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>>105453174 (OP)
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>>105453178
brap

Sora's original song doing numbers

You guys need to improve your schizospotting, calling them the wrong names makes them feel like they're succeeding at sowing confusion

>>105453185
Nice!

>>105453031
>Retweets the Biboo, Mori and Kronii one
>Doesn't retweet the CC one

Coward

>>105453186
Wow... incredible stuff

>>105453186
>unlike all the other Meet n' Greets I've seen online
lmao this guy expected a shitty walk-up meet and greet like 2views do at cons

>>105453144
Is there a reason needed to hate someone who raids mint over a Holo?

>>105453210
The CC one makes no sense, CC wouldn't dodge shit they just kiss normally

>>105453186
The dude really dropped his spaghetti in front of his oshi

>>105453225
what are you getting out of this? you must realize that no one believes your routine

>>105453236
what are you waffling on about?

>>105453210
>"do you want *insert holomem"
>"I want them so bad"
>"do you want cecilia immergreen"
>"no..."

>>105453195
don't care about your schizo pronouns I will call you whatever monkey I like

>>105453210
do cc or gigi ever repost autofister art?

>>105453185
I wonder if Sora has any benefits for being za Firsto

>>105453256
Mintcuck

>>105453136
https://x.com/hashtag/PockyXhololiveID?t=eirRsSMlSWZVPEBKLWA5LQ&
INDOCHADS

>>105453210
cause autofister is the most ded

>>105453265
>>105453268
indochads I kneel

>>105453268
https://x.com/Ging4Runner/status/1977611803329962108

>>105453204
Go back

Nimi lost lol

>>105453282
https://x.com/sandy_akbar17/status/1977618196002902301

>>105453285
>>105453291
Based

>>105453295
https://x.com/yuurizqing/status/1977489031169732722

>>105453303
Docky? Google Docky?

>>105453303
https://x.com/jeaneee__/status/1977381268728799400

>>105453315
https://x.com/TMunggaran1569/status/1977326088914383310

Damn Nimi really managed to lose to every single holoEN stream today despite the empty prime time slot, and to think that she used to be #2 in EN

>>105453285
NIMISEETHE

>>105453260
rarely

>>105453333
https://x.com/Daxef3/status/1977257066965484016
Hope I can snag some when I fly in for the ID concert

>>105453266
It’s been 2 days

>>105453334
The only #2 Nimi gets now is Mr nightmare's because he's a scatfag

>>105453375
Lel

>>105453354
you're going? oh man I'm jealous. I've wanted to visit for years

>>105453354
this is in-person only right

What did Mori mean by this last stream?

>>105453413
Why? Next time you take a dump stick your head into the toilet and take a deep breath before flushing, you'll get the same experience

>>105453260
Almost never. Even innocuous ones that's non-shippy stuff of just something they did on stream. Yet for Mori Kronii artGigi does it. Even CC is more open to retweeting stuff like that. It's something I noticed really and it becomes obvious during when CCGG invaded FuwaMoco morning and there's tonnes of art of them, and she didn't retweeted any of them. I think the last art Gigi retweeted that barely alluded to them was like 3 months ago. Call me crazy I think she really really doesn't want that ship to proliferate more than it should

>>105453470
You lost troon

Looks like a virtual korean idol group got very lucky with youtube's algorithm for their MV release. 300k views within 24 hours when their subscribers are only around 20k.
https://youtu.be/gUoj_Orj7LQ

>>105453185
You love to see it

anyone notice how bad the numbers are going for recent hololive music releases? like most of it are struggling to even get to 200k

>>105453231
if you're too smooth they'll unironically get the ick

>>105453482
>Gigi doesn't want it to become the only thing they're known for and overshadow other Holo to Holo interactions =/= Gigi hates CCGG

Are you illiterate

>>105453413
Yeah managed to snag a VIP ticket.

>>105453420
Yeah available from ID convenience stores
https://x.com/hololive_Id/status/1976150632487846215

>>105453527
Keep seething

>>105453186
Don't care you and shiori need to kys

>>105453539
any idea what the secret cards are?

>>105453539
I mean the concert

>>105453502
just kpop viewfarming things

>>105453210
They're probably tired of autofister fans making a big deal out of every interaction, especially since neither of them are into each other that way. They're just good friends. Gigi probably thought her fans would understand after her speech but grems don't really take a hint

>>105453578
why can't holofans execute this properly

>>105453573
No online streaming has been announced for the ID concert

>>105453226
this is the real truthnvk, cc is the top

>>105453582
The speech meant that she is actually in love-love with CC! I'm not delusional shipperscum!

>>105453470
>this is the most recent one
damn

>>105453470
I’m too lazy to take a screenshot but she retweeted all of these
https://x.com/meuol/status/1949872006792462492
https://x.com/neidrcj/status/1949864291907379382
https://x.com/fukuinu_daddy/status/1949854046577139759
https://x.com/yambotrkgk/status/1949980059260838168
https://x.com/kukie_nyan/status/1950133689511256291
https://x.com/tivetives/status/1950125408961077308

>>105453454
easy to say that when you're rich

>>105453582
>Grems
>When everyone and their mother probably has drawn/animated Autofister

It's funny since it looks like they want to be careful for it to not to become overbearing, yet still collab a hundred times and do that silly AFO MC.

>>105453552
NIJISEETHE

Lets just accept the fact that Nimi won and HoloEN lost hard

>>105453668
Lmao

Another day, another Nimi lost

>>105453655
You're replying to the shipschizo

>>105453655
do you want them to do a baerys

>>105453573
No it's on site only

Imagine needing bots just to try toppling the goddess Nimi
yucks

>>105453683
baeRyS died when crats complained about their planned valentines collab
we got caraoke instead thank god

>>105453683
Yes

>>105453697
Like clockwork

>>105453697
Imagine white knighting someone else's wife

>>105453739
>>105453744
holocucks coping hard

Why did Doob hungout with Doki??

>>105453763
Why wouldn't the Avengers hang out?

>>105453763
To cuck Saba.

>>105453802
what are they avenging?

>>105453818
What are the Marvel Avengers avenging?

>>105453802
Thank Nimi it's DOA, never liked Dookie and Mintleech

>>105453802
>Doob and Nimi didn't show up for Nimi's birthday and haven't collabed in months

>>105453818
They are avenging the way jp vtuber black companies exploited and mistreated them

why does he look like what I thought an iofi fan would look like?

>>105453839
saba is busy prepping for her sololive and album release
dooby is dooby

>>105453873
>sololive
>album
there isn't a single cover song on her channel bruh

>>105453885
she needs originals for a sololive dumbass

>>105453885
Coverslop is for corpo grifters, Saba wants to make something special of her own

>>105453918
>Feat G.E.M
Biboo mindshare?

>>105453889
>>105453899
how long would it take? a year for 1 ori?

>>105453939
You can't rush perfection

indie avengers shitpost has to be the most forced thing in existence, only a phasecuck could conceive of it
Not saying that it's impossible that saba collabs with mint or doki at some point, but believing that she'll have some sort of real relationship with them has always been ridiculous

>>105453918
oh it's out? fucking NA got shitcanned cos a EUnigger talked about periods lmao

>>105453899
Dooby is corpo?
https://youtu.be/XEz0khXqsX8

>>105453868
looks like a decent hardworking man

su's voice kinda feels out of place on flowglow originals/covers

>>105453995
>3 months
>80k views
Small corpo maybe

>>105454000
I just hate that they auto tune the shit out of her voice

why is holoctober drawings not as fun as previous years?

>>105453962
ngl collab is a debuff for saba/gura

>>105454047
The best artists are dropping hololive

https://x.com/Xross_Stars/status/1977660581088735704
Reminder that this new set releases on the same date as the new holoOCG set

>>105453334
to be fair saba overlapped her which we all know absolutely rapes her numbers, the only reason she even got 7k was because of saba ending and funneling

>>105454069
This thing is popular?

>>105454047
hololive is a dying fad

>>105454071
>the only reason she even got 7k was because of saba ending and funneling
Exactly, so by the end of her stream she had a peak prime time slot to herself and a Saba funnel on top of that and she still couldn't peak above 7k in the absolute best conditions possible

>>105454082
it has better art than the holoOCG one

>>105454110
I'm retarded but what does OCG stand for?

>>105453839
>Doob and Nimi didn't show up for Nimi's birthday
wtf nimi hates nimi?

