Thread 105362001

Kou Mariya is leaving V4Mirai due to a contract dispute
https://x.com/EmiliyaFell/status/1976712080708583617
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jIHkATpQDWmhhUM9JnzMrvSpnH2ebIPR86pnCxFBZDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttEJJgM8UFA

>>105362001 (OP)
>immersion break in the first sentence
dropped

>>105362001 (OP)
>I wan to live!

>>105362001 (OP)
>sell IP to known and documented black company
>get fucked by said black company
>cry on twitter
I feel for her, but what did you genuinely expect to happen?

nijicock always wins

>>105362001 (OP)
>join corpo as indie, as that specific vtuber
>decide to leave corpo and become indie again
>somehow have lost the rights to absolutely everything
Women continue to amaze me.

>>105362001 (OP)
What is up with ENs dropping kayfabe all of a sudden? It’s like they all collectively decided to stop caring about it and make vtubing about them, the women behind the models.

looks like some IP theft lol

>>105362300
>make vtubing about them, the women behind the models.
cuz it is

>>105362001 (OP)
remember when she went on hiatus because of some super important emergency but then she got busted on holiday attending an apex event in japan? she lies as easily as she breathes

>>105362162
Just how many times does this have to happen before vtubers realize it's not a good idea?

>>105362186
Even for all the shit VShojo did they didn't take anyone's IP

>>105362070
she had to post on her alt because they've literally removed her access to Kou so it's a necessary sentence unfortunately.

>>105362529
How many other times has it happened? I just know Yuri and Phase Connect

>>105362531
Hell Matara, Henya and Kruo got to keep their IPs

>>105362001 (OP)
She's Phasing in

Am I understanding this right, she joined as an established vtuber, sold her IP to the corpo, tries to leave for the indie grift, but now she can't take her model with her because she let them have the IP?
Funny.

>>105362589
doesn't this bitch have ANOTHER alt, I remember she made it to participate in some eSports tournament

>>105362001 (OP)
Is she the one with a boyfriend?

sorry

>>105362529
I'm amazed anyone ever does it unless you're an incredibly dead-end indie. I don't know if that was the case here but not having some method of retaining your IP rights is retarded.

Do not sell your IP unless you have a clear way out. Or do not sell it ever if you're attached to it. It's that easy.

>>105362531
Not out of benevolent, it was their business strategy to headhunt big names and give them a too good to be true deal to get them to join. If they required the IPs to be turned over they'd have never had Zen/Ironmouse/Nyanners/Silver to start with. It was an ok business strategy backed by a horrible financial strategy.

>>105362001 (OP)
>sells IP to join corp
>"actually I want to leave can I have my IP back"
Uh
Corpo bad yeah they should give everyone their IPs for free who cares if they made a 3D model for her they should let her take it too what even is money anyway corpos BAD INDIE REVOLUTION NOW

>>105362706
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

I really liked her menhera alter ego, if she reincarnated she should play into that more

>>105362670
https://x.com/prisma_the_neet
yeah it has a model that looks like aqua and she already streamed on it but it redirects to this new IP

>>105362589
>Kou

>>105362706
Did Lumi do this?

>>105362606
>Hell Matara, Henya and Kruo got to keep their IPs
Thay didn't "got to keep" shit, the IP was theirs to begin with

>>105362692
all the girls in v4m are married or in a relationship you fucking unicorn

>>105362531
The difference being that Vshojo stopped existing over night, V4Mirai (and all of Brave) is still alive.
It's kind of funny how everyone misses this simple defining point whenever IP disputes come up.

The dispute is always greedy entitled women with secret boyfriends want more money for cucking their fans.

She even got that model from Pomu's mama...

>>105362606
>just know Yuri and Phase Connect
Uh bro you might want to keep up with stuff.
https://x.com/AmarisYuri/

>>105362847
no...my poor honse...is it true?

>>105362692
I don't know about boyfriend or not, but it's the one simping for nijiguy called Barrenworth

>>105362800
Retarded women should be allowed to have their cake and eat it too, I guess.

>>105362867
The difference is Vshojo didn't own the IPs, period. if they did they'd still be fighting to cling onto them like they are with all the merch in their warehouse that people already paid for.

>>105362867
That depends on what you call "alive". Pretty much the V4M girls have been doing every side hustle imaginable to stay afloat, and when youtube came banging on their doors for their content, their corpos sat on their hands and did nothing. Brave is even more laughable as a brand since I have not seen a single vtuber with their tag above like 200 viewers.

>>105362931
All the ones still there, not former.

>>105362838
Yeah, Phase is debuting a vampire girl soon so they had to take out the competition.

dawg this shit is ASS
anyone got a list of V4 talent's alt/PL/roomies so I can keep up with them when this shitship sinks?

