Thread 105312875

Idol Cafe Edition

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Thread rules:

Disregard the previous image, these are the real thread rules

When I see Piller,
I think "fill 'er!"

umm, piwwos? am i cooked?

Gotham time!

>>105314583
I love you

>>105313981
Given the reading trends of lonely women, and that she's headed to a zoo...
Looking grim, Piwwos. Should have just watched her exclusively instead of cheating

>>105316114
nah this book cover goes hard af.

I don't know if it's even worth maintaining this general anymore. Maybe we should drop it and try again sometime. Too many horrible people around atm.

>>105317663
I’m a newpiwwo but I appreciate the positivity this general upholds. Seeing the good piwwos here made me more fond of pillow. Do whatever you feel is best, though.

Painting Pillow's nails because I think I could do a better job but more importantly for the physical contact

>>105317663
Expecting people to behave in any sort of way that you approve of on 4chan is like going into a monkey enclosure and saying the monkeys are very rude for throwing shit at you.

https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1976057392543695019
Pillow's yelps are very cute. I want to watch a scary movie with her and cuddle when she gets frightened.

>>105318416
It's been exceptionally bad lately. I'm tolerant to the occasional schizo thread for that's just the way it is here, but there's been a drop in activity and IPs in /pillow/ whereas that wasn't the case a few months ago. We had the occasional melty but no one left. It's not healthy for a general to decrease in IPs over time, especially for a vtuber who's so harmless, yab-free and approachable as a newfag. She ticks a lot of boxes so we should be growing.

It's some kind of cruel joke that my perfect girlfriend is out there and wants what I want but is completely unavailable to me and will likely remain so forever.

>>105318874
This loser attitude is exactly why she’ll be dating me instead of you

>>105318874
Pillow isn't perfect. The girls around you hiding indoors like her who you never see or notice also aren't perfect but they, too, probably want a bf and are affection-starved. Find a cute local Pillow. I want to find an Olive for myself. Even if just for the autistic unenthusiastic handjobs.

>>105318935
I said she's *my* perfect girlfriend. I know she has flaws, but I accept them because they're part of her and I love all of her.
>Find a cute local Pillow.
That's probably what I'll end up trying to do. I know I can't play pretend forever.

>>105318780
>yab-free
Eh if her best friend in all of vtubing is a GFE streamer that is fake as hell and loves NTR and casual sex than it's going to create a lot of paranoia and suspicion no matter how sincere Pillow herself may be. Combine that with the usual background cuckposting these threads have and it's no surprise that less people are showing up in them.

>>105318935
She's definitely not perfect, but she's perfect in all the ways I particularly give a shit about. I don't give a fuck about looks, I don't mind that she's mentally ill and shit, I care mostly about the fact that she's a modest, kind, and highly affectionate woman.

>>105319128
I won't say what I want to say to you because Pillow wouldn't like it.

>>105319128
"Her friend is shitty, so clearly she's exactly the same as her and is also shitty" this is the kind of retarded takes antis have. Literally the girls themselves highlight the fact that they're very different people EVERY COLLAB.

>>105319439
There's still a moral line. Being friends with people who financially exploit lonely men in the meanest way possible, men just like piwwows and Pillow being fine with Alias just because she doesn't do it herself is, well, not a great look. Should she cut her off entirely for it? No. Will their continued public-facing friendship cause additional friction for Pillow moving forward as a vtuber who creates similar content? Most likely.

>>105319952
Honestly, that's a big issue she constantly faces, and the real reality is that like 99% of GFE vtubers think that way. Particularly the bigger ones, because at a certain level of size you have dealt with too much psycho shit and can't pay enough attention to your fans to actually see them in a decent light. There's a reason why most of the big GFE girls eventually have some scandal where it comes out they were talking shit about their fans. Pillow will not do that because she's a wonderful girl, but I also think she's going to eventually have to grapple with some of the issues of GFE because of that. I suspect she'll actually just start intentionally nerfing her growth a shitload so that she can stay at a comfortable size.

>>105320010
>I suspect she'll actually just start intentionally nerfing her growth a shitload so that she can stay at a comfortable size.
Assuming she doesn't change her mind about being picked up by a corpo, I think that's likely. At that point she needs to focus more on turnover than growth, for the current batch of piwwos aren't going to be around forever for some will move on for whatever reason and she needs to pull in as many as she loses, and not all of them will be of the same quality.

I've barely looked into this thing with Pillow's friend but it seems like a stupid thing to be mad about, and certainly not something to drag Pillow into by association. If you've ever felt "financially exploited" by one of these women whose job is pretending she's your girlfriend, you're a pathetic loser, and that's coming from someone who's never had a girlfriend and therefore has the most to lose from finding out that these women aren't who they seem. Based on what she's told us, I'm sure that Pillow is more or less the same person offline, but in general you're an idiot if you assume that about anyone who performs a character for a living.

>>105320158
she sold wedding ring merch bro, that's Rushia-tier

>>105320085
Issue is that she really doesn't like to consider the idea of Piwwos abandoning her, and that's going to be one of those things she learns over time and has to accept.

>>105319006
As this Piwwo said, they can't play pretend forever. Sure, she might have a couple Piwwos that are particularly devoted, but it'll still hurt her heart to see the Piwwos moving on. It bothers her enough to see Piwwos change their oshi marks on twitter, enough that's commented on it before, now imagine how bad it'll hurt if she goes and checks on the account of a Piwwo she hasn't seen in a while and sees they got married? She's got a lot of lessons about what it is to be an entertainer and streamer that she'll have to learn over time.

>>105320158
The available outcomes for GFE are:
-The girl has a massive scandal and loses a shitload of her audience, she then jumps ship like Rushia to go build a new persona and restart the cycle.
-The girl continues working as a vtuber, eventually stops with the GFE as her mindset changes.
-The girl continues with GFE without issues and eventually just retires as a vtuber when she gets to the age that she wants to have all the shit she's been ignoring in favor of staying single for chat. This is considered the best ending in idol culture.

Frankly, if I didn't like Pillow enough as a person to want to support her even without the GFE, and if I didn't want to date her IRL, I woulnd't allow myself to have feelings for her. It's stupid to lash yourself to a ship that you know has a lifespan of maybe a decade max.

