Thread 105392301

Love Edition

>Previous thread
>>105312875

>YouTube
https://youtube.com/@pillowdear
>Twitter/X
https://x.com/pillowdearasmr
>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/pillowdearasmr

>Fan website & resources
https://piwwow.love/
>Fan wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/PillowDear

>Latest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns08Y6GYWEc
>Latest event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6LGy2A4S8

>Latest stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTYd_k0fafw
>Upcoming streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBfQlXu9WdA

Thread rules:

>>105392301 (OP)
why

>>105392368
you will never be a janny

>>105392301 (OP)
Oh good, I was worried it was actually going to be gone for a while. Great image to start the thread.

>>105392575
you will never get a nice thread whilst she's away

>>105392301 (OP)
>Make Piwwos so untrusting of their kamioshi that they post in her chat she doesn't love them
Catalogniggers, I kneel

When I see Piller,
I think Fill'er!

>>105387565
legendary

Who are /we/ watching today? Kanna is starting in a minute. Toffee hag karaoke later.

>>105395870
I'm watching Pillow vods and a couple of halloweenesqe movies

>>105395870
>>105396134
Piwwo…just watch Pillow VODs. Don’t do this to her.

>>105396632
Kanna isn't GFE. She's just talking about games atm. Listening in the background. I'm not chatting with her.

>>105396679
She may not be GFE but she’s a full bodycam whore these days

>>105396134
why does she laugh like that?

>>105396774
So? She can do what she wants why the fuck would I care.

>>105395870
There's only a few others I follow and none of them are live.

I never used to be into it and I still prefer a natural look, but Pillow's made me appreciate painted nails. Something about her doing it makes me happy. I think I just like the thought of her doing cute girly stuff that makes her feel pretty.

>>105395870
Toffee is a hag? I thought she was young, around Pillow’s age?

Watching last year's pumpkin carving stream and I will say I prefer how she used to talk then
Was a bit more natural and relaxed

>>105400104
Yeah I think she puts on a cutesy and high-energy voice to be more entertaining, but I prefer that relaxed voice as well. I'm hesitant to criticise the change though, because I think part of it is that she's happier and more confident now, which can only be good.

>>105396632
Can always watch things that aren’t Vtubers. Watch Mythbusters, don’t break her heart with other girls. Dont forget that she does know about such things, she is friends with basically every GFE and ASMR vtuber girl, and seems to obsessively ask them about Piwwos in their chat.

>>105400659
It’s less of a put on voice than you’d think, if you listen to the spaces you can tell that her voice is generally just super high and childish normally. The change is mostly just her projecting more and having more energy.

>>105401541
Friend with the worst whores this industry has to offer, wonder how many they actually hide from her. "Oh this pillow, never seen it", meanwhile he's on every Fansly stream

>>105402150
I mean, there’s plenty of Piwwos that are oshi whores that she knows about, it hurts her feelings but she gets over it. You just don’t wanna be adding to that number.

https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/1977126276252201218
Oh dear.

>>105402821
Why would Pillow care who we watch if we also watch and support her?

>>105403195
Why is she like this just have a normal trip lady.

>>105403907
"Why does my wife care about me sleeping with other women if I also sleep with her."

It hurts her heart to see her Piwwos with other girls, and it hurts especially when someone says they have an oshi that isn't Pillow.

>>105403907
Because she genuinely loves us and wants us to be loyal to her. She wants us to hold her close in our heart the same way she hold us close in hers. To see a Piwwo whore around breaks her heart, she wants to be loved just as she loves us

http://twitch.tv/ninaninin

pillow friend doing creative halloween stuff today

>>105404089
>>105404129
>sleeping with other women
That's mental

Heads up for guys not in California for that cafe thing there is a strong implication that leftover merch will be sold online. At least I hope so.
https://x.com/neonshrine_shop/status/1976829503935774961
>Online Sale TBA

>>105404089
Not him but let's be realistic here she probably recognizes by name at very most 100-200 piwwos, most of us fly under her radar if we aren't constantly tweeting and in chat.

>>105404129
Sorry but I dont believe shes that mental even if I do watch HoloJPs

>>105404221
shadowwos stay winning and hidden from our wife

>>105404590
You're missing out. I love getting notifications from her, and she loves interacting with piwwos and knowing what we're doing and thinking.

>>105403195
uh oh

Thinking about how cute her Halloween costume ideas would be (mummy and pumpkin zombie)

>>105396134
Piwwo but betta?

>>105405234
I've tried watching her and she seems nice but I find her boring. I don't see the appeal beyond her body-cams.

>>105404173
I need to save up for the standee or I'm gonna crash out on Twitter

>>105405215
Somebody needs to draw a lewd of Pillow being poorly covered up in a mummy outfit

does she know about us /here/?

>>105407172
She's aware of 4chan and /vt/ but I don't think she comes here.

Just found Pillow a week ago.

It's safe right? i'm not going to get jump scared by some patreon/fansly links down the line?

I'm Just enjoying the CGDCT atmosphere and her youtube content is just the kind i'm looking for.

>>105410461
Pillow has been SFW since her channel's creation. Pillow doesn't make even the tiniest of lewd or dirty jokes; she even gets actively uncomfortable whenever her friends make inappropriate jokes. I promise you, she will never, ever go lewd

>>105407172
She loves to ego surf, so she found out she's talked about on /VT/ at least. Unfortunately, all the posts were very unsavory and she now sticks to ego surfing on Twitter

>>105410461
She used to have a Patreon, and you can look it up, but it's all SFW, just asmr teasers and behind the scenes stuff mostly.

>>105403195
I'll find it!

>>105411194
That's perfect, thank you

I'll carry on with her VoDs till the 15th and then grab a seat at the back

>>105411780
Feel free to chat and join the membership (she even has a $1 option), she's always happy to see new piwwos.