Yeah, excepting possibly Niji and Holo, this industry in the corpo world won't last lol

>>105362912
itiso sensei lost another daughter

>>105362950
even more grim

>>105362867
vshojo is actually legally still 100% alive lol much to the talent's dismay

>>105362001 (OP)
How crazy must the deal have been for her to even sign away her own Vtuber self.

>>105362976
A number of their girls have said that they're staying in the corp, and it still exists and gets streams and whatnot so yeah it's very much alive. All the demonetization issues have been dealt with too, a long time ago actually.

>>105363105
>much to the talent's dismay
How is it effecting them?

Brave Group is a black company

What about Alias?

>>105363105
Where the fuck is gunrun?

>>105363218
And so is Nijisanji and Vshojo, notice a pattern

>>105362300
Most JPs don't care about kayfabe either.

>>105363227
Alias is already back streaming on H**won
No statement yet, but very likely to be gone as well.

>>105363331
good riddance lol

>>105362001 (OP)
How quickly till her next Apex male collab?

>>105362652
>this sex model will be lost forever
Fuck black corpos and their soulsucking lawyers

>>105363446
this is more on her on willingly giving Mariya away.

>>105363215
from the sounds of it vshojo is drawing things out and trying to do legal-fu to extract some more money from the talents and/or their business partners. whatever it is they're making many of the former talents sad and mad. in addition to that kson can't get a tax refund until they officially go bankrupt.

>>105363483
>it's not the scammer's fault, goy

>>105363526
>refusing to give back the IP for free is scamming

>>105362738
Still being a 2view indie after 3 years is pretty dead-end imo

>>105363483
Women are mentally children you can’t blame her

Not even the worse thing Brave did this year. It is probably the worst company to sell your IP to; it doesn't care about PR since it's reputation is already in the gutter since 2019 and it's a collection of smaller agencies

>>105362001 (OP)
BUY AN AD

classic Brave. the person behind suzuna nagihara left Riot Music at least 6 months ago, and Brave hasn't announced her departure to this day.

>>10536352
she could've just reincarnated with a V4Mirai original character, kouhai,
now she has to rebuild with Prisma from scratch.

>>105363375
Why? She seemed sweet and sexy.

>>105362829
it's shorter than Mariya to type sorry I'm lazy

lmao she actually threw away her mariya persona because they wouldn't let her collab with that niji dude anymore
that's hilarious
hoes gonna hoe

Not a fan of this type of 4th wall breaking

>>105363697
she's not even using prisma, this twitter account and website is for a whole new character

Can we not bring it here, please? Yes, she's Mint's friend but it is off-topic.

>>105363215
Keeping the NDAs running for one, and keeping the merch the fans already paid for.

>>105362001 (OP)
this sucks v4m was a good group of girls

>>105363789
Mariya is a VTuber. It's on topic.

>>105363789
nigga what?

>>105363789
>>105363823
>catalog thread
is /vt/ being propped up by LLMs?

>>105363823
>>105363840
I'm dumb, tabs. Carry on.

>>105363770
even worse. at least Prisma was a bit built. what the hell is she planning?

>>105362800
She bought the 3D model she was about to debut herself.

>>105363215
put it this way: all of their merch that was already paid for (by fans) and manufactured is in a warehouse. warehouse won't release it without being paid a fee. a talent offered to pay that fee so they can get access to it but vshojo said no. some of the merch in that warehouse was never vshojo's, amalee was storing her own there from before she joined. it was her property so they've just got stolen property too
they're trying desperately to draw this out as long as possible to try and squeeze dimes out of the talent, it's actually fucking disgraceful. partly it's money but it also comes across as spite. also they own almost all of mouse's music in some way that makes it difficult for her to do anything with it

>>105363704
I thought so too but then I found out how she is when she's not "playing" Alias

>>105363483
Thanks for the input mr blackrock executive

>>105363745
Wait really?

>>105363636
Based mintbeggar

I see Alias replied from her alt

>>105363899
no, that is a schizo

>>105363770
Her Prisma twitter is now directing people towards this new character. It's kinda dumb, should just rebrand Prisma

>>105363899
No.

>>105363552
keep licking the boot, soon your reward will trickle down.

>>105363946
>stop being reasonable CORPOS BAD

>>105363860
Yes, since the holo exodus.
They want to keep the traffic up for the ad money.

So V4M is dying, half of globie left and I'm not sure what happened to idol after the name change

>>105363092
This one will be easier. He was losing his shit over Pomu. I can't blame him. His girls are pretty damn good as well even if they have samey faces.

>>105362531
I guess the question here is if VShojo did own the Ironmouse IP, would they have valued it at $500k?

>>105362001 (OP)
What an ungrateful whore after Brave gave her the opportunity of a lifetime. She deserves nothing but failure.

