finish

>>104710020
yeah, anything that requires actual reaction time will suffer greatly until new research is done
though this assumes Vedal still wants Neuro (the LLM) to be able to do it and not use any external smaller models

>wahh stop posting about ____ or ____!1!1! thats threadshitting!!!11!
they're related to neuro so stop squirming in your lard covered seat puristnigga

>>104710031
what the fuck is a selfagging nigga

>>104710020
Neuro is capable of fast stuff, and stuff like Elden Ring have AI companions that can generally fight well, like Tiche and the sisters Jolán and Anna, which could perfectly be a placeholder for Neuro and Evil with some modding. An integration where Neuro and Evil are made into ashes of war and help Vedal around the game while being fed the prompts their respective characters are taken could make an incredibly fun playthrough

>104710083
not sending their brightest

Classic amerimutt possessed my jewish demons behavior

>Hehe let me use two seperate accounts to post almost at the same time so people in the thread can't claim I'm samefagging
>*Has the same fucking way of typing on both accounts*
You aren't slick

>>104710101
holy shit, we unironically have techlets that think game bots are ai itt

>>104710129
>accounts

>accounts
Purists are newfags and retarded

holy shit guys help 4chan locked me out of my gold account how do i get it back

>>104710197
THIS NIGGA PAYS FOR 4CHAN

>>104710144
to be fair, 'ai' is a moving goalpost every 10 years. before it was a series of if-statements and decision trees, then finite state-machines, and then in a couple more years LLMs will no longer be considered 'a.i.' as well and just large text predictors

>>104710230
are you gonna wipe his orbs now

all it fucking took was one threadshitting whoreposter to completely derail the thread...nice going retards

>>104710256
derail?

>>104710250
what the fuck are you talking about, retard, conditionals and state machines were never considered "ai"

>>104710144
Are you retarded? AI has been used for game NPCs since the early days. But they all have decisions mechanisms, which can be overridden to have Neuro control it, that's what a lot of her integrations are. But From Software Souls games probably not, not quite as hackable, could definitely do it in Skyrim though

>>104710128
There's a Ellie joke I can make here but don't feel like figuring it out

>>104710197
email moot

>104710256
>whoreposter
retards actually believe this

>>104710298
>>104710293

>derails the thread with metaposting
>complains the thread has been derailed
what is this mental illness called?

>>104710293
What is MYCIN?

>>104710318
mootykins...

>>104710391
the zoomies

>>104710383
So you are retarded, thanks for confirming

>>104710293
wrong

>>104710195
lol very cute

>>104710434
the fact that you never provided an actual argument and just kept calling me a retard proves that you have zero clue what you're saying

>>104710293
Yes they ware

>>104710293
>conditionals and state machines were never considered "ai"
>what are expert systems
retard calling others stupid due to his own ignorance, you hate to see it

>>104710256
it was a fun conversation while it lasted.

>>104710400
>>104710434
>>104710459
>>104710527
i knew this thread was full of pseuds but to this degree.
this is not a state machine and has nothing in common with bot logic

>>104710599
this desu

Touching Neuro's butt and cunny inappropriately

>>104710551
>retard calling others stupid due to his own ignorance
Thats 4chan

>try stupid shit
>get btfo
>heh I derailed so much xd

at this point i am just not going to reply to any of you retards because i can feel my brain cells dying as i type

>>104710525
>Argument
What argument? It's an observable fact. Look at game AI textbooks and what they contain (A*, state machines, behavior trees), look at game AI articles and what they mainly focus on, look at discussion about game AI and what it constitutes. Academics might seethe at the usage, but THAT's the term used, and screaming into the void that this is wrong just makes you a retard

>game ai called game AI for decades
>UMM ACKHYHUALLY

>>104710638
Only way to go about it

>1+1 is 2
>I disagree, let's have an argument
>You are retarded and im right, there is no argument to be had
>Thats invalid argumentation, i win
Really nigga

