Thread 105684205

Literal Coolest Shit Ever Edition

Welcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.

Zen and Saii are LIVE! And is doing a Twitchcon walkaround with Deme and Jowol. Pick a POV they're the same. Other than that Peke is LIVE! And is playing some Stardew! That's it for now so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Image source: https://x.com/RoamingTuna/status/1979316900007153868

/xvsj+/ includes:
Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru
Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro
Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied
Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

Related /in/dies:
Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug
Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane
Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantome
Feebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee
Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo
Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo

Related:
/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company
/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussion

Previous thread: >>105672032

fuck you ironmouse

fuck me ironmouse

>>105684276
fuck you gunrun

fuck all ironmouses

silvervale bad

remove ironmouse

>>105684205 (OP)
cute art

silver's vales good

I'll fuck goddess mouse

fuck ironmouse (feet)

>>105684414
agreed

>>105684442
give me the original image so I can do something with it.

>>105684515
>>105680653

the guy on Zen's stream is a serial killer, someone call the police. Oh wait, they're watching the thread.

guy who was credited with saving his own life by not killing himself is parasocial off Vince and Zen and a leader of the lurkers which has been litigated against.

>>105684364
any way she wants it.
She deserves the best fuck of all time

Gentlemen I love Ironmouse, Silvervale, Henya, Zen, Froot, Vei, Haruka, Kson, Beri, Pia, Tori, Mint, Feebee, Victoria, Momo, Mata, Mel, Hime, Nyan, Nazuna, Kuro, Geega, Michi, Hotaru, Peke, Hestia, Nagi, and Ama.

Girl on the left is Vex's model artist

>>105684711
who?

>>105684711
Based unitychad.

>>105684711
Zentreya is my wife, the person who victimized me in the lineup for the crime you're trying to make an arrest for is Haruka.

>>105684711
you're too based for this thread

>>105684711
you forgot to crop out the purple guy

I love lewd waifu Mouse

>>105684711
whore

not to be mean, but i really want to see the artist alley, can't oscer cut the line short?

The sega shirt guy is parasocial off of Vince and Zen and angry that Vince preferred Shadow as well as Zen and started to stalk and harass them, it's really messed up.

>>105684711
Oh yeah? List everything you love about each of them. No overlap or generic responses allowed.

>>105684805
Mouse hates you and all of her gooner fans.
She would replace you all with normies if she could.

This guy's got a really good girl_dm_ cosplay. Apparently he was Juniper at Weebcon

>>105684472
reminder you could've felt those juggs on your chest
all you had to do was ask for a hug when you saw Silver walking around the con

this artist also runs a censorship complex account and has been arrested which is why she's not showing her face.

>>105684847
I think he was trying to do that a while ago.

Gentlemen. I love Ironmouse.

>>105684946
>this artist
which one?

Vince and Zen have the same opinion about that shadow pin.

Another couple vtubers

I miss my wife

>>105684711
tabs

>>105685058
we don't support incest in this thread. I'm calling the police

>>105685058
oyakodon

Geega please discord stream

>>105684711
Holy Based

>>105684444
go back to sleep monke

LAO SHAN LUNG MENTIONED

>>105684548
>>105684515
https://files.catbox.moe/e0jkf9.mp4

>>105685434
kek

>>105684711
>didn't mention 4th beastie
fake and gay

Zen has outplayed them all.

the jowol thing suto showed

Henry live

Henya is live

Jesus Christ is LORD.

https://files.catbox.moe/nn5xuq.jpg

Silver looked a lot more normal on her 3rd day
My wife is no longer tired

>>105685746
Which one is silver?

>>105685788
the one on the right, same tits

>Balloon pops in the background
>Everyone immediately thinks it was a gunshot
Just American things

>>105684805
Lewd Mouse was the best, its a shame we lost her.

>>105685788
cutie on the right
she lost her ears in tragic factort accident...

Real life deniers are tanking in the stock market.