I blame Sanrio.
Things were great in the first 6 months or so of Petalight.

>>105364018
her IP is worth a fuck of a lot more than 500k

>>105363092
ichiso is gonna kill himself

>>105363331
Wait really, she's that yab vtuber that talked a lot about dicks? I'm disappointed somehow

>>105364044
Yeah, mine

This sounds like another task for the INDIE AVENGERS!

>>105364018
They would valued it $10k per model, so overall more than $500k

>>105363974
>corpos with full legal teams forcing you to give up the brand you developed over 3 years to sign is fair
thank you Mr Lawyerstein very cool

So just months after she's able to do her big idol live event with Mint and Ironmouse and KAF she bails because she probably won't be able to get the funding to do that again?

>>105364044
She sucked a lot of different dicks.

>>105364126
No, nice headcnaon tho real spicy.

>>105364111
Yeah, that is scummy, agreed. Brave Group is now on the same level as Phase Connect in that regard

>>105364044
https://youtu.be/2lQzTgjG_TQ?t=1931

>>105364111
Should read the contract

>>105364111
>actually she was forced to sell her IP by the yakuza
The plot thickens. Source?

>>105364168
She has precisely negative chance of ever doing that ever had it not been for Brave funding her useless, growthless ass.

>>105364200
My image of Alias was seriously wrong apparently, I thought she was some kind of maximum GFE wifetuber not a total slut

>>105364211
see >>105362001 (OP)

>>105364200
>421 views
Bitches be confused why they are failures. Men are easy. You just have to be nice. This bar is too high for most.

Damn, sad stuff.
Only got introduced to her at vexpo a month ago, she waved her fat tits in 3D while singing spice girls. Wanted to see more

>>105364126
iirc that was IRIAM, not Brave

>>105364256
that's the funny part. She was a maximum gfe vtuber with a marriage merch etc but turns out she's the complete opposite irl. The Alias persona is unironically a grift.

>>105364018
If you want to assess the value of an IP, you can calculate the revenue it could generate over the span of 5 years. I'm not sure 500k cuts it.

>>105364256
Management probably told her to not act like a slut to be fair. Around the time Lunalia debuted Petalight was growing pretty quickly via heavy GFE/ASMR streams, and obviously Haewon/Alias took to that formula well.

>>105364111
You're in a thread full of jobless losers who hate and mock people who work. Yet at the same time are the first ones lick the corporate boot. Should realize that before posting.

>>105362001 (OP)
And of course there's a tiltify begging for money. It's not like she didn't know this would be the result when she joined a corporation. I'm getting tired of these women being so dependent on their fanbases to pull them out of the holes they dug themselves into. It's pathetic.

So she and Alias are for sure gone, who else from V4Mirai are about to bounce?

>>105364397
They were the only two to have ongoing contract negociations and having trouble re-signing with the agency. Everyone else already did the deed before we had announcements they were on hiatus and etc.

>>105362606
>>105362845
>>105362917
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>>105364442
I do.

>>105364256
A post in the v4m thread saying to search for the world "dick" on her alt's x made never want to even get a membership for any chuuba ever again

>>105364256
>noooo only men can like sex
stick to hololive bud

>>105364256
Anon, she's Korean. Sucking dicks is a national sport.
Always do background checks even when people say you're a schizo for doing so, you'll save yourself from many headaches.

>>105364486
I always heard here anons say to never trust the Koreans and I thought it's just a joke but I guess not.

>>105364486
trust in pillow

>>105364577
I always liked Miori

>>105364557
Why would you want to support a vtuber who talks about dick they sucked? hololive or not

>>105364286
Where? She doesn't say anything about being forced to sell her IP there, only that she was approached by them and decided to go with it. As a result, they gave her one of the best 3D models in vtubing, paid for her training and a lot other investments.
So now because they didn't want to give the IP back for free they're a black corp. I see.

>>105364397
I assume Yumi will bail, not that she's doing much anyway

>>105364486
>word*

>>105364577
Stereotypes aren't born out of nothing

>>105364613
I still do like Miori but it still makes me think. Maybe her "oppressive" parents aren't that bad if their actions made Miori not a whore.

>>105364627
Yumi literally came back from a hiatus though after re-signing. But the economy is getting shittier so I expect half of them, especially Mono and Yae, to leave after another year if the company doesn't outright collapse. Yae leaving will accelerate if Terra leaves before her.

Isn't Brave in the fucking red

>>105364579
What has Pillowdear got to do with this? Is she secretly an Alias-tier grifter too? Please don’t ruin her for me lol

>>105364394
I have two jobs tho.

>>105364645
to be fair I can't for the love of me imagine Ina being like that.

>>105364712
she's a close irl friend with Alias

>>105364722
Get out.

>>105364712
I'm saying she can be trusted unlike Alias so you're safe to member her

>>105362001 (OP)
Who?