I’ve decided I want to stop being such a big huge slut of a viewer and make Pillowdear my oshi I’m getting piller pilled I’m taking the orange pill

How do I cheat on Pillowdear send tweet

Pillow is probably having sesbian lex with another girl right now...

>>105417006
Olive hopefully.

>>105417006
yeah, it was 'pillow biting'.
thank you thank you very much

Piwwos!!

>>105420061
I really like when she does that.

>>105420988
Her love for Piwwos is unmatched.

Pillow cute!

>>105396774
I'm a glitchfag but I dropped her over this.

Dancing with Pillow

>>105411231
We could've had a Pillow who regularly comes here and even posts occasionally...

>>105422868
You don't actually want that. You think you do but you don't.

>>105422929
Why wouldn't I? I still post stuff here that I'd like her to read, even though she likely won't. It'd be nice to communicate with her anonymously.

>>105422973
I prefer to directly communicate so I can make her love me more than all the other Piwwos with my incredible charms.

>>105422973
every openly /here/ chuuba becomes the plaything of schizos, listen to the other anon, he knows.

Pillow is too smart to be checking here often, but she likely does check every once in a while. Probably only hurts her heart to see it when Piwwos are directly stating shit that cheats on her, it's not like she cares about every single person who uses the internet and what they think, she's mostly just concerned with the people who love her.

I'm pretty sure she checks /here/ every so often. Her desire to make piwwos happy overrides any amount of horny/schizo posting.

>>105424021
She loves hornypiwwoss

Driving Pillow to get some takoyaki

Pillow is the type of girl to start happy flapping during sex

>>105387565
T-the legendary 4chan elder? Is in love with pillowdear??

>>105426916
Oh yeah, he's one of our most prominent posters. We can usually recognize each other's posts. Let's just say he and I have a... history.

Would pillow be angry about the grifter whore accusations I throw at her GFE friends or would she actually secretly agree, I just wonder how much she actually knows but obviously would never say

>>105426998
She probably wouldn't like that you said that about her friends. She's a nice person. Even though she does things her own way and might disagree with some of their decisions, I'm sure that she still likes them.

>>105426998
I don't know if she'd "agree" per se but I think she'd understand. Womyn generally understand most persyns are whores although since she is neurodivergent it may be harder for her to identify them.

My love for vtubing is unironically fading. I only have 3 vtubers left I give a fuck about. Pillow is the closest I have to an oshi of the 3 (the other two are no threat to her btw and not GFE), but even keeping up with her is a struggle. I wanted to use this break as an opportunity to catch up on Pillow streams I’ve missed but it just doesn’t appeal to me as much as it used to. Equally, I have nothing to replace vtubers with. Pillow leaving for a bit came at a really bad time for me and has given me time to rethink my relationship with vtubers in general :(

>>105427284
I don't know about you, but when I told her I'd be with her forever I meant it.

>>105427284
I know how you feel. I wouldn’t say I’m as bad as you but my enjoyment has reduced. Pillow is literally doing nothing wrong. It’s me. I think when a girl is so perfect it makes you want someone like her irl and it’s a constant internal battle having to accept it can never happen. If your oshi is more of an entertainer or kayfabe like Korone, it’s probably easier to deal with for she’s just a cute funny person you want to root for. I actually WANT Pillow.

Maybe some of you can accept being single forever, and under different circumstances maybe I'd be one of you, but I have parents I don't want to disappoint. I love Pillow and I want to spend the rest of my life with her, but I have to be realistic, and at some point I have to stop using my love for her as an excuse to not put myself out there. Not yet though.

>>105427539
Yeah that's pretty much my problem. She's not at fault at all. I'm just a couple years older than her and starting to think seriously about how my life's going, which is not at all, and dedicating myself to Pillow in the delusion that I can be with her one day is one of the things that's holding me back.

>>105427539
This is fandead-tier

>>105427620
Anon you post on /vt/. You're already a disappointment to your parents.

>>105427539
Exactly. Having to remind myself daily I'll never have her is a constant source of pain and sadness and it eats away at my soul, so quiet moments like this without distraction allow me to see myself and my engagement in this hobby in third person, seeing how damaging and time-wasting it is when I could be bettering myself to find a real Pillow. I love her to bits and she's shown me what I want and value. I'll go schizo if I continue loving someone I can never have.

>>105427620
What's more important, your dumb Asian culture or the one woman who loves you?

>>105427637
Well, they don't know that.

>>105427663
I'm white and she doesn't love me in the way that I want and need. I'll always appreciate what she does for lonely people like me, but it's not a substitute for anything.

>>105427710
Schizos here will hate you for telling the truth but vtubers are a temporary solution to numb the void inside us incels, she might like us but she definitely doesn't love us, and I'll never have the relationship I want with her. Anon, just please don't blow up in the discord again.

No woman will ever love you as much as pillow

>>105427789
Pillow has met me and seen me irl. I know I'm unattractive but she was still very kind, shy and even complimented me but there's no way she loves me. I feel like I kind of let her down and want to improve myself.

>>105427783
Why would even risk breaking his psychosis and triggering a schizo melty?

>>105427783
I'm not an incel. I recognise that my problems are my own and I just choose not to do anything about them.
I think she does love us, but it's obviously not the intimate, personal love that you'd have for a romantic partner.
>Anon, just please don't blow up in the discord again.
You're confusing me with someone else.

>>105427857
The sooner you grow up the better. Take your meds.

Are frenchmen who tweet sweetly allowed in this community ?

>>105427898
>You're confusing me with someone else.
Sorry, I didn't really mean "again" in that (you) were the one who did it before, since I'm not 100% my hunch who you are is right. I just don't want that to happen again.

