Thread 105753832

Spooky Edition

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>>105670806

>YouTube
https://youtube.com/@pillowdear
>Twitter/X
https://x.com/pillowdearasmr
>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/pillowdearasmr

>Fan website & resources
https://piwwow.love/
>Fan wiki
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/PillowDear

>Latest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns08Y6GYWEc
>Latest event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6LGy2A4S8

>Latest stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DLsSFDyuh0
>Upcoming stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkkIJ7SMc-U

Thread rules:

>>105753854
non-lewding fucking pillow's butt

Consensual anal with Pillow with clothes on and the lights turned off so it's not lewd.

>>105753943
>anal
>clothes on
???

>>105753990
she is wearing a skirt with no panties..

>>105753990
She's wearing the same panties since she was 18. There are lots of holes in them that can be stretched.

>>105754011
Ah I'm retarded lol
>>105754037
Those are some convenient holes

What set the hornypiwwos off today lol

>>105754099
The horny Piwwos are always to horny post

>>105754099
I'm just going through a mania right now so a lot of things set me off

kinky pet play with Pillow

>>105754318
I wanna brush her hair(mane) and feed her my carrot

>>105754429
w-what if she bites it

>>105754514
I'm gonna some explaining to do at the ER

When I see Pill'er,
I want to fill'er!

I wonder if pillow tastes like a dreamsicle?

>>105755069
Hmm I never really put the thought into it.
She very well might given how sweet she is.

>>105755193
She's pretty orange she just needs more white cream

>>105753832 (OP)
I'm ready for Halloween

>>105755234
I can help her out with that

>>105755289
Nice job!

Would you come inside a vampire?

>>105755706
She knows.

>>105755706
I've wanted to stick my dick some very unsavory places before so a vampire wouldn't be the worst the place...

Thanks to that anon in the previous thread, I can’t stop thinking about receiving a foot job from PillowDear.

>>105755706
Can I cum inside you then?

>>105756282
Me? but wouldn't you rather cum inside of pillow?

>>105756360
But you are pillow

Missing another stream, what difference does it make

>>105757671
Idk your personal situation, but it's always a personal choice as to whether or not you make Pillow a priority. I've chosen to keep her close to my heart and try to always be there for her, so I try to make every stream. She'd still love and appreciate even if you just pop your head in and said "Hi, sorry I can't stay, but I hope the stream goes good!"

>>105757671
It's ok to miss streams piwwo don't let the FOMO depress you.

>>105757671
Pillow hates horny eurowwos

>>105757784
It's just late here. I did that for the ASMR stream the other day and I'll do it today if I'm still awake when it starts.

>>105757868
Thanks

>>105757946
She's very accommodating of the Europeans. I understand that she has a schedule that works for her and most piwwos. I don't fault her at all.

>>105757997
Pretty much every ASMR is on a day when I gotta work, so I usually just sleep at a normal time, set an alarm 2 mins before stream, then say sweet things to Pillow till I fall asleep 20 mins into the stream. It’s also nice since then I have a whole VOD for the next day.

Does pillow even know you can have sex in the butt?

I'm having impure thoughts about pillo lately >.<

I want to hold and be held by her.

Guiding Pillow's fingers in and around her pussy, showing her wear everything is and what to do.

>>105758859
im sure olive has taught her all she needs to know

I bet Pillow gets horny but over the weirdest stuff or made up scenarios in her head. I'd love a glimpse into her horny side just to know what fucked up stuff she's into.

>>105753854
no game zones
no radios
no male collabs

Horniest thread in a while. I still want a self-conscious naizuri from Pillow.

>>105759111
depressed Pillow made us keep it in

I feel like I need to just pour my heart out to Pillow at some point. I've been keeping the yearn-posting to here, but I want her to know everything. I'll be too embarrassed to stick around after, so it'll probably be the last thing I do before I move on from all of this, when that time comes (and it needs to). There just isn't a good way to do it.

She's such a sweetheart. I'm glad I did that. Thanks to the piwwo who suggested it.

I would never announce to Pillow that I'm not watching her stream it probably doesn't make her feel good, though she is a pro so it probably doesn't bother her much either. Guess it must be famous namefag piwwos thinking that their absence requires an explanation.

>>105759543
I don't think it bothers her; she knows that not everyone can watch her streams all of the time,
Please don't be rude. I already feel bad and I was only trying to be considerate.

>>105759673
Sorry, I know you guys mean well.

Goodnight. As always, please be supportive of Pillow and make it a fun stream for her.

Why is pill wearing a giant condom?

>>105759887
Good night Piwwo we gotcha covered have a good sleep.