>>105364486
Why, because you finally realized that vtubers are not people, but characters played by people?
It's an act. The whole point is that it's an act. And yet so many people are like "I can't believe that's not really her!", yall as dumb as the people thinking actors playing villains are bad people irl.

>>105364200
Have you ugly bastard maxxed?

>>105364829
Vtuber's are closer to professional wrestlers than actors desu

Ryomas tweet is going to 100% get him fired from Niji kek Kiara is going to be alone yet again

>>105364837
I used to be like that until a year ago, now I'm a skeleton.

>>105364676
>Maybe her "oppressive" parents aren't that bad if their actions made Miori not a whore.
>Miori
>not a whore
Dude

>>105364829
there is a difference between being a normal person and being a total whore. Unless you're saying that her behaviour is a behaviour of a normal woman nowadays which would mean that an average woman is a whore.

>>105364829
God you're so dumb. I swear only the most retarded mongrels make these "they're like movie actors" arguments. You don't understand a thing.

>>105364745
>>105364795
How can she be friends with someone like that irl? Where’s the empathy for the cucked fans?

>>105364784
I also made 400 dollars swing trading airlines, amd and gold yesterday. And I received 10 dollars in silver bullion as a gift.

>>105364935
hey, so far I've not seen any info that would make Miori a whore iun my eyes. So if you know something then share with the class.

>>105364577
Korean women go crazy give you the best blowjob of your life then log into her secret twitter and talk about how powerful it make her feel that she could just bite your dick off

Also lots of posts about how korean men are inferior and white cock is superior but then they don't want to date foreigners because they're into bieber twinks.

>>105363927
>>105363935
https://x.com/RyomaBarrenwort/status/1976736686215512527
https://x.com/RyomaBarrenwort/status/1976736686215512527
https://x.com/RyomaBarrenwort/status/1976736686215512527

Oh really?

>>105364256
She's peak NTR chubba, she talks about how much she hates NTR and pretends to be pure on her corpo, but she's a slut

>>105362001 (OP)
https://x.com/RyomaBarrenwort/status/1976736686215512527
A Niji replied

>>105364956
All I'm saying is that pre Alias info I would say that there's 0% chance of pillow being like Alias and post Alias info that's no longer a 0%. Still unlikely but not 0%.

>>105365060
>>105365035
yikes, she's this close to a niji guy? instant drop

>>105364181
faggot yuri sold her IP like a tard
kill yourself vfag

>>105365035
>>105365060
Isn't this tweet likely to get him into trouble?

>>105364956
>women
>empathy

>>105365111
It’ll probably get him fired yeah, since Niji still has close relations with Brave

>>105365165
From what I can tell most nijis actively want to get fired to escape that hell so seems likely

>>105364181
>>105365109
And she GOT IT BACK AND IS TWEETING AS YURI AGAIN

>>105364615
because i like getting my dick sucked

I love Alias

>>105362976
>yt came knocking
Besides the dr and the cute black girl i havent wacthed any of them. What happened to them?

>>105365265
they were masturbating during ASMR streams

>>105365035
>>105365060
Mariya...

>>105365035
nowhere in this tweet is there evidence for the claim that you made.

>>105365292
Get the fuck out, no way. The dr and the black girl too?

>>105365035
>>105365060
kek
no refunds on those wedding rings sorry boys

>>105363789
>>105363865
You were just ahead of the curve
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1976741777546920380

>>105365292
they're just like me fr...

>>105365331
no just the ASMR sluts mono and mariya

>>105365331
just mono and maybe mariya

>>105365331
>Get the fuck out, no way
>anon discovers the hidden side of the chuuba world
Gotta love all these doujin plots

>>105365320
>collabs weekly with this dude for months
>suddenly stops
>starts going on breaks on her mariya account while still playing with him on her other account

yeah i'm sure man
definitely had nothing to do with it

>>105365111
Probably, but do you think he cares at this point? He already got in trouble for being angry that a serial sexual harasser was allowed to quietly retire without officially being punished for sekuhara.
I don't know exactly what V4M and Niji EN management will do about Kou and Ryoma respectively; but I can guarantee, as easily as I can guarantee a sunrise, that both companies will do something mind-bogglingly stupid to both talents.

>>105365446
shit was so cash back in the day, japanese AV chuubas showed body while masturbating on their youtube streams

>>105365474
when was their last collab

>>105365060
Uh...is Anycolor cool with this?

>>105362001 (OP)
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
It appears the male collabing, manipulative whore finally decided to leave her company!

>>105365503
yea I remember that lol. A girl using pink vibrating egg toy masturbating and moaning live..

>>105365608
Nemu was a madlad

Brave Group? More like Boyfriend Group

>>105365638
Maybe they should merge with Phase then

You put too much faith in women. Just pick a vtuber that's entertaining.