>pillow goes on a short break
>a few days later piwwows get so low they reveal they're all secretly depressed and struggling

>>105427849
Pillow has very real love for the Piwwos, it's just not romantic. It necessarily cannot be romantic, you cannot romantically love people who you do not really know, and you can't romantically love thousands of people at once. Pillow has admiration, respect, and devotion to the Piwwos. She is committed to her desire to make us happy and do everything she can. She does pretty much every single thing she can, insofar as it doesn't violate her values.

There's costs to it, I believe it's something that Kiara dealt with last year, where she had a few fans that killed themselves and it came to her attention. Everything that they do is like dancing for a crowd on stage, they can't come down from the stage to help someone who's fallen over, that would ruin the dance for everyone else.

She loves the Piwwos, just not the in the way some Piwwos need.

>>105427919
I don't see why not? Her stream times aren't always great for Europeans but she'd never push anyone anyway because of their nationality, and sweet tweets are definitely her favorite type of tweet.

>>105427988
>secretly

>>105427919
No she hates you specifically.

>>105428001
>she had a few fans that killed themselves and it came to her attention
A few?!

>>105427988
I'm doing fine, I'm gonna marry Pillow and we shall have 6 children and a large ranch home in Oklahoma. Olive can live in the barn.

>>105427988
We've talked about it before.

>>105427961
Oh, okay. Well I think I'm pretty well-adjusted so you don't need to worry.

>>105428087
A bit fruity...

>>105428017
This is why I like piwwos, I make an in-joke about a Michael Neko fan but you guys are super accepting regardless. I hope your oshi comes back charged up with energy, friend.

>>105428001
Yeah I saw that Kiara thing. It really broke her for a while for she felt like if he or someone in the community let her know she would've dropped everything to help him 1on1. She even meets fans physically irl as her roommate when they attend roommate events, she's really close and trusting with them. If Kiara got hit hard for knowing she could've saved a KFP, imagine how broken someone like Pillow would be if a piwwo ended his life. She'd probably quit.

>>105427988
This is a perfect time to prepare for the androids!

>>105428191
>imagine how broken someone like Pillow would be if a piwwo ended his life
That's why I was so disgusted by the guy who threatened to do that a few threads back. Whether he was serious or not, that kind of thing getting back to Pillow would devastate her. The thought makes me sick.

>>105428191
I don't imagine Pillow feasibly COULD quit. Before vtubing, she basically just worked a shit minimum wage job. It's her only skill and basically the only thing she's done in life.

I think ultimately, as much as we love her dearly for how loving, caring, and kind she is, she's going to need to learn one day about how to be professional about detaching herself from her audience. There's a reason why basically no long-term professional entertainers are as weak toward their audience as Pillow is.

>>105428001
>Pillow has very real love for the Piwwos, it's just not romantic
Remind me why any piwwo should trust you over what pillow actually says again?
>It necessarily cannot be romantic, you cannot romantically love people who you do not really know, and you can't romantically love thousands of people at once.
This is not just pillowdear newfagism, this is vtuber newfagism. There's unironically studies, entire research papers on this topic(all relatively new because it's essentially a new field) that contradict this. it's a dumb as fuck argument when "the parasocial goes both ways" is a hyper common sentiment at this point(even though vtubing isn't even truly "parasocial" by definition)

>>105428254
>>105428254
>think ultimately, as much as we love her dearly for how loving, caring, and kind she is, she's going to need to learn one day about how to be professional about detaching herself from her audience
This is basically against her entire personal ethos. Pillow isn't just any old entertainer, she's special beyond words because she is quite literally built different

Buying olive a vibrator to help her explore her own body and she instead takes it apart to study the electronics.

>>105428283
That's just the definition of romantic love, you necessarily cannot love thousands of people in the same way you love a husband. You can lie to yourself and claim it, but Pillow has neither attraction nor true commitment to any Piwwo, because she is forced to be committed to all Piwwos. She exists in a state of self-imposed detachment because she's a professional. As much as she loves Piwwos, this is her career.

>>105428539
It breaks my heart when she talks about the romantic experiences she's missed out on. I know how it feels. I know she's chosen this life, but I think she feels like even if she hadn't she'd struggle to find someone.

>>105428859
I do think there will come a time when she does actually have IRL romance and gets with someone, she'd probably remain as Pillowdear, she'd just have to go through a VERY laborious process of changing her boundaries with the Piwwos. Biggest issue girls like her have with finding people is they don't want to pull from the audience because the audience is attached to "Pillowdear", and a girl like her would be insanely insecure about the person being let down by not living up to the expectations built up by her streaming persona. There's a reason she can't just stream all the time, it takes genuine effort to "be" Pillowdear for her.

I wish Pillow would have virtual sex with us piwwos.

>>105428962
Now I know you don’t even watch her. “It takes genuine effort to be ‘PillowDear’ for her.” She’s not playing a character, she’s always just been herself from day one, and I mean day one from her channel’s creation. She’s a clingy, lonely, loving girl who has tons of love in her heart to give but no one to give it to. She loves the Piwwos in the same exact way that we love her, and she has explicitly said multiple times that she wants to do this forever. I suspect that in the same way that Piwwos believe they’ll never find a girl as wonderful as Pillow, Pillow also doesn’t believe that she could find a relationship as loving and stable as the one she has with the Piwwos. On top of that, Pillow could not ever bear the thought of breaking our hearts by suddenly having a romantic partner. Pillow would rather hurt herself than to ever hurt any of us

>>105429127
You say all that with such authority as if you're Pillow herself

>>105429117
You watch Karin AND Pillow? Thats next-level schizo

>>105428539
I don't recall you being the arbiter on what is and isn't romantic love. What IS true though, is that you are calling her a liar and handwaving away the gravity of that implication. For a person who repeatedly states how much honesty is one of her most important values, no less.
You are basically assuming pillow is like you. You have failed to consider that she isn't.