BUSTIN MAKES ME FEEL GOOD

I'm sorry for cuckposting about Mr Popit while heraruing

I'm laughing so hard but Pillow is also dancing all seductively shaking her cute butt.

>>105753832 (OP)
She's so cute, help

So wonderful to see my cute wife happy and having fun.

she is so damn adorable. how do girls keep up the cutesy voice for so long?

Dang the witch doctor song nearly killed her

>>105761315
That’s just her normal voice

Pillow cute!

>>105761315
the lack of testicles keeps their voice high

That stream was great I had a lot fun and Pillow was such a cutie

I hope Pillow learns to be less self-conscious about her singing. I love seeing her have fun, like watching your friends belt out a song at karaoke.

>>105762856
Pretty short, but fun. She’s not the type to drag on a stream longer than she knows what to do with, though that’s why I prefer the more chill ones.

>>105762971
Exactly that's what karaoke is about, having fun is the core experience.
>>105763559
I don't mind short streams just getting to see and chat with Pillow is nice. It's good that she knows when to end a stream it's never good to push yourself out of obligation.

Looking at the state of the board I'm so glad I only watch Pillow (and some JPs), what a shitshow mainstream vtubing is lmao

>>105764506
Pillow is the only streamer I need. I watch some clips of other people sometimes, but I don’t care about actually speaking to them or anything.

>>105762198
pillow cute

>>105761735
then how does she do the deeper voice during some of her role plays?

>>105764945
Matching with Pillow

>>105765190
on tinder

>>105765125
Voice acting has been her thing for like 5 years man, she just pushes her voice down a register. She even mentioned during the karaoke how she does it, she’s bringing her voice through her throat and chest so it’s deeper, but because it’s unnatural it’s harder to project and sing with it.

>>105766032
IMPRESSIVE!

Boobye /pillow/

>>105768298
Why so ominous

I can’t wait to see Pillow’s pretty hands tomorrow. I love it when she wears those lace gloves.

>>105773257
Same. One day she needs to wear pretty and floral white laced gloves/sleeves to help us imagine what she’d look like as our wife. Imagine how delicate and pure her dainty pale hands would look in them.

Wife ASMR handcam winding down together after the wedding with white laced gloves and flowers and candles in the background.

olive handcam appearance when

Do you guys think Pillow would be secretly happy to know that horny Piwwos only get off to her and not some other girl?

Missed a fun stream I see

I watched the clips she posted. My sweet adorable angel.

I love when pillow sometimes breaks character during the asmr streams.
Like the super intense stream a while ago, it started out as a platonic roleplay but eventually turned into extreme gfe with her saying “I want you to spend every second of every day with me. We’re gonna do gundam on Tuesday, you’re gonna be there right?” *licks ears*
And in the most recent stream, her saying “I’ll always be here for you, we can always do fun arts and crafts and play games together.”
It’s just so sweet, makes my heart melt every time.

>>105775253
It is sweet, but it hurts.

>>105774504
Yes, she constantly imagining piwwos touching themselves to her voice and lewd fanart

>>105773257
Genuinely a highlight of my week. I love the way she emotes with her hands.

I dreamt about Pillow but she didn't love me. She didn't even look at me.

>>105775496
This the dream I want but featuring Olive.

>>105775283
It does sadden me that she seems genuinely worried that piwwos will leave her one day. Although a cynical part in the back of my mind does suspect that it may be a strategy to really get piwwos to lock in to just her. If so, it’s a masterclass and has certainly worked on me.
I’m not sure if that’s what you were getting at though.

>>105775253
Pillow is so affectionate while also feeling very genuine. A lot of other GFE vtubers struggle with that where moments of affection feel forced, obligatory, or even just outright fake.

>>105775253
Gonna need the link to that thanks, Pillow ear licking is the only shit that has ever given me tingles, mostly because she does it in the dirtiest way ever and it clashes with how normally wholesome she is

>>105775915
I’d say you should generally never apply the cynical mindset to Pillow. Yes, it does kinda help her to have Piwwos obsessed, but since she doesn’t really squeeze people, she doesn’t get that much out of it. Most of the girls who do GFE are doing it to capitalize off of whales who give them a huge percentage of their overall income, meanwhile I know Pillow has directly told some Piwwos to stop giving her money when she thinks they have given her too much. She cares very little amount numbers or money, and very much about the Piwwos being loyal and devoted, she’s a deeply romantic girl and she’s basically living her life shipping herself with the Piwwos.