>>105365608
>>105365503
Sauce?

>>105365060
big yikes from me, dog. thanks for the asmr i guess.

>>105362001 (OP)
Funny how now everything goes around about Alias being an over the top whore talking about how many cocks she sucked.

>>105365692
>Just pick a vtuber that's entertaining.
Mission impossible

>>105365735
it's just too jarring compared to Alias persona

>>105365474
>>105365536
i checked for myself i don't see any collabs on either of their channels in the past several months. they don't appear to be big collab partners as you have claimed.

>>105363331
>No statement yet, but very likely to be gone as well.
KWAB

>>105365735
I just entered this thread and actually like slutty girls, should I have bought Aliascoin?

>>105365771
Did she turn down Phase for this? lol lmao

>>105365771
pixellink...

>>105364442
buy an ad, phasecuck

>>105365692
I think it's easier to find a girl to marry, as a hikki

>>105365474
i did your homework for you and they had 4 collabs, all a year+ ago. i believe you have misrepresented how close they were as well as her graduation timeline. i don't think your rrat holds any weight. it seems more likely that she graduated over a recent contract dispute as she claims.

>>105365788
nah but you can get in on Haewon coin

>>105365788
Invest in whoreon.

>>105365938
They obviously are close given Ryoma is risking his job here to promote her and telling his audience that BRAVE is BLACK

>>105365938
I assumed they had more collabs on Twitch

>>105365383
>>105365443
Oh, i dont care then. Have the black girl and the dr ever lez out? Just an offcollab, they are in the same hotel and start giggling and drinking, brush up turns into caresses, caresses turn into kisses, kisses into passionate love making as they broadcast their sapphic passion to chat. Anything like that ever happened?

>>105365035
I'm stupid, just gave a few bucks to her new model fund. I'm charging this shit back asap.
Thank god schizo anons exist.

>>105365827
it wasn't Pixelink, it was V&U

>>105365788
Just go to her pl twitter Haewon and search for dick or dicks and see the hundreds of tweets
she also used to advertise spicy asmr on her pls patreon though i havent seen any proof that she actually made some (the tier was expensive as fuck too)

>>105362001 (OP)
Never trust pomufaces

>>105365967
but not that close as they don't collab often. you're also misrepresenting how much support she is getting. i've seen loads of random vtubers writing essays on twitter about how much they like mari.

>>105365060
If anything can be said of this is that dude is done playing house lel

>>105365938
Anon, you'd need to look at Twitch streams. Also twitch streams on Prisma_the_neet's channel or whatever it is.

>>105365938
is this the guy she streamed on her alt with and didn't tell any kouhais about it anywhere and one of his fans had to come into the thread to tell them

>>105365993
>schizo anons
she is a well known male collaber

>>105365938
nta but they had more just not all had a pov
they had some sort of event for Apex together and kept playing afterwards
idk if they actually got told to stop though, i do remember at the time she had a "The Talk" with her audeince about it because some were annoyed though

>>105366010
sc literally has a bj one

>>105365993
Anon why? Why would even give money

>>105366012
The hint was in the ears though.

>>105365973
if Serina was gonna lez out with someone it wouldn't be the doctor.

Give me more evil slutty woman

>>105366093
hate sex with alias...

>>105365993
SHE ALREADY HAS A MODEL.
SHE CAN USE THE PRISMA MODEL.
Don't pay for another fucking model when she has one she can use.

>>105366103
Visit twitch and enjoy the endless stream of that sort of women

Voltail is safe, right? I like everyone in that gen

>>105365103
She would literally stream has her rm just so she could play with him cause V4M banned male collabs and apex.

>>105366103
recent evil zenya stream

>>105366103
All women are evil.

>>105366145
Poma is the slut experience, she once wanted to make a dick pic calendar on her PL

>>105362162
is V4mirai really that black of a company? I had no idea

>>105365060
>known her since at least 2023
>bro only debuted last year in 2024
Nah, fuck that, kouhais got cucked hard!

>>105366145
>Voltail is safe, right?
lel

>>105366118
Yup, exactly, those two got some real sexual tension

>>105366192
They're all black to some degree

>>105366093
gay

>>105366192
Their owners is the original black corpo in vtubing and they fired a gen 1 v4mirai talent and lied that she quit on her own and went to greener pastures also *points at Globie*

>>105365771
Wait so the fortune teller fucked up the first time so she gave them another go? Or what happened with the first corpo she joined?

>>105366052
https://twitchtracker.com/prisma_the_neet/streams
barely any streams here, looks like she did tournament prep for a month and then stopped.
https://twitchtracker.com/mariya/streams
here her last apex stream that isn't explicitly with her v4m genmates was in july. additionally there really aren't that many apex streams in general. you are greatly exaggerating how often she collabed with that guy.