>>105685746
Crazy psycho eyes. She definitely cheated on all of her ex boyfriends. Probably keyed their car too

>>105685746
>https://files.catbox.moe/nn5xuq.jpg

She looks like Froot if Froot ate enough.

>>105686008
that's hot though
imagine the sex

>>105686008
>incomprehensible schizo babble

>>105686058
What sex? You’ll be sitting in the cuck chair

>>105685746
>not pregnant

Zen is raiding Pepe

Zen wanted to raid her husband tonight but he'll be in patreon night, verified.

>>105685746
I knew her cosplay outfit shoes made her look tall. Even with those boots she looks about as tall as what I expected. She really is just a smol wolf girl.

>>105686140
Okay, cuck, enough with the projections.

>>105684472
>5 guys didn't play with them
dyrbi?

>>105685744
So true king

https://files.catbox.moe/6rgso8.mp4 (I Forgot to put in the reference image on this one)

https://files.catbox.moe/qkaacv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/odzekj.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/8i0ulm.mp4 (favorite so far)

>>105686176
She's 5'5 or 5'4 I can't remember
yeah she's short
I remember she said her cosplay heels are about 4-5 inches

Beri and Tori both went live within the same minute while I was getting something. Tori's retrying her Doom marathon and no idea what Beri's doing.

>>105686221
no it’s an obvious lie she told to relate to her loser petal cucks

>>105686221
I believe it. They were simply too intimidated.

peke noise bring me happiness

>>105686253
sounds about right, still taller than that fat lady behind her

* Waddles in *

You guys just ever....

>>105686270
>retarded schizo cuck still seething
lmao

>>105686308
fat vei my beloved

>>105686252
the first one looks so goofy

jesus I didn't know rain was hot
https://youtube.com/shorts/zzFzCZbKBNs?si=zNNXVof9KBnNC-8O

>>105686253
>even in her cosplay heels I'd still be taller than her
nice

pepe so cute kek

Henya is talking about the two weirdo from yesterday

>>105686521
>two weirdo
?

>>105686521
the what

>>105686449
Connor could have had this but he chose a sickly bedridden latina instead...

>>105686176
>She really is just a smol wolf girl.
That makes her ideal for a princess carry. She said she’s never been carried that way and would love to be.

>>105686308
ever just pick you up and kiss you in the forehead? absolutely!!!

>>105686558
>>105686576
Some guy asked Henya, Ari, and Haruka who he should goon to. He had a thousand-yard stare and didn’t look all there, probably on drugs.It made Henya really uncomfortable apparently

>>105684472
I wanna dive in like scrooge mcduck

>>105686612
Classic, more pandering to her retarded audience. They will believe anything

>>105686656
>more retarded schizo babble
*yawn*

>>105686646
Sounds like another schizo that twitch shouldn't have let in

>>105686656
If she dated scrawny guys before, it’s believable they never managed to do it right. Most women like being carried that way.

>>105686646
For those interested heres the timestamp
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2595451942?t=2h3m39s

LOVE MY WOLF WIFE

>>105686646
>>105686728
and I was away when that was happening. what the actual fuck, jesus christ.

>>105686646
>>105686728
I blame dan clancy

Classic beri

>>105686728
Is he Zen fan?

Saii raided Henya

>>105686580
rain talks about her bloody asshole too much

>>105686449
>multiple comments referring to Giri as Oni
fucking tourists

>>105686728
I wonder if he was streaming on Kick.

>>105686728
>https://youtube.com/shorts/zzFzCZbKBNs?si=zNNXVof9KBnNC-8O


Wouldn't have happened if Zen was there. But guess who broke up with her.

>>105686646
I hate creepy gooners

>>105686809
no
>>105686847
or IP2

>>105686728
dude looks high af, strikes me immediately as a kick streamer

>>105686449
anon let me show you this one
https://files.catbox.moe/hauvm1.mp4

Tori got banned from streaming on tiktok in 2 streams.

