Thread 105502814

>>105502814 (OP)
Who is this and why should I watch her?

good for her

I don't care i just like fat tits

Nice finally some good streams

>>105502858
pure girl who loves her fans

Lily Lost

>>105502814 (OP)
Comes back the day most chubas are traveling to Twitch Con HOLY BASED

>>105502952
Lily and her orbiters on twitch will be seething so much about this. She even boasted on the google dockey day how she has "career ending evidence" against Sinder.

>>105503029
Why hasn't she dropped it yet?

>>105503070
Maybe it was just in her head, or for some reason decided to hold it back. But after the shitshow of dogpile she did on Sinder and like 6 months I don't think people will care about anything she says about Sinder any longer.

i'm sure all the TVA thirdies like mahdeen and azehara are going to watch her streams from now on, considering they are so supportive of her

I didn't think she would come back with the Nano model to be honest

all that nonsense over a mid as fuck w*stern "artist"

>>105503233
kek, I wonder if she's even gonna keep 500 CCV after the initial drama numbers disappear

>>105503233
Good to know Red is still nutting in her! <3

>>105503291
I'm not sure about that. Think she can even peak at like 8-10k tomorrow because of all the drama around her and drama people, but long term 1,5 -2 k CCV is possible. Especially after the dogpile she got and everyone even outside of vtuber sphere talking about it bringing more people.

>>105503233
Damn she's getting double teamed by her new manager AND red? Wonder if she likes DP

>>105502858
Vtuber regina george

>>105502814 (OP)
Pyrocucks getting ready to enjoy red’s sloppy seconds!

>>105502858
average twitchwhore, this one seems more troubled than the rest but it's still the same creature

>>105502814 (OP)
Get your credit cards out, pyrocucks, mommy needs to pay her lawyer.

>is coming back as Lily leaves for twitchcon
Delightfully devilish

I really wonder what her content will focus on from now on. A large part of her brand was built around being wholesome and friendly, and also around collabs

>>105502814 (OP)
>wait long enough for people to stop caring much about the drama
>pretend you addressed the drama by publishing 1000 pages of rambling no employed person would ever read (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop)
>start streaming, saying she wants to move on and not address the controversy anymore
>fans can just accuse people of not reading the document if they criticize her
she's quite frankly a genius and I can't think of a smarter way she could have handled this. I won't watch her but credit where credit is due. it's especially ballsy that she's just continuing to use the same model too

>>105503506
She still has being a fat skank as part of her brand.

>>105502814 (OP)
>releases 1000 pages google dockey proving how Lily and Nano with couple of others are lying evil bitches
>waits for the Lily an orbiters to do their last streams before going to twitchcon
>announces stream tomorrow out of nowhere
Ngl, the upcoming Lily - Sinder hate is kinda hot

>>105503571
she could have just ignored it from the beginning and kept streaming

whats crazy is the 1k long doc actually made her look even worse by saying she is keeping her manager around lol

and the shylily and spite section is some of the most insane shit I've ever seen from a vtuber. Puts most /vt/ ratters to shame

>>105503605
I think you're misremembering how much of a shitstorm that was

>>105503233
>I won't be talking about anything that happened in the past
Why should I watch your stream then if I could be scratching my balls or playing BF6?

>>105503312
I wish I could nut in a pretty woman with big breasts :(

>>105502814 (OP)
>melody's back
>clara's back
>sinder's back
chudbros... we actually fucking lost...

>>105503655
she is just going for the ntr market

>>105503660
You could be playing BF6 while scratching your balls and watching Sinder's giant tits on the second monitor.

>>105502952
Sometimes I wonder if Grimmi actually thinks about these things or if she just acts on pure instinct, living devoid of context.
>Oh that sounds like a positive thing. I should respond positively!

>>105503029
>She even boasted on the google dockey day how she has "career ending evidence" against Sinder.
got a clip?

>>105503233
>new management team is just red in a trenchcoat

>>105503233
From the document I thought Red would still be managing her and burning her friends.

>>105503717
Giants tits are a dime a dozen in vtubing, I prefer a pair with less baggage attached

>>105503717
Dual monitors didn't work for me. I found it hard to concentrate on my main monitor. That being said, sometimes I miss having it. So sadly I'll have to pick one thing.

>>105503233
>blame everything on Red
>still keep him on the team with nothing but a pinky promise that he won't be running the show

>>105503655
The silvervale and bao part too, she really should've kept just to Nano, then maybe people would be on her side.

>>105503571
Cool fact, I thought about the stuff companies do during a trial where they present a pile of documents to make everyone waste their time.

Time to bet on how many viewers will Sinder get tomorrow. My bet is around 8k.

>>105503927
5k in the first hour, after that it'll drop. Next stream around 1-2k

>>105503927
Initially, then drop to 1k after she refuses to even acknowledge the drama (that she re-stirred with her cope dockey) and people will get bored.

>>105503962
dedicated pyrocucks will viewbot her

Grimmi loves women who cheat on their boyfriend

>>105503927
About 10k. Many other big twitch vtuber will be at twitchcon, so she'll have way less overlap. Many people will also tune in to try and see if she'll talk about the drama

>>105503927
10,000+ out of morbid curiosity
I think she will normalize out at around 1,500-2,500 by next week and that will be that

>>105502814 (OP)
I just can't bring myself to care about a chuuba who's getting dicked down by her manager

>>105503927
10k and then it will half every stream down to about 1k

>>105503721
Grimmi was defending her back in April even when all the evidence piled on

Wish I could see her ex friends' group chat right now. I don't like any of the vtubers involved, but the drama is enjoyable.

>>105504051
Based. I unironically followed Sinder after reading the Silvervale stuff because it really does feel like Silver hates her for their similarities but is being passive aggressive or outright lying about telling Sinder to leave her alone (Sinder kept rehashing her DM in which she invited her to message anytime), but then I remembered she gets dicked down by her manager like the rest of them, so I unfollowed.

Sorry Sinder, but he has to go.

>>105504051
Seriously. The amount of people who will simp for these twitch whores with their manager boyfriends is bizarre.