>>105429164
Emotionally dependent retards absolutely refuse to interface with anything that goes against their belief that Pillow is unironically their wife until the day she dies. Notice how I even said in my original statement that she'd take a long time and have to redraw a lot of boundaries laboriously in order to ever be in a state where she could consider a relationship. The schitzo rewrites it as "Suddenly having a relationships", because anything other than her devoting her entire life to servicing his need to be parasocial is whoring out.

>>105429244
No you retard, romantic love has a definition. Pillow DOES love the Piwwos, but it necessarily cannot be romantic love, because romantic love requires: attraction, specific and focused commitment, and exclusivity.

Pillow is not universally attracted to all Piwwos in all ways, because she herself has stated what her preferences are. Her relationship with the Piwwos is not exclusive, she has it with every Piwwo.

>>105429234
Karin is cute. Pillow is cute. No males. I'm a simple piwwo so that's enough for me.

>>105429343
>She herself has stated what her preferences are
What are you even talking about? Pillow isn’t so shallow that looks are a dealbreaker for her. She’s even been a bit upset with her mom for finding out that a reason she broke up with one of her many boyfriends was because she didn’t find him handsome enough. Pillow isn’t attracted to looks, she’s literally a personality person

>>105429164
He's saying what pillow herself has said. The burden of proof is quite literally on the people claiming that pillow is not in this relationship for the long while specifically BECAUSE you contradict years of consistently worded expressed feelings, beliefs and ideals she has said.
You do not seem to understand your position here. You are the one accusing pillow of lying, and in the position of having to prove your claim against the already established status. You saying this when the onus is on you is retarded.

>>105429439
Is being a gooner a dealbreaker?

>>105429524
The most prominent horny poster still gets equal replies and attention from her as anybody else. She won’t thrilled about it, but she’ll love you as long as you love her

>>105429343
>because romantic love requires: attraction, specific and focused commitment, and exclusivity.
this is literally you making up a definition and using it to accuse pillow of lying
>because she herself has stated what her preferences are
this is quite literally such a newfag tier take that I can only laugh at it. Lurk 10 thousand years.
>"I don't really care about physical appearance"
I'll give you a hint, it was mid comfy morning in mid 2024. Now go do reps.

>>105429593
Can I become the supreme gooner? Can I surpass the original?

>>105429599
Pillow is a fujo and is only attracted to white twinks.

>>105429626
Please don't, I have enough problems trying to wrangle him when he gets lost in the sauce as is, I don't need to pull double duty

This argument is a /pillow/ classic. Some of us think that Pillow's feelings will change and she'll move on from dedicating herself to us, while others think she'll do this for as long as she can. I only hope that we all trust that her heart will always be in the right place, whatever she decides to do, and that nobody lashes out at her.

>>105429702
How bad is he?

>>105429702
You gotta spill the tea one of these days

>>105429686
...actually, does Jeff the killer count as a white twink?

>>105429767
Somebody said it out before, but so far he’s posted posted feet, armpit licking, general NSFW, and pet play

>>105429801
All I’m saying is 9S is her favorite.

>>105429813
Disgusting, sickening. Send me the images so that I can confirm this.

>>105429870
They’re all up on R34. His NSFW account used to have them too but a new law passed so he deleted them all and went private

>>105429862
9S is just one of the ones she's gushed over tho, and that wasn't even the appearance part of him, that was the tragic romance of it. the recent time she mentioned him wasn't the first time nor the most extensively she went into detail about it

>>105429973
She’s a fujo gooner, ask her to show off the fujo journal and she’ll burst into flames about her OCs.

https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1977413946283037145
I can't go anyway, but I feel bad that I would never, ever do any of this stuff with other guys, even though it would make Pillow happy. With fempiwwos, maybe.

>>105430031
The weirdest one for me so far was when she was all over the literal monster ciri was fighting in the new witcher game trailer

>>105430077
>fempiwwos
Does exist?

>>105430170
*Do those exist?

>>105430083
She’s just a silly lady.

>>105430077
Sorry Pillow, I’m only around because I want to marry you, I could kill every Piwwo with a rock and I would feel nothing. I will be nice to them though, since you’d be sad otherwise.

I would like to point out that yes she liked twinks, but every time someone in chat says they’re older she goes “THATS SO CUTE!” And then tries to talk to them and call out their name. I think pillow also liked old men.

Maybe old men x twink yaoi

One of the fempiwwos are going to be at the MG today and if you guys do anything weird to her I will personally make sure pillow hears of it. I know some people are going who didn’t go to offkai, but piwwos are cool and nice so you be nice to them too if you’re going today.

>>105430077
Wonder if anyone from /here/ will be there

>>105430367
Reminds me of a cat I know.

>>105430452
Don't worry, I walk around with an engagement ring at all times. I will propose on the spot.

>>105430471
I will!

>>105431658
Not you, Pillow.

>>105431658
Please take lots of photos for Pillow. I'd also like to see them, since I can't go.

Uhhhh yeah so Love and Appreciation for Pillowdear. I like Pillowdear and she’s my oshi.

>>105431961
STFU Olive

She knows about the bricks..

Less than 2 hours away
I feel like my heart’s gonna explode

>>105433345
Good luck Piwwo. Write about how that goes and I’ll use it to pregame for future M&Gs. I gotta work on the rizz

Over under on how many piwwos are overweight?

https://x.com/neonshrine_shop/status/1977465969284178208
This setup is cool but I don't think I could ever do this except in total privacy.

>>105436255
I’m really hopeful she’ll do another meet and greet in VRChat some day. It was really nice seeing her take pictures in there with Piwwos and give them hugs. I was actually a bit sad to find out she didn’t plan on doing one this year

>>105436475
>I was actually a bit sad to find out she didn’t plan on doing one this year
That's a shame. If it was a group thing rather than one-on-one I'd probably sit it out though.

>>105437985
It was a one on one. Just like always, though, a mod nearby will be watching and listening

Do you think Piller would be upset with me if I watched Saba a little bit or no. I don't think she "counts" if you know what I mean.