I regret ever thinking sinder was the well-adjusted wolf vtuber and silver was the menhera one, it was clearly the reverse

>>105686958
FUCK YOU SLEEPY

>>105686970
huh, for what?

>>105686970
Wait what happened?

In all the pics I’ve seen of Silver during this twitchcon, she has two stares
It's either
>tired
or
>crazy
I think both are hot, but it's just a bit concerning.

>>105686958
Holy sex.

>>105686970
qrd?

Beri just mentioned this lol

>>105687007
I mean she's been quite busy the past few days so tired makes sense

>>105687007
I think she looks kind doesnt strike me as scary

>>105686792
AIEEEEE HUMAN BERI

>>105687080
>you know you, screw you *unbuggs your bugga*

>>105686970
TikTok has a weird grudge against vtubers

>>105687007
I'd look like that too after a 500 people m&g 2 days back to back.

>>105686999
>>105687001
>>105687018
no reason provided, just banned. someone in chat claims they've brought a rule against streaming without an irl face recently

>>105687137
She doesn't look tired in a lot of those, just crazy...

>>105687113
It's okay she has human feet and tits now so it's not all bad.

>>105687007
mouth being covered hides a lot of the expression

>>105687007
She seems more tired, possibly her eyes are just like that, or I get it
>jetlagged
>12 hours spend in a cosplay in a convention
>has to talk to so many people
>>105687187

>>105687187
>2 arms
DROPPED

how do we save henya?

>>105687169
it's not good for your mental seething that much, you know

>>105687155
>give us your phone number to verify your account
>show your face
>show your id
Grim

>>105687155
>rule against streaming without an irl face
bruh, what a retarded rule.

>>105687247
And this is with a 1k raid from saiiren
grim...

>>105687301
Wait until you figure out why that's happening.

>>105687247
>>105687335
take it to your containment thread please

>>105687335
mi

>>105687371
is it something something politics related?

Did Michi attend TwitchCon?

>>105687215
Why you showing vei's tombstone

>>105687433
Yes.

>>105687433
with numi, yes.

>>105687397
you missed one

Beri watched the concert with a friend and her little sister
The kid called them screensgers because they were watching some stuff that n their phone about the concert. Two tax paying adults got torched by a little kid

>>105687705
Then they asked her how old she thought they were and she guessed Beri was 54 years old

>>105687705
The PS4 is older than this kid that's a crazyass thought

>>105687425
Of course.
>A year ago, Oracle cofounder and chairman Larry Ellison described a future where everyone, including law enforcement, will face regular surveillance as daily life is documented seemingly nonstop.
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/

Tori is finally playing Doom again.

>>105687803
will probably quit the internet and be a farmer or housewife (male) in a remote area if that happens

>>105687007
I think she's just out of practice for taking pictures. I mean, she hasn't been out of her house that much for five years.

>>105687247
2k+ does not saving. Neither does 1k+. 3view is the needs saving territory.

>>105687803
Seems bad

>>105686750
https://files.catbox.moe/kk50rw.mp4

got this video on my recommended tab from noobl, pretty good one lol
https://youtu.be/Sw-PihKOrb4

>>105686728
Ari really navigated that situation well.

>>105684472
Slop that one

Henya hates cilantro

>>105688059
based
>futa
BASED

>>105688207
She's just like me

>>105686958
how the fuck did mouse win?

>>105686280
i believe it because its too absurd and impossible to not be true. you honestly think anyone would think that anyone let alone five schmucks would be willing to not latch on to those funbags and only able to be removed using the jaws of life would be a believable lie.

Mel live on twitch/fansly.

Mel live

>>105688321
She didn't. Rain and Connor fuck in secret.

>>105688519
sleepy actually

>>105684994
We all do

>>105688321
Latina vs Dutch.

>>105687688
freaky ass momo

>>105688096
lol when they got VShojo

Henya said someone in her city was eaten by bear

>>105688930
Yeah me

>>105688634
I don't think shibari is notably freaky and it hasn't been in decades. My mom worse a costume that was basically a bodysuit with ropes overtop to a work party recently, for example.