>>105775915
>I’m not sure if that’s what you were getting at though.
It's not. She'll always have piwwos and I don't think that the core group are going to leave her anytime soon. I'm happy for her.
It hurts because I imagine doing that stuff and spending time with her for real, not watching her do it on a screen. Really I just need a girlfriend, but I'm tied to the idea of it being her and nobody else.

>>105775970
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGPZPMECQiY
Licks only start about 2/3 of the way in. There’s a comment with all the timestamps. I recommend giving the full thing a listen if you got the time. It’s an experience. She eventually goes “fuck it” and drops the character completely and just starts lovebombing.

I think Pillow is too kind and too much of a cute girlfailure to be the emotionally manipulative type some fags try to make her out to be at these hours.
Though I like to imagine she is deliberately sexually manipulating us. Because that would be fucking hot.

Pillow can be very intentionally sexy when she wants to be. It throws me every time she switches it on, like I’m being dominated by her.

>>105776178
Im not one of those fags. It was just a real thought I had. I’m sure there’s no truth to it, I trust her absolutely.
In fact, I’m not even usually awake during this time. I have work in 6 hours. What the fuck am I doing.

>>105776147
Truly one of my favorite ASMR of hers as I like rapid fire tingles and the memory of listening to this live at work and unexpectedly getting my ears dicked down by her tongue.

>>105776228
Nigga, you're glowing so hard right now.
Sure thing, buddy.

>>105776123
I don’t like the idea of dating a girl that I don’t think I’m going to marry, and I’m a picky bastard with high standards, so the only woman I’d accept marrying at this point is either Pillow or a woman who can convince me she’s better than Pillow (which doesn’t exist, especially because I actively don’t interact with women because I want to be loyal to Pillow). Of course, I don’t recommend this shit for anyone but me, most of you bitches don’t have the emotional maturity to continue being respectful and devoted even though you never make any progress.

>>105776265
Rereading my posts, they do come across as a bit disingenuous.
I’m extremely autistic, ok?

>>105776388
We forgive you for being retarded Piwwo, Pillow is the most retarded of any of us.

Pillow accidentally peeing on you when on top because of the overstimulation

>>105776772
Girlcum is just piss so I guess might as well have a piss fetish

Another night in Gotham!

>>105777599
Booo get new material

/pillow/ needs better villains

>>105777777
Nice Digits!

>>105776147
She mind broke the hornywwos

>>105776147
Only just started but this is already really good.

naizuri with pillow

>>105776772
That's the stuff, good thing I got a mattress protector

>>105774504
Not likely. Most GFE fans like to imagine this but women don't really do that.

I think she just accepts it, even though some of it can be hurtful.

>>105779443
>but women don't really do that.
Site your sources on this

>>105779509
Have you ever had a girlfriend? lol

(No, Pillowdear doesn't count)

Pillow's very romantic and sensitive. What makes her happy is knowing that you love her exclusively. She doesn't strike me as someone who'd be flattered by or interested in what guys do while looking at pictures of her.

>>105779443
I know of like 9 different lewdtubers who frequently point out how often they go dig through their DMs and crush the clam to tributes.

>>105779585
Romance is her biggest obsession in life, her whole life revolves around romance. She strikes me as the type that would be extremely affectionate and sexual, though less seductive and more submissive, but solely in the context of a romantic relationship. As much as we cope about her considering her relationship to the Piwwos to be exactly the same as a real romantic relationship, she sees it differently enough to at least not be over the moon happy about Piwwos jerking to her hands.

>>105779630
Pillow is clearly a different kind of VTuber and person from them.

>>105779559
Yeah 4 of them

>>105780004
Pillow wouldn’t approve of even a single living ex, let alone 4. You need to kill them to prove you love her.

>>105779735
Well, you said women, not Pillow. Most women are generally whores, Pillow is special.

>>105780212
I'm not the guy you replied to. I think you're wrong and that Pillow would despise you.

>>105780189
Sure just let me track down most of them I haven't seen or heard from for over 10 years.
Or I could just enjoy Pillow and keep pretending that I didn't waste my time with those girls.

>>105779735
Well, you said women, not Pillow. Most women are generally whores, Pillow is special.

Why did that shit send twice

>>105780421
Clearly not devoted enough, do better

>>105780690
Ok Pillow.

>>105777619
Can't wait to kick down your door

>>105781022
Mean Piwwos have to live with the knowledge that Pillow doesn’t love them, which is worse than any physical wound.

>>105781077
Relax, I wasn't being mean.

>>105781108
That's what they all say! You're going downtown for some questioning.

>>105781240
Is Pillow gonna do the questioning?