>>105503233
>everything is reds fault
>also he's still my boyfriend and mod
makes zero sense, who the fuck is still supporting her, what is wrong with you people

>>105503699
Sinder didn't do anything chuds wouldn't like

>>105502814 (OP)
She should start masturbating on fansly

>>105503233
>I won't be talking about anything that happened in the past.
no point in watching her if she's not showing her tits or talking about drama.

My biggest question is who is she gonna collab with? Large part of her content was collabing with others, like challenges with filian or neuro streams, doubt any of the ex-collab partners will want to work with her and basically get blacklisted from lily and all her orbiters. Lily being a co-owner of gamer sups and close to asmon (whole mythic talent agency) makes it even worse with trying to go against her.

>>10550421
Filian is a whore for numbers she will have no problem inviting sinder

>>105504219
Grimmi
probably some Phase Connect girls

>>105504258
Filian is the ultimate numbers addict inviting let's say questionable people, but Sinder would just get her blacklisted from like 80% of twitch indie vtubing so there's no way she will collab with sinder. Would be very surprised is she actually would.

>>105503233
Still with her dumbass boyfriend that tanked her career. You’re beyond cuck if you still watch her

>>105504353
Who has more indie influence: Filian or Shylily?

I think if a power struggle happened, you would see more people side with Filian

>go silent for 5 months
>suddenly release a 1000 page expose about how you're the victim
>"I won't be talking about the past"
Guess that new management team isn't much better than your cuck bf.

>>105503721
Grimmi is a fucking retard but she tries to be genuinely nice to everyone.
She's trying to "put good vibes out there"
To explain what she's doing.

>>105502814 (OP)
Pyrocucks will donate thousands of dollars to her tomorrow while she talks about her trips with Red kek.

>>105504413
it's not about Shylily at all. I don't think a lot of vtubers give a shit about Shylily she means nothing to them and vice versa.
It is about Bao. People don't want to hurt Bao. Filian wouldn't want to hurt Bao.

>>105502814 (OP)
Oh lawd she coming to collect the cuck bucks i give it a month before she crashes out again

>>105503145
The doxxniggers LOVE sinder for some reason, even though they supposedly hate whores that hide their boyfriends for years to deceive men.
They even hate alana and anti her because she spoke out against sinder and red.

>>105504353
Filian used to be a Sinder fan, and she used to have a Sinder mat on her desktop. When the drama was fresh she didn't really comment on it, but she she made it clear that he needed a new mat. Unless she has changed her mind (I don't think so, but we'll see), the reason she won't collab with her will be entirely personal, not related to any real or imaginary blacklist

>>105504130
she wasn't defending her back then, and isn't now. grimmi is just... the kind of person who borders on toxic positivity.

>>105503721
Grimmi suffered with enough negative things in her life that she tries really hard to not let it consume her anymore.

>>105503728
https://x.com/powdury/status/1977237195502371071

>>105504413
No doubt Shylily 100%. She got 11k viewers with the last video debut, she is a large % owner of gamer sups, took photos with twitch CEO IRL, releases info about V-cards as if she was the CEO and gets ultra mad at people releasing info about it before her and gives the vibes of the top dog in he vtuber part of Mythic Talent.
Also don't forget it was Lily that called and convinced all these indies to dogpile on Sinder.

>>105503233
lol those poor chat mods

>>105504458
if bao was cool with it, filian would 100% collab with sinder. she would do it just to give a fuck you to mythic and shylily for not having her back.
then you would see sinder get properly introduced to filians best friends the phase connect girls cause none of them give a shit about shylily

Now her ex friends would be thinking about it for all of Twitchcon. Diabolical.

Doxxniggers are powdur fans
Well that's not a great look for powdur but she's always been a grifter so it's not surprising either.

>>105504601
Phase girls are friends with Bao. They would not betray Bao.
Sinder means nothing to them.

>>105504219
there will be no shortage of low 3view vtubers who will jump at the chance to be in a new Sinder friend group.

>>105504541
Unrelated to Sinder, but Shylily's day is coming.

>>105504697
Vedal has basically been doing exactly that lol.
Dude has raided / invited the most random 3 viewers whos during neuro development over the years, and there are literally like 10 vtubers with big audiences only because Vedal gave them attention. Dude is 200IQ and instead of depending on some high ego established vtuber whores he's been recruiting his own vtuber circle.
But i cannot name anyone else that gives such a massive audience just by collabing. Filian collabed with vtubers like that bananya 10 viewers loli who multiple times, and her viewers numbers didn't change at all after filian collabs.

Why is Bao the Whore so highly regarded? she's the exact same type of grifter as the others on the whore clan. Is it cause she plays the eternal victim?

>>105504809
I don't think there are a lot of people defending her desu.
She basically did the same shit to Sinder, when Bao's long term video editor worked with Sinder on the Boss Rush video and it popped off while Bao's music videos are stuck on 100k views, so Bao instantly rushed to the editor and bought out exclusivity lol.
Just that Bao's editor just took the bag and kept quiet with being open about it with Sinder, while Nano was making shit up and changing mind every 2 weeks.

>>105504809
I don’t really get it either, all of these people are basically carbon copies of each other.
>manager boyfriend
>coomer whore models
>reaction slop content
What is the difference between shylily, bao, sinder, silver, etc when they all do the same shit.

>>105504803
Same with hololive collabs, Milkyqueen was a low 3view even after numerous collabs with Mori. I guess holo fans truly only watch Hololive

What do people like about this woman so much? AFAIK she said every bad thing she was accused of was true, just that the other girls are ALSO snakes?

>>105502814 (OP)
BOW DOWN TO THE QUEEN

>>105504957
Because people like Sinder, the big titty anime hellhound and how she interacted with them, and not the IRL womanoid behind it that was mean to other womanoids IRL that nobody gives a shit about.

>>105505007
Sinder is the one who released the doccy that confirmed she was a bitch.

>>105505032
We do not care.

>>105505088
That is obvious, pretending it's two different people was a weird cope.

who the fuck is nano i dont follow this shit

>>105502814 (OP)
cool

I don't care about Twitch whores though

>>105505127
I didn’t pretend anything. That was my one reply.