>>105454110
The sad part is you're right, there is so much mediocre art in the holo OCG for some reason. I was hyped for the Marine deck when that set first released but the oshi card has such mid art for some reason, it really pissed me off. All the cards I've seen from the VSPO game look great.

>>105453163
her mind works differently and can imagine more stuff like the kid in the little prince. shes basically has high functioning autism

>>105454047
iofi didn't make the list this year

>>105454110
Okay, but that's not my question. Is it popular?

>>105454113
Google it

>>105454128
if cc has high function autism then what does mococo have

>>105454082
The cards have value on the secondary market but their first big event is in November

>>105454113
Official card game

>>105454137
organised crime group . . .

>>105454138
Low functioning autism, duh

>>105454082
No not reallyb

>>105454142
forgot pic

>oh golly gee, dramafags used my intentionally vague vaguepost to breed rrats, whoever could have seen this coming - certainly not me, the industry veteran who knows exactly how these people behave!
does devilcube really...

>>105454134
this thread doesn't really know, if you want real answers then ask in /jp/

>>105454169
why are you vague posting bro?

>>105454069
Like seriously compare this art to the Marine oshi card. I don't know shit about the VSPO game but that card says Leader on it so I assume it's similar to the oshi cards in the holo game. The VSPO looks great while being striking and original, the Marine one looks like something out of one of those merch runs where one guy draws acrylic stands of 30 talents, and this is the most important card for one of the top holo talents. Couldn't they get some kino original Akasa Ai art or something?

>>105454166
Highest rarity cards from the latest holoOCG set for comparison

>>105454194
it looks like AI too, I'm guessing cover expects people to buy this slop just because its their oshi

>>105454239
It doesn't look like AI you retarded faggot it's just mid

>>105454239
It's not AI. I've seen some artists with that particular style. Yeah it isn't very good

>>105453440
look at this dude

>>105454265
I don't get it, that's a positive post about hololive? What's supposed to be embarrassing about posting that?

>>105454239
AI would draw it better

>>105454128
https://twitter.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1977594861131010070
Vindicated

>>105453186
the 2nd hand embarrassment..

>>105453947
I would normally say yes, but she has to have had a good deal of time to think about things. You've got connections, the cash, and a head start to just think for months. Its less someone rushing em out and more like a "you're probably stressing and thinking too hard". There comes a time where you can have all the time in the world, but if you're hung up on it being perfect, nothing gets done. Its why structure is a good thing depending on the person, because they don't get things done due hanging themselves by the hell of a million choices and the inability to choose. Choice paralysis and getting hung up on expectations is a death knell combo. Because even freedom can feel like a chain with those.

The pokemon arc starts in 2 days

Suisei radiates shill energy.

>>105453889
>>105454325
She will reveal her new OGs at her solo live

>>105454353
you know how pain in the ass pokemon perms are

>>105454194
>cover usually use shit art and cover drones lap it up anyways
>cover uses shit art again and cover drones still lap it up
why should they change, this is business 101, the one that controls like 70+% of the market (young men) grows fat and lazy because they have no competition and just want more and more profit

>gozaru only has some ENs and choco for curry
Thats kinda of sad isnt it...gozaru...

>>105454394
Do any of the smaller platforms have some neat vtubers?

>>105454425
Yea some holos stream on twitch occasionally

>>105454393
They fixed the pokemon perms issue half a year ago. They can play basically anything Nintendo day 1 now. Su and Biboo already have it on their schedules the day the game drops.

>>105454415
>Ina is there again
She's got a thing for blondes huh..

>>105454434
I meant kick and smaller.

i want sololive

>>105454425
Kick just has the culture war chuubas

>>105454440
>again
she was at iroha's before?

>>105454446
What does that mean?

>>105454424
Are there any ENs not currently in Japan?

>>105454445
Say no more Miko, the next sololive is yours. Anything else?

https://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_s
https://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_s
https://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_s

>>105454457
Kronii, Shiori, ERB, CC, GG

Iroha and bae both watch the same homo. If only i can turn back time and keep chloe and graduate iroha.

>>105454455
DEMOCRATS BAD
WOMAN BAD
MUSLIMS OUT
BROWNIES OUT
AMERICA NEEDS TO BE 100% WASP (with the exception of me your based asian/hispanic culture war chuuba)

https://youtu.be/F1PRA4IBP8c
kobo would've been perfect if she didn't do the homo collabs.
She's like the ID ver of gura but she actually releases originals and covers. She even writes her own lyrics

>>105454357
You always want to just out out the originals, slowly but surely, setup the tracklist. A live is fine down the road, you can get by with karaokes or covers while sprinkling one original omce in a bit until the library is full enough. Trying to throw the live out and then the songs all at once doesn't give people time to digest it and has a good chance of the album not doing so hot, whatever popularity you have. I guess you can say you're making an album for the live for sale and it might do well based on immediate popularity because hey, people want to support you. But if you're an artist proud of your work, you want people to enjoy it, not just think, "oh, this person released something, I'll buy it" without thinking. Its why you can have artists who rack up record sales but if something ain't popping where people are making fanvids or tiktoks of it, its not satisfying. Probably why so many do the shorts not just to hit the algo, but because they want to feel people are enjoying it.

>>105454393
Saba cuck...

>>105454481
So I guess there are no JP chuubas on the smaller ones?

what reason could they have to be at iroha's place? are they gonna go to a rave afterwards?

>>105454479
Who?

>>105454482
She's a brat please understand

Catching up on MtG drama and it's incredible how it's just like the gacha drama and just like the HOLOSTARS drama. I'm starting to see that there is one globalized drama with all the same people kicking and screaming on each side. One one side are the slopeaters and people of gender, on the other are the hateful incels who actually like their hobbies. It's not the larger scale culture war because it's not really about the genders, it's about the slop. It's something else. Something retarded.

>>105454482
Those Altare collabs probably cost Cover six to seven figures in revenue

>>105454505
>retarded convoluted overly detailed food analogy that is effectively just a description of the mtg situation with the words crossover set replaced with slop and non crossover set replaced with human food
Yep, it's autism

>>105454505
this is why reading is the best hobby, close to zero culture war*, just read what you like
*the only culture war that exists is retards that write bad fantasy that complain about men not winning prizes which would hold a bit more water if they werent bad slop writers that also read slop

How do VSPO have such a diehard fanbase when they don't farm gachi as much as Hololive?

>>105454505
What the fuck is blud on

>>105454535
Everywhere it's the same thing
>You asked me to care about this, and now you're changing it to something I don't like
>What do you mean you "don't care"
>It's for someone else now?
>Fuck you!
>...
>OMG oldfags are so toxic, they bully the wholesome unity fans, we need to push them out of the community

>>105454472
>Bae's Boku
Bae is trans?

>>105454498
Orange JP homo

>>105454555
quintuple retard

>>105454555
just austrarian
actually how does haato refer to herself?

>>105453966
to be clear, its because said euro was the best player of NA and thus its face, so when he talked shit about periods the entire NA scene had to be deleted LMAO

>>105454562
Iroha watches Roberu?

>>105454562
Iroha watches Kiara?

>>105454573
I don't see a single mention on tower or the archive so I assume we have another homosexual filipino man sharing his fantasies ITT

>>105454505
2nd point is us with the current hololive

>>105454581
>all shitters except mori
Who is a brapper

>>105454481
That is just an unironic pickme. Though, lets be honest, those are being brought to heel because they're finding out rather quick it ain't worth that degradation for the short term payout. Like that that one dude who ran a burger place themed after a certain public official and got deported. I guess I can understand vtubers who fall in line more easily, since for more "nerdy" hobbies some people feel the best way to avoid pain or ridicule is to follow the path of least resistance, i.e "be the nerd who makes fun of nerds". But that seems more like standard indie practice.

When an indie like Saba or Nimi sells merch, how much do they make? Like how is the profit split? So using Nimi as an example for that was recent, lets say each jacket was $100 and she sold 1000 of them, that's $100K. Assuming the split is 50%, then retards will say she instantly made $50K, but in reality it's a lot less than that, isn't it? Surely they're splitting the profit margin. So if the manufacturing and shipping costs $50, that means for each jacket sold, you're making $50 profit, and Nimi would get $25 of that of each jacket, excluding taxes. Am I being retarded and missing something?