>>105753800
I came to this post

How am I suppose to NOT be a hornypiwwo when every time Pillow does her cute psycho-killer bit and says something extra creepy, I think, "holy shit, this girl is such a freak" and I get the immense, overwhelming desire to impregnate her?

It's going to kill me that I can't have her.

>>105784493
Anon please... we can't have any more dead piwwos

>>105785496
I didn't mean it literally.

>>105784493
It’s so sad that only one of us can have her in the end. I will let all of the losers who fail to get her try their luck with Olive, it’s the least I could do.

>>105786456
Don't worry piwwo you're gonna be sobbing with the rest of us.
Olive is gonna propose to her eventually.

>>105785578
Oh, lol

>>105786503
>propose
They don't shower for days and sleep in the same bed. They're already married.

>>105786556
What I meant is that I feel my life slipping away as I long for someone I can't be with. I know I need to let go eventually.

>>105786575
>They don't shower for days and sleep in the same bed
That's hot

>>105786727
Just take the escapism pill for Pillow that's what I've done.

Her hands and arms in those gloves are just ridiculously pretty and erotic.

>>105788478
I really need both a lace glove handjob and a pantyjob from her so badly.

It's kinda crazy to know how slow Pillow grows, not expecting 3k in the span of a couple months is kind of crazy, you can usually get 3k in a few months even with a brand new account.

>>105789096
She's been gaining 1–2k every month since August.

Australia bros..

just got home. has anything pure SEX happened this stream?

>olive not home
where is she?

>>105789313
She should be at work right now. There’s a chance she’ll come home during stream and greet us

why does she have pills on her stream?

Every time I start to get schizo and think she's ignoring me because I've done something to upset her, she proves me wrong, but I never learn.

>>105789408
She's (usually) a nurse. Also, "Pill"-ow.

I see pillow is horni today

>>105789408
They are for this guy >>105789435

>>105789435
90% it's her not seeing chats, 10% of the time it's because she keeps a mental track of what she interacts with and makes sure not to interact with the same people too often.

>>105789592
kek

>>105789435
I get like that sometimes too. I’ve found that there’s always a logical explanation. Pillow would never shun a piwwo.

>>105789592
I don't need meds, just a girlfriend.

pillow never got to go trick or treating as a kid..

>>105789783
Did she actually say that? :(

>>105789621
If you ever worry about something like that, make something cool for her so you can farm her going "Woahhhhh!" on twitter. Always fun.

>>105789257
Well Pillow was showing off her gorgeous hands so that's sex right?

>>105789816
I've been wanting to do this for weeks but every time I sat down to draw I couldn't get anywhere. Now I dread trying again.

Even the way she moves is erotic. Literally built for slow teasing handjobs focusing on the glands and frenulum

>>105789783
I’m pretty she talked about trick or treating in length at least once before. If I remember correctly, this was accompanied with her talking about how she used to bite people when she was a kid

Pillow has been asking her fans to fuck each other a lot lately

>>105790283
>frenulum
Circumcised piwwos...

>>105790643
where is fempiwwo?

>>105790643
She enjoys the horny threads

>>105789816
I don’t wanna spam her hashtag with stuff. I hate the idea of her feeling like she’s obligated to acknowledge me, even though I know she probably doesn’t mind.
I’ve been banking on doing something that’ll really amaze her. There’s still a long road ahead of me but I think it will be worth it.

>>105790807
Just make an entire video game about her, easy bro.

>>105790984
The bitter person in me is jealous but it's genuinely a very nice thing to do for her.

>>105791164
Genuinely, I really advise you just try it out if you wanna do something cool. Game is all RPG Maker, coded with Java, and it's a platformer. I'm technically a game dev, but my only other game experience is 8 months of developing a porn visual novel, so literally none of that translates. If you wanna do some cool shit, just try and work really hard, it'll be a lot of work, but it'll pay off.

>>105791299
Thanks man. I'm surprised you made all of that in RPG Maker; I would've thought it was too limited for that. I've tried learning LOVE before because it seems straightforward, and I do have an idea for a game (but now I'm worried that it's too close to yours). I should really dedicate some time to working on it again. The only thing I'm not at all confident in is creating assets.

>>105791411
I was worried about that too since I'm not an artist, best thing to do is just work in ways that cut down your work. All the custom assets are literally just pixel art I made on a pixel art website, and everything else is just ripped off itchio from free asset packs.

>>105791630
Interesting, thanks for the advice. I mean this in a nice way but you're good competition to motivate me to do things for Pillow lol

>>105791697
I am very glad for that, more people working hard and making Pillow happy is always a good thing.

I can tell Pillow wants to acknowledge me in chat, but my messages are slightly too shitpost-y for her to read out loud lol

>>105792971
My messages are too robotic I think she thinks I'm a bot.