>>105502814 (OP)
is she gonna show tits now to make it up to old fans or what

>>105503927
I'd say 10K for the drama viewers
Either Sinder talks about it more, or she doesn't, either way the viewcount will plummet it once they realize they aren't getting anything else out of her

>>105504446
>>105504509
She sounds like a nice person. Is she a good streamer

>>105504353
>>105504413
Remember that Shylily is her cohost in Filians vtuber awards thing so I think she would care more about that. Though Sinder was also a preshow host in that so I guess who knows.
Filian was also making google doccy jokes and shit.

I'm ready to read numberfag cope about why she doesn't deserve gold.

>>105504803
You overestimate the intentionality and efficacy of it. Across 100 raids, three 2views did manage to climb up to 4view status, plus a couple becoming 3views and some reaction channels also benefiting, but that's it.
The important question is whether this corall will stick with Vedal through controversy. By virtue of being newer, they are less well connected with the broader vtuber community, so perhaps. However Vedal isn't particularly close to them or interacts with them that much, so I don't think there's a significant human connection there.
I think the Swarm does this because the Swarm is mostly normie and new to vtubers. Thus they have space for more vtubers to watch. I don't think a vtuber that doesn't pull viewers from beyond the vtuber bubble can do this.

>>105505289
I hope she maintains a higher viewership than average to make the whore clan mad. But she did something wrong!!! Bro she puts fries in the bag and make coom noises for me. That's good enough for me to put her on background plus she makes jealous whores in the same industry seethe.

>>105504957
The thing is nobody who wasn't personally involved cares. Is she a bitch and everything horrible? sure. But she's a woman everyone understands yes that's a womans normal female behavior.
if you were numi or bao or somebody else her actions matter. For the rest of us it's if some stripper you though quit stripping shows up again. Nobody cares about a strippers personality or what they do off stage. Hey she's back i can see her tits again.

>>105502858
>Who is this
Mean girl stacey
>why should I watch her?
10/10 boobs

>>105504413
Shylily has more weight on the business and coomer side of it, and slightly bigger numbers, people support her conditionally (clout, business deals). Filian has by far more support and love from actual viewers and vtubers themselves, people support her more unconditionally (because they actually like her, would bat for her and would let her get away with far worse things than most)

>>105506100
She is decent enough

>>105502814 (OP)
Will she discuss getting a new main artist?

>>105502814 (OP)
Collab with Numi when?

>>105502814 (OP)
Hopefully she blows her brains out on stream

>>105504697
>>105504803
smart move by sinder, and deadly mistake from shylily and friends for not finishing her off.

>>105502858
she's a kind hearted vtuber who was slandered by a group of mean girls solely because she was getting more popular than them

>>105503721
Grimmi had the basic literacy and common sense to see the bullshit, just like the rest of the indie scene that aren't fucking orbiters or members of the whoreclan.

>>105504485
Alana, whose high morals and strong ethics evaporate before the mere assumption she can get to the orca's good side. LMFAO

imagin being so braindead that u still decide to watch her. These are that type of people who clearly fail every inteligence check and shouldnt be allowed to vote in their country because common sense is missing here.

>>105503660
Why are you commenting on 4chan in a thread about a random vtuber instead of scratching your balls and playing BF6?
Could it be you have neither balls nor BF6 even?

>>105503598
Both when the "drama" started at Lily and her orbiters dropping documents and Sinder releasing her 1000 pages of receipts it was organized brigading generating noise. For the latter there were just not so much tourists due to them fearing receipts for they bring their greatest fear into existence: ACCOUNTABILITY.
There likely won't be a very organized attack because Lily will be too busy to coordinate it and her orbiters are all too self serving to take initiative themselves.

>>105502814 (OP)
people have short attention span and move on quickly.

>>105503721
grimmi is just genuinely a kind person

PYRO KEKS LET'S GO!

The AI are funny. People really made lots of them after the drama

>>105504219
There is an abundance of VTubers that aren't whoreclan orbiters nor naive autists thinking streaming is all friendship and love.

>>105504957
Femcel hands typed this.

>>105502814 (OP)
>Sinder comes back
>CCV is the same probably even bigger
>Donators remain the same
>Sinder thriving
>Meanwhile Bao's CCV has dropped to an all time low
>Bao will see that Sinder was unaffected by her and Shylily's smear campaign
>Bao kills herself
>Shylily pays for more bots to cope
>Nanoless becomes a nobody and is sold off in the Brazilian Sex Trafficking ring
Sinder fucking WINS

>>105502814 (OP)
God damn them titties

>>105503927
it will probably hit at least 10k
she will definitely have to adjust her content going forward though, without GFE she will have to go full amouranth

>>105502858
a saint ;_;

>>105504219
>Lily being a co-owner of gamer sups and close to asmon (whole mythic talent agency)
you mean the mythic talent agency that depersoned filian for getting raided by a random russian vtuber?
the asmon that bitched about other vtuber agencies for punishing their talents and treating them unfairly, and then did it himself?
that mythic group?
the one that owns a dime a dozen caffeine powder supplement sponsor that any 2view streamer can get access to?
that gamer supps?

>>105504413
filian 100%, shylily can be easily replaced, it's why she did what she did to sinder to begin with
if you aren't offering anything unique, just get rid of the competition and you'll stay on top

>>105507671
i really don't fault bao for being retarded, it's obvious that shylily was the mean girl mastermind

>>105507671
the whole thing is theatre anon.
when an industry starts to die, drama and excitement is what brings it back.

sinder was a sacrificial goat in order to create drama and cohesion, now that the impact of the drama has abated, they've sent sinder back into the trenches to stir up more drama or take part in the vtubing ecology.
once you realize that its all fake (and gay), you'll learn to spot the tells of the industry in action

>>105507998
yes...??