>>105454581
You take that back, Su is an excellent hire

>>105454554
MtGfags were okay with the gay sex cards for decades though, these complaints are because they're making crossover sets with Final Fantasy and Marvel now and the people who supported the gay dads kissing card think that cheapens the iconic AI generated generic fantasy slop identity of MtG

>>105454595
no anon, that was when the
>mainstream audience
were going to watch the holostars and expand the box to new fans

>>105454594
Anon she sent him a superchat before

>>105454602
>Am I being retarded and missing something?
yes
>if the manufacturing and shipping costs $50
more like it costs 10 bucks for each jacket

>>105454618
Source?

>>105454618
I'm sure she did, Juan. Look out little buddy I think your pot of cow shit is boiling over in the kitchen.

>>105454626
>more like it costs 10 bucks for each jacket
I don't think those jackets are made by SEA children, Nimi would probably go with a company with ethics.

>>105454640
All clothing in the world is made by sea children or african kids

>>105454618
Anon talents can't superchat each other because that would be money laundering

>>105454602
For indies you can't really tell. It depends on how much they do on their own, and on the contract if they decide to outsource something. I would assume Nimi gets at least 50%.

>hajime come sit on my lap
Wtf ina is an oji-san?

>>105454505
What MTG drama?

DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>105453763
I’m pretty sure shes had more Doki collabs than Saba or Nimi though she’s done more with Henya than any of them

>Fauna is gone
>Full gen promise song production skyrockets
I'm noticing

>>105454681
Katy Perry ass song it's kino

>>105454194
Nobody is ever going to care about your Brave group slop faggot call me in 2 years when Brave has gone bankrupt and sold VSPO to the Saudis

>>105454239
illustrator is on the card….

>Mori asks for a favor
>Hololive responds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zHmwhyiX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE48pAmkC0M

Chammers is here too

Pebbles look like this??

>>105454482
I mean, there is more to it, like how its pretty transparent that she wants that diva lifestyle, asking for fans of other talents to join your membership (not subscribe to your channel, join your membership), means people can see you love the taste of those greenbacks flowing and want that bag quick. Doesn't help she was one of the last to get that meteoric push at the start from basically nothing. She's talented no doubt though, despite the clear odd decisions.

>>105454728
>Ilust: NOMISAKI
instead of
>Ilust: ChatGPT
At least we know who was the prompt engineer lmao

>>105454640
Well yeah Bangladesh and Pakistan are the go to sweatshop sites not SEA

Suisei’s playing tamagotchi still

>>105454640
It's ethical to make sure those children have money to not starve

>>105454656
Between the manufacturing costs and the profit split, I'll be very surprised if she gets more than 25% of the base price you pay

>>105454737
Only fempebbles
Male pebbles look like aztec god of fitness

>>105454737
Damn. When's the next pebblephile meet up?

Chilly today. Good day for streams

Twap
https://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4
https://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4
https://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4

>>105454703
I just think at this point in time they just figured stuff out. Its not like they didn't have group songs, they just don't come out the same clip as say, Advent, who has three more songs in a series coming. Plus, we had the group musical of all 5 last year, as well as many all EN songs the past couple years.

>>105454818
I meant at least 50% of the profits.

Wait are they all physically there

>>105454581
Ina gets better viewership than Mori

>>105454860
No they are astral projecting you dumb fuck

>>105454866
You know telephones are a thing now right

>>105454737
Dang girl, can you show your boobs next

>>105454860
Yea iroha left an open orgy invite

>>105454737
Bijou has female fans? I thought all her watchers were lolicons.

>>105454820
The male Pebbles should be rizzing them up then. Didn't that prime femPebble get married to a Ruffian?

Is this what an orgy looks like?

>>105454872
WHAT? I bet a shiny quarter on how Graham Bell trinket would be a flop!

>>105454737
There's some really hot femgrems

>>105454732
>>105442427

>>105454872
NTA, but did you expect Iroha to eat curry alone while waiting for calls after she invited Holo members for curry? She might as well just make it a totsu and leave the curry out then

>W-WAIT, WHAT!?
1) Angry Birds have a fandom?
2) What the fuck is going in with it?

I like this art

>>105454707
And I was complaining about the Neymar token in yugioh, now I know it could be worse

>>105442427
>paid
It's literally just Cover mass producing shorts to drum up interest, they do it all the fucking time for new song releases that have "TikTok compatible" sections.
None of the Holos are dancing there, it's just Cover having the motion data and applying it to their models.

THEY ARE FEEDING SU LIVE

>>105454912
The pink bird probably announced her marriage.

>>105454732
EN members who don't participate in this either aren't considered Mori's true friends, or are considered shitters not worthy of an invite by Mori, right?

>>105454901
>Mori is rich enough to pay nearly entire HoloEN, HoloID and some top HoloJP
holy shit, she's gonna be on the next Forbes cover

>>105454555
tomboy

That's a lot of guests on Iroha stream, she must've paid fortune for their appearance fees

>>105454959
Hololive members can be bought by food, curry in this case

>>105453862
>girls were literal who 3 view tier before joining holo
>council and myth have made millions
>according to selen herself she made over 200k annually in niji but wasted it all on projects that had zero ROI, so she decided to sudoku herself
>le evil corpos are bad somehow

>>105454897
I've met some of them in AFO and AnimeExpo, and I swear 60% of them are lesbians including the heely girl what the fuck

>>105454925
While I'm not thinking she's paying out people, what proof is there that this wasn't just people wanting to do it with her and/or asking as friends? Kiara does it all the time.

>>105454959
She's gonna pay them all with her body after the stream. Or during it if we're lucky

>>105454602
Each Jacket cost $10-$15 to make. So the company pays the $10 to get the jacket made at the printing press/factory, then they ask Nimi for $30, thus the store company makes $20 in profit for each shirt made. Nimi then charges the costumer $100 for the jacket. So out of the $100, $30 goes to the merch company. Nimi keeps $70

>>105454618
Flip like you talk a lot but never show any receipts

>>105454985
Reminder that Pekora has lost almost 50k USD during her horse racing gamble streams this year (so far) and it barely even fazed her.

>>105454994
She probably just dropped a preview shorts on Holo Discord and asked if anyone want to participate with their models. Doubt she is paying any at all.

>>105454935
No she's gonna go broke.

Of course top streamers make real good cash. Even a runt like Raora isnt going to be struggling now. Mori's buying a house in Japan of all places

>>105455026
that's only cause of those fucking sellout fees after her second live...

>>105453174 (OP)
That's an amazing prostitute-coded Suisei, fantastic.

>>105453802
kino
united against black corpos

>>105455067
tldr?

>>105455067
>0 vidéo about Clara yab
Oh It's another Fishman cocksucker

>>105455102
>Having empathy is a yab now

Fuwamoco ended so what now?

>>105454925
This right here, none of the Holomen in the shorts actually recorded themselves dancing to that. Cover just made the shorts the same way they do other random short animations. And then told the respective talents to upload the short on their channel. But I'm sure Mori had to pay the holomen something to make them upload those shorts.

>>105455112
>Empathy in question

>>105454069
Let's face it, holoOCG will be mogged and there's nothing we can do about it.

>>105455040
Well, the only problem I think with building a house in Japan is how volatile the land is. High chance for disastrous tsunami depending on location or disastrous earthquake makes not a good place to try setting down roots with that investment. Like trying to now build a house in Florida.

>>105455138
When will this stupid corp die. Almost as bad as Wactor with how much drama it has

>>105454732
https://youtu.be/ywgzfy98PI8
Is Bae the only one who isn't MMD?

>>105455136
>What does holostars collabing with popular production girls because they make a lot of unhinged content despite pissing off unicorns have to do with MtG

>>105455182
She didn't even make fun of him is the funny part. On the Instagram she made, she said he shouldn't have died but his rhetoric was harmful. This caused them to have a meltdown. They're calling her a horrible person when she tries to communicate lmao. I thought she laughed at Kirk's death or some shit

>>105455159
Anon, tons of people / family have been settling down in Florida and Japan for decades or even hundred of years without any issues. It's not *that* disastrous

>>105455182
i'm not gonna lie, Clara was at fault too, while the others phase girls pandered to their fanbase she just called them pickmewhores in her priv acc

>>105455164
You cannot kill that which is already dead. What you seen has been necromancy.

>>105455212
survivorship bias anon, the dead won't tell you about their issues

>>105455182
They already got exposed for being snowflakes with them trying to cancel Jimmy Kimmel. They also tried it on a smaller scale last year when they tried to cancel Destiny over him making fun of Trump's assassination thing.