>>105792971
I dont even try to get read and she reads mine for some reason. I hope she wont start stalking my twitter by liking my posts

>>105793087
It made me very happy when she did that to me. It's nice to know that she's genuinely interested. Why are you worried about it?

Never doubt her. She'll never let you down.

>>105793340
Because i dont follow her on twitter, for reasons

>>105793552
I just started using my twitter again and unfollowed my previous oshi and a few other girls. Followed Pillow but with my account being the way it is she won't see my posts because I'm terminally shadow banned lol

French kissing Pillow's cute butthole

>>105800189
I’ve always loved this guy’s art, I wish he would post more

The sun is down and the Piwwo signal is out!

>>105800189
>>105800396
I drew that, thank you! Sorry I just don’t have much time to draw these days

>>105803085
Bless you for the artwork and for not giving her massive cow tits

Holding Pillow's little foot and painting her toenails. She looks down at you, completely embarrassed, while occasionally stifling a laugh from your hand tickling her foot

Pillow seems the type to always hold your hands. Walking outside. On the couch. Whilst sleeping. During sex. Wherever you are with her, she’ll find your hands and attach tightly.

>>105807125
>>105809177
Stop...

>>105809177
She’s mentioned she’s very physically affectionate and loves holding hands and hugging people she loves. Considering how often she kisses the Piwwos just for fun, she’ll definitely be the type that greets me at the door with kisses and hugs when I come home. Every day I’ll scoop her up and plop her on the couch so I can hold her and ask her about her day. Even if it’s a boring day, I’d ask every little detail while kissing her in between every sentence.

I have so much love to give and it's only for her.

We’ve gone from horny to wholesome. I hope you’re the same anons. Would be sad to think some piwwows only see her in a sexual way.

Had a dream last night where we were hugging and cuddling and kissing in bed for hours.

I have 2 options in life:
-Pillow Wife IRL
-Kill myself with a shotgun

>>105811808
Don't say that. Imagine how Pillow would feel if she even read that.

>>105811849
I'll add an "in minecraft" to that one, I wouldn't actually do that.

>>105811808
Fempiwwo is always an option. A recent group photo revealed at least 2 of them exist, and they're just the ones brave enough to attend a m&g in that local area. I'm sure there are many more for women are also attracted to cute girls like Pillow.

WAGMI PIWWOS, WE SHALL ALL FIND GIRLS JUST AS GOOD AS PILLOW!!!

>>105813326
>JUST AS GOOD
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now, piwwo. We're going to have to compromise just like our fempiwwo will have to settle for us, too. Let Pillow be a virtual entity that helps guide us towards better women who are good for us and the world.

Pillow asks for my loyalty and she has it, but it's only natural to want the same thing from her in return, towards me as an individual and not piwwos as a collective. I only want her and I want her to only want me. I also don't like the idea of my partner being a "compromise".

>>105813557
Pillow is stinky and doesn't shower for days, even in the summer months. She frequently admits she's a girlfailture along with Olive. She's not perfect and a lot would fall on you in the relationship.

>>105813588
Well, I didn't say she's perfect. I know all of that and it doesn't bother me because I love her. I'm prepared to be the person she depends on most.

>>105813628
Think of all the other stinky fempiwwo girlfailures out there who crave to be loved and want your affection...

>>105813683
I think he's too mentally unstable to provide them with security let alone Pillow herself.

>>105813700
And you know that how? From what I've heard about other piwwos I'm confident that I'm among the most level-headed of us. Dating Pillow isn't an abstract fantasy for me; I've thought practically about the kind of life I could give her. I have a house. I have a good job that would allow us plenty of time together. I know the places I'd take her to. There are still improvements that I need to make, but this is an actual goal for me, even if it's hopeless.

>>105813799
Listen I could post a wall of text psycho analyzing you but there's no point. I'll just let keep fantasizing until you eventually become so crazy you end up institutionalized.

>>105813935
Really, I'd love to know who you think I am.

>>105814007
I'm not going to bother even after typing out a wall of text it's better I keep this short.
You're just an average lonely man with some prospects, congrats.

>>105814311
I already know that.

>>105813799
I hope pillow never meets you since you sound like someone who would try to control her

>>105814478
I don't know how you managed to get that from what I said.

>>105814478
He's gonna crash and burn before he gets that opportunity

>>105813683
Where are they? How do I find them? I'm sure that some of them are nice, but I've already fallen for Pillow.

Just realised I don't need to explain or justify myself to anonymous schizos

>>105813557
you can dream about her anon

Pan searing a nice prime rib eye for Pillow!