>>105502814 (OP)
avoid twitch at all cost

>>105507720
literally just a drawing, those same pixel gradients could be used to draw some dudes butt.
have some self respect, anon

>>105504413
the phase mob is with filian

>>105508020
>filian 100%
cap, best girl is gilian 1000% +1

>>105508051
this, shylily is the smarter one of the vthots, she was scheming and saw an oppo

>>105508139
>the phase mob is
anon, everyone loves filian.
i dont know a single person irl that hates filian, she's that lovable (nonsexual)

>>105508189
ironlung

>>105508124
>dudes butt
You sound like a faggot if I’m being honest anon

Rima shitting on the sinder doc right now if anyone cares

>>105502814 (OP)
Hello community of forever one.

Just give it time for the other whores to start fighting between each other.
Every single one of the big vtubers have dirt on each other and is waiting to throw each other under the bus.
Yes, even shilily.

Either way
Hololive won

>>105508094
just making sure, i don't really see mythic lasting too much longer, they are wasting a ton of money on garbage like behind the vale and they are already killing off major talents like filian for nonsense reasons

>>105508273
not really, rima is a retard

>>105508515
tbf no vtuber got more out of Mythic than Filian. Most of their "talent" sits and does nothing. She got them to fund 2 award shows and a Nikke concert for her among other things

>>105502858
Unironically all these twitch whores just blend together. It's all the same big titted model and egirl voice but with different colored hair.

>>105503291
Bunny_gif still maintains a decently strong following despite her drama creating a much larger rift, though she completely stopped being a vtuber and changed her handle. I'd bet Sinder will see something similar.

>>105508579
mythic is just night media's little leagues, like otk
just another failed org to the pile

>>105508579
phase connect got more out of mythic than mythic talent gets out of mythic

>>105504219
she'll scrape the phase barrel

>>105503721
Grimmi always does that she always wants to have a positive answer to everything but eventually it becomes annoying and it makes her look like a pussy
>She is even aware of it since people have called her that to her face

>>105509050
Phase are close with Filian and Bao.

>>105502814 (OP)
>has Shondo's blessing
She is so back.

>>105502814 (OP)
Cool, I guess.
She's a shit person clearly but I don't really care what she does as long as she's not bothering people I like.

>>105509117
>Phase and Bao
lol no. Bao hates Phase because Lia disrespected her during their collab because she barely interacted and it was pretty obvious she was playing FF14 the entire time

>>105509243
medication time
bao loves lia and lia loves bao

>>105509243
>she was playing FF14 the entire time
That’s my oshi?

>>105509243
Nigga ur retarded. Bao is good friends with Lia, marimari_en and Nyana who is joining phase next week.

>>105502814 (OP)
who the fuck is her audience now? casuals hate her because they like the basic bitch whoreclan. online schizos have always hated her just because. her core fans hate her because she's been lying to and cucking them for years and admitted it. I mean who's left? Who the fuck does she appeal to? Fat tits are everywhere, that's not enough anymore

>>105508273
Hang and Quarter Rima, remember this words, It could be the last ones you and your cabal of dramatubers hear after being shot in a con, according to False at least

>>105503695
we all do, anon. that's why we hate him

>>105509507
The cucks are the only ones left but feel like people will just watch her to see if she does anything funny

>>105509572
true, she'll get a brief drama boost but it doesnt sound like she's going to capitalize on it. She could have at least pulled a Doki and grifted for some quick cash

>>105509243
Are you joking? Bao and Lia collaborated multiple times, to the point that they became comfortable enough to make lewd jokes towards each other. Bao also cheered Lia on top of her lungs when she showed up on stage during the Nikke concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRZ-fqVLGyQ

>>105503571
>it's especially ballsy that she's just continuing to use the same model too
For what it's worth, you can commission other artists to use the base to make new outfits, but she's probably just doing a Sakuna and using it until she gets a new one

>>105504023
I'm gonna be less charitable and say 2-4k at most.
Many people were genuinely turned off and just don't care about her anymore.
>>105504024
I'll be surprised if she stays above 1k

It's so easy to just win in the vtubing world
>No matter how much you fuck up the male viewers don't want to let go of their love for you
>It hasn't even been a year but you can already use the "I have changed as a person" excuse

>>105504261
>Grimmi
Grimmi's such a pushover, dear lord. Girl needs to learn to actually have an opinion and stop being a bagholder.

>>105506100
She's pretty funny and makes a lot of silly voices or comes up with stories on a whim. Incredible voice range for impressions.

Oh and she does erotic audio on her alt chuuba account, but I think she stopped making content on it in like july.

Does red have blackmail on her?
I don't get it- if you just publish a doc on some of the nanoless stuff and say you won't work with red anymore you would be gold.

both red and nanoless look like assholes and you looked completely fine.
but then you say he was in the right, and go on this unhinged rant about silver and lily and destroy your comeback. hell most of the dramatubers aren't even reacting to your doc cause its so long and boring.

she should have just comeback the week vshojo implosion happened
that was her best chance

>>105504803
Zentreya did that a few times. Geega is notably one of the 2views she randomly raided. (before she destroyed her viewership by spamming accountant RP in GTA)
Technically she helped grow ironmouse too.

Milky's still a sad example because iirc she was a 2view all the way until she graduated. Who knows if she'll do better with her new IP

>>105508204
>ironlung
i dont know her irl, so my point stands

only ugly people hate fox girl fillian

>>105507545
Anon, Sinder's going after the latter. They're the ones she can easily backstab like Bao or Numi.

>>105508240
i try to speak in the least vulgar way possible anon, i could speak crudelike, but its not my style.

sorry

>>105508283
>forever 1
but we are both here, that means forever 3, checkmate

>>105503291
If anything CCV will increase from drama vulture and along with Bao and co. Hatewatching

>>105510383
Grimmi had an alt? I thought she did the erotic stuff years ago on grimmi and just deleted it.

>>105509614
I don't think Doki's situation is in any way similar considering Doki actually had a positive reputation.
I still find it fucking hilarious she made 120k dramafags listen to her gush about Warrior Cats ships for an hour.

>>105502814 (OP)
Good.
Sinder wasn't a saint but neither are the accusers. I love it when she drag them down to hell.

>>105510576
At this point everything is so muddied I don't even know what's real anymore.
The funniest part is that her voice range is so wide that I can't even be sure the alt I've seen is even her.