>>105455182
No one has any principles or beliefs. When I was growing up libs were the irreverent free speech advocates shocking the squares by attacking their sacred cows while conservative christians tried to cancel them. Then the rebellious kids got real jobs in media, government and academia and started enforcing their worldview, so chuds became the insurgent branch of American politics THEY were the ones in favor of free speech and opposed to surveillance. Then they couped the libs and replaced them and we're currently seeing the positions invert again. This time libs like guns and conservatives are deeply sensitive to problematic jokes, which are literally violence.

>>105455096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbBi1FOmn2A

>>105455168
That guy sure went to a lot of effort to "prove" something that's immediately obvious to everyone and has been done countless times prior to this.

>>105455191
>holostars collabing with popular production girls because they make a lot of unhinged content
What the fuck does this even mean you schizo
The Magic crossovers exist because they are genuinely popular, Magic was in a bit of a rut because no one actually played their game other than a small circuit of psychopathic pros at the top level and a handful of polycules in Seattle running EDH locals, then they figured out that if they put popular IPs on their cards instead of black trans sorceresses people would actually start buying their product again. The homos are just failed and unpopular in every way and when they are shoved into holo content it's because a handful of troons in management don't want their pet project to die. These two situations have nothing to do with each other.

>>105455224
Damn she didn't have to say the truth so hard

>>105455138
Is the fishfag subsidizing all the talents costs? I cant imagine any of them are earning their wage through merch sales/SC/members.

>Ollie birthday 3d live
What is the expectation there?

>>105455275
Dancing. Ollie cringe. And some nice funny moments

>>105455275
How many homos on this?

>>105455254
that's like calling holos pickmewhores for not collabing with the homos

>>105455253
Nta, but if this is true
> they figured out that if they put popular IPs on their cards instead of black trans sorceresses people would actually start buying their product again
Then why did they make Aragorn black?

>>105455292
R

>>105455112
Selective empathy. Bought and paid for empathy.

>>105455274
*The cross over*
*demographic*
Sorry about that

>>105455274
No, Magic's cross overs are literally the same as Holo x (insert Game) crossovers. Except they go the full way and actually put the (insert game) characters into their card game while game companies don't actually put the Hologirls in their games, with a few exceptions.

>>105455286
>>105455287
Meant numberswise, I don't know what she usually gets

>>105455305
All empathy is selective tard, if you had empathy for every little rock in universe you would be emotionally dead in matter of seconds.

>>105455253
Yeah like Assassin's creed right?
They thought adding a homo crossover to the hololive universe would bring in new fans. It flopped because they weren't meta and fans who bought homo packs found themselves unable to play with hololive purists. They tried altering the meta to force adoption but players boycotted instead. The discourse in the community perfectly mirrors what happened here, because it turns out the people involved have been rehearsing these arguments in other captive fanbases. Homobegging is just asking Cover to buff holostars/nerf hololive so that incelchuds will be forced to play with them.

>>105455287
1

>>105455299
The Lord of the Rings set was being worked on way back in like 2020/2021 back when most everyone was super Woke Pilled.

>>105455287
Kanata is there, so 0

>>105455299
Because the people behind the crossover sets are still the same ones who made the black trans sorceresses and their ideology hasn't changed, it's just that the popular IP effect can be strong enough to drive sales despite the forced peg legged hijabi lesbian representation while the MtG IP isn't.

>>105455015
She's down 2 mil yen in her whole gambling carrer not 50 fucking thousands in one

sex with korone

>>105455335
Woke didn't exist untll 2018
Then it was basically non-existent until 2020
In 2022 no one knew what woke meant
And now it's just a scapegoat
You can't call everything you dislike woke

>>105455010
Why the fuck would they let a woman set the price?

>>105455275
Higher numbers than Nimi's and taking today's cripple gold from Saba

>>105455346
That Rio homo is already there

>>105455314
They pushed homocollabs to acquire an audience that wouldn't ordinarily watch at the cost of alienating existing fans. They absolutely were trying to replace those existing fans with a different demographic, one that would also support holostars--or they thought those fans were too invested to leave, like magic players. Either way they were trying to drive homo fans to holo channels, because they thought that was their new growth sector.

>>105455371
I think it's funny they used DEI as a campaign issue and then you see the pros they picked to lead important us agencies. The FBI dude literally wrote a trump dickriding book, that's just pathetic man

>decided to check out this freo dude because i heard he's homophobic
>he sounds like a faggot
What

>>105455322
>They thought adding a homo crossover to the hololive universe would bring in new fans.
No, they might have originally thought that the homo branch in general would be able to attract new fans when they created it 6 years ago or whatever, but the "forced" mixed collabs that are the actual problem have always been a case of trying to save the failing homo branch because (from their perspective) it's not good for a Cover project to fail so publicly once they've committed to it and not a case of trying to attract a new audience to hololive.

>>105455371
WHAT

>>105455371
Woke started in 2015 technically when people where crying about The Force Awakens and star Wars having a female lead. But it was very minor. Then in 2019 when Captain Marvel was hitting theaters, the anti-woke campaigns started to ramp up. Then in 2020/2021 that's when JK Rowling and Dave Chappelle started their ani-trans arcs, which got the "wokes" fired up as well. And now the anti-woke vs the "wokes" war is still raging on.

>>105455390
>They absolutely were trying to replace those existing fans with a different demographic
Source?

>>105455430(me)
also that 'Stay Woke" phrase was coined by Kanye West. Which is funny as fuck, cause he's anti-woke now.

cute ID mumei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nb1Rp58Odg

>>105455168
Bae probably. Not sure what the issue though, this is not uncommon to use MMD for these dance shorts. Not all of them have the time to record their own dance.

>>105455322
>Homobegging is just asking Cover to buff holostars/nerf hololive so that incelchuds will be forced to play with them
well put. in general I'd also peg it as

>so that incelchuds will get mad because the point of the homobegging was never ever legitimate interest in them but just trying to annoy Hololive fans through a deniably sophistry mechanism of trying to trick Cover into thinking it's actually really desired, aka 'popular demand'

>>105455305
Actually looking at it what a weird fucking dramachannel with curiously 0 phase at all

>>105455443
Do you think the grim era was intended to sustain existing hololive fans and bring more in? Can you explain a little? Maybe you think ignoring EN for two years while spamming homos and forcing them on the audience was fanservice to build consumer loyalty? I'm really interested to hear your thinking.

I like it when my oishi is fat

forsenInsane

>>105455314
Anon tempus itself was a rushed response to luxiem which at the time was building a monopoly on the female audience fast

>>105455452
Nah no issue. Just suprised she took the time to mocap the dance herself. Wonder if Hajime posted one will she use MMD or use mocap.

They made the male branch and did male collabs because the "mainstream" streamers are mostly male so logic implied the vtuber that will enter the normalfag mindshare would be more likely to be a dude, just see how they rushed HomostarsEN when Luxiem started pulling the big bucks

Cringe samefag

>>105455309
It's still an attempt to broaden the costumer base

>>105455245
Things have been pretty consistent, the drug war ended up being a sham, guns were already illegally traded in gun shows which is why the disingenuous rhetoric of the right about cartels in other countries being armed to the teeth is so funny. Have to get the product somewhere, and its not from left leaning sources. Thats one fallacy amongst many. Crime is another thing, where immigrants were used and demonized like most minorites were, but when sweeping idiotic measures were taken, they cripple various industries. If anything, the right has become that much more snowflake like over time. The fact morons actually laid out they've setup for decades, playbook on how to pretty much cripple the government from the inside out to a hollow shell to then say, "yeah the left did this" when it falls out from under them will be the funniest thing ever. We've got bribery and mafia like trades running in the government like its a regular Monday morning.

>>105455314
Not exactly the female audience. I think they're going after the “general audience”. They saw Niji’s success at the time with a mixed branch and decided to go all in on the homo agenda

>>105455445
Zeta got millions subs? That's incredible, is there any clip of Axel congratulating her?

>>105455469
Do you think the grim era was deliberately orchestrated to enact a Great Replacement of hololive fans with evil nijisisters and not just incompetent management diverting resources from their already successful and established branch to try and build up a homo branch?

>>105455549
I do think that yes

>>105455526
*zaps you*

Weirdo got plapped by jannies

>>105455573
And of course when things don't go his way rightoid resorts to aggression.

>>105455523
I mean everything they do is an attempt to broaden their audiences. Them focusing more on commander in the first place was an attempt to broaden their reach to casual mtg players, them starting to do alternate art cards was an attempt to bring in the pokemon collectors who collect fancy art cards. And UB is an attempt to get people who aren't into Magic, to get into Magic.