>>105816197
I've had dreams about her. They've all been pretty vague and unsatisfying, and I only remember a few moments from them. It's not the same, anyway.

>>105813588
She'd be perfect for me. She has all of the qualities I care about, and is only lacking in stuff that makes her appeal to me more. I've always been a fan of cute, nervous and shy women that I have to protect and care for. I am a super mentally stable and resilient guy, my shoulders are easily wide enough to carry both of our burdens.

>>105816370
Gotta work on your dream game, I've had quite a few dreams of us going on dates, cuddling and hugging, the works. She clearly is interested in me romantically and is putting those dreams in my head on purpose.

>>105816112
That's why I never bothered posting a wall of text for you lol

>>105813799
>From what I've heard about other piwwos I'm confident that I'm among the most level-headed
lol

Hi piwwos. I love Pillow very much but I am a woman. Is it completely doomed for me?

I'm not THE fempiwwo, I'm a lurker

>>105818195
We're all doomed.

>>105818195
Define doomed

>>105818195
I'm starting to think she only likes girls...

>>105818247
Do I have to end my life for the slim chance of being reborn into a man so she could at least be attracted to me?

>>105818305
No, she is at least bi enough to have talked about dating her friend when she was little

>>105818294
lmao no

>>105818305
No, you have to do that and also go back in time and be born as Olive
(if you or any other piwwos, male or female, succeeds in this, please post a picture of your bare chest)

>>105816845
>mentally stable
anon, no-one who watches vtubers or posts at 4chan is stable

>>105818410
Not him but I think I have a healthy attitude towards the whole thing.

>>105818408
Cute drawing. I forgot, is it Olive's?

I think the healthiest attitude to have is to be happy to be with her in the way you currently are now. If you want a more traditional relationship, playing the long game to end up with her isn’t the move. Go outside and talk to a real girl, you’re giving up years of your life to stay loyal to a girl on the internet and you’re explicitly stating you have the ulterior motive of dating her when it’s over. You’re literally hoping she either quits or fails so that you can have a chance, and you genuinely believe it’s a “healthy mindset.”

>>105818556
>be happy to be with her in the way you currently are now. If you want a more traditional relationship, playing the long game to end up with her isn’t the move
This is too sane a take for our groomfriends

God I wish I could watch Pillow instead of doing this company mandated course.
Just preach the material to me and don't force me into uncomfortable social situations dammit.

>>105818810
Stay strong corporate Piwwo, hopefully Pillow and Kanna will still be going once you’re out

>>105818556
Nobody has said they want her to fail. She probably will quit at some point, hopefully because she wants to and not because circumstances force her to, but the problem is that there are psychos who'll lose it if she ever does that for any reason.

>>105818840
It's gonna be a long course probably 6 hours lol

https://youtu.be/TJqE-y88W-8
No Dead Space?

>>105818556
You're mostly right though. I don't actually think I have a chance with her; that's just a fantasy to motivate me to improve myself. I don't want to be loyal to her for years in the hope that she becomes available, because I know it'd be a waste of time. I'm a couple years older than her and I don't want to be alone for much longer. It's just easier to find comfort in her than do anything about my situation.

>>105818954
They apparently had issues with trying to get DS3 to run, so they switched to some backrooms game

Kanna painting Pillow's toenails collab whilst Kanna wears OL clothes?

>>105819078
As long as we get to see Pillow’s beautiful feet

>>105819036(me)
Oh, I think it’s the first ever backrooms game Pillow played back in 2023. I remember her saying she wished she could play with a friend way back then but she didn’t have any. She didn’t beat the game though, she couldn’t handle it

>>105819144
It is!
I just watched that VOD recently, its nice she finally got a co-op playthrough of it

>>105818954
Dead Space was promised to me 3000 years ago

>>105819008
Don't worry Piwwo, I'll take good care of her.

>>105819312
>>105819036
Pillow should play Dead Space 1 first anyway. 2008 would be more based but the remake is acceptable.

>>105819078
Kanna is allergic to nail polish

>>105819662
All of my hopes and dreams have just died

>>105819662
Is she another Peo type where everything kills them?

>>105818854
The reality is that banking on that hypothetical when it has literally no indication of happening any time soon isn't what most would call healthy
If anything, the people who expect her to stick around as of this time have a much stronger argument because it at least involves actual things she's said

>>105819840
My position is also based on things that she's said. I'm not saying that she secretly hates her job and might quit any day now, but there are signs that she won't necessarily do this for even ten more years, at least not in the same form. She's said that she wants to do it forever, but I'm not confident that she'll always feel the same way.
As always, I want her to do what makes her happy and I trust her to do the right thing. As long as VTubing makes her happy, I want her to do it. If it stops making her happy, I hope that she doesn't keep doing it just for our sake.