>>105689066
Anon, I have some bad news about your mom.

>>105689066
Your mom's a slut, damn that sounds hot.

>People attacking Mouse for uploading her video of twitch con
If it isn't one thing it's another one...

>>105687938
well she did say if twitchcon goes well she will go to other cons so maybe she will be more practiced next time
not that her current pics are bad or anything
the ones where she has those tired eyes activate my saviorfag instinct

Goth Mel is cute.

>>105689255
we arent going to look at your 10 follower twitter account anon

I pray to God someone has a soundboard of the Ironmouse concert. The stream was so choppy and the audio was for shiiiiit.

>>105689311
mogged

>>105689311
>1m

>>105689311
Zen?

>>105689418
i am unemployed

>>105688575
is it weird that I want to fuck connors peach ass and im straight?

>>105684711
Harem Chad checked

I wanna see Mouse

>>105689370
>The stream was so choppy and the audio was for shiiiiit.
I had 0 problems did you even refresh?

>>105684711
I can't believe you hate Victoria Roman

>>105689535
Learn to read

>>105689508
I was trying to screen cap the VOD. I will just have to wait for a silver lining when the VOD is taken offline.

Mel reminding me I should rewatch Over the Garden Wall for spooky month.

>>105689741
classic Momo

>>105689311
https://x.com/Ophimon/status/1979351948739645600
https://files.catbox.moe/tln4ye.jpeg

geega i miss you

>>105689741
>2022
>michi debuted in 2024

fake ass momo

>>105689418
>>105689451
I sometmies manage to snipe tweets like 5 seconds after posting becasue I was browsing tweeter when the tweet was made

Would you eat at Henya's restaurant that serves microwave burger?

>>105689923
>microwave burger
That's just Burger King. So no.

This but Zen

>>105685746
I dont remember posting this, but i am glad twitchcon went well for her and she is able to relax. i want to hold her close and let her know how precious she is and everything will be okay. then give those wonderful funbags the attention they deserve and afterward hand feeding her jerky while letting her know she is a very good girl.

>>105687067
yes, yes she does

>>105689575
I didn't know there was a team Doki
Good for her I guess, she'll always be a plus in my heart.

>>105689354
Nah it's the comments of her Twitchcon vid. The person managing the channel titled the video dumbly given what happened and it is attracting retards in the comments

>>105690360
>The person managing the channel titled the video dumbly

where the dumb part? People are just shitty.

dead thread

>>105690510
Because Twitch and Twitchcon has a very negative reputation atm, for obvious reasons, and the title makes it sound Mouse makes it sound she is excited /thankful for Twitch inviting her. Yes, people are dumb. Smart people would anticipate dumb people's reaction and adjust accordingly. You aren't very smart, apparently.

>>105690510
I mean if you are gonna upload the IRL the longer you wait its gonna be worse imo

damn

>kool aid mouth
Yeah I see it kek.

What is she doing right now

>>105691457
Kek

>>105691304
>alil overstimulating
Yeah, going from essentially being by yourself halfway around the world to meeting all the vtubers and streamers in person has got to be quite the experience.

>>105691457
>magical girl henya

>>105691457
damn, in 2 years AI will replace most chuubas

>>105691295
Finding a way to replace Dan

>>105691457
The saba killer

What do you use to animate pic?

>>105691726
Some said grok but not sure how they made it animated

>>105691565
I already have a 5 year plan that involves my own AI Nyanners.
I am prepared for the future.

>>105691791
thats how evil nyan was made

How do we stop ironmouse?

>Grape raided Mel
That's unusual.
>she got who'd by Mel
That's expected honestly.

>>105691726
grok image to vid.

Things will get better

>>105691915
>immediately makes a dragon car fucking joke

>>105691791
do you remember what happened with previous AI Nyanners? Do you????

>>105691982
Mel's method of flirting is... unusual.

>>105691915
Now she knows who Grape is. That's how networking works.