>>105320158
Even if it was another vtuber completely outside of Pillow's friend circle, it's still another hard piece of evidence that women who make that kind of content can be unnecessarily evil. A lot of Alias' fans didn't know about her background because they don't go digging for it. Pillow being friends with Alias isn't an insult on us, but it will feel like it to the fans who got burned by Alias.

GFE is always going to be exploitative and I agree that you have to be retarded to feel like you're not opting-in to being deceived and lied to for a temporary escape, but what Alias did is a major blow to the community of vtubers who make that content and although piwwows won't budge on their opinion of Pillow, everyone else will because they have absolutely zero sunk cost with her. They'll click on Pillow's channel, scroll through her content and think 'pff fuck that', not realizing they're likely missing out on a a rare gem who gets just as much out of the parasocialism than they would.

>>105320303
I already suspect that Alias schitzo is a former Booquet that is just salty and seething that his oshi, who was VERY obviously exploitative for the whole fucking time, turned out to be exploitative. For anyone on the thread who isn't loyal to Pillow, I'll give you a hint: If the girl seems to care more about extracting money from you than she does about hearing about your day, then she's a fraud. Pillow makes a shitload of personal financial sacrifices so that she can treat the Piwwos well. She'd turn off superchats if she could, she'd make merch free if she could, I mean fuck that's basically what she did for the first plushie line since she gave it all to charity.

>>105320363
>If the girl seems to care more about extracting money from you than she does about hearing about your day, then she's a fraud
I saw how effective Alias was at getting people to donate to Pillow's animal charity event and although that's a good thing, she was hyper focused the whole time on the donation goal. Nene joined in a little but wasn't as obnoxious about it and enjoyed being part of the event and with her friends.

>>105320466
Wow she wanted Pillow's event to be successful and to raise lots of money for charity that she would see none of? She sounds like a monster.

>>105320499
The point is she was very good at getting men to get their wallets out compared to the other guests who focused more on providing entertainment during their segment. It was my first time properly watching her and it made me uncomfortable how good at it she was, so I can only imagine she was like that with her own content, if not worse.

>>105317663
Personally I would just keep the thread off the board while Pillow is away the schizos are just gonna be even worse.
Just looking now it seems like they're samefagging for no reason.

>>105320550
Pillow did also mention that Alias does exactly that shit every other time she's on stream too. She said something along the lines of "Usually when we collab I try to reign you in from asking for stuff, it's so embarrassing because I shouldn't, because it's for charity."

Explicitly saying that Alias always tries to squeeze the viewers wallets, and that Pillow usually reigns her in.

>>105320577
it's not that hard to report their post. they usually get a temporary ban after their post is taken down. i don't mind if you pause the thread for a while. i just like reading ppl's conversations.

>>105320181
And? What did people think that meant?

>>105320727
I know it's not hard to report, the problem is are the mods going to actually do something with the report? Usually they don't when I report things.

>>105320760
Well it certainly wasn't symbolic of taking multiple pissy dicks in her mouth

I'm not seeing what the problem is with this discussion there are good points being raised here. Don't think anything is worth playing thread janny over or deleting the thread.

>>105320957
People sleep around now. It's sad, but how is anyone shocked or disappointed?

>>105320977
The fact the only discussion is literally about Pillow's friend being a whore and these faggots trying to make piwwos think that Pillow herself is a whore too.
You need to fuck off since you're too dense to understand the problem that you're helping create.

>>105320977
I'm deeply confused about what some of the Piwwos even want to be posted. I hear complaints about hornyposting, complaints about schitzoposting, it kinda seems like some Piwwos just want thread to be nothing but sitting and talking about how cute Pillow is. We do that every stream and on the Discord, 4chan is for combat.

>>105321076
The solution is winning the arguments and reinforcing Pillow's solidity. That's why it's actually nice when antis come in and try to spread shit, because you can go and look into it, find that it's bullshit, and that makes you trust and love Pillow more.

Unless you're a pussy, but I can't help you if you're a pussy.

Obviously there's no actual piwwos here.

>>105321248
I'm piwwo that is capable of entertaining multiple ideas and points of view without throwing a tantrum.

Slightly offsetting the horizontal and vertical position of Olive's beige CRT monitor when she goes to pee to make her seethe when she gets back.

>>105318780
>IPs
and where you get that? are you a mod or janny?

>>105321373
No you don’t get it, you’re only a true Piwwo if you’re perfectly comfortable simping till the day you die and have no thoughts higher than “Pillow cute”

Just come home to 8ch already

>>105321585
No you don't get it, to be a piwwo you need instigate that Pillow is a whore and you also need to be a schizocuck poster.

>>105321585
>>105321822
I am the every piwwo.

>>105321822
The fact that you fags keep conflating Pillow ever potentially changing where she stands on GFE as her being a whore is very telling. She doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.

>>105321903
I have 8 IPs I hotswap across, I am the whole thread, even you.

>>105321373
I get it you're an anti

>>105321921
Good job Columbo but I never spoke about that even while you and the other schizo were arguing and saying pillow is a whore.

Pillow is my beautiful angel.

We should move to 8 desu

>>105321938
I KNEW IT!!!

By the way I would like to point out that the cuckposting happens at the same time every day ie SEA time

>>105323147
i actually typed 'desu'. i have no idea how it auto-corrected to 'desu' instead. it sounds cringe af.

I think it’s nice when we talk nice things about pillow instead of everyone yelling at each other…

Pillow preaches a life of kindness and happiness. She says be the best you, help others smile, make friends,… and yet…..

It does make me feel a little bit sad when I’m here rather than happy. It’s scary seeing everyone throwing punches at each other and arguing over things…

>>105323299
It's ALWAYS the SEA

I could make a thread on 8ch after this

>>105323514
Anything people care about to a sufficient degree will result in them fighting over it. It doesn't help that a lot of the schtizos tend to be particularly rude

>>105323508
'DESU'

WHYS IT KEEP AUTOCORRECT???

>>105323524
What would even be the difference

HOW???

>>105323550
I'm going to miss my wife so much

>>105323541
>>105323565
How new are you? Even I knew about that one.

>>105323541
retardwwo...