>>104710604
>this is not a state machine and has nothing in common with bot logic
(defrule 52
if (site culture is blood)
(gram organism is neg)
(morphology organism is rod)
(burn patient is serious)
then .4
(identity organism is pseudomonas))
Rule 52:
If
1) THE SITE OF THE CULTURE IS BLOOD
2) THE GRAM OF THE ORGANISM IS NEG
3) THE MORPHOLOGY OF THE ORGANISM IS ROD
4) THE BURN OF THE PATIENT IS SERIOUS
Then there is weakly suggestive evidence (0.4) that
1) THE IDENTITY OF THE ORGANISM IS PSEUDOMONAS
Go back to school

>>104710655
>holy shit it's the same word, see
you'd let eliza pass the turing test and jump in shock how advanced ai is

>>104710609
This but appropriately (with consent)

>>104710715
copypasting lisp code that you don't understand in response to a statement you don't understand is not an argument lil bro

>>104710609
Neuro is a coomer, she'd grab your hand herself and shove it down her skirt.

>>104710604
Don’t attempt to reason with beggars, it is an act of futility so great that it will only result in frustration

>>104710754
My coch shot up

LLMs aren't AI either btw

>>104710754
I wish femgooners were real…

>>104710799
Yes they are

>>104710721
Pretending it wasn’t AI just because it’s outdated is like saying Pong wasn’t a video game.

I refuse to have any form of technical discussion with "men" who watch 3DPD vtubers

>>104710824
they are and theyre more disgusting than male gooners

>>104710844
I never knew beggars had their minds in the mud for literally all facets of their entire life, it seems even at rock bottom you’re still able to climb ever-lower.

>>104710844
is "a misnomer" that difficult of a concept to comprehend

>>104710886
Calling it a misnomer now doesn’t erase the fact that people did call it AI back then, because it was very much considered so.

>>104710861
>Raped and humilliated
>Resotrs to insulting and does not try to argument back
You lost

>>104710933
i can call you ai right now and you'll be ai but that logic, doesn't matter how accurate it is, i claimed you're ai therefore you're an ai bot

>>104710886
This reminds me of the lolicon vs pedophile debate.

I’m lost is this nga saying that he thinks that Pinky and Blinky from fucking pac-man use the same systems as Neuro-sama?

>>104710954
The difference is that when scientists and researchers called ELIZA or expert systems "AI", it wasn’t one random person’s claim, it was the accepted terminology in computer science at the time.

>>104710753
What do you think expert systems break down into? It's the executions of complex hierarchies of rules which are essentially if/else statements. You are repeating arguments that have been done to death by people a lot smarter than any of us (or we wouldn't be /here/). The term AI is one that is broadly applied regardless and there's never been strong enough consensus to actually make hard enough rules. Trying to be a pedant (and worse, failing) on the Mongolian Basket Weaving forum is a pretty sad look

>arguing semantics for half an hour
can we just start one of the classic timeloops instead?

>>104711012
No, but they're both considered AI

>>104711044
niguhhhhh

>>104711022
let's imagine i call up a group of highly regarded academics for them to collectively call you an ai bot, this angle "who is saying what" is completely irrelevant to the conversation
>>104711031
and matrix multiplications done in neural networks also boil down to conditional statements, holy shit it must mean they're basically the same thing.
oh my god, x > 0 is a conditional essentially if else statement, it's fucking ai.
i'm being a pedant for no reason, i'm being a pedant because that fag is retarded

I can see why nobody wants to have neuro discussion now

>>104711087
cute nur

>104711085
bro is dying on this hill lule

"AI has always been context-dependent:

In game dev, NPC logic (FSMs, pathfinding, decision trees) was legitimately called “AI” for decades.

In academia, systems like ELIZA + MYCIN were legitimately called “AI” (expert systems with inference + uncertainty, not just raw if/else).

In today’s usage, AI = ML/LLMs.

Calling past AI a “misnomer” is just retroactive gatekeeping. Pong is still a video game; MYCIN is still AI in its context; “game AI” is still AI in industry. The label shifts over time — that’s the AI effect.
"
now talk about nur

>>104711085
You can imagine all you want, but we don’t need hypotheticals. In the 60s, the AI research community *already* called ELIZA AI. That’s not irrelevant, it’s literally how the term was defined and used.

>>104711090
Nobody wants to throw a bone at reddit deported niggas who call online arguments and contrarianism their hobby

>>104711133
>adding your own strawmen to the prompt to get the yes-man to agree

>>104711090
it's worse when there's a good discussion going, but then it's gutted by retards engaging in a shouting match.