>>105691304
did she end up on any streams or pics?

>>105692043
Yeah, I saw Grape stay active in Mel's chat for a while too. I can already see a collab in the future.

>>105691565
Vtubers like Henya will be the most replaceable by AI. Vtubers like Michi will be harder to replace.

>Mel wants to get into 3D printing
She doesn't know what she's getting herself into.

>>105692003
It had to be done she was getting too powerful

>>105691791
My Nyanners AI is defective. It keeps talking about caged micropenises

>>105692003
You mean the one Nyan had to lobotomized when it said "im nyatasha" thinking its the real nyanners?

>>105692228
uhh anon that one isnt an AI

>>105692246
It actually was the real one that died. The current Nyan was an AI all along

>>105692228
Sounds like it's working to me

>>105692184
How much would she charge for printing a 1:1 scale of my penis and use it?

>>105692305
That explains why ghost witch is gone too

>>105692179
>Vtubers like Michi will be harder to replace.
Only until someone makes an AI Mono

>>105692246
almost. she burned her

Well now I see why she wants to get into 3D printing if this is her inspiration.

>>105692301
I guess that explains why it keeps spying on me at night

Do you have to pay for Grok Imagine? I haven't used it, but I see the page mentions credits and subscriptions.

Mel is going to be in a charity DnD stream with Vex later this week.

>>105692369
Thats the aftermath of the lobotomy

>>105692336
I honestly doubt she would charge for something like that.

>>105692442
>Using AI to animate Nyan killing her AI clone
This is getting kind of trippy

>>105692179
Michi's character has become yuribaiter and that's easy for AI to replicate

>>105692442
best anime of 2025 right here

>>105692405
it's free, but probably not for long

Barefoot elektrik is happy she's being mentioned in thread but she might be leaving Zen's stream team for disrespecting her husband in patreon night.

>>105692528
it's just that michifag who has been trying to pit her against henya since debut
insane sea behavior

>>105692619
It must be the same schizo who keeps trying to numberfag Henya in this thread

>>105692657
different one, this one exposed himself on 8 during the hack

Good night
dream with Mouse

>>105692782
ugh...

>>105692782
Fuck off

>>105692782
cringe

>>105692782
a better pairing than purple yuri

>>105692782
kek

>>105692782
Based Mono

>>105692850
>>105692901
fuck you mono you will never be aethel

donde esta mi puta

>>105692963
Mono will be even better

>>105692336
This will bring cock ratings to a whole new level.

Mel being enamored by boomboxes and laserdiscs is making me turn into dust.

i do wonder if cozy wolf does get enough compliments on it, if she might add the funbag mole to her models.

>>105692968
giving refunds

>Mel finally got sponsored by Proton VPN like she wanted
>she forgot her password so she can't even use it
sasuga Mel

>>105693181
I thought of that too. Might be worth suggesting it to her in the right channels but it might also be too personal for her.

>Mel lost ALL OF HER PASSWORDS
Mel what the fuck man

>>105693352
her brain numb from all the gooning over the past decades

>>105693074
It makes me genuinely proud.
I want everyone of her generation and before to realize just how good we had it and demand we get it back. Nobody is going to listen to us old folk who grew up with it. But they'll listen to everybody young demanding that they get the good stuff back.

>>105693388
they are made for each other

>>105693427
amen brother

>>105693352
She keeps them all in a physical book so if she loses that, then she loses all of them. She'll probably find it again.

Tori is way too retarded for Doom. And that's a game where you don't need to think.

>>105693058
you send her 3d model of your dick, she use it for dildo replacement, she rate your dick based on that.

>>105692405
>Do you have to pay for Grok Imagine?
You can generate something like 50 free videos a day though it does count moderated attempts toward that. I definitely haven't used multiple accounts to try and make anime girls do lewd things.

I'm confused. Is Michi dating Mono or Numi?

>>105693608
neither, but mono wishes

>>105693534
Anon is living in the future.