>>105323571
Me too, but she’s been wanting to make this vlog for a long time so I will hold out for her

>>105323541
Lol he doesn't know about word filters.

>>105323556
It would because the thread maker is also the mod.
I don't particularly wanna go there but it is an option.

>>105323655
I feel like Pillow would be telling that Piwwo to go touch some grass if she found out they were a janny.

I'm not going somewhere else so one of you can play janny and delete every post you don't like. Just put up with them like the rest of us.

>>105323699
If you don't like what someone says, just rape them. it's in the rules.

>>105323581
cuz im not a keyboard warrior you dumbass. ugh....

>>105321921
Buddy
She literally cried on stream about you all not exclusively watching her. And you expect her to not whore out in revenge? Haewon will just egg her on, as will others. You all should have given up other girls but you didn't because your dicks are bigger than your hearts. I will watch in glee as this spirals out of control- because the one girl who was good and kind, who was a beautiful flower you tossed into the dirt like the ungrateful monkeys you are.

I bet she wears panties with very cute, childish and silly designs

>>105323905
Please keep your ugly and hateful schizo ramblings out of my Pillow threads.

>>105323944
She is pretty innocent

It's stressful being a piwwo sometimes

olove

>>105323905
It does appear that this particular Piwwo is extremely schitzo and bitter. Continue seething, it only makes your heart uglier, meanwhile I will continue hitting on Pillow.

>>105324213
There's something very hot about her

>>105324156
Yeah but atleast pillow makes me happy so the stress caused here is nothing in comparison to the stress I deal with at work on a bad day.

>>105324290
it's the "gf's best friend" draw

>>105324326
so my future wife?

Wow, I sure love waking up the same time as my wife, Pillow, and not reading the post made whilst I was playing with her in the dream world.

olive giggles heals your soul

Sex with Olive whilst she has a vacant face thinking about where she’s going to buy a compatible old power supply for her retro PC

is there an olive stream happening now or do we just love olive

I wonder if Pillow knows how erotic her roommate is to her fans

>>105325087
I’ve been hornyposting Olive since the goth outfit reveal. Seeing how supportive, multitalented, cute and motherly she is towards Pillow made me fall in love hard. Olive deserves head pats, spooning and orgasms, too.

>>105325099
Let's hope she doesn't because if Pillow did find out she'd be distraught and end up moving out into yet another derelict apartment.

>>105325264
She’s jealous enough over the Piwwos asking for more mommy voice that she has entirely stopped doing voice acting. If she saw Olive horn posting she’d freak out.

>>105325264
>>105325745
Pillow would still prefer Oliveposting over some cute indie vtuber

>>105325099
She reads this place daily. And Olive is probably one of the posters

>>105325877
I wouldn't doubt if she does check it, probably not daily though.

Opening tight container lids for Pillow

Pillow leg locking me with her lanky long legs until I put triplets in her tummy

Has Pillow been on a flight before? I assumed she never traveled long distance but she doesn't seem too freaked out by it.

>>105326425
Yeah for her last vlog and when she visited family

Pillow laying down on top of you, chest to chest. Gently stroking Pillow’s back to soothe her to sleep

>>105327259
If I just experienced this I could die happy.

>>105327259
>sleep dribbles on your shoulder

Pillow if you're reading this, that weather tweet is bad opsec. Please be careful.

Pillowjob.

>>105327925
People are gonna figure out what zoo it is anyway.

>>105329127
I could use a pillowpantyjob today

>>105329497
I'm talking about on the day whilst she's there.

>>105327925
>>105329127
QRD on the slug?

>>105330479
Right up the butt

>>105330277
Yeah I realised after I posted that. She'll be fine though.

She genuinely has the most pretty hands I've ever seen and I've watched a lot of handcams over the years. Painted nails are always hot but her natural nails make her look so dainty and pure.

>>105331076
I agree. She's still a little embarrassed but I'm glad she shows them off more.

>>105329127
I wouldn’t last a minute if she did that to me.

So, who’s gonna be the brave Piwwo who lewds Olive?

>>105332820
I want to commission something a little lewd with her and Pillow but I don't know if the wider piwwo community sees Olive in the same way we do.

>>105332920
The wider Pillow community doesn’t even see Pillow in a lewd way. Though, I have seen a few call Olive cute though. Pillow even got a little upset at a Piwwo calling Olive cute on Twitter

>>105333244
>The wider Pillow community doesn’t even see Pillow in a lewd way
I very much doubt that. She's extremely erotic in her own silly way. She kind of reminds me of Hololive Nene where their goofy personalities and sexy bodies clash. They also love bugs.

Pan searing a prime rib eye steak for Pillow

https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1976394219687121342
Pillow is good.

>>105334469
what a cute mofo

>>105334469
Piwwos named a kitten after the autism slug toy Olive puts up both their butts?

>>105334469
That is a distinguished cat

Set my alarm for the wrong time, was 10 mins late to stream. Going to kill myself

>The cowboys and mafia are... boyfriends
FujoDear...

>>105337855
from the yee to the haw.

I approve of Pillow's restaurant plans

Be careful when going to the zoo piwwos. Zoo's could be a cover for android facilities!

Wife Gone.

what now?

cry

Pillow should come chat with us here while she's away. The most degen Piwwos need their Pillow Time too.

Alrighty boys time to mope.
I'm gonna listen to her asmr's until she comes back.

Do you think she brought buttslug with her or does it stay with Olive in her butthole the whole trip?

Pillow mentioned the Peanuts movie in stream and I had a flashback to this moment https://files.catbox.moe/1h2tu8.mov

Crime will be eradicated from Gotham!

>>105345412
Jacking off to this thanks

I missed her goodbye stream. I had another Pillow dream and this one hurt.

>>105345412
lol thank you, that cheered me up. Peanus.

Seriously where do I begin looking for someone like her? It's impossible. I don't even know if I'll be able to love someone else the same way.

It’s so over.

>>105314583
The piwwo this thread needs.

I can't stop thinking about her and it hurts.

I've had some shameful lapses recently, but I really want to devote myself to her.

I might start re-watching her really early streams from the beginning whilst she's away. I need that soft voice to keep the dark thoughts away whilst she's gone.

>>105346608
What piwwo does this thread deserve?