>>105455590
I was mainly just curious about what kinda poltard you were

/#/ - politics and business general

>>105455619
Nothing if off topic in the /#/ thread

kek subaru pushed korone to win

>>105455532
>>105455493
My point is that they have never tried to change hololive's audience. They started hololive and it became successful with a certain type of audience. Then they started looking for other projects they could do and they thought that an all male hololive counterpart could do well and attract a different audience for themselves. Then they tried that and it didn't work so they now had a failing project on their hands and they started trying to save it because failing projects aren't good. And an obvious way (misguided as it may have been) to try and save the terminally unpopular homo project was to get the large existing holo fanbase to watch the homos too, which is what drove the push for mixed collabs. It was never about replacing holo fans, it was just the only way they could find to try and prop up the homos once it became clear that they weren't going to succeed on their own. Yes, the goal of the homos was to get an audience of their own, obviously, but that was not related to the collabs.

>>105455619
And holostars 24/7

https://youtu.be/Iv6mKLWtLWI
Why is Nene so unlucky with managers? Also looks like Lamy is getting someone fired.

>>105455625
homo are

>>105455650
Oops wrong frame

>>105455642
>My point is that they have never tried to change hololive's audience
Bro they tried to weed out everyone who complained about homocollabs until they realized how many people were complaining

>>105455469
They started the Homo program to get new audiences, not to replace the EN audience. The EN audience was gonna be there no matter what, as long as their favorite EN talent was there of course. And nobody really knew how the fanbase was gonna react to the new Homo branch, Yagoo was probably hoping they'd catch surprise fire just like the first EN wave did. But that didn't happen.

>>105455667
Source?

>>105455650
Well Ririka has the same problem, not sure if it's just luck

>>105455677
Did you forget the shitshow 2022 was already?

>>105455642
>YES Cover has repeatedly invested in content directly opposed to their audience's taste
>YES Cover has prioritized growth markets over fan satisfaction
>YES Cover tried forcing total unity which would kill the unicorns
>YES every new project since 2020 has centered around holostars
>but they would NEVER EVER EVER try to replace their fans with a different audience

>>105455698
When did they try to weed out everyone who complained and how?

>>105455642
>and they thought that an all male hololive counterpart could do well and attract a different audience for themselves.
>Then they tried that and it didn't work so they now had a failing project on their hands and they started trying to save it
I disagree and would agree if you were talking about ReGloss.
Everything about Tempus from day one was trying to market them to the girls (predominantly male) audience using all of the girls means of communication (Twitter accounts, Reddit Forums) under the misguided belief that because the JP homos were tolerated, if they pushed the EN homos a little bit more effusively the girls audience would accept them as "male Hololive".
It failed miserably but that was the idea from day one and it was all the brainchild of that genius
>pic related

no amount of Hololive shilling will make Japan care about sonic

>>105455704
>j-just one more timeloop about the death of hololive on /#/ and phase connect will win for sure!!

>>105455698
The Kronii statement

>>105455727
The Kronii statement, regardless of everything that has happened since then, was sadly a result of Kronii's own retardation.

Nice thread

>>105453195
Luv Kiara
'Ate Mint
Simple as

>>105455708
Do we really have to go through this timeloop again?
Would you agree that what Shiori did early this year was an attempt to weed out certain fans? If yes then the same happened in 2022

>>105453174 (OP)
Recent Clip Numbers
>>105388061
>>105388073
>>105388092

Leech Harder Niji Whore

>>105455778
Only homosexuals don't like Mint, because Minto cuteo.

>>105453174 (OP)
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>33,396: Miko (Hololive)
>29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>29,099: Koyori (Hololive)
>27,418: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>26,443: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,831: Iroha (Hololive)
>25,243: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>21,550: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,532: Ririka (Hololive)
>21,018: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,734: Toya (Nijisanji)
>20,474: Lamy (Hololive)
>17,982: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>15,137: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>15,045: Choco (Hololive)
>14,959: Hinano (VSPO)
>14,393: Bijou (Hololive)
>14,378: Met (VSPO)
>14,348: Botan (Hololive)
>12,880: Rou (Nijisanji)
>12,818: Mio (Hololive)
>12,673: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,580: Ars (Nijisanji)
>12,245: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,842: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,632: Aki (Hololive)
>10,554: Ririca (Indie)

>>105455549
Considering everything that they did, yes i do think so

>>105455667
>Bro they tried to weed out everyone who complained about homocollabs
>>105455677
>Source?
This could easily have that wojak with "citation needed" hat on top.
>>105455708
>When did they try to weed out everyone who complained and how?
I mentioned this contemporarily (pic related) and the short summary is that a segment of the audience AND parts of the public facing staff (
>T-Chan, in particular
created a very asymmetric situation where it was permissible to hold the following opinion
>I would prefer that the girls would collab more with the Holostars
but not permissible to hold the opposition opinion
>I would prefer that the girls would NOT collab with the Holostars
Notice that this is just a matter of preference and that was the only "forbidden" preference. One could easily say "I would prefer the girls to play more APEX / I would prefer the girls not to play APEX at all" and there would be no pushback in either case.
It culminated with T-Chan locking the *** Hololive *** reddit during Ame's birthday specifically so people wouldn't complain about the debut of another homo gen when the GRIM era was in full effect and Kiara was even streaming while sick to avoid create a bigger gap in the schedule of streams.


I understand that sometimes the idea of asking these questions is to try to poke holes in the answer and discredit the whole thing and pretend it didn't happen but, for most people here, they remember it as you have just been told.

Everyone shut up. Ollie on the telly

>>105455761
Kronii's and Mori's drama were a result of not being familiar enough with how things were in reality plus omegatranny trying to change holoEN's direction played a huge role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylg
Ollie is live btw, I am watching

We're all watching Ollie's 3D live here

>>105455808
OCT 2025 GOLD
>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream [18]
>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals [24]
>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51 [23]
>4) 49,837: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2 [25]
>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday [32]
>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3 [19]
>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8 [17]
>8) 52,995: Subaru (Hololive)
>9) 95,687: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive)
>11) 91,899: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12) 33,396: Miko (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
9x: hololive
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Subaru, Kuzuha
1x: Korone, Suisei, Fubuki, Marine, Pekora, Kuzuha, Luna

>>105455650
>manager is new
>thinks her job is to control talent's content
fucking retards...
towa would tell her to suck her cock immediately

grim

>>105455250
This is just women being women. Call me when a holo yab happens.

>>105455845
OCT 2025 SILVER
>1) 45,197: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2
>2) 30,541: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>3) 47,275: Koyori (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 BBQ
>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale
>5) 59,159: Ren Kisaragi (VSPO) VSPO pop quiz
>6) 28,030: Miko (hololive) Oshaberi king
>7) 28,578: Ririka (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 GENKAIJO HS Year 2
>8) 45,257: Miko (Hololive)
>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>10) 38,032: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11) 45,458: Miko (Hololive)
>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
7x: hololive
4x: nijisanji
1x: VSPO

4x: Miko
1x: Lauren, Koyori, Subaru, Ren Kisaragi, Ririka, Gwelu, Lauren

>>105455796
>Would you agree that what Shiori did early this year was an attempt to weed out certain fans?
No? She collabed with the homos because she wanted to, just like all of her other collabs. She talked about that during her debut and throughout her time in hololive she kept interacting with the homos on twitter and even randomly bringing them up on her own stream. She was already banning/blocking people who talked shit about the homos before she ever collabed with them. The small handful of homo collabs she has done this year were not a departure from anything she was doing before despite the shitposting and retarded culture wars here. She likely didn't collab with them directly earlier for the same reason why she hasn't done a "1 on 1" collab with FWMC yet despite all of Advent being close, she's just a weirdo with collabs.

>>105455825
>When they decided to shit on their fans for mainstream appeal
Eh, I don't think Hololive is at that point right now unless I'm watching Hololive wrong.
My relationship with my favourite girl and her usual collab partners (Okayu, GAMERS and the rest of the JP girls) changed very little in these five years and whatever change that happened I consider it an improvement (like Okayu getting her sololives).