>>105693524
It really is some dogwater gameplay. I'm assuming she doesn't play FPS's at all with a performance like this lol

>>105693608
Michi is bi. She's dating both.

Mel just sounds sleepy.

>>105693608
She is dating Numi but Mono is trying to sabotage purple yuri
Notice how Mono does not interact with Numi at all? For some of Michi's other close friends he does interact with them occasionally

>>105693307
proton has password manager. they should sponsor that.

>>105693691
Not really but she put her serious voice on because she's talking about something important to her so it does sound lower now.

>>105693743
All is fair in love and war

>>105693608
She is dating Meicha but we are not ready for that twist yet.

>>105693892
Wrong. Mei is dating Froggy

>>105693892
Who is Henya dating?

>>105693923
Heavenly

>>105693923
Pete

>>105693923
her mom

>>105693923
Connor-san

>>105693608
>He doesn't know
Mouse called her darling and had three performances with her at the concert for a reason.

>>105693923
me

Tori just said Doom 2016 is almost a decade old and I was about to call her dumb but oh my god she's right

>>105694051
i am dust...

>>105692782
ewww this dude is a creep

romantic partner

>>105693923
Ari

I'm going to need Tori to stop referring to Doom 2016 as an older game and insinuating her issues with it are because of newer hardware not playing nice

Mono strikes me as a bisexual that will never get a GF because he's cringe but will get a BF that only allows him to bottom.

Anon strikes me as someone obsessed and still talking about an hour old post but without bothering to reply to it anymore

>>105694232
This shouldnt be allowed but go on continue

what is your favorite piece of fanart

Henya strikes me as a bisexual that will never get a GF because she doesn't go outside and is too socially awkward to talk to stranger

>>105694449
Any that has geega

>>105694492
She just like me fr fr

Giantess org. The next prompt is "Hidden" I don't know what to do

Nyan strikes me as a bisexual that will never get a BF because she's socially awkward but will get a GF that only allows her to bottom.

>>105693923
A White dude

>>105694569
99% real

Matara strikes me as token straight white girl that will never find a husband because the momos are her husbands and that is why they are in the cuck chair watching a jort wearing nightlord simp blow her back out at every con

>>105694569
skill issue on her part desu

>>105694569
I know you're meming, but women don't forgive awkward behavior. Awkward bis end up with men.

>>105694417
Okay.

>>105694680
Layna...

>using slave labour to take down her booth
ruthless business woman

>>105694809
holy simps

>>105694809
Only thing Geeggers(hard r) are good for

>>105694857
For the momos yes
For the geegooners this is just part of a multi-year plan to benefit themselves following in similar footsteps to their oshi

>>105694809
geegoids you were supposed to be better than this...

>>105694809
later that day half merch and booth pieces are on ebay

Oscar passed out lol

>>105694941
Lack of geega is doing this to them

>>105694232
>>105694731

>>105695138
He's cute, but I wanna see a femboy like that.

>>105693743
Mono does seem a bit laser-focused on Michi now that you've mentioned it.

>>105695381
he was unironically psychotic during the subathon. if he's not already dating her then i hope he takes the rejection well assuming she does

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>>105695521
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>>105695492
He serves as the standard for describing the school shooter.

>>105693776
Serious voice sounds sleepy
What is the serious moment about? Is it about wearing pants?

>>105695655
well said

>>105675429
we know you're having a melty, you don't need to announce it.
>>105677720
sinder is, yes.

>>105678005
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>>105684012
and there's the retarded silverschizo melty, classic.

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>>105684796
and meltdown haver is spiraling again lmao.

>>105684381
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>>105686270
and it's another retarded schizo melty.

>>105686750
Buy an ad, whocuck.

>>105688059
>>105688275
Cringe and off topic.

>>105686656
>>105687169
and it's another retarded schizo melty lmao.

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>>105697343
u mad boi? nice melty you got there

>>105697403
>says the one who has a melty

>>105697403
u mad because u got called out nice melty having boi?