Can someone catch me up, is she the red version of Bunny_gif
>cosplayer turned vtuber
>doesn't understand why Silvervale stopped responding to her
>wave of google docs
>exposed boyfriend (OGTexas/Red)
>first tries to [apologize], then goes all cards on the table
>comes back late this year
Did I get that right?

>>105510492
>Backstab
Yeah it's totally not the orca that led an organized brigade to pressure everyone relevant calling her bullshit "evidence" out into silence, and it was totally wasn't the orca whose corporate influence skyrocketed directly as the result of this campaign by coercing Sinder into selling her Gamersupps share.
Try harder, s(hr)imp.

>>105511020
Hey, it's not me you have to convince.
It's the friends she betrayed that won't even give her the time of day anymore.
But that'll be difficult to do considering the moment she came back, Sinder just started shitting on everybody like a psychopath instead of acknowledging the things she did wrong and taking steps to fix them.

>>105503291
I'll tune in, give her a follow and net myself a giftsub during the inevitable hype train.

>>105511341
>she betrayed
LMFAO
The whoreclan just went crabs in a bucket on their alleged friend.
It wasn't her doing the stabbing. Shylily and the rest just screamed their own crime at the victim in as a preemtive defense and you troglodytes fall for it every time it happens

>>105510972
Nah, the boyfriend thing itself didn't matter as much as her kicking the ladder out from under her and trying to cut her friends off of resources/models while pretending to be upset whenever it happens.
>>105511605
You don't know what the phrase "crabs in a bucket" means.
And again, it's not me you have to convince. It's the people who will no longer work with her due to her actions

>>105511673
More like you have no idea what went down, because you are willfully ignorant of anything but your preferred narrative.
You are just showing how fucking stupid you are, as if it was a badge of pride.

Did you cucks like the part where she said red, her manager boyfriend is "as much a part of Sinder as I am"

Also she should do a collab with whatever Rushia is called these days that would be based.

>>105511769
Anon, you holding your ears and screaming LALALA won't repair the relationships she destroyed through her own selfish actions.

>>105510972
After counting the "&" in a post she's more like Mr. 17.8 percent. We should call her Mrs. 15 times instead.

Without any bait why do you guys keep continuing to reward bad people. Both sides acted like teenagers who don't know how friendship or business works. If she actually enjoyed doing this job why screw people over instead of just doing things the normal way.

>>105512371
sunk cost fallacy

>>105512045
You see that's the false narrative.
The slutty orca opened Pandora's box with this publicity stunt since now that destroying those ahead is "okay" it's only a matter of time until even her head rolls, and the "friends" that have been complicit in it also have to watch their backs from each other now.
There is a fucking reason most of the whoreclan unsuccessfully tried to escape and form new friend circles by desperately trying to collab with all sorts of smaller VTubers right after for a while, but went back to orbiting as they are not trusted anymore for a reason.
You can keep screeching from the top of your lungs to block out all other noise, but reality won't change, this entire industry keeps functioning as it actually functions.

>>105512407
>and the "friends" that have been complicit in it also have to watch their backs from each other now.
Hey
Hey
I got a secret for you
If you don't do stupid shit to hurt your friends behind their backs, they won't have anything to expose.

>>105512383
If you hold on to people like this then you're just getting set up for disaster

>>105512475
One small issue. Streaming is an industry for narcissists.

>>105512475
>buh buh her fweeeeens
99% of the whoreclan that chimed in are completely unrelated, unoffended, but absolutely have monetary gain from Sinder getting exiled.
Nanoless instigated shit herself, Nanoless was completely onboard and took pleasure in fucking with people. It wasn't Sinder's backstabbery.
Lily cut screenshots to generate a false narrative.
Lily even tried to weaponize Bao's suicidal depression at the time trying to push her over the edge with the doctored screenshots.
Lily was also trying to use her as a bludgeon to the level of even trying to have Bao do the boyfriend reveal, who refused.
You don't know shit, just cling to a "BUT THE VICTIIIMS!", and "vtubing is peaceful and serene and totally not a billion dollar industry" delusion.
You have no fucking idea what went down.
Do. Your. Fucking. Homework.

>>105512475
You are not being attempted to be convinced. You are being told to fuck off, you lying piece of shit.

>>105512933
Dude you sound like a seething sister.
Listen to yourself. You're tying yourself in knots trying to craft some major conspiracy while ignoring Sinder's part in all of this.

>>105512959
Bro you're melting down so hard over this. Did ShyLily kill your dog or something?
Oh wait, I guess it was more of a wolf.

>>105512407
>Sinder did bad thing and get excommunicate.
>This is not Sinder's fault, the ones who excommunicate her are at fault.

>>105502814 (OP)
All I will say is that while I was never really a fan of hers and feel indifferent to the "animated e-hoebag" style of Vtubing; I do not believe she deserves to get forever canceled and I believe that her main issue is a lack of self-control/self-discipline. Greed and jealousy are like any other emotion including kindness and joy: they need to get placed under golden temperance.

>>105512933
I was going to tell you that sinder won’t fuck you but now that we know she’s a dirty cheater she actually might. keep it up bro and she might just give you a handjob at some convention behind reds back

>>105513540
this post might make me watch the Sinder comeback

>>105502814 (OP)
>>105503233
I guess you can't have your career cancelled if you release a 1000 page google dockey no one will read and claim to be the victim, ignore everything, and refuse to talk about it.

You just know the biggest cuck simps will still be there to send her money like the good little paypigs they are

>>105513035
In what measure is anything Lily pulled justified? I get you are a sociopath that treats real people like fictional characters but you can't be this retarded.
Pulling escalatingly worse extremes is why everyone has to watch their backs now as "friendly competition" turned into Hollywood showbiz tier backstabbing. Not because of Sinder, but because Shylily and a sociopathic Brazilian started an entire crusade with brigading to remove someone major entirely, motivated by financial gain and MASSIVE corporate influence by taking Sinder's share in gamersupps. It's a pit of vipers now, and it's a matter of time until their head rolls too.
But sure keep with knighting. It's all AOK when your queen does it after all....