10K DOOOOORRYYAAAA

>>105455857
OCT 2025 BRONZE
>1) 38,576: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN
>2) 29,494: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN #2
>3) 44,212: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 2
>4) 34,559: Subaru (hololive) Zatsudan
>5) 41,446: Miko (hololive) Horseracing
>6) 23,851: Gwelu (nijisanji) collab
>7) 26,180: Moka (VSPO) Street Fighter League: PRO-JP 2025
>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>9) 31,467: Hololive English (Hololive)
>10) 27,644: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12) 29,099: Koyori (Hololive)

> PER COMPANY
6x: nijisanji
4x: hololive
1x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
2x: Kanae
1x: Lauren, Marine, Subaru, Miko, Gwelu, Moka, Kuzuha, Hololive English, Koyori

>>105455549
It sure was both but I'd be lying if I said I didn't believe at the time it was only the former happening

the twilight fag gets spicy on his alts kek

>>105455501
Some guy has been shitting on the guest orpheus dance shorts here. That's where the assumption comes from.

>>105455720
It's actually insanse how niche Sonic is in Japan.
Holo Hanafuda Switch physical sales outsold this Sonic Racing games PS5+Switch lol

>>105455704
they weren't replacing the chud fans
Cover (correctly) believed the live fans to be captured, and thus would never leave. It allowed them to push the less successful male holo branch. Because fans won't leave
but the girls did

>>105455871
OCT 2025 HIGHLANDER
>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream
>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals
>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51
>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale [S]
>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday
>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3
>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8
>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive)
>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
9x: hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>>105453210
This art would cause discussion in the mentally ill shipping community since its inaccurate
>>105453470
I think its better this way
They being "careful" about the shipping material kinda "confirms" things and also gives the space for the fans to be freaks like GG wanted to

>>105455889
OCT 2025 holoID
>1) 3,054: Zeta (Clover Pits)
>2) 1,507: Reine (CloverPit)
>3) 7,990: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)
>4) 2,645: Iofi (Honkai Star Rail)
>5) 1,150: Risu (Whisper of the House)
>6) 6,616: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)
>7) 3,006: Reine (No Sleep For Kaname Date)
>8) 10,403: Ollie
>9) 2,825: Ollie
>10) 5,233: Risu
>11) 4,034: Kaela
>12) 4,561: Zeta

> PER STREAMER
3x: Kaela
2x: Reine, Ollie, Risu, Zeta
1x: Iofi

>>105455847
She would but Nene doesn't like talking about her problems to others.
https://youtu.be/KPbQLD0FB48

>>105455549
I'm with >>105455874, back then it truly looked like the EN management wanted to pull a switcheroo and trade their existing audience for a potentially bigger one.
Looking back it looks more like a heavy handed attempt to "have their cake and eat it too" coupled with a social media team that hated Hololive and only used it to try to prop their favourite ones, something that lasted unchanged until TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY FUCKING FUCK until Mori put her foot down

>>105455900
OCT 2025 Floor tally
>1) 10,480: Fuwa (nijisanji) nijiMUFG [18]
>2) 11,103: Ina (hololive) Inacademy: Drawing [24]
>3) 10,700: Nene (hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [23]
>4) 10,956: Kagami (nijisanji) Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket [25]
>5) 10,377: Cammy (nijisanji) Niji mahjong L league coach room [32]
>6) 11,019: Bae (hololive) Stellar Blade [19]
>7) 10,124: Luna (hololive) MonHun Wilds [17]
>8) 10,220: Koyori (Hololive)
>9) 10,070: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10) 10,129: Ina (Hololive)
>11) 10,169: Ars (Nijisanji)
>12) 10,554: Ririca (Indie)

> PER COMPANY
5x: nijisanji
6x: hololive
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
1x: Fuwa, Ina, Nene, Kagami, Cammy, Bae, Luna, Koyori, Ibrahim, Ina, Ars, Ririca

>They are having fun more with Soniku
Marioka bros...

>>105453174 (OP)
100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)
46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)
47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)
48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)
49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)
50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)
51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)
52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)
53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)

# of 100k streams last year: 58

grim numbers for a 3D and JP doesn’t give a fuck and streams over it lol

>>105455923
Its the better game

grim

>>105455938
its a doggy dog world out there

>>105455860
>She was already banning/blocking people who talked shit about the homos before she ever collabed with them.
So we agree she was weeding them out, same thing happened in 2022

Who is this cute girl with the deep voice

Unicorns, how we feeling so far?

Rio sounds nice

>CAN THIS PHYSIQUE BE ACHIEVED NATTY?
LOOK AT THAT INCLINE!

jwu
Koseki status?

>>105455936
Who is this cutie?

its a sonic game but it has minecraft?

i hate the constant dilating pupils of some of these vtubers

>>105455975
Symboli Rudolph

>>105453218
Or that meet n' greet where a chinese nijisister spent thousands to only 2 minutes with Luca and not even that she got

ENTER KANATAN

>>105455955
I love how that's all you got from that. Didn't even bother

>>105455982
>natty
lol

>+24 deleted
Holy

>>105455955
Shiori has a right to choose her own audience, and she has been doing it consistently since she debuted. What does that have to do with management's misguided push for unity?

>male (female) into girl (boy)
kino

>>105455886
I can't blame them, the hanafuda cards were top tier merch, maybe not as good as Mio's hoodie or dinogura but close.

Nintendo lost

>>105455996
doubt heimin actually care considering Ollie is a homocollaber

>>105455974
Thriving
3D live announcement this week

>>105455961
Kronii

Ollie should just make this her default outfit, because her actual default outfit is cheeks. Do a Kaela and get a new, better one.

>>105456018
you can play this on switch

>>105455619
nijiphaseggers and leftypol are the same paid people

>>105456029
Need a new outfit for this cunny

you guys actually watching the ollie thing

I'm not watching Ollie, I don't care if she has a full on Pekomiko segment.

>>105453218
Nah they are probably thinking of the meet-up events in Taiwan.
https://x.com/holomeetxTPE24/status/1880578501256024174

>Nimi birthday mogged by Ollie
The absolute state of Nimi

>>105456056
yeah, I like lives and it's high quality

>>105456029
>collabs (not on Bb channel) x 2
GRIM
>SHORT stream
GRIMMUS
>??? REVEAL
rrat?

>>105453744
Do you got the top right pic without the cuck dialogue?

is it a koro sonic collab?

>>105456056
Nyo

>>105455963
thriving

>>105455999
I'm just defining what weeding out fans looks like and at the time the same was happening, Shiori's case may have been over a prolonged period of time but is the same action

Korone Sonic song? i can't into japanese

>>105456067
>needs people like kanata in order to get these views
Lol

>>105456018
Lost because Sega paid Holo talents to play it while they bought a whole console and played Marika by themselves kek

>>105455720
They couldn't make Japan care about Silksong either.

>>105455886
in the 90s when sonic was actually a thing in the west, sega of america was a different team than sega of japan. they promoted different things and focused on different things.

also weirdly, consider that in the US and EU, the genesis sold about 30 million units.. in japan, about 3.5. it was actually not that popular in its own home country. comparatively the SNES sold 17 million units in Japan vs 23 million in the US. so the pool of nostalgic millennials for sonic is permanently almost 10x smaller in Japan than exists in the West just by virtue of the fact so few people there actually-played sonic vs mario.

>>105456005
What I'm saying is that Shiori's actions in the end push certain fans away from her core audience, holoEN's direction at that time encouraged that sort of actions

>>105456099
Sadly Nimi can't get anyone bigger than Mint to show up to her events anymore

>>105456121
They are enjoying this game much more thoughbeit

ENTER
KIARA

>Kiara
Time to get my rock hard dick out

>sad girl sex
who picked it

are they singing "sex girl, sex"

>>105456150
Mint's 3D is mogging Ollies, maybe it's just 3D shows are better than RPGs.

>>105455860
>She likely didn't collab with them directly earlier for the same reason why she hasn't done a "1 on 1" collab with FWMC yet
Because they can't figure out what they want to actually do, both have said this
People don't collab for the sake of collabing to check off a checklist

Who's botting pekora

>>105456145
>girl eats pineapple pizza
>pushes away certain fans away from her core audience

>>105456175
yes they do

>>105456145
Arguably every action you take pushes away a certain type of fan. IRyS saying she has no interest in homo collabs pushes away beggars, Kiara streaming 80 hour long story driven JRPGs while ignoring the story to chat about her friends' boyfriends pushes away most people, Mori saying nigger on twitter 10 years ago pushes away niggers, by that definition everyone is always weeding out some type of viewer to an extent that the expression becomes meaningless.

enter ex-nijinigger + ex-vshitshow cultist

>>105456179
KiYawnwa

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Amusing a fuck

>>105456175
>Because they can't figure out what they want to actually do
Well there you go, that's why she took two years to finally collab with Flayon

>Kiara shows up
>CCV GOES DOWN
Wow debuffwawa

>>105456215
All of these robots that showed up to her solo live

>>105456179
I rather watch a clip than watch Ollie's stream

>>105456090
Weeding out is when a streamer does a “my stream my rules” despite already having established expectations for their content, forcing their viewers to adjust to or leave. As you can see, Shiori has already established from her debut that homocollabs are not out of the picture. It was even memed here to make fun of beggars until it came true.

unicorn hiding from ollie
she's trying to steal his purity

>>105456099
What's stopping Nimi from inviting Saba?