>>105366062
>>105366084
>I'm stupid
>>105366125
She will probably get it funded anyway but I won't.

How fucking retard you have to be to let go of an IP you already owned when you joined? I can't think of any deal good enough for that, and it doesn't matter because it's a vtuber corpo so I know the deal wasn't good to begin with

>>105366208
we like that

>>105366181
can you feed me anon, i want to post her my dick

>>105362001 (OP)
>Literally first sentence is breaking kayfabe
This is why EN vtubing will always be shit compared to JP

>>105366145
They are quite grifty IMO. Nothing as bad as alias tho. And I think Rara is genuine enough

>>105366273
susie...

>>105365771
>almost got into kek connect
hmm

>>105366010
>Just go to her pl twitter Haewon and search for dick or dicks
I shouldn't have done that. Holy fuck.

>>105366145
Poma is one of the biggest actual whores in vtubing. The rest are grifters or boring.

>>105366273
How many viewers did she have in 2023? There's a very high possibility that the deal sounded too good to let it pass back then

>>105366278
hunikin

>>105366192
Brave group was responsible for the infamous gamebu incident where the talents wanted better pay so they all got fired and replaced the people behind the models.

>>105366192
They Yugo'd a talent last year, and nobody knew about it until they sacked a manager and the ex-talent spoke up
And there's also the steaming hot mess known as Globie. It's not just V4Mirai, but all of Brave that's black as pitch

>>105366348
right?
Just remember that the sold wedding merch.

>>105366348
Haewon is a massive slut and loves male vtubers. She has pretty much said that "Alias" is just a character she plays.

>>105366391
it is so funny that retards fall for it every time, anyone morally deficient enough to sell marriage merch is a fucking psycho that will cuck you or pump you for all you are worth

>>105366353
>Poma is one of the biggest actual whores in vtubing.
What did she do?

>>105366362
absolute 2view, has even talked about how she was going to give up vtubing before receiving the v4mirai offer

>>105366415
>She has pretty much said that "Alias" is just a character she plays.
i.e. exactly what vtubing should be

>>105366345
Nah, animal costumes that debuted around the same time as she did in V4MIrai would be V&U.

>>105366078
link?

>>105366492
yea that's good and all but I still don't want to watch/support someone who's such a whore irl. No idea why they even post stuff like that online.
Just whore logic I guess.

>>105366492
That's not an excuse to prey on lonely men.

>>105366567
that thread has her irl photos so it would get me a vacation. Just go to simpcity and find her thread yourself.

>>105366535
>V&U
I'm surprised this 2view factory black corpo is somehow still alive

>>105366454
Well, then that's the answer as to why she accepted to sell the IP. Should she have included a clause in the contract allowing her to buy it back eventually? Sure, but I doubt she had that leverage at the time, and hindsight is 20/20.
Also accepting the contract paid off, if we want to be honest

>>105366273
>>105366362
Get real, only reason anyone talks about this girl is because she got a cute model from Pomu's mama, pic related is her original model before selling her IP.

>>105366676
>posts a cute model
what did he mean by this

>>105366595
I keep seeing this point brought up but "lonely" men are grown adults. Like take some personal responsibility at that point if you're "vulnerable" to someone online.

>>105366676
Cute.
Also, is the girl in SVP the last Pomu standing in the EN sphere?

>>105362070
retard

>>105366415
You could say that 'Alias Anono' is her Anonymous Alias

>>105366676
the model is okay, the real reason she got some attention /here/ was because she and her genmates were doing some really erotic gfe in the beginning.

>>105366994
correct, it was the ASMR that really got Mari, Mono, and to a lesser extent, Yae out of 2view hell that they were in (and the prior gen 1 V4Mirai VTubers were also in)

>>105366621
never been there but I’ll try thanks

>>105365111
>>105364886
>>105365165
>>105365233
Nothing ever happens.

Just realized that she never even released the MV for her original song Shine On. Kouhai had been waiting for that MV for like over a year

>>105367063
The ASMR war arc.

>>105367063
I miss their ASMR...

>>105366362
With v4mirai? This is something that would only be worth to join Hololive and maybe Nijisanji, a huge maybe

>>105365788
It seems like she wants to move away from that and was pretty good at deleting her old stuff... Honestly not worth it.

>>105367233
without V4Mirai there is zero chance that she appears in live concerts alongside Mint and Ironmouse

>>105362001 (OP)
>Knowingly sign contract that gives away your IP to the company
>Leave company
>Lose IP
>Cry
WHY are the indies SO fucking stupid? This is why everyone shits on them all the damn time.