>>105513662
Woman wrote this. This specific style can only written by a women or Swedish "men".

They might seethe about the thousand pages, but they worked.
Sinder delivered a real apology that admits her guilt and humanized her again, after she was perceived to be vtubings Hitler.
Sinder doesn't need anything more. What she did created attention and will retain her core audience.
Sinder won.

And Lily can't do anything about it other than shlick and seethe. Because if she keeps beating that dead horse any further she will just confirm that she is a petty cunt.

At the end of the day both will coexist and avoid each other like the plague

>>105513065
Wow the brigadiers woke up.
I'm hoping you retards are at least getting paid for this because neither Shylily, not Silver nor Nano will fuck you.
Not at least until your dicks have as much benefit as Dan Clancy's. LMFAO

>>105513662
>MASSIVE corporate influence by taking Sinder's share in gamersupps.
Is there even any proof that Shylily took her shares? Did her shares even increase?

>>105513781
Using pretended retardation as an arguement and deflection is a femcel way to argue.
Also protection.
You are not sneaky.
Show tits. Now.

>>105513818
Waiting for DJ Clancy to ban Sinder for any random bullshit reason during her stream today as a favor for Lily, just for it to backfire and boost her popularity even more.

>>105513859
Funny how you throw the burden of proof around based entirely on whatever is most convenient for you to be able to keep talking out of your ass.

>MASSIVE SHARES
lmao last time I checked GS was worth 2 mil
nothing massive about that.

>>105502814 (OP)
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRN

>>105513954
>>105513818
No, everyone's been pretty consistent.
Pyropups have just been screaming about how Shylily's this evil mastermind and how she did this and that specifically to get X but without any evidence she's actually even gotten X or cared about it to begin with.
Same with all the "Whore clan are all like Sinder! You're just mad Sinder got caught first!" or some shit without any actual precedent.
Instead of speculating about all this shit by pretending they're all as deranged as Sinder, why not show some evidence at least?

>>105513799
>They might seethe about the thousand pages, but they worked. Sinder delivered a real apology
No one read through the entire Google dockey thing. If you did, you have severe autism

>>105513971
Silvervales Fansly already mogs Sinders.
But Sinder can recover that by fuelling anger faps and adding pubic stubble to her model. I believe

>>105509507
Coomers

>>105514045
That argument goes both ways, Mr. ADH

>>105513799
>Sinder delivered a real apology that admits her guilt and humanized her again, after she was perceived to be vtubings Hitler.
Nobody thought of her as vtubing's hitler.
She's just a cunt. You guys have an insane persecution complex.
Also she did not give a real apology at all. She continued to blame everything on Red and then said he's sticking around anyways in exactly the same function as before. According to Sinder, she's done nothing wrong! It was all Red! (who's sticking around and suffering no consequences)

And on top of that, she spent hundreds of pages schizoing out about Silvervale and a "speculation" section trying to blame literally anybody but herself.
What the fuck kind of apology needs a "speculation" segment attacking others?

>>105509507
The same audience that she always had: literally everyone
No ones oshi streams all the time. Sinder always managed to attract normies and to be entertaining enough so hard core vtuber fans can watch her as a filler.
Neither audience cares about the drama. The only viewers who will avoid her are whoreclan fans.

>>105514114
Anon... she got wiped off the face of the internet and was the laughing stock of the vtuber world for months.
How is that a persecution complex? Make it make sense man. Just read your own fucking post for once and compare it to reality.

People who... aren't tourists?
You know that real fans WILL stick around right?
Are you just so hollow you can't comprehend fandom?

>>105514186
>Anon... she got wiped off the face of the internet and was the laughing stock of the vtuber world for months.
No, she really wasn't.
You wanna see a real case where someone was wiped and made into a laughing stock? Look what happened when Zaion was fired.
All Sinder had was a few big names she stepped on revealed she was stepping on them. Completely salvageable if she just shut up and apologized/pretended like she was going to be better from now on.

Instead she came back swinging like a psychopath without addressing any of the reasons people were upset with her to begin with, and will continue to have mild success as there will still be tons of people frothing at the mouth to work with her for her former size.

>>105514114
>Nobody thought of her as vtubing's hitler.
Except that's the literal narrative....

>>105514267
Of course they will. No one actually gives a fuck about the drama. We just lile to gossip and make shit up because we are bored

>>105514279
Someone didn't read.

>>105514279
Name the reasons why people were upset then. Because Nanoless canceled Baos models out of her own free will.
As proven by literal hundreds of pages of chatlogs.

>real apology
>i'm sorry you feel that way my boyfriend made me do it

>>105514321
god I love chuubas who love Dokuro cjan
should marry them

>>105514307
>gossip
LOL

>>105514377
Based faithful cheater wife redemption arc

>>105514351
See, the difference is mostly in how each responded to the shit they did.
Nano actually apologized and worked with the people she wronged to make up for it.

Sinder blamed everything on Red and said it was a giant conspiracy against her because she was perfectly innocent.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST MORE TITS

>>105514412
Nanoless can suck it. She got greedy and weaponized the Whompers arsenal just because Sinder wouldnt finance her house fast enough lmao
If anyone deserves to be nuked it is her

>>105514462
>Nanoless tried to actually fix things instead of blaming everything on her boyfriend! That cunt deserves to be cancelled, not Sinder!

So let me get this straight about the RED guy.
He(according to Sinder herself) is THE guy who did all this BUT she didn't fire or cut tie with him.

>>105514412
>cancel contracts
>apologizes by making the same counteracts
>I sowwy! This time I'll draw for realsies! Im just a poor ESL Brazilian Grill UwU
Can't make this shit up

>>105514412
>Nano actually apologized and worked with the people she wronged to make up for it.
>"ummm I accepted premium price for my exclusivity, then dropped everyone because I took too many commissions then pinned it all on Sinder because Shylily offered me more clout, and I personally wanted her to burn because imagine all the gossip!"
That horny Brazilian bitch is the most insane of the entire bunch. LMFAO

Sex wolf back!