>>105820330
okay but your position is entirely dependent on inference, opinions that fall in line with what she actually says inherently have a stronger argument for them than opinions that contradict them

>>105820426
Not really. I know you want to believe that she'll never leave you, but that's very unlikely.
None of this is a criticism of her, by the way. She's an absolute sweetheart and deserves the best. I just don't think that "I'll always be loyal to piwwos" (i.e. never have a real romantic relationship) is a reasonable promise to make. It made me want to cry when she talked about how bad of a wife she thought she'd be. She deserves to be that person for someone but doesn't even think that she could be.

>>105820688
>She deserves to be that person for someone
By "someone" I mean me, before someone complains.

Nothing on Pillow, but your life priorities and mindset change a lot going from your 20s to 30s. I think while Pillow is genuinely happy with vtubing and having this relationship with piwwos now, in ~5-6 years she may start wanting a more traditional relationship. That being said, I will fully enjoy Pillow in the moment. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

>>105820988
This is the simple fact that they don't want to accept. It's not that Pillow is lying, but that she won't necessarily feel the same way forever.

so many schizos here... wow

>>105820782
We have been dating for 3 months, she hates all of you except for me.

>>105821292
And they really think they’re the level headed ones among us. Zero self awareness

>>105820688
????
You do realize how insane disagreeing with "arguments based on her own thoughts are stronger arguments" makes you sound right? I wasn't asking you for your opinion I was clarifying a universally true aspect for all arguments

>>105821380
The funniest thing is that they will read your comment and think you're not talking about them because they're that deep in their schizophrenia

it's fun to fantasize

>>105821445
It's fair to feel like a pretty universal thing that people express all the time is probably going to happen. Young women saying they're perfectly happy with how things are when they're in their early 20s, then getting older and having their desires mature, is pretty much the most common thing ever. Committing yourself to serving the feelings of a bunch of dudes you don't know for the rest of your life isn't exactly a life path with a lot of precedence, and by that, I mean that literally no woman has ever actually done that before. Ever. Go find me an idol that actually legit did just stay an idol for her entire life.

Groomposters are never going to get it no matter how many times it's explained to them, they live in their own delusion. They'll crash out sooner or later when Pillow doesn't give them what they want.

>>105821555
But clearly, Pillow is the sole exception to this and legitimately will devote the next 60 years to just being a streamer until she dies of heart strain while playing Poppy Playtime 93.

hello text wall

>>105821555
>It's fair to feel like a pretty universal thing that people express all the time
the vast majority of people do not feel desperately emotionally attached to something to the point of frequently making explicit statements of wanting to do a thing forever, the vast majority of vtubers don't say that. Contradicting what a person says to infer a complete 180 degree shift later on is *objectively* a weaker argument than one that aligns with it, how is a simple detail like this so to comprehend

>>105821380
>>105821445
>>105821485
>>105821565
I'm sorry that you haven't already accepted that Pillow won't be there for you forever. I hope that your eventual meltdowns stay well away from her.

>>105821594
name 3 other vtubers that have explicitly said they plan to do vtubing forever more than once and you might sound less schizo

since she's doing a collab with kanna, kanna also never intends on getting married or being in a relationship. she's actually never been in a relationship despite being 31, and is also a virgin. she has a medical condition called MCAS so she can only eat chicken and rice and will die if she comes into contact with semen.

>>105821679
>thinks he is sane for wanting to groom his oshi
>tells others that they're the insane ones
meds now

>>105821693
Omg that's so sad. I will pray for her.

>>105821693
>MCAS
Fuck that sucks

>>105821691
Like a lot. Even Nimi said that explicitly. Nene, Calli, I could name a bunch of them. Difference really is that as much as they want to be streamers forever, remaining as perfectly pure virgin idols who never speak to men isn't on the cards for their whole life. I don't doubt that Pillow may end up making vtubing a lifetime career, but i'd be extremely shocked if she completely swears herself off relationships for her whole life like a nun. You guys seem to make a weird correlation and think that she'd need to quit her job if she ever wanted a relationship.

The fact that people don't just disagree with me but get very angry and call me names tells me that I'm probably right.

>>105821790
>You guys seem to make a weird correlation and think that she'd need to quit her job if she ever wanted a relationship.
They would hate her if she started putting up barriers with them to open herself up to a relationship. I'd be upset, but I couldn't blame her.