>>105347479
buttschizo

>>105348171
It's always funny seeing her interact with whores and cunny enjoyers. I saw a clip where a couple of the Vallure girls were talking about how they feel awkward raiding her streams and feel like whores in a church.

>>105349383
Pillow secretly wants to be molested by a hot anime girl. She's so submissive.

Piwwos better not cheat on her whilst she's away. No watching GFE vtubers.

>>105351096
Don't worry Olive, I'm a loyal man. I'll take good care of Pillow when she marries me.

>>105351109
How much would I have to pay you to send me Olive's panties once you marry Pillow?

https://x.com/neonshrine_shop/status/1976489056788939169
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>>105351134
I would never disrespect Olive in that way, but I would gladly introduce you to her, I am sure she is terrible at finding boyfriends. Of course, it probably wouldn't work out, but I would wish you luck.

There is nothing going on in the middle of the US. I’m never gonna see Pillow at a con unless I save up my money to travel to a huge con in California some day

>>105351191
Now you know a fraction of our (Europeans') pain.
It's worth joining PillowCord for the occasional M&Gs.

>>105351224
We do have the MCM London event, that's going to be pretty fun. Granted, it's a very impromptu 1-hour M&G, but I figure it'd be a good excuse for Pillow to see my handsome face so she can goon to it.

Tracking Pillow's flight to make sure she lands safely.

It feels like it’s getting a bit late, hope Pillow doesn’t miss her flight

Thank you guys for a gifted membership to Pillow that was very thoughtful

>>105351294
deploying gps jammer so she lands on my house

I can feel withdrawal symptoms already

>>105353180
It's about 7am rn, but also considering her she's the type that'd rush there and only say something once she's there.

>>105353391
Yeah Pillow shouldn't be liveposting her journey, as much as it makes us worry to not get updates. All I would like to know is that she's okay and everything is going to plan, not any specifics.

>>105353201
You're welcome?
I'd send piwwos memberships if we could buy them for individuals rather than random viewer selection.

>>105353421
I was getting a bit worried last stream since she wasn't being too good with the OPSEC. Mentioning that where she was going was a large city, with 2 zoos, and specifying what days she's going to be at the zoo. WIth the context of her weather posting, not too wise.

It's unlikely to be an issue for her, but all she really needs is a few Piwwos that are schitzo enough to just go to the zoo that match the descriptions a few times this week and she could run into an issue.

hello yes how long is Pillowdear going to be gone????

>>105353469
Maybe she wants a piwwo to find her and give her a hug...

>>105353522
Next Wednesday I believe is when she comes back but I think the welcome back stream is Thursday.

Oh that’s not bad. I hope she has a good time!!

Pillow visiting the farm section of the zoo with horses and ponies and getting very aroused

>>105353687
Grass fed free range Pillow!

Pillow walking around the ponies on all fours hoping to get mounted from behind

>>105353687
>>105353833
I wanna give her a carrot and some headpats

>>105353687
>>105353833
Putting a leash and collar on Pillow and tying her up to a fence post for personal use

c-come back...

>>105355592
hand-feeding pillowpony and brushing her long hair

>>105355609
We must be strong

We got this we must remain strong for our wife

Sitting at your desk in your home office, trying to get work done. Pillow sneaks up behind you and rolls your chair back a little. Pillow sitting on your lap as you try to continue working from home

>>105357699
>feels something hard digging into her ass cheek

My chat messages are a little too out of pocket for her to say out loud but I can tell when she sees them and laughs out loud.

How do we convince a cute cosplayer to cosplay as Pillow with a virgin killer sweater along with panties that have pink and white stripes?

>>105358636
I never type anything that really gets a reaction from her so I might go back to lurking instead of chatting.

>>105359017
Would Pillow be upset if we masturbated over a cosplay of her?

>>105359385
Too stacked but I can pretend they are simply very big pads in here

It's not my wife if she isn't built like a 14 year old boy.

>>105359441
she stuffed some unwashed panties in there as a surprise for when you take it off

>>105359514
That's hot

>>105359514
That's nasty and disgusting and I'm not thinking about it and I don't have a massive hard on right now

I hope her journey went/is going smoothly.

Why is she away for so long if the zoo visit is only for a day?

>>105360522
Did she say she's only going for one day? Well, she needs time to do the idol cafe as well.

>>105360725
Idol cafe is probably going to take the whole day for her to do. It's only 2 hours long, but it's appearantly got some LiDAR shit, so it's probably gonna need complicated setup, so that's minimum a few hours to prep beforehand. I wouldn't be surprised if that whole day was devoted to just doing the cafe and then trying some restaurants out.

Not to mention that if she's going through the trouble of Ubering to the airport and flying a few hours, she's not gonna want to just stay a single day. She misses us, but this is an opportunity to travel a bit and spend time with her friend.

This general will be super schizo and blue balled by Thursday. Enjoy the relative peace.

I've been skimming these threads this week and it's really amazing how they're exactly like /pyon/, right down to the janny piwwow.

Pillow is having sesbian lex with another girl…

>>105361333
Cheating Piwwos shall be executed by firing squad!

>>105361333
What janny piwwo?

>>105361333
12 hour stretches with only the occasional hornypost and then several hours of drama and threadshitting, repeated daily? Honestly true.

>>105361408
I feel that Pillow has been stalking my dead twitter account...

I do wonder which vtuber Pillow is going with. It’s unlikely to be Alias, because she’s in hot water right now and Pillow is the type that would just not mention her in that situation.

>>105362671
Pillow was literally in a Haewon stream a few days ago

>>105363089
True.

>>105362671
Wouldn't this trip have been planned before all of that?

>>105363506
Yeah, but I figure that if she knew her friend was in hot water, she'd be changing her language to "A friend" instead of a "vtuber friend". Because refering to them as another vtuber suggests they'll show up in the vlog as it's basically a collab for them.

>>105362671
Someone said it might be Raki. She was at Target a few hours ago doing some "last-minute" shopping and doesn't have any streams scheduled until next Friday, so it seems plausible.
https://x.com/ganbaraki/status/1976633541199810849

As much as I’d love to speculate, I think I’m going to wait a month to find out for sure. She’s going to a zoo with a friend who frequents zoos, and she’s been to this zoo in particular as well as another one that’s within the area. Anybody know any VTubers who are friends with Pillow and frequents zoos?