>>105439615
saba is too cute. denied

>>105439615
This has been asked loads of times and the answer is always no, as long as it's just for casual entertainment and you don't have feelings for her.

>>105439785
What if I do have feelings for her? What if I want both of them to be my girlfriend?

>>105439815
Anon.. Saba is a child

>>105439837
...So is pillow? I like children, get over it.

>>105439866
pillow is like 17 but saba is like 8 at most. big difference

>>105439915
Yes I have two little sisters and they're both my girlfriend

>>105429252
You're literally cuckposting.

>>105441192
Pillow has talked wistfully about the romantic experiences that she's missed out on. You'd prefer that she died alone, which is immensely cruel. There's nothing wrong with wanting Pillow to be happy. Most of us who feel that way want to be the lucky guy, but some of us are more realistic about our odds than others.

>>105441396
I’m neither wishing nor preferring that she died alone. Everything I said is based on her own words, actions, and through my observations of her online activity over the past half decade. Pillow isn’t alone, and doesn’t feel alone. She’s happy with what she’s got and to go out of her way to find a romantic partner would betray everything she’s done in the past 5 years as well as every single Piwwo she’s ever loved. You think having a “real” parter is what would make her happy because you don’t understand her at all and want to force your own beliefs onto her because you think your beliefs are the only correct ones

>>105441396
eight fucking bears

>>105434261
Wait, I just realized that Pillow is near the cafe in California and is likely still visiting food places nearby. I’m hoping this way taken days ago and not posted the instant she took this picture. I doubt anybody would go out their way to find her, but this is horrendous opsec

>>105441522
Yes, she has us, but she obviously feels like she's missing out on something. I don't want that to feel like that for the rest of her life. You think that it would be wrong for her to do anything about it, so by implication you want her to die without a romantic partner or experiencing any of the things that she's spoken longingly about.

>>105441580
Just goes to show that Pillow is a good girl. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

>>105441700
Only a cat would deny pillow a real lover.

>>105441700
You want Pillow to break all her promises and cuck her fans . No matter how you try to rationalize it, you are a cuck poster.

>>105441700
You’re putting words in my mouth that I’m not even implying. Again, Pillow considers her relationship with the Piwwos to be romantic, and to seek a romantic partner outside of her online activity would be considered by her own standards. Yes, she craves physical affection, but she seems to like every type of love language. She wouldn’t betray her own beliefs just to learn what physical affection is like. Once again, you’re ignoring all of her words and beliefs and forcing your own onto her

>>105441761
>>105441823

There is nothing wrong will pillow finally getting a physical romantic partner. Stop forcing her you parasocials.

>>105441748
cut it out bageltard

>>105441841
Nobody is forcing her, she chose this for herself and she is happy what she’s built up. The only one forcing her is you, you fucking weirdo. You’re the one who wants her to go out and be a whore so you can feel self righteous and vindicated about owning le parasocials while ignoring what Pillow truly wants

>>105441889
No, I'm actually here to piss off a menhera cat.

>>105441761
It doesn't matter what you label me. I want Pillow to be happy and I know that can only be good.

>>105441823
I've forced nothing on her. I'm sharing my opinion.

>>105441889
>You’re the one who wants her to go out and be a whore
You people always reveal how bitter and hateful you really are. If that's what you'd think of Pillow if she ever decided to pursue a romantic relationship, however tactfully she went about it, you don't really love her.

>>105441580
Guys this isn’t her picture it’s one from in the discord server

>>105441889
cat paws wrote this post

>>105442054
>If the girl who claims to love you, to always be with you, and demands all of your love decided to leave and go be with another man, then you should be happy about it
Holy shit you really are a cuck

>>105442054
>"You don't really love her unless you let her cheat on you!"
Cuck poster confirmed.

these threads start making a lot more sense once you realize the cuckposter is literally deet

I’m gonna go jerk off to NTR, I’ll rejoin once I’m done

who the hell is deet

This is who is at fault for all the cuckposting

>>105442371
On the same level as the ex-fandead, hates said ex-fandead.

the cuckposter can't be deet, he's busy gathering his towas on the milk trail

Is Pillow the designated GF VTuber to take in refugees of heartbroken and betrayed GFE fans?

guys this isn't funny, your deetposting made ino sad :(

>>105442130
>>105442147
In the real world we understand that Pillow isn't actually our girlfriend. She doesn't want a personal relationship with any of us. She doesn't want us to know who or where she is. She doesn't want to move in with any of us. If I sent her intimate messages she'd tell me to stop. You're completely delusional if you think that Pillow's love for us, while genuine, is the same as for a romantic partner. So no, it wouldn't be cheating if she decided to pursue a relationship.

Nobody's said that she'll suddenly announce that she's seeing someone while still making GFE content and acting clingy and parasocial with piwwos. We trust her and believe that she's a good person. She'll always put our feelings first and wouldn't do anything before being honest with us and changing her content.

You still don't understand that I want to be with her. I don't want it to be someone else. I certainly think I'd be a better partner to her than most of the awful people who post here, like you. But I also accept that it's not a certainty, and I'd rather Pillow be happy with someone else than alone and miserable.

>>105442565
Pillow is the first and only VTuber I've ever loved. I've probably fantasised about a life with her more than with any other woman. I still can't imagine ever loving anyone the same way.

the bagels never bothered me anyway

>>105396774
What stream was that?

as if the discord raids weren't bad enough, now this thread has redditspacers

>>105442746
I promise you, nobody from the discord is here. As for the Reddit spacer, it makes sense that he’s a cuck now

Can we stop with the daily fucking cuckposting I swear to god

>>105442746
>>105442769
People from PillowCord are definitely here but have never to my knowledge engaged in a "raid". Mentioning my post's formatting to avoid responding to its content is a sign of insecurity.