>>105514506
Nope. That is just misinformation from summaries. Red just did a little more because he was overly protective of Sinder.

>>105514506
Yeah that's about right.
A good third of the 1000 pages and nearly all of her first "apology" was her shifting the blame onto him.
She takes no responsibility for anything and has no plans to make amends.

>>105513936
It would then create an opportunity for Kick and Rumble to get greater support.

Shylily is flat as a board irl

Sinder has true massive mommy milkers irl and vtubing wise

I know who im staying with

Man all the seething shripms in the comments...
If chat reflects the streamer the Clancy's cocksleeve must be absolutely livid.

>>105514637
Sinder is also twice her height. Sinder could suplex her with one arm. God knows that I would pay good money to see them fight it out

>>105514699
akshully she is Boeskas cocksleeve. Clancy just likes to watch.
There is old clips about the two talking on stream about Lily wearing his underwear. She forgot to mute the mic

>>105514699
>Man all the seething shripms in the comments...
Dude if you think everyone with a bone to pick with Sinder is a Shylily fan, you're in for a rude awakening.
Seriously, you sound like sisters with the "everyone who dislikes niji is a faggoon" nonsense.

>woman is objectively an evil bitch
>"Idc her tits are big"
Men are trash.

>>105514826
A woman wrote this post. Flatty rage is the female equivalent of manlet rage.

>>105514785
and everyone who defends Sinder is a Pyrocuck. yes, it is that simple

>>105514826
Being an evil bitch is not detrimental from her value as an entertainer. Meanwhile funbags make streams more fun.

>>105514038
>It's just pyropups thinking that
lol

>>105514785
so
>acksully I'm a [insert random orbiter] simp
or
>I'm a literal fucking tourist but pretend I'm not so I can act like my opinion has any value beyond a wet fart
Sure bro. Just don't forget to kill yourself either way if you have nothing better to with your life than shitting up threads.

So is this how the shrimp cucks and tourists see Sinder then? LOL

>>105514988
I'm more of a
>let's laugh at the simps desperately defending a rightfully scorned woman to absolutely nobody since no one will take them seriously

>>105515044
>rightfully
you are not escaping the allegations, cuckbot

Lily fucked up. Instead of silently disposing of Sinder she couldn't help but gloat on stream. So yes, Lily outed herself as a petty bitch.
She should never have let her mask slip.
She exposed herself as an evil petty cunt long before the Sinder dokky dropped.

Honestly, I am 90% certain that Sinder and Red just wrote that huge document based on discussion here. And that is why it works

>>105515084
eeeeeviiiiiiillllll

>>105515035
It's how I see Sinder before she steps on my balls too

>>105515113
Not necessary evil. Just an angry German woman. They pride themselves in efficiency.

>>105515081
oh no you're serious, huh?
is fucking the streamer all you can think about?
Holy shit this place is funny.

>>105515148
nta but yes. 99% of vtubers viewers want to fuck them

>>105515044
>>105515148
>I'm a literal tourist and-
Subhuman noise discarded.

>>105515196
>You guys are the subhuman ones, not me desperately trying to fuck this taken woman in the first world!
Though I guess Sinder's one of the few actually willing to cheat on her boyfriend with her fans, so keep it up! You might get lucky!

>>105502858
The epitome of "woman moment" and you should watch her if you want the real GFE, with all the back stabbing, honeyed words, and gossiping that comes with it.

I can almost smell the estrogen in this thread.

>>105515250
>Did someone say GOSSIP!?

Who cares? Just fap to the models or play a game. Why are you no lifeing this thread?

The one thing that I will never understand is why these grown ass women are so fucking retarded.
Imagine working with Nanoless after this shitshow.
But I guess that the sisterhood can't backpedal based on reason. They cleared her of all bad juju vibes, so Nano is a very mentally stable professional now

OL is peak.

Way I see the situation, nano stirred some shit.
Lily went full mean girls, coordinated and whipped the mob.
Lots of deceptive story telling for maximum damage.
Lots of mean girls, "omg this nothing burger was totally offensive".

Sinder chased off, and lost probably in the range of 5 to 15 million dollars in revenue and assets as a result of having to cancel everything and give up her gamersupps ownership.

Unfortunately its all an international affair, so seeking redress is impossible.

>>105515401
only objectively true post in the entire thread

>>105504957
Sinder is the YE of vtubing.

>>105515385
The models she created are of the highest quality.
She's the most wanted artist right now and it's the whoreclan that moves LITERAL MILLIONS in dollar into the artists and riggers, which also massively price gouges everything resulting in the rest of the insurmountable indie scene being paywalled out of the thing that used to be the great equalizer.

I don't even think that Lily is evil.
All the girls probably just shared their stories and kept hyping up each others victimhood until they all concluded that Sinder was a legitimate threat. So Shylily, the most charismatic person of the bunch and the only one with the means to do it stepped in with her final solution to purge the Sinder manace from their lives.
Classic German approach.

I'll never forgive the whoreclan for making us miss out on bikini season!!!

>>105515496
Her value as an artist is the only reason she gets tolerated.
As soon as they realize that there are alternatives, they will drop Nano like a hot potato.

>>105515509
When someone gets a massive influence boost over a corporation she suddenly is the sole face of, there is a lot of notice to be had. LMFAO.

>>105515541
Unless you discover how to 3D print Clickdraws and Cillia clones Nano will stay in high demand til she dies.

>>105515580
Before the Sindering, Lily spammed sponsors nonstop and her numbers tanked completely. After the Sindering Lily started doing normal streams again and more than recovered.
Really makes me think...

They should just kiss and make out already.
Too bad science haven't discovered the gayification serum yet.

14 more hours fellow pyropups

>>105515580
Whenever people bring up Sinder being the charizard of that set as if it's a good thing, all I can think about is how base set Charizard was fucking ASS. Worthless card only liked because it's expensive. Rain Dance Blastoise was an actual king.