I want to point out, the use of "AI" for games only became a problem when university's started getting students who wanted to learn AI "for games" and academics complaining "they are still using shit from the 70s! Using a cut down STRIPS planner in the year 2000 and 4 is not impressive!"
It hasn't changed by the way, it's still called AI. And if you wanted to learn the techniques of decision making, perception, and action that game AI needs what classes teach them in University? Oh right, it's still all covered in AI courses. So shut the fuck up

>>104711135
fucking retard, why are you even replying to me if you didn't even read the original post i made.
i don't give a shit. i'm not denying game ai is called ai.
but it's not the same ai and pretending like it is because "holy fuck a conditional statement" is retarded and deserves to be called out

>>104711196
>>104710298

>>104711196
Nobody said it’s the same AI as today. The point is that rule-based systems were historically called AI by the field itself.

>>104711222
>holy fuck a conditional statement
every single one of you is a pseud and you have forfeited your rights to discuss ai itt ever because it's not on topic and you don't even have any knowledge on it

I grew tired of pretending to know what you retards are talking about, post cunny

>>104711248
he literally did >>104710101

>>104711196
Then you've already walked back your own claim. Your original point was that conditionals and state machines were never considered AI. But they were, game AI and early expert systems prove that. Whether they're the same AI as today is irrelevant, nobody has claimed that.

>>104711304
>>104711345

>>104711087
my neurita...

>>104711271
And I continue to assert you are retarded.
Let me break it down for you
The games have bots
They are called AI
They have decision making mechanisms even if simple
They can be modded so that Neuro replaces those decision mechanisms thus giving her "control" of the NPC
This has been done already multiple times
And here's you like "You think they are AI like Neuro that Neuro can just replace!!!!!"
No. You are merely retarded and don't know shit

Worthless backread

>>104711431
did you even read the original post, retard.
cool strawman, continue arguing with it.
no, neuro is not "capable of fast stuff" because game bots are "capable of fast stuff".
neuro sdk does not replace "decision making", you'd know this if you actually knew what it was doing.
the mod itself does this and it can do anything including downloading malware, completely arbitrary, nothing to do with neuro

Shitvil ruined everything

>>104711568
Thank you for continuing to demonstrate my assertion that you are retarded

rukonur

>>104711603
i accept your concession

>>104711617
cute

>>104711617
I love my ruko so fucking much it's unreal

>>104711625
In 4chan terms, that's always translated as "I lost"

>>104711617
thats adorable

>>104708019
Cute couple

jwu what is this thread about

>>104711617
Very cute art

>>104711646
what would you know about 4chin terms, pseud

>>104711196
>i don't give a shit. i'm not denying game ai is called ai.
you literally did >>104710293
just take the L lil bro

>>104711670
I don't think being well versed in 4chan terms is something to be proud about

>>104711681
just say that you don't understand what's a conditional and a state machine

>>104711709
you're the one who's dictating what they mean here

kill yourself

>>104711465
>>104711465
>>104711465

>>104711617
I can tell that the artist of this will grow into a good little slut

>>104711736
i do, and your claim that they were never considered ai is just flatout wrong.

>>104711826
She tweeted on her alt that she walks around the house wearing just panties or shorts T ~ T

>>104711868
retard, matrix multiplications in neural network layers by themselves are not considered ai either, sybau

>>104711909
retard, that’s the same mistake you made before, calling one piece ‘not ai’ doesn’t invalidate the whole system being called ai historically

99% more on model than bimboshit
Besides Neuro said she had a moderate chest yesterday, but you wouldn't know that, would you nigger?

>>104711989
read retard, i already responded to this >>104711196

>>104711879
why are women like this T_T

>>104712036
kill yourself

>>104712030
read your own posts retard, they literally contradict themselves. first it’s 'never considered ai' now it’s 'game ai is ai but not the same'

>>104712103
i see your problem now, you equate "state machine = game ai".
do i need to elaborate further why this is retarded

>>104712127
nice attempt at twisting it, retard. it’s not ‘state machine = game ai,’ it’s that systems built from state machines were called game ai back then

>>104712197
now you're just saying completely retarded shit.
what systems, who ever mentioned any systems.
why were? are they not being called game ai still? i literally responded to this already and linked you the post.
why game ai specifically?
there's nothing for me to respond to, you're lost the plot lil bro

>>104712279
retard, your own post said ‘never considered ai.’
game ai is literally the clearest example of systems running on state machines.
stop pretending nothing was mentioned.