>>105442668
>So no, it wouldn't be cheating if she decided to pursue a relationship.
Cuck

Reminder 8 has thread IDs so antis could easily be filtered if we moved there. Plus actual moderation.

>>105442839
Whatever you want to call it, it's not against the rules, so I'm going to keep doing it and nobody will stop me.

Time for Gotham's redemption!

>>105442769
>>105442846
deet is literally posting ITT as we speak

>>105442875
You mean you get to play janny and impose your particular idea of what this general should be like? We already told you that's a stupid idea.

>>105442880
you're a faggot

>>105442846
>Mentioning my post's formatting to avoid responding to its content is a sign of insecurity.
I'm not doing it to avoid responding to its content, I'm doing it to point out that you're a fucking redditor and so are all the cucks pretending to be piwwos

>>105442846
I think you need to accept and believe in Pillow’s words, but I don’t think you can. You said it yourself, you want to be with Pillow. By extension, you want to have Pillow all to yourself. It’s selfish, you can’t accept the love she’s giving out for what it is, it’s just not enough for you. You want more, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. The way you’re going about it, is though. You can’t accept things for the way that they are right now, you need to have her or else you’re unhappy. And if you’re unhappy, then surely she’s also unhappy. What’s so hard to understand that she does view the collective of Piwwos as a romantic partner? Why do you think she always demands our loyalty while always giving us her loyalty even if we sometimes fall short? This is what she wants to do, she’s not doing it for money, she’s not doing it for fame or notoriety, she’s doing this purely out of love. Why can’t you accept her love? Why do you insist that she needs to seek love somewhere else? Why do you insist it has to be someone else?

>>105442954
Hey, I can still post. I guess that didn't work. Pillow wouldn't like that language by the way.

>>105442981
It's really desperate to accuse me (falsely) of using websites that you don't like instead of engaging with what I say. You could ignore me too. I really don't mind.

>>105442668
You've still yet to address the issue where pillowdear has verbally explicitly and emphatically contradicted your statements thus requiring you to either call her an unabashed liar or to admit you're wrong. It's a binary thing.
Pillow would quite literally hate you if she knew you felt this way. And I know this because I've been there during times where she reacted to people who spoke like you. She was angry. They were banned.

You are a narcissist by definition though, that is why posts here don't bother your moral conscience(you do not possess one)

>>105443047
Pillow wouldn't like your cuckposting. But then you wouldn't know about that since you're not actually a Piwwo, just a sad pathetic sack of shit.

>>105443043
why do you sound Israeli

>>105441192
I’m gonna get flat chested pillow paizuri

Pillow will never have sex. She will never score.

>>105442875
But then I’d be less able to call people slurs

Now all of that having been said, I'm okay with Pillow engaging in some skinship with Olive, you know?

>>105443259
She’s gonna have hot, steamy lesbian sex with another girl tonight, just like last night

>>105443043
>The way you’re going about it, is though.
What do you think I'm actually doing besides posting here? Do you think I've ever sent her a marriage proposal or love confession? Do you think I use pet names with her like a few piwwos weirdly do? The full extent of my feelings for Pillow never leave this general and won't for as long as it's clear that she won't accept that kind of love. I understand and accept that she's chosen piwwos. I just don't believe that she'll never feel differently.

>>105443162
>You've still yet to address the issue where pillowdear has verbally explicitly and emphatically contradicted your statements thus requiring you to either call her an unabashed liar or to admit you're wrong.
Tell me what I said in the first paragraph that isn't true.
>And I know this because I've been there during times where she reacted to people who spoke like you. She was angry. They were banned.
Give me a specific example, timestamped.

>>105443177
>you're not actually a Piwwo
Wrong. Also, why are you so rude? I used to talk like you, but Pillow has been a positive influence on the way I conduct myself. I hope she can have the same effect on you someday.

>>105443259
honestly, it's not that she lets us be special to her, but it's sad that she can't get laid if she wanted to

>>105443339
She can have a little bit of threesome, as a treat, but only if she’s a good girl and doesn’t piss on the floor.

>>105443393
>erm actually I'm a GOOD person because I think Pillow is a liar!

Alright piwwos that's enough paragraph posting!

>>105443436
I will bear the burden of crushing her uterus, don’t worry guys.

>>105443436
It's fine. She read the serial killer shit here >>105443393 and lost all desire forever

>>105443393
>I just don't believe that she'll never feel differently
You are literally doubting her love, her words, and everything she’s done in the past five years if you don’t trust her to love us long term. I can’t help you, you’re going to keep doubting her until you learn to take her words to heart.

>>105443393
Pillow likes my cute pet name for her, and she likes me and calls me cute.

>>105443496
No, I'm a bad person. I'm just more polite than you.

>>105443514
>serial killer shit
Can you explain?

>>105443541
You're boring me now.

>>105443564
That's fine, but I cringe a little when people call her "darling" or something like that.

>>105443564
Yeah I noticed that part of cuckposter's post. Apparently calling her honey or something is bad and wrong despite Pillow calling us darling all the time. Cuckposter is 100% a 'parasocial fucks' type.

>>105443339
I’m also okay with it, but only if I get to watch

>>105443640
>I cringe a little when people call her "darling"
Cuckposter confirmed for not watching Pillow

>>105443673
I don’t care about either of the retards cuz you’re both cringe and I’m the only based man alive.

>>105443673
Yup which is why it's laughable that he claims to be a Piwwo. He's not fooling anyone.

>>105443640
Your posts read like a loser writing his manifesto and that stink doesn't wash off

When have I ever called Pillow a liar? She's very honest with us and I trust her fully. I just don't believe that a 22-year-old woman isn't going to feel differently about relationships for the rest of her life.

>>105443673
If she likes it I don't have a problem with it.

>>105443757
It was a bit short for a manifesto, don't you think?

>>105443514
Ironic, considering one of the main anti-cuck posters ITT sent death threats to his previous oshi

>>105443812
Who?