>>105364059
Toffee

Pillow is British.

>>105366798
Pillow is really small but at least she fills out the gloves. How tiny is Shondo for those tiny gloves to look big on her?

>>105366870
She is extra fun sized

I don't know why she can't tweet at all?

>>105370097
She's traveling, it's not fair to expect her to tweet when she's probably stressed out and tired. I'm sure she'll tweet more once she's there and has had time to rest.

>>105370710
Yeah that's what I was going to say. People really shouldn't start worrying just because she isn't giving us regular updates.

IM NGMI

Pillow, my love...

>>105370710
>>105370805
just one tweet such as 'I'm okay! Will talk soon!'. Absolutely zero communication is a bit...cold?

>>105370995
you're not a piwwo you're just trying to stir shit up

>>105371047
I'm a piwwo. Just expected something from her by now considering how clingy and chatty she usually is. It feels like we're not even on her mind. It takes 1-2 minutes to tweet that she's okay and will chat later. She's probably been on her phone most of the time.

>>105370995
>>105371210
Oh, go away. She has a lot on her mind. If you're really one of us then you should know better and trust her always.

I am Pillow's black bf. Nice to meet you.

>>105371274
This isn't even about trust? It's about showing a little respect to your fans. Just before she went she was complaining about not having both airpods, meaning she was going to be on her phone. I don't know why you're trying so hard to defend her with this. This is cold behavior towards us.

don't fall too deep into the parasocial gfe hole. just saying. she's a cute girl but we don't know her and we shouldn't expect her to be something special for us. you're going to be disappointed or angry if you set your expectations too high.

>>105371342
It is about trust, because you're saying that her lack of communication is cold and disrespectful, rather than because she's probably stressed and thinking about lots of other stuff while travelling across the country. I'm "defending" her (even though she's done nothing wrong) because I love her and hate seeing people, especially who claim they're piwwos, questioning her intentions.

>>105371485
Fine. I'd like to see what excuse she has for not finding 2 minutes to tweet then.

Ah, not even a day has passed and the schizo posters are already here. Wonderful.

I will support Pillow even when she gets pregnant. She will be a cute mom.

Pillow is in a long-distance relationship. This trip is actually her going to meet him and stay at his place for a while and she’s meeting up on one of the days with a vtuber friend who’s relatively local to the area and will be vlogging that day. If she says she’s at a hotel or her friend’s place if she does something like a Twitter space, it’s probably the bf’s place. That’s also why she’s not communicating because she’s occupied with him and they want to make the most of the time they have together. That also explains why she can get away with looking single by living with Olive but she could easily be in a long distance relationship and lying to us.

>>105371581
She doesn't need an "excuse". You know she probably feels really bad about it, right? She'd feel even worse if she saw what you were saying.

Pillow also visited her boyfriend when she saw her ‘grandma’ earlier in the year. She’s lying to you. Her friendship with Alias says a lot.

Checking into the thread for the first time today was going to ask piwwos for help deciding which Rune Factory Azuma girl to marry that resembles Pillow. Looks like this is a bad time.

>>105371794
True if big

She’s not friends with vtuber whores like Alias and Vallure because she’s kind, nonjudgmental and tolerant, it’s because she doesn’t give a fuck about you and is just a grifter like them and is in no position to judge. She’s just good at playing the good pure helpless girl act and she’s got you all so good you probably read my posts like I’m utterly deranged. You won’t allow yourself to even consider that this might be the truth and she might be a bad person.

was papa november right?
he saw it before any of us...

Without Pillow, /Pillow/ falls to threadshitters

I'd take the antis more seriously if they committed to a single narrative and did the schizo legwork to actually provide evidence. But all they do is post low effort FUD that can apply to literally any vtuber. Easy enough to ignore these kinds of people, very low intellect.

>>105371210
This type of shit is exactly why I say that a lot of Pillow don’t even love her, they’re just emotionally dependent and need constant validation. If you genuinely care about a girl you don’t start slinging shit the second she’s not catering to your feelings.

>>105372984
I don’t blame em, it’s not like there’s anything to exploit with Pillow. She’s consistent and extremely honest, the only thing they can really do is make shit up and pretend like it means anything in the face of her years of being open and honest with you.

The Piwwos continue to love and trust Pillow. Business as usual

I trust Pillow but I still suffer from Pillow withdrawals. I hope she's able to tweet sometime during the trip

I’m sure she’ll tweet sometime later tonight. She’s probably getting held up by something. I’ve never been on an airport but traveling from a small town to a big city sounds stressful. I just hope everything is alright and that she’s safe and sound

>>105333670
olive is such a lucky girl

How morally wrong would it be to lewd Olive while Pillow is away?

>>105374023
A bit but there's always a couple of Olive sexposts here and there so I dunno

Guys this isn't any kind of commentary on attachment being bad or some gay shit like that but PLEASE train yourself to emotionally self regulate yourself for AT LEAST a 24 hour period. Maybe even 48 hours! You can do it! I believe in you!
also, anybody who piggybacks off this comment to make some sort of ulterior point or jab of some kind is a faggot; some capacity for emotional self regulation is a good thing and that is the post and that only thing this post is about

You telling me to be emotionally healthy?
I don't know, man. Seems kinda gay.

hello please recommend to me your favorite piller vods to watch while she’s away

>>105374789
you're right but the people freaking out right now are not piwwos
this is all from some SEA monkey that just got new shitposting material from a catalog thread.

>>105375619
I have no idea who this is, also
>Kou Mariya
oof

>>105375619
so fucking jealous

>>105375619
Pillow’s not even following her, thought this was could be a first update but Pillow going to her own cafe would be insane for her, she would never

https://x.com/emiliyafell/status/1976712080708583617
I just realized this is probably gonna be some of the first news Pillow gets upon landing and actually checking her phone properly. I hope it doesn’t sadden her too much

https://x.com/pillowhoney/status/1976839536136339632
We are so back

https://x.com/maribunVT
This is who Pillow is hanging out with. This is one of Pillow’s oldest and first VTuber friends. Pillow has spoken of her ever since some of her earliest streams back in 2023, but they’ve never collabed in any capacity before

>>105377838
"we"

The sun has set and Gotham is in danger!