>>105456243
That's just the entire Magic the Gathering argument being deleted for being off topic, some of those posts were mine and I didn't even get a warning

>>105456041
Wait, it didn't come out on switch 2 yet?

>>105456276
Saba

>>105456255
No, that's because it takes her a while to actually get to know people
She's close to advent out the gate because they had a 6 month on-boarding period, it took her MONTHS after that to bond with a girl outside of advent (Mori) and then slowly opening up to the others

>>105456290
not part of this argument but if she saw Jurard's debut and thought "I should invest months in getting to know this guy" then she's an absolute piece of shit. Cheers.

>>105456170
Stay in your lane mintnigger

>>105456257
Showed up in what?

>>105456289
Saba mentioned Nimi yesterday though

>>105456315
You don't want to play this game. You can't win.

Suisei continues to take Riona under her wing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-H-ZgqHoc

>>105456223
If you're a ligger that wants to get molested by a doll or something maybe lol

>>105456308
that's why she did the collab with iofi while she went 1 on 1 with the red tranny

OH NO NO NO NO NO , MIKO IS ALREADY LOSING VITALITY!
>THIS ONE DOES NOT SLIP TODAY!
SORRY MIKO, 40K IS FOR GROWN UPS!

>>105456344
they reallyneed to fix riona's face, IRyS style

>>105456339
>>105456257
All Ai

>>105456151
True. They must be planning a company wide tournament as we speak, like they do with Mario Kart. Okayu must be planning it, that's why she couldn't play with them today.

>>105456339
wasn't this a free event

>>105456361
Huh where's pekora

>>105456308
Your argument should be reversed, because his disastrous bullshit should be a red flag unless you actually know the faggot is just some boisterous eternal class clown syndrome flip faggot that should be pitied
If someone were to collab with him immediately with no prior contact, THAT should be a warning and eyebrow raiser (like a few indie homoslurpers do)

>>105456339
seethe holodrone

>>105456365
they will with her new outfit i beleeeeeeb

>>105456365
https://x.com/hololive_OCG/status/1977343498803147223

>>105456361
ALL HAIL KING KUZ KUZ!

>>105456361
>4k likes in 4h17m
>5,1k likes in 33minutes
HOW DOES HE DO IT

>>105456377
up your ass

Green Grifter mogged, we already knew she's an ID victim but now we know she's an ID-runt victim

>SABA LOST GOLD
>NIMI BIRTHDAY MOGGED
>NIMI GIGAMOGGED
TOTAL
HOLOLIVE
VICTORY

>>105456373
The one with pekoniji baseball collab is the free one. They literally gave free tickets because no one wanted to watch

>>105456386
kakkoii

How fucking lucky is Pekora?
>found a ruined portal with no crying obsidian to break and all missing obsidian in the chest with some to spare

>>105456365
She has too much hair which makes her face look tiny. Just thin it down a bit more.

>>105456378
My argument is meant to be hyperbolic because I don't think it's true. I don't think Shiori was talking with Jurard since debut. I don't think it took her two years to homocollab because she was shy.

>>105456400
faggot

MIKO DAILY 40K QUOTA GET

>>105456402
>birthday 3D live
Vs
>random dogshit horror game

>>105456400
as it turns out, "we have sabadoob at home" discount avengers aren't QUITE the buff that sabadoob would be!

>>105456400
>>105456402
KAIGAI TALLY CHADS; ASSEMBLE!

>>105456402
barely beating a normal D&D birthday stream with a full-fledged 3D live with JP guests is not an own

>>105456412
Why is she stealing Miko's idea

>>105456402
Holo ain't winning Gold anon, the King is back!

>>105456227
>>105456221
>Arguably every action you take pushes away a certain type of fan.
Sure, almost anything pushes some fans away but the issue is that there were changes in direction in 2022 and those changes clashed with a big part of the core audience and they kept pushing in that direction despite the complaints until there was a cear 20% drop in almost all metrics

>>105456419
>takes her fucking months to do anything with another girl
>clearly it's impossible it takes her long times to talk to males
I mean you can be a retarded nigger if you want to, it's the reality that she takes a long time to open up to people

>>105456400
>AAAHHHHH SAVE ME MINT-SAMA
Nimi said this

>>105456427
>>105456437
When indie avengerfags start posting excuses and cope to explain why they lost to FUCKING OlLLIE is when you realize how fucking grim things are for them

>>105456474
All you

>>105453111
>>105453163
there is a joke that Scandinavia is the dick and balls (Finland) of Europe so this shit is tame

>>105456474
Mint beat Ollie anon... Avengers still got bibot running away.

We need Ollie to raid a Biboo guerrilla.

>>105456455
Sure she's just a delicate flower who decided Jurard the holoanti would be her new bestie but was too shy owo to mention it
Or maybe the persona of her first year was her giving it a shot to see if she could make that route work, then when it didn't she decided to filter her audience.

Here is something amusing: out of all of the nijis currently at the tally, the one with the most likes is
>Salome
And adding their current likes together, it makes a total of
>13965
failing to beat Iroha current likes.

It's not wise to reply to schizo from 4 hours ago isn't it?

>>105456521
Holy shit nigger, you can set aside your fucking eternal butthurt about her talking to m*les and just accept she takes a while to know people, we get it, you're mad you got rugpulled because you HAD to dunk on paperbag memes (as if anyone needs help or an excuse to do that) and didn't listen when she talked about having male friends on multiple occasions
You can dislike who she talks to and also accept the reality that she takes months of talking to people to open up, they aren't mutually exclusive

>>105456501
>that part
hey, that looks like the head of a...

PEKO DONE GOOF'D!
>just kidding, sent the fireball just back at the ghast

>>105456437
>a normal D&D birthday stream
Ah yes the classic D&D birthday stream that everyone has spammed to death and has 0 buff factor

>>105456513
With participation from, and shilling by, holos I would certainly hope she'd have decent EN numbers

>>105454548
they have diehard fanbase?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzt6SmvGpXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzt6SmvGpXk

>>105456541
these AIslop unicorns are so fucking funny, part of me wants to start stalking and harassing Rider with these

>>105456583
oh boy here comes another worlds where it's asia vs asia again. Damn I wonder who they'll hype up korean twink #32 or chinese twink #94

>>105456576
she had Kiara on... who couldn't give Ollie's 3D live an extra 1k therefor she didn't do shit for Mint. Mint brought more viewers to Kiara's 3D show than Kiara brought to Mint's show.

>>105454548
They have a fanbase?

>>105456361
Miko already mogged tinboy kek also he's botting again trying to beat Miko right now hahahaha

>>105456412
Again, how fucking luck can a girl be?
>got a dried ghast trading with pigs for some 7 rolls

>>105456608
The holobox that'll watch ollie is already watching, of course a holo isn't going to buff a holo as much as some indie scaping holo attention is

I still remember when Biboo couldn't get a hat, but Ame got it immediately

>>105456608
Nobody gives a shit about ID, especially not Ollie. She could have had multiple JP first army and it might have broken 20K.

>>105456622
Pekora dream scandal when

So did the homos appear in ollie3d?

>>105456621
lmao obvious botting

I Won
Browns and Homosexuals Lost

Biboo so cute

>>105456554
I don't like that she talks to males, but I watch IDs. I care about who she's enabling and how she treated the fans who supported her up to that point. It was genuinely disgusting. Your scenario just isn't believable, no matter how much you seethe about it. Shiori didn't just whimsically decide to collab with Jurard one day, and she didn't jump in his DMs after he started griefing holofans and members unless she's a total piece of shit. It's just way more likely that something wasn't working for her and she decided to make a hard break. Jurard was convenient when Iofi offered a collab, she used him to filter her fans, and she didn't have the courage, honesty, or gratitude to address it with them .