>>105443812
I keep seeing bro reacting to people by saying that if Pillow does X she’d be a whore, if she did Y she’d be a liar.

Ive come to the conclusion everyone here is a retarded unstable freak, and me not being one is exactly why Pillow will marry me.

>>105443964
The people who act like they're defending Pillow tend to quickly reveal how awful they are and how soon they'd viciously turn on her, then accuse other people of not being real piwwos.

>>105443812
lol you know who he is? It would make sense that he did that considering the posts we've seen. I hope he stays away from Pillow.

Goodnight /pillow/. I enjoyed sparring like this, even with mentally unstable people who hate me.

>>105444335
All Piwwos are obligated to make out and make up by our fujoshi princess.

>>105444335
goodnight JV

>>105444228
>You know who he is?
...yes.

I have no clue whats going on here, but I just want to say that I listened to one of her asmr streams a bit ago and snapped awake when she asked if you use 4chan or reddit. I was not expecting that.

>>105444597
did you see any paralysis demons from the sudden wake up? She may be on to you.

>>105444335
Why don't you fuck off to one of the NTR-friendly vtubers instead? Why do you insist on shitting up the thread for one of the few pure GFE vtubers with your constant posting about how much you wish she'd cuck her fans?

>I’m the only one that’s right
>I’m going to ignore everything Pillow has said and done for the past 5 years
>I think this is true, therefore, everybody should think it’s true
>Why does everybody hate me

Argument hours are over, it’s time for horny posting

>>105445221
I'm gonna pound Pillow's pussy extra hard, just for you Piwwo.

>>105445478
thanks olive, i'll begin channeling now. if the ancient witch sexts are accurate the spell should begin manifesting as icy chills and sweaty palms with a touch of mild disdain

No more crabs in a bucket, we should all be discussing how to optimally flirt with Pillow. I'm gonna win, but I want you guys to feel good about yourselves.

>>105445751
Wrong, we should be discussing the most optimal way to make Pillow cum? Do you think she enjoys having her nipples playedwith? Her super flat chest fondled?

>>105446529
She seems like the type that loves torturous edging for many hours. I look forward to the day that she sits and gives me a slow milking handjob over the course of an hour, so I retaliate by tying her up with a vibrator for several hours.

Pillow touching herself while thinking about piwwos.

I want to feed Pillow whipped cream by pouring it straight into her mouth

Olive watching a recording of me filling up her roommate on a hidden camera she installed and being surprised when I turn my head to the lens and give her a wink.

>>105448097
Pillow would rather watch me fuck Olive than leave her out, she's clingy, but she saw how sad Olive the last time and she's too nice to not include her.

/pillow/ used to be such a chill and funny place with an active femanon, what happened?

>>105448509
Cuck posters, groom posters, and schizo posters happened

>>105448559
Such a fate was inevitable.

Are there any piwwows in this thread Pillow would recognize? Like are there piwwows who are very active in her community and reply to her posts frequently, or is it mostly the more hidden piwwows?

>>105449196
I think it’s half and half. Though, I imagine most would protect their anonymity, but we do have a couple who could be easily named since they’ve straight up linked their main accounts on here or just have terrible opsec

>>105449196
Not me. I only post in /pillow/

>>105449196
Pillow mentions me like nearly every other stream currently, and actually directly referenced me by name last stream, for which I am very happy. I don't really mind, I try to be nice on her, I'm mostly just around for messing around and also collecting information since a lot of the Elder Piwwos are here. I've known Pillow since even before debut, but I haven't really kept up on the lore till pretty recently, so 4chan is just the best place to keep up with that shit.

I miss Pillow. I want to be held by Pillow again and be called a good piwwo.

I wish Pillow would say “good boy.” She tried it once, and only once, and she even tried to be more inclusive by immediately following up with “good girl” right after, but it wasn’t enough. She had a tranny spaz the fuck out about it in her comments and Pillow has never done it since

>>105428105
I think it was just one fan who anhero'd for completely unrelated reasons, but it still hit Kiara very hard.

>>105450318
My friend group talked about it several months ago so I looked it up. Apparently, it was a fan who lost to their depression. It broke up Kiara bad and she offered to DM any KFP who “feels like leaving this world”

>>105450631
I’m extremely glad that KFP aren’t nearly as parasocial as a lot of other fanbases, because you can’t really maintain that if your fans are rabid like the Piwwos. Pillow would LOVE to be able to say that, but she knows that it’d be taken advantage of, she’d have schitzo Piwwos in her DMs every single day complaining about every little thing. When people are emotionally dependent, there is basically no cap on how needy and clingy they get, because the more they’re fueled, the more dependent they become until you basically can’t do anything without upsetting them.

>>105449959
I love Pillow, and therefore I’ll be nice and try to be kind towards the Piwwos when I can, but holy fucking shit the Piwwos are very good at hurting her. Shes done a great job of cultivating a generally loving and supporting community, but even this thread shows, you’ve got a bunch of extremely parasocial Piwwos that get hyper vitriolic the second something upsets them.

>>105448509
Time to bake on towa.

>>105451182
The early /pillow/ threads this year would've had every piwwow banned on towa. It was funny but extremely degenerate. /pillow/ was around last year, too, but I wasn't around for the earliest threads so I don't know what the general mood or content was at the start.

>>105451182
>>105452411
you guys are welcome on /zords/ if you don't mind sharing a space. Pillow is smallcorpocore

>>105450957
be glad you don't know about kakun

>>105444450
Who?

>>105445221
I only love Pillow.

>>105445402
When did I ask that?

>>105449196
She would recognise me.

>>105452670
Oh fuck off already

>>105448559
I've been called all of these things, as well as "fempiwwo", "Olive" and "Pillow".

Is it bad that I want to have sex with Olive while Pillow is tied up and forced to watch

You don't have to sexualize literally every female in Pillow's life.