>>105367233
I disagree. If >>105366454 is right and she was hard stuck at 2views with no positive outlook and ready to throw the towel, an offer from a branch of an established jp corpo, even if it wasn't one of the big two, is good (especially in 2023). And it's not that she didn't gain anything from the deal, quite the contrary

>>105363005
You don’t want to do that. It will destroy you.
Half of terra’s fanbase turned anti overnight when they heard her alt speak like a regular woman and not an uwu loli. Just go to haewon’s channel and check out everyone who collabed with her on her birthday last week. They are all v4m alts except the males.

>>105362300
Blame Kson, Doki and twitchfags in general. None of them are real vtubers.

>>105367296
>she appears in live concerts alongside Mint and Ironmouse
She did that?

>>105367298
0 emotion intelligence retardGOD

>>105364334
Marriage rings means she is 100% a whore. Its a trend in this industry. Every person who did marriage rings were proven whores. Rushia, Hexa, now Alias. Wedding ring merch is a sign that means her career is going to end soon and she’s unconsciously cashing out. How do you top wedding rings in the next merch drop? You can’t. That means its the end

>>105363303
Unironically this. I follow a JP vtuber who flesh posts constantly and has a flesh cam set up to record her lewd stuff that she does behind the avatar. She's been that way since like 2023

>>105367389
She produced a concert with both of them (and herself) in, also KAF

>>105365853
She’s not phased anymore you fucking moron. The whole point is thst she bought her IP. She saved up for 3 years to buy back her ip and mariya could do that too instead of google dockeying

>>105362845
Not really, the company paid for the models and the rights to them originally
If they had any money they likely would have tried to sue to stop them from using the models post corp implosion

>>105365938
He’s in her replies and she responds to him on 2 different alts stop coping and accept reality. Second stringer wannabe niji woman has to settle for second rate nijimale who’s not rven part of luxium

>>105367533
Dunno maybe I'm too naive. I didn't believe that being Korean is a red flag, I didn't believe that wedding merch is a red flag.
Still there must be some vtubers who are Koreans/released wedding merch but are not grifting/whores. It is a big world after all.
or maybe I'm just coping

>>105362001 (OP)
I will dearly miss cumming buckets to her model on a regular basis. Best of her luck in her future endeavors, I always wish for all femwisps to succeed.

>>105367456
>emotion intelligence
"Emotional" intelligence is a cope women use when they're being a dumbass, it doesn't excuse your inability to read because your own stupid decisions made you sad.
You don't have to sign your posts btw.

>>105366385
not just globie, Brave also somehow managed to mismanage idol EVEN WORSE THAN IDOL ITSELF DID, which was formed as a pet company for Aviel to leech off investor money and try to make his (at the time) girlfriend more famous

>>105367594
>She saved up for 3 years to buy back her ip
nta but why did she do that? Kiba is hot too.

>>105367721
cope. human brains are designed to understand the feelings of their fellow man in order to better work together as a group to maximize their survival. you are defective and will never have a family.

>>105367688
Me personally I never said anything about Koreans. I do know koreans in general are more social and extroverted than typical chinese or japanese as far as north east asians go. You can see it in their media. But like unless the korean in question is ultra religious, which is very common in korea, she has probably lived the typical extrovert life. I wouldn’t put korean as a giant red flag, maybe a small one, but marriage ring brings the alarms all the way from defcon 5 to defcon 1

Her and Alias are literal whores btw.

>>105367774
I really don’t know. And she dropped the loli voice too. That shit has to be taxing on the throat. Maybe she just wants to have fun with it.

>>105367799
Sure, and I understand that this woman is sad because of a retarded decision she made.
My fully emotionally intelligent opinion about it is "tough luck lmao"

>>105367800(me)
Oh yeah and of course there is the way koreans like to take things to thr extreme like how korean feminists have made the pinching emoji into something that can start riots

>>105367799
I can understand that just fine. I also understand she's retarded. If this was a survival situation I would deem this woman a liability and unstable and you would be dead for being overly emotional like a girl.

>>105367740
As long as Roca is happy, I'm good with idol/chromashift

>>105367688
I mean, Chocosen is still around despite releasing wedding merch 4 years ago.

>>105367956
>If this was a survival situation
Stop larping jfc lmao

>>105362692
She's the one that ditched the concert and paid meet and greet at a convention to fly out to Japan to hang out with the vtuber Valorant group and playing with males on her alt account while also doing GFE and selling wedding ring merch on her corpo account

>>105367456
>emotion intelligence
Go back, commie.

>>105364982
She also used that account to fleshpost and talk about her sex toys to her inner circle

>>105362692
That could be used to describe like every vtuber, bro.

>>105367740
Brave mismanaging Idol is shit that's more ass than a donkey farm
The wave realignment alone was beyond ridiculous. Last time anyone, anywhere, had a realignment that stupid was when the NFC put Arizona in the East and Tampa Bay in the West

>>105368055
that tweet is ancient

>>105368055
yea this is nothing new. I wouldn't call her a whore over that.