>>105379150
Yes, her and Maribun retard

good night pillow I love you

>I really don’t mean to be rude but would it be okay if I could quickly tweet at my fans to let them know I’m safe and with my friend? Some of them are probably worried and I’ve given them no updates since leaving
>Of course!
Is that so hard? Her friend is also vtuber so she would get it. Pillow was probably scrolling away on twitter anyway and just let us worry for no reason.

>>105381999
She wasn't scrolling on twitter, she was catching up and getting sushi with her friend, chill out schitzo.

>Is that so hard?
Yeah my penis. My cute autistic wife who struggles with even basic social cues was too busy gargling down my hard penis to make a tweet. She's so cute, I love her.

>>105382130
You're a liar, because I was fucking Maribun while she watched from the cuck chair this whole time.

>>105382124
2 minutes. Wouldn’t she have messaged her family, Olive and other close friends letting them know she’s okay? Why did she leave us out?

Imagine getting sushi with your friend before letting your mom and Olive know you’re safe.

>tweet daily at your obsessed fans for years about the most mundane things like little chores and feeling sleepy or hungry and what food you might order or random thoughts you have
>they get very used to that communication and insight into your life, always thinking about you
>go on a big trip which can be quite risky with a lot to go wrong
>go radio silent with your fans, the same fans you were venting at a day before over losing a little airpod
Thank you Pillow.

this bait is unusually ineffectual and that's saying something

>>105383556
Bitches being THIS needy and emotionally dependent over a perfect angel like Pillow is genuinely very pathetic. Sobbing and shitting your pants because she's enjoying her traveling and time with her friend that she hasn't seen in years, is just ridiculous. Seriously, I very much pray you Piwwos keep your brainworms to these threads, because Pillow doesn't deserve that kind of baby shit in her presence.

https://x.com/neonshrine_shop/status/1976858643619627231
Will you be sending her any gifts, piwwos?

>>105383979
Very cute, though I'm already working on a surprise I'll give her when she gets back from traveling. My goal is to make her cry happy tears.

Rewatching Pillow's watch-along of La La Land and it's so sad how much her voice breaks up whenever she talks about the romantic things she's never experienced.

"It looks so nice to dance with someone like that. I've never done it before, it looks so nice..."

>>105386077
...you haven't gotten to the end of that watchalong, have you?
Anyway, as a person who clearly intends to do this her whole life, something people in this thread don't consider much is technology in general. Just something to think about.

>>105386077
Didn't know about this. Might watch it later to upset myself.

>>105386077
And? At least she has plenty of friends. That's more than be said for some piwwos (e.g. me).

>>105383841
Yeah it's one thing to completely ruin these threads but posting somewhere Pillow might see to make her feel bad would be unforgivable.

>>105386702
Look man I'm in the same position as you but I still feel bad for her. I know how she feels missing out on romantic experiences. Even the friends she has are mostly online and she rarely sees in person.

>>105386702
I think a lot of Piwwos have a very distorted expectation for others because frankly a majority are kissless virgins who are overjoyed at the concept of even speaking to a woman, even if it's as a simp in chat. Normal and functional people tend to want a bit more than that. Saying "Yeah, well I have heart palpitations when I speak to anyone that isn't my Mother, so you shouldn't yearn for anything more than that!" Doesn't fly. Pillow is a popular, successful, charismatic, and attractive woman. She could choose to have whatever she wants, she chooses the Piwwos every single day, but don't mistake her yearnings for romance for anything else.

>>105386759
Also nearly every friend she has is a vtuber, because basically everyone that she interacts with online is a Piwwo, and as much as she loves Piwwos she can't actually trust them. Even the girl Piwwos, since she knows how it can get sometimes. Thus, basically the only people she can really trust are other vtubers who also tend to be extremely busy since most vtubers are working full-time on top of their streaming schedules and barely keeping up.

>>105386729
You will keep pushing this nice guy angle until it bites you in the ass one day. If no one is honest about how she's making them feel, even if they're in the minority with their feelings, then she'll never improve as a streamer or see things from our perspective.

The way she handled her communication was unfair, only because of how clingy and talkative she usually is about the little things that goes on during her days and I'm invested in her and her life story, so to be excluded from a big thing that can make us worry about her safety and mental health feels horrible and unlike her. I'm not saying she ever intended to hurt me, but I'd appreciate it if she at least considered what it looks like to go from 100% to 0% at a time when we needed to hear from her most. I'm not going to let this turn into another yesmen white knight discord because what's the point being anonymous and on 4chan if you're going to behave the same and hold your thoughts back.

>>105386877
Fuck off and get a life outside of Pillow.

>>105386877
This nigga is RETARDED!!!!!!!

Basically all you're saying is that you feel like you feel entitled. You are not, you're not entitled to be constantly coddled. "I was worried", she's a fucking adult, she can handle traveling, she is not a child that needs to be fussed over. Your worry is meaningless, it does nothing for her, you can do nothing for her. If some bad shit happened, you'd be one of several dozen people commenting "Oh man I'm so sorry Pillow that sucks :(" AND THATS IT.

If you want to care, put yourself into a situation wherein you have actual capacity to do shit for her, otherwise shut the fuck up and stop expecting to be coddled.

>>105386877
I am being honest you moron. I don't need to hear from Pillow every hour of every day. I don't care that hasn't been posting while travelling across the country and meeting her friend who she hasn't seen in years. She's not being "unfair", I don't feel "excluded" and I'm not "worried" about her. You're just insane. Go away and never come back.

and so it begins

Stealth cuckposting is still cuckposting
Pillow is happy with piwwos, if this isn't your position you are an anti and no this isn't up for debate
Also the sheer audacity of accusing me of having the expectation of a kissless virgin when I am positive I've had the longest relationship of anybody in this thread is laughable.
You people really are truly obsessed with making pillows vision of love fit yours. It's sad. Her vision of love is so much more beautiful than yours can ever be, and will ever be.
>"Let's learn to love and be loved, together!"
Do not misunderstand the role here. You are the one being saved, not the savior. That is your place here.