>>105452772
Or Pillow

>>105449959
>I wish Pillow would say “good boy.”
I'm not into that.

>>105452787
It's only rightful for a man to be attracted to a woman he wishes to be with. Pillow could have a face that looks like she was hit with a 2x4, and I'd still think she's a radiant goddess because she is everything that I want in a woman. I love her for her personality, I don't really give a shit that she's built like a teenage boy.

>>105451182
8moe is also comfy.

>>105452832
Do you think I'm not attracted to her? I just don't post my sexual fantasies on the Internet for anyone to read. Pillow doesn't invite that kind of attention and I don't think she likes it, even though she tolerates it.

>>105449959
>and she even tried to be more inclusive by immediately following up with “good girl” right after
critical mistake

>>105452787
Well she's not helping...

>>105453016
I want to cum on those pale, slender fingers and her dainty hands

Best Pillow VOD to watch?

>>105453070
Finally watched this one yesterday. Highly recommend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWqZ2HauYSg

>>105453070
Date with the emo kid
https://youtube.com/live/RhLbwhaGOXE

>>105453070
For my personal enjoyment, I have a series of clips that I like to watch back of her reacting to stuff I say, or interacting with me. All of the best streams are the ones where I've made a personal connection to her.

Beyond that, the rewatchable ones are usually her gaming or reacting to things. Her Poppy Playtime VOD is fun.

>>105453095
Legitimately one of the best streams she's made in a long while. Made me feel like I was 15 again, but this time I had a cute weeb emo gf who was obsessed with me.

>>105453126
If I remember correctly, she did that stream for the depressed gosling eurowwos who were sad because they could never catch her live and chat with her. I think it was also around that time she decided to dedicate Wednesdays for eurowwos.

>>105453095
That was a fun one.

As this is schizo central, I might as well share a fear I have. I’m worried this time away from us will give Pillow perspective, an opportunity to rethink her connection with us and potentially change her content somewhat. She’ll be as considerate as she could be, but I’m worried we’ll look back at this break as the moment when things started to pivot. Maybe things might improve, but we’ve had a good run as it is and it was inevitable that it would come to an end.

>>105453850
She’s had plenty of breaks away from us before and she somehow keeps coming back clingier than ever. I don’t know if you’re shitstirring by adding fuel to the schizo fire of if you’re genuinely concerned, but I promise you nothing will change. Hell, she’s literally giving us good morning and good night tweets. She got so exited about eating mochi that she sent several rapid fire tweets about it. She even us about an encounter with the noodle lady. Even while she’s away from us, even while she’s out having us, it’s clear that she’s always thinking about us

>>105453850
You’re going to set the clingy gosling eurowwos off with that one. Please take your meds piwwo

>>105453897(me)
Holy fuck, it’s 4am and I cannot type on mobile to save my life. I need to go to sleep

>>105453850
I don't think that's going to happen, but I wouldn't hold it against her. The worrying thing is that some people in this thread have revealed that they would immediately turn on her in a very ugly way if she ever did that.

>>105453850
Her love for the Piwwos is something she's solid on. She's been a vtuber for over 2 years, and before that she was still making content and doing shit. She's been entirely consistent from the very start, literally from day 1. If she was going to ever change her mind, she'd have done so by now.

Not to mention that there have been GFE girls who changed their mind before, but that's ALWAYS been a result of them not really being serious about it from the start. Pillow genuinely loves the Piwwos very much, she wouldn't switch up over a little 6 day vacation. Over the course of the years things might change, but I'm talking that shit would be years off, and she's mature enough to openly communicate with the Piwwos about that sort of thing.

>>105453970
It does bother me to see the way that some Piwwos would turn on her, you can't really say you love someone and also would immediately hate and despise them if they stopped being exactly what you want them to be.

>>105453996
>If she was going to ever change her mind, she'd have done so by now.
I really just want you to consider the possibility that a Pillow approaching her 30s might start to think differently about her life and what she wants, like just about every other person who's ever lived. Otherwise, you're going to be disappointed and (depending on your temperament) possibly do something that hurts her.

>>105454049
Hence why I said this ->"Over the course of the years things might change, but I'm talking that shit would be years off, and she's mature enough to openly communicate with the Piwwos about that sort of thing."

Frankly I hope it happens so I can date her. I'm groompilled enough to want to be her friend and shit, but I couldn't actually date her whilst she's married to the Piwwos.

>>105454072
Oh, okay. You contradicted yourself, but if that's what you actually meant then I think we feel the same way.

>>105449959
>immediately following up with “good girl” right after
I know other vtubers do this too and I actually vastly prefer just 'good piwwo' over that

>>105453970
>>105454026
>"uh so yeah I'm going to stop being affectionate and kill the central appeal of my vtuber content. I know this contradicts everything I was saying as of literally 6 days ago but I really need some cock in my life, sorry!"
>apparently I would be 'turning on her' if I stopped supporting her and dared to criticize her
You two are the fucking worst. You'd have fucking defended the worst offendors like Yuno and shit. Go be pathetic cucks elsewhere.

>>105454407
>uh so yeah I'm going to stop being affectionate and kill the central appeal of my vtuber content.
There it is. You don't care about how she feels, only what she does for you.
>I know this contradicts everything I was saying as of literally 6 days ago
Nobody has ever said that her change of heart would be sudden or driven by something like that. I'm sure that she would agonise over it for weeks, even months, because she'd be afraid of upsetting people like you, who are liable to do something that would hurt her. She'd put our feelings first and be mature enough to handle the situation tactfully.
>I really need some cock in my life, sorry!
If you really listened to how she talks about physical affection and romantic experiences, you wouldn't say such a disgusting thing about her.
>apparently I would be 'turning on her' if I stopped supporting her and dared to criticize her
It's very clear that you would lash out at her no matter how sensitively she went about a "break up" with us, or whatever you want to call it. You're a very nasty person. Please stay away from her.