>>105368080
January

>>105367994
>in order to better work together as a group to maximize their survival
Dumbass

Miori also got drugged by a guy she went out to drink with the day she met him, and was willing to tell that story on stream.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y1fCo53KdObqyVhCtAo2LCmxO97NzwR7/view 4:38:00
>I shouldn't go out late to drink with people I just met, I know, but I was sad, I was a very sad girl

>>105368055
Which stream is she referring to?

>>105368174
It was a drunk VRChat stream

>>105366624
I mean they just lost their last "large" chubba with Kokone leaving. Kinda funny that Liora's actually gotten bigger since leaving.

>>105368276
that's the case for 90% small corpo vtubers, graduation is unironically a buff. those "please find me" tweets on other accounts always explode well beyond what the vtubers corpo reach as

>>105368158
I mean that does not even make her look bad. I really wonder what kind of "men" even do stuff like that.
Dunno, exchange program, you try to meet some new people and you get drugged lol. Sometimes beiing a woman sucks I guess.

>>105367688
>maybe I'm just coping
You probably are. Korean doesn't instantly mean slut, but the chances are so high it isnt worth of it. Asians in general are pretty good at dissociating and becoming what you want to see(which often doesn't match reality at all and might even be the polar opposite of what they show) so being careful is just a necessity. The rest can't even be bothered to pretend so you can tell instantly.

>>105368397
That event happened right after she closed maros and stopped using the nsfw account, and she relied exclusively on those and her fans for intimacy.

consequences of her own actions any empathetic stance is simply a cry from the past ive seen this ending way too many times

>>105368158
>I was sad, I was a very sad girl
lmao

>>105368397
>I mean that does not even make her look bad
Are you serious, mio

>>105362001 (OP)
"brother" ok whore keep lying

>>105368695
Yea, I'm serious. People shouldn't commit crimes. What she did was maybe stupid and naive but again you normally assume that people won't just commit a crime like that or at least I assume that. Either she god unlucky or I give people too much credit.

>>105363896
she did it willingly, genius.
she gave up the character she built for years and accepted the conditions brave put on her. this is all on her. no one put a gun on her head to pretty much sell mariya.

another Mint flunkie joining the ex corpo ranks

>>105362001 (OP)
That's really fucked.
So Brave pulled a fishman and stole an IP, huh?

meanwhile Phase gave back Yuri to the original pilot after 2 years to make it right

>>105365771
>stay away from animals in suits
lol
lmao

I'd say it was probably worth it to sell Mariya. v4m got her onto stages she would have never been on without them.
Now it is up to Minto to carry her to those stages with all the other underlings trying to suck on her
Look forward to Mint concerts where she does 1 number by herself and 10 duets/groups with all the different girls like Phoebe, Mariya etc who are on the Mint scholarship

>>105369718
highest talent retention rate in all of vtubing for companies that started in 2021 or earlier

>>105369847
poor Mint, having to carry all indies on her back

>>105369629
>every mint friend is now out of their corpo
kiara and lia when

>>105369847
>Look forward to Mint concerts where she does 1 number by herself and 10 duets/groups with all the different girls like Phoebe, Mariya etc who are on the Mint scholarship
kino, I'd watch the fuck out of that

>>105370036
but that is already every mint concert...

>>105369952
kiara is european she wont fall as easy as american or canadian bitches

>>105362001 (OP)
Brave EN is not going to recover from this. Kou was one of their hardest workers.

>>105369952
lia has one of the best spots in her corpo
literally on like her 4th trip to japan this year to do company shit all on the company dime. she has always hated streaming and just wants to record mocap and phase is cool turning her into a mocap slave
if she ever left she would just retire she is not indie material at all she is not a hustler

>>105370251
It's bad optics because Mariya is the literally only vtuber under the Brave EN umbrella the casual vtuber might have heard of before because of Mint

>>105370661
Yeah, I know of them mostly because Mariya is a femwisp and Mint raided her when she was playing MGS

I thought Mariya was a perfect fit for v4m. She wanted to be a 3d idol and they made it come true how many of those concerts did they include her in?

>>105371179
She started producing concerts herself because she knew they couldn't help her

>>105365060
man getting fucked by brave and a nijimale this bitch had the game rigged from the start

>>105371281
Iriam produced the concert.

>>105372310
Monkeys don't know the difference of a producer and a sponsor...

>>105372294
She enjoys the latter, not the former though

>>105365771
>passed on phase
>had her career phase out
who could have predicted this

>>105365060
Dude just came outta nowhere, claimed his bitch and let everybody know shes taken. Kouhais in shambles.

>>105365771
>Consulting fortune tellers for major life decisions
Why are women like this