>>105387039
Getting any amount of interaction with her at all is a privilege, the kind of expectations and demands to constantly have her giving Piwwos attention like a mommy is the exact shit that leads to Piwwos schitzoing out and hurting her. It's just like CJ dude freaking the fuck out because he built up some expectations that somehow his simpery and constant worship actually entitles him to special treatment.

>>105387082
I'm gonna get so much throat from Pillow while you preach about her ideal version of love

>>105387088
I really don't like that guy lol

>>105386877
this post cannot be real
it was a literal travel heavy early morning wake up and immediately thrust into irl socializing day long affair
she even explained and apologized and hinted at exactly all of that as soon as she could
nigga I am a clingy faggot too but IT WASNT EVEN A FULL 24 HOURS??????????
My GOD

>>105387199
I get extra nasty on 4chan because it's funnier that way, but I do genuinely care about the Piwwos and it disturbs me to see bro vagueposting about Pillow in a manner that is schitzo. Like fuck I'm a goddamn yearnposter but at least I respect her enough to know that no matter how I feel, I'm entitled to no amount of special treatment. He needs to get some other shit to do all day, really bad.

>>105387142
weird how you talk about her like she's any random whore like this as if she isn't inherently better than that but you do homo

>>105387235
Oh I was talking about CJ but yeah this schizo is even worse.

>>105387210
Clearly she should have just stopped in the middle of what she had going on to tweet, because her top mental priority at all times must be how the Piwwos are feeling. She did a whole goodbye stream for a 6 day trip, most vtubers just leave and come back for way longer periods. She's extremely clingy, but it appears that's not enough for some Piwwos.

>>105387264
Ngl, what I said applies to both, though this particular schitzo is definitely worse, but as long as it's kept to the thread it's okay. Pillow deserves to be able to enjoy her travel time without having to worry about Piwwos freaking out.

>>105386877
>>105387071
>I'm not going to let this turn into another yesmen white knight discord
I agree with this you should be free to vent your feelings here and the guys that replied to you also are free to say what they want, this is 4chan after all. But if you're the kind of guy that goes from "I'm just a concerned piwwo, I'm just asking questions!" to "She's a whore guys!" then you are a bad actor and other piwwos are right to tell you to fuck off.

>>105387039
>>105387088
>>105387199
>>105387210
>>105387235
I'm suspicious of that complainer even being a piwwo. What piwwo what jump to assuming pillow would call her mom of all people upon arrival given the relationship there? It almost sounds like a thread reader larping and missing little details like that. There's other minor inconsistent interpretations he tries usi g as justifications if you read into it as well. Just advanced Jakarta bait gang IMO

>>105387292
No, it's not okay. I don't want these threads to be like this for a week. They should keep their schizo thoughts to themselves.

>>105387319
You're right. The piwwos telling me to fuck off and shitting on how I feel even though I admitted to being in the minority about it I have to accept. It would be hypocritical of me to think otherwise. I'm still not going to hold back my honest thoughts about Pillow no matter how much you guys jump to her defense. I won't try and stop any of you saying what you feel either. Just stop making this a hugbox it's so annoying and doesn't help anyone.

>>105387319
4chan is for bloodsports. Constant war is good for the economy.

>>105387393
I don't give a shit about how you feel, I'm gonna call you a retard anyway.

>>105387393
This isn't a "hugbox". We're not against criticising Pillow, but your particular criticism (that she doesn't communicate with us constantly while travelling) is completely deranged. Nobody wants to hear it.

I'm so confused, I always saw myself as one of the more unstable piwwos but like
it was less than a DAY
like I could 100% understand it if it was longer than expected but like it wasnt???? Ffs I am LITERALLY schizophrenic, I am currently off my meds, and I am still confused as to what there is even to freak out about here
I AM AN UNMEDICATED EMOTIONALLY VOLATILE LITERALLY SCHIZOPHRENIC CLINGY IN LOVE WITH HER AND EVEN STILL THAT OVERREACTION WAS TOO MUCH FOR ME
THINK ABOUT THAT PLEASE
also
>discord accusation
I have had 4view vtubers do entire streams entirely on reading out schizoposts I made about vtubers before this board even existed, I am your elder and you WILL fuck off with that faggotry

>>105387565
You should listen to 4 instances of Pillow GF ASMR on repeat until she manifests in the physical world.

>>105387542
>that she doesn't communicate with us constantly while travelling
I never said that. I asked for 1 (one) tweet that takes 2 minutes max. She probably found time to communicate with those close to her she landed safely and met up with her friend and was probably communicating with her friend so they could find each other, it just would've been nice to have been part of that. I would've understood a long gap after that where she's catching up and getting stuff sorted out for her stay.

>>105387397
Only people that ostritch their heads in the sand about all vtubers checking /here/ think this way. Vtubers are mentally ill, all of them, all of them will look here, they will take everything written here in an emotional and personal way, and it will effect their actual offsite mood, and they will be fully aware of how bad of an idea it is to do it, and then they'll do it again, and they'll all publicly deny it in order to let certain more innocent people /here/ believe their oshi isn't /here/, and said innocent people will aggressively oppose the idea of said oshis being /here/ to people who (rightfully) claim they are, often resulting in every look into this site that no vtuber will ever stop taking be a vision of fractured infighting and aggression that compoundingly weakens her mental state over time, as it does for the fans
they say curiosity killed the cat well you now remember just how many vtubers have a cat ear toggle

>>105387644
or maybe she just didn't end up taking out her phone or was panicked or was (any number of reasons) cmon bruh this is such a weird take you have to realize how many potential points can invalidate your reasoning here

>>105387829
Clearly she needs to be babysitting the Piwwos feelings every hour of every day.

>>105387829
This is what I wanted. Just this. Nothing else, but she couldn't even do that.

what if pillow became a hivemind that could create arbitrarily many instances of herself as she wanted but they all shared the same mind and soul

>>105387915
God damn bro is so schitzo he made a fake tweet.