>>105515606
Nano won't have the same benefits to other chuubas.
Sinders success had three pillars:
collab spam
insane production quality
constant hype around new models and outfits

No one can replicate this without a dedicated artist who mainly draws one vtuber, like Nano did for Sinder. Nano proved that if anyone of her clients tries to rely on consistent and frequent art from her, like Sinder did, she will throw a tantrum and fuck them over. Like she did with Sinder. Bitch is not fit for a professional environment. They think that they can replicate Sinders success with Nanos art. They are mistaken.

>>105515726
>Nano proved that if anyone of her clients tries to rely on consistent and frequent art from her, like Sinder did, she will throw a tantrum and fuck them over.
lol pyrocucks actually believe this

>>105515688
Nobody ever gave a shit about the card game and it's meta. People only ever wanted the pretty pictures.
Hence her card skyrocketed in value right away and only increases even now.

>>105515739
Nano had a very normal menhera artist meltie. She is the one who dropped all her other clients because she overbooked herself.
What do you think will happen now that everyone wants her art again?
The exact same shit. Because girls like her won't ever learn from their mistakes

>>105515783
Of course it's skyrocketing.
Shit's about to be rarer than a black lotus.

>>105515739
It's a very authentic woman moment yes.
If you weren't too scared to interact with any IRL you'd know from experience.

>>105515794
It was skyrocketing when it was new and unlimited, while the less popular ones sold for pennies in comparison.

I'll laugh so hard when Nano inevitably scams Bao

Sleepwear is pure SEX

So tldr is just everything is true but others girls are bitches also?
what a nothingburger

>>105515859
Scams Bao, again.

>>105515876
Not really but yes.
Basically the main accusation is a lie. The artist canceled the projects on her own. Sinder might be a bad person, but she did NOT sabotage her friends' vtubing career.

>>105515831
>whiny bitch on 4chan desperately defending a known cheater/backstabber thinks he can talk about "women moments."

>>105515859
You think Shylily will try to prod her into offing herself again?
Do you think Bao will finally notice this time!?

>>105515921
>Bao
>noticing
good one

But spill the tea sis, when was the last time she handed Bao a rope? I assumed that they got along well?

>>105503598
I am looking forward to the EVIL woman art arc, in addition to the Lily x Sinder hate sex.

>>105515918
>character flaws and bad judgement is on the same level as coordinated carreer assassination
Do girls really?

>>105515918
Don't quote the ancient magics to me, femcel.
Away with ye! The anime tits compel ye!

>>105515921
I do believe this rrat.
Explains why she pressured Bao into writing her google dokky

>>105502814 (OP)
Where is the fucking onlyfans? I want you to do porn not mid streams, you boring bitch.

>>105516028
Anon... her Fansly is utter garbage. And she isn't hot enough to do OF.
Not trying to throw shade, it's just that her other qualities are way superior to her lewd content

>>105516028
Don't worry, once she sees her new numbers it's gonna flare up harder than the horse dildo she'll be using.

If she really continues streaming with absolutely zero consequences and her simps forgive her, this may be one of the worst hobbies in recent history.

>>105515948
>Fully aware that Bao due to health reasons she needed a literal surgery to make stop, is still suicidally depressed until her hormones stabilize
>Nags her into looking at the edited screenshots and gives her the now proven to be false "betrayal" story
>On her way to a safe space Bao almost crashes her car
Gee I fucking wonder, sis.

If Shilily is so petty, why isn't she streaming on Fansly to mog Sinder?

>>105516052
Not like Silverseethe is any better. LOL

>>105516080
She has an ugly 3d model that poses with cocks, and a chat service where Brazilians pretend to be her for pennies. That is way better than anything Sinder did on Fansly

>>105516057
If Shylily, Nano and their orbiters really continues streaming with absolutely zero consequences and their simps forgive them, this may be one of the worst hobbies in recent history.

Yet here we are.

>>105516109
Now that's objectively false.

>>105516061
This would be so sad if it weren't so fucking funny. Say what you want about Shilily,but her practical humor is second to none.
>Shilily
>friends
Can't make this shit up

>>105516076
She's selling her body directly to men of influence.

>>105516146
Name one legit coomer thing that Sinder did on Fansly.

>>105516148
The joke of the century.

It feels like half this thread is Shylily and Sinder talking shit about each other.

>>105516188
God if the clancyposter was Sinder this entire time, I'd actually respect her.

>>105516172
Watch the vods.

>>105516188
honestly, It's mostly seething orbiters.
most chuubas don't give a fuck and are enjoying that the big ones are having the same highschool drama in public for once

>>105516225
I won't. But liggermen called her Fansly exceptionally bad. So I will believe them. I'll never visit blue websites

>>105516061
Don't forget that she tried to make Bao reveal that Sinder has a bf.
But Bao refused.
Lily really needs to up the torture if she wants Bao to kiss the ring

>>105516261
>liggermen
The only thing they don't hate with a passion is a select few niche 3views.

>>105516293
Smug Sindana (fire form)

>>105516325
They do love Juniper and Bao... oh shit nvm

Funny how the baitposting tourists evaporated the moment the tits spam started.
Makes you wonder about their gender, sexuality and the morbidity of their obesity. LMFAO

>>105516357
can't tell if Sinder or Lily wrote this post

>>105516370
Good morning Nihmune

>>105516370
Holy shit
Is that canon size? I still have no idea how big her tits are supposed to be

>>105516490
At least on this model, yes.
To bad she probably never uses it again.
RaijuuNara just found it relaxing to draw big boobs.

>>105502858
some slampig, check out her cosplay and move on.

FUCKING KEK I almost want everything to work out for her
The amount of foid and effeminate male seethe will be too much to contain

I just want to see Shylily turn out to be an evil bitch because it would be so funny.

Lia should graduate.

>>105516370
why did she quit using her old model

>>105504444
>new management team

>>105517729
It's definitely not Red in a trenchcoat, trust me on this bro

>>105512959
>sinder says "all they said about me is true. but they also did shit"
>guy says "sinder did some shit"
>simp screams "NOOOOOOO SHE DINDU NUFFIN IT'S ALL A LIE!!!!!1 SINDER LIED ABOUT DOING THOSE THINGS SHE LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG!!! REEEEE"
kek