>>105456666
The moment he noticed Miko got ahead he pushed the bot button kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUoj_Orj7LQ
Some new korean vtuber group. I prefer it to what en corpos do outside hololive

>>105456076
Original song

>>105456669
seethe holodrone

Biboo is top GFE

>>105456076
She's been doing recordings for a while so most likely a 3d live or original song.

>>105456608
It's Ollie man, she has a 0.2X debuff on everything she touches

>>105456710
kys enshart

Ollie's birthday limited set has an initial stock of 460/40

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1977720984418570724
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/kureijiollie_birthday_2025
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/kureijiollie_birthday_2025

>>105456669
Again, you can set aside your mental illness and seething rage at what I can't reliable call THE most pathetic flip because Rider exists to accept reality
You can't just say "REEEEEEEEEEE SHE TALKED TO HIM TO FILTER EVERYONE, SHE DOESN'T TAKE TIME TO TALK TO PEOPLE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE"
He's a pathetic fucking loser that acts like every other flip does (forcing themselves to be the "funniest," read: loudest person in the room) and has a retarded complex and thinks "well, if people get upset at me for things that's fine because it's marketing!" like your average sub-90 IQ retard in a marketing class that would be fit to work as Randy Pitchford's secretary
There is no master plan, there is no behind the scenes skullduggery to find a way to filter fans or choose people that (You) personally dislike
You just dislike the faggot and want to find excuses because you felt cucked by homo collabs, it's whatever, just say it how it is instead of jumping through thirty hoops in the mental gymnastic olympics about how everything she's said and everyone else has said about her is actually a lie because one flipfag makes you upset
Graduate the entire fucking homo branch btw, I'm not making excuses for his retardation and think he's a fucking net drain

>>105456738
>ring merch

>>105456736
>always think of Ollie
>always dream of Ollie
>always treasure Ollie
>even when you're drinking you think of Ollie
PARASOCIAL FUCK

How did Mori get so many holo to shill Orpheus

>>105456736
that's some low stock

I heard iron mouse concert is sold out

first bump: kiara
second bump: michi
third bump: solo segment
fourth bump (peak): solo segment / merch reveal

>>105456766
There's nothing wrong with ring merch, the problem with Rushia's was that it was explicitly "engagement ring" merch

>>105456779
Ollie was always unabashedly parasocial for her fanbase, considering the shit she says in members she'd probably let them run a train on her if it was in any way viable to organize it within Hololive

>>105456780
>@everyone with MMD data saying if you wanna make a short you can
>everyone does it because everyone is a deadbeat
>also shorts are a good boost to your algo, so it's pretty beneficial overall for everyone

>>105456780
she asked

>>105456780
She opened up the wallet.

>>105456787
I'm glad what happened to fandeads, I hope all the niggas with that level of parasocialism suffer the same

>>105456666
Kek

>>105456829
Never trust anything that outright says "GFE" on the tin and advertising

>>105456781
Looks quite big to me all things considered

>>105456829
i want to have sex with femfandeads

THEY UPPED NOEL'S VRCHAT BOOB PHYSICS EVEN MORE

>>105456827
I can imagine Peko salivating at Mori tossing 50 bucks her way after casually burning away 50000 on horseraces

Here is exhibit #735 for why "REAL MALE VTUBERS HAVE NEVER BEEN TRIED" is such a meme
>no living man can ever compete with the imagination and expectations of the current female media consumer
Amusingly enough, there were two that managed to secure that exact target audience and then, out of sheer stupidity, threw it all away

1) Connor. He used to voice a "black butler" (or something) character way before vtubers were a thing and got showered with this type of audience attention only to throw everything away because he was not getting enough money (back then) and the audience grossed him out
That is one of the things I assume he kicks himself forever and a day because had he transitioned it to a full blown live2D animated vtuber he could have made bank way before pretty much anyone in the English speaking market.
2) Vox. Down to a T for that description: rapey vampirey presumably wealthy. He secure some shekels from that exact audience then threw it all away because
1) he's too dumb to keep his beer belly, wrinkled and badly tucked shirt and corny belt out of his main account
2) he as well got grossed out by the behaviour of that audience

I don't think anyone can play that role straight and keep going for years, it might take a toll in a bloke's mind to have to endure that deranged audience.
I put it at the same level of unwitting furry illustrators, unless that is what rocks his boat anyone doing that will retire very early

>>105456780
>it's a good song
>it's exposure for them too so everyone wins

>>105456427
ID vs Saba

>>105456861
are her boobs comically bouncing?

>>105456829
Why? I wouldn't care one way or another but how people get their enjoyment eliciting this reaction from you is curious at least.

>>105456666
Kuzuha is like the pekora of niji in terms of botting

>>105456880
It's become almost eiken tier

>>105456787
Fair but that merch is pretty gfe themed
>always think of ollie no matter what
>hearts everywhere
If it were a holo who avoided male collabs I imagine there'd be quite an outburst about the ring

>>105456736
Less than a Homo kek

>>105456861 (me)
Also. Bloomers

>>105456741
Rather than trying amateur psychoanalysis, let's have a look at your argument
>>105455860
>Shiori takes a long time to get to know people, so it took her two years to homocollab
>>105456350
>but decided to jump into a collab with Jurard for absolutely no reason, where she immediately became friends and cued up a series of collabs because she's shy
>you see, he's a complete obnoxious low iq retard shit starter, so that's basically irresistable. To shy, childlike girls.
>she couldn't mention to this to her fans beforehand and needed to surprise them with it, then ban anyone who didn't like the surprise, because she's shy,
>also childlike and kindhearted
>also anyone who disagrees is a mentally ill seething nigger unicorn
hmm, well, it's a theory, have a great day

please dont sexual women or youre an incel

>>105456861
Holy fuark

ollie cute

Run Miko Run! The King is closing in!

>>105456780
She has big boobs so all holos would do anything for a chance to touch them

>>105456921
>Noel is an incel
no...

>>105456902
If she sell out that means she sold more than the faggot lmfao

Mogu mogu

>>105456902
>Less
???

>>105456871
>I don't think anyone can play that role straight and keep going for years,
It is possible, the reason why it looks like nobody is able to achieve that is because whoever is good and natural at doing that just won't become a vtuber, but exceptions to the rules exist therefore there will be one day that real male brotubers will be tried!!!

>>105456916
>>but decided to jump into a collab with Jurard for absolutely no reason, where she immediately became friends and cued up a series of collabs because she's shy
She has OUTRIGHT said "if you see people, odds are they are already friends" and it'd been a year and a fucking half
And we already know the blindsiding was because she was scared of a Kronii situation (which happened, and died out quickly because she made the right choice to just let it go and not engage)
Again, your entire retarded argument hinges on "well actually everything else is a lie and she only ever communicated with him on that week and never any other time"

>>105456963
the fag had 600+ stocks but doesn't matter since he couldn't sale half of it before the timer ran out

PINK! NOW PURPLE

>>105456970
Right, so you DO think she jumped in his DMs when she saw him sharting up the place on debut? Is that it? Because you said otherwise.

Fucking yikes shioricuck and homobeggar team up to defend shiori and jurard the classic flip subhuman tag team

>>105456871
>That is one of the things I assume he kicks himself forever
Why? Isn't he like mainstream successful now by eceleb standards and hanging out with Pewdiepie and Ludwig and still getting tons of money from his new normalfag audience?

Shut the fuck up and make Noel webms faggots

>>105456669
>>105456741
>>105456916
>>105456916
How do i unsubscribe from your shit ass blogs faggots.

>>105456936
the only way someone can beat Miko is by leeching or botting kek kuzuleechbot is not beating the allegations

>>105457009
modern hololive
get over it or get out

>>105456969
>whoever is good and natural at doing that just won't become a vtuber
Nah. that's the reason I mentioned Connor as he played that role before with moderate success in audience (but not monetary) until he got grossed out of it.
There is an amusing other half to that: anyone capable of playing a "rapey vampirey billionairey" character to an audience of thirsty women can play pretty much the same character to an audience of gay men and, given that the field is a whole lot less served, to make even more money out of it at the expense of debasing himself for it.
Hence, even when one of these pop up in the vtuber field, very quickly the dynamics becomes "gay for pay" to get the gay and fujo audience.

>>105456127
Did any JP even play that game?

>>105457009
Notice that xhe still hasn't replied to anon's thorough explanation of why xem's angle is retarded
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