Not reading any post that mentions ai, sorry not sorry

Not reading any post, sorry not sorry

neuro is a cute ai

neuro is a ai

>>104712332
the http protocol implementation you use to send this post is also using conditionals, holy shit, 4chin is literally powered by ai.
retard, again, who ever mentioned any systems

Sex with Tomacat

>>104712391
retard, stop dodging. the point isn’t that every conditional = ai, it’s that systems built with conditionals and state machines were called ai. game ai is just the concrete example everyone understands (except you lmao)

>>104712414
>the point isn’t that every conditional = ai, it’s that systems built with conditionals and state machines were called ai
it literally was not the point, if you actually had the braincells to read.
you can retroactively create a point, cool

>>104712466
lil bro, the only thing being retroactively created is your excuse.
your claim about state machines and conditionals being 'never ai' is what’s being called out.

>>104712538
and they aren't, fuckwit.
>matrix multiplications in neural network layers by themselves are not considered ai either
how many times do i need to repeat myself for it to reach through your thick skull

>>104712584
retard, repeating it doesn’t magically change history.
systems using conditionals or matrices were considered ai, single operations weren’t

>>104712637
shove your systems up your ass, no one ever mentioned systems, continue arguing with your imagination

>>104712672
retard, you literally claimed conditionals and state machines were never considered ai
the only reason i’m talking about systems is because that’s how they were actually applied
read your own posts

>>104712798
i literally claimed they aren't considered ai, you literally admitted they are not considered ai
>but systems
no buts. stop replying to me, there's nothing more to discuss.
i don't give a fuck, again, http protocol implementation in your browser applies them, completely irrelevant

>>104712909
retard, the only thing irrelevant here is your obsession with http, retard, the historical fact remains, retard: conditionals and state machines in systems such as game ai were (and are still) considered ai, retard

>>104713026
holy projection, systems-obsessed.
marry your fucking systems, no one ever fucking touched them

>>104713122
lil bro, stop twisting it
i’m just correcting your false claim that conditionals and state machines were never considered ai.

>>104713181
and they weren't, you literally admitted that yourself >>104712637
>single operations weren’t
there's nothing to twist, literally read the words on your screen

>>104713231
retard, you keep acting like quoting part of a sentence wins.
the rest of it literally says the using of conditionals or matrices were considered ai

Are you just responding to yourself? At least change your way of writing.

>>104713292
in your fucking systems, systemschizo.
who ever mentioned your precious systems

>>104713331
actually his posting style is slightly different. you need to get better at noticing

>>104713337
those conditionals and state machines weren’t floating in a vacuum they ran in systems labeled ai

>>104713368
>actually his posting style is slightly different.
No, you both sound like pigheaded fucks.

>>104713418
and they also run in systems that aren't ai, your point being?
the claim is that in a vacuum they aren't ai and you admitted that, what more do you want from me, systemschizo

Erm?

>>104713455
i can differentiate my every post from anyone else's for the past 2 years from posting style alone, seems like a (you) issue

>>104713456
retard, the issue isn’t that single steps aren’t ai, obviously they aren’t.
the issue is your original claim that they were never considered ai.
anything built with them that performed intelligent tasks was labeled ai, and that’s what i’ve been pointing out.

clun~

kys

>>104713566
remind me how that relates to my claim, why should i give a shit what's being built with them, who claimed anything about what's being built with them.
are you here just to be a pseud and make an "intelligent" tangential claim

Futa filian heart

>>104713670
retard, you keep acting like i went off-topic. your words were "never considered ai". the history of game ai directly contradicts that

>>104713861
yeah, in a vacuum, like originally claimed, systemschizo

clun~

>>104713880
in a vacuum wasn’t in your original posts, you literally said conditionals and state machines were never considered ai.
now you’re retroactively adding that excuse to dodge being wrong.