>>105387959
I thought it would be the easiest way to get it through your thick fucking skull

>>105387915
>just this
This might upset some people but have you considered that she needs a bit of a break from the piwwos? Like any regular person in a relationship there are times when you need your space. You might say she is clingy but even clingy married couples need time for themselves. I'd rather she not tweet anymore and give herself and us a break, I think it's healthy.

all of you are schizo

>>105387915
she quite literally even acknowledged and apologized for what itself is functionally a nonissue anyway but you are still choosing to be upset
this is not the minor ass make or break molehill you seem to regard it as. It just isn't. You turned a minor streak of singular memntary minor bad luck into a whole ass thesis. Don't fucking do that it will make you go insane

>>105388026
nah this is quite literally too deep you're just going to fuel the schizo with this
It is is quite simply insane to expect that there are no possible situations that couldve occurred where she gets too caught up to open Twitter long enough to say anything of substance
It really just does not need to go beyond that, he'll that literally lines up with the actual reason she gave
it's just insane to me, I don't fucking immediately text/call everyone I know when I get off a flight like wtf?????

Pillow herself said she was sorry for the lack of updates therefore I think that two things are simultaneously true:
1. It was reasonable for piwwos to have been concerned by it, given that she herself thought it was worth apologizing for
2. Any piwwo that truly loves her should accept her apology and not second guess her

>>105387644
>I asked for 1 (one) tweet that takes 2 minutes max.
She posted five times (not including replies to other people) after she finished traveling and catching up with her friend.
>She probably found time to communicate with those close to her
Yeah, probably. They're close to her; we're not. They're more important.
>it just would've been nice to have been part of that
This is completely insane. I'm curious now. Is there any part of her life that you don't expect to be let in on? Travelling and meeting a close friend (SO SHE CAN MAKE A VLOG FOR US) obviously isn't one of them.

>>105388146
>It was reasonable for piwwos to have been concerned by it
No, it wasn't. Pillow is really sweet for showing concern for us, but she had no need to. Don't give that loser any ground.

>>105387915
You sound really narcissistic and controlling, the worst kind of human

>>105388357
Thank God he'll never, ever have a personal relationship with her. Making a fake post in her voice is insane lol

>>105388283
>Yeah, probably. They're close to her; we're not. They're more important.
Isnt this quite literally what pillowdear said not to say last stream. People need to stop entertaining this delusion that a si gular tweet can define the relationship she has with us. That is why the schizo is insane at his core, beyond even the neediness, it's the irrationality itself that is even worse than that

>>105388392
I know who he is lol. Joined the community around a year ago. Donates a lot and thinks she owes him because of it. Had a melty on twitter before.

>>105388691
I really hope nobody is tracking who says what on here very well, I am a lot more bombastic on here than anywhere else because it's more fun that way.

>>105388283
>No, it wasn't. Pillow is really sweet for showing concern for us, but she had no need to.
I think her waiting till the end of her day to tweet was fine and no big deal but at the end of the day she's cultivated a clingy emotionally attached audience and has built up some level of expectation that she needs to make good on. For example, I don't think her going radio silent for 5 days would be reasonable but I suspect you'd disagree and insist she doesn't owe anything.

>>105388766
I’m only tracking the schizos so I can point them out to Pillow and the community if they start causing trouble for her

>>105388691
This describes like 3 people but none of them use this site afaik

>>105388767
She literally doesn't owe anyone anything. They can get upset, but she's not working, she's traveling and enjoying herself and doesn't need to babysit people's feelings. She never said "Make sure you sit and schitzo out over when I tweet", all she's ever asked is that Piwows care about her, and it's a lot more loving towards her to not build up retarded expectations like that.

Schitzo Piwwos like you don't love her, you're emotionally attached and desperately need to develop more maturity about how you treat people, or you're going to be upset with yourself when you hurt her.

Don't bake. There's no point. Wait until she returns. Let the schizos find something to do that doesn't involve refreshing her twitter every minute with tears in their eyes.

>>105388957
Where am I supposed to post anal fantasies about her?

>>105388969
Pillow would rather there be no /pillow/ whilst she's away if the piwwows will just be upsetting each other and arguing. She'd prefer it if we just got on with our lives and be there for her when she returns.

>>105388907
>doesn't owe anyone anything
No you're just another 'muh parasocial fucks' cunt that shows up in the fandom of every GFE streamer. Anything the vtuber does is justified to people like you while their fans are just expected to eat shit. I know your exact type. You'd be here defending her even if she betrayed her fans and made a lie of every promise she ever made to them.

>>105389051
>>105387071
This is what /pillow/ wants apparently.

Pillow loves piwwos romantically and exclusively and for real and the same is true vice versa and that will never change
This is the miracle that defies a painful ending
She is the miracle that defies misery
I love her
I miss her

>>105388767
>I don't think her going radio silent for 5 days would be reasonable but I suspect you'd disagree and insist she doesn't owe anything
If she hadn't let us know in advance that she wouldn't be posting for a few days and it didn't turn out to have been an emergency or personal issue, I might think it was inconsiderate, depending on the details. Otherwise, it wouldn't bother me. Importantly, I wouldn't assume the worst. My thought would be "this isn't like her; I hope she's okay", not "she hasn't posted for a while, so she doesn't care about us".

I've never had a girlfriend and I have no social life. I'm a prime candidate to be one of the clingy, deranged and paranoid guys who expect way too much of her, but I think I'm better-adjusted than most people in a similar situation.

>>105388957
+1

>>105389079
No, we just have a retard schitzoing out currently

Pillow is my girlfriend. I am you. You are him. That other guy is him, and also both of them are me who is you and he is I who am pillows boyfriend. Or occasionally girlfriend if one of you is fempiwwo right now.

>>105388867
I won’t say his name but he’s slipped up here a few times and gave himself away. Don’t think Pillow has seen the schizo side of him because she’s still friendly even after his meltdown.

>>105389265
your classification of what counts as big donor must be pretty different from mine then

>>105389311
Pillow doesn't really seem to have any true whales. I think theres one Piwwo who's username I can't remember throws out a 50 every other stream, but beyond that most Piwwos are kinda poor.

>>105389369
Piwwos tend to be on the much younger side. A good chunk are still in school or in college. Only a handful have gotten careers started

>>105388032
That's what the government wants you to think! They're trying to get the piwwos to destroy themselves.

I think I miss baker anon :(

>>105390183
She loves us

>>105390240
Never let the schizos convince you otherwise.

Hmm.....