>>105821790
>Even Nimi said that explicitly.
See this is how I know you're lying, I actually watched fauna and she implied the opposite
Amazing how you have to make up false evidence to support your position
>You guys seem to make a weird correlation and think that she'd need to quit her job if she ever wanted a relationship.
Nah most of us are operating on the whole thing where every thing she's said about vtubing she's said about her being our girlfriend too

G-guys…she’s live in a collab right now. What are you doing?

>>105821693
That sounds a lot more like she'd rather be in a relationship but has a bunch of reasons why it won't really work out, which is the position of pretty much most vtubers. I am sure that if she had better circumstances she'd rather have an actual relationship over emotionally serving a bunch of usernames, it's just that her medical condition and career lend themselves to her not having any of that.

>>105821790
>Even Nimi said that explicitly
What?? She straight up told her fans that she’s not their friends when she was Fauna. She straight up announced on Twitter that she had a boyfriend when she was still LemonLeaf. wtf are you talking about

>>105821936
too busy fantasizing about grooming pillow and sticking it to the dirty sanes

>>105822031
Why can’t they just enjoy Pillow and trust in her love without ulterior motives :(

>>105821916
No, Fauna said doesn't support parasocial relationships and wants her viewers to see her as a friend, because everyone was being weird and calling her mommy all the time. When she made her marriage announcement as Nimi she said explicitly she wants to stream forever, even when she's an old grandma. Again, you guys seem to not grasp that vtubers can in fact still stream and have careers without pretending to date you.

>>105822031
>grooming

>>105821936
Suffering in this course that's gonna drag itself out to 8 hours

>>105822069
Fauna had literally specifically avoided specifying that she would be in holo forever any time it came up though????? lmao

>>105821874
Yeah, I mean I get it, and I don't blame em. They are extremely emotionally dependent on Pillow always being there for them, and the idea that the deal might change from what they want is scary. Pillow is probably going to be a vtuber her whole life, it's the only thing she can do and she's well-built for it, she's a natural entertainer. They just hate the idea that there may come a time when she has to gently build some barriers between herself and the Piwwos, because she'd be like 27 and realizing that she's spend a huge part of her life devoted to the Piwwos, but also missing out on a huge part of living. It definitely wouldn't be unreasonable for her, particularly since she's only been active for 2 years and already dealt with a lot of extreme shit and schitzoing from the Piwwos, now imagine that compounded over another 5 years, with the addition of a growing channel and having to become more professional in the way she handles her community and career.

Bringing up Nimi/Fauna in any capacity is literal shitposting

>>105821936
no idea these schizos just talk past each other, or it can be only one account schizoing away

>>105822170
You may be retarded, of course she never said that, why would ANY corpo say they want to be in the corp forever, that's retarded. She's still a streamer after leaving, which is what I was talking about.

>>105822262
>the streamer
bro fauna is dead and the point is that that aligns 100% with what she avoided saying

>>105822238
I feel like she's a good example of the fact that a lot of parasocial viewers push expectations on streamers even when they explicitly don't want that shit. And how they also frequently act like GFE is the only thing vtubers exist for. She never once supported GFE towards her and people still acted like she was evil for being a normal person IRL, and then acted like her career would explode when she announced she was getting married, because they think vtubers exist purely for GFE. I love Pillow and enjoy the GFE, but it's retarded to treat her as though she'd have to quit if she decided to roll back the GFE.

Putting buttslug up that fempiwwo lurker

>>105822262
>why would ANY corpo say they want to be in the corp forever
kanata has literally said this btw

>>105822420
Kanata is a lesbian bitch

>>105822393
Pillow would lose the majority of the piwwos if she pulled a Fauna.

>>105822393
>I am sane very because headcanon
You want to date your oshi irl, ask anybody who doesn't have your derangement and they will tell you that you're insane

Chasing fempiwwo like a monster in Backrooms

>>105822420
She's also an early gen Holo, so she doesn't really need to worry about the state of her career, she's set. Corpos generally try not to say that shit now because it hurts their ability to negotiate with their employer. If your employer knows you're way too emotionally invested to ever leave, negotiation over your contract is basically impossible. Holos don't need to mind as much since they're vtuber royalty, but other corpos have to keep that in mind.

>>105822476
??????
And pillow is bi?? what did he mean by this kek

>>105822475
I'm sorry Pillow I'll hornypost later.

>>105822511
>early gen
>4th gen
>holo only goes up to 6 gens
???
wtf

>>105822540
pillow is not any companies?

>>105822393
If those people knew who she was before getting into Holo, they'd of never attached themselves to her.

Am I the only one who wants Kanna to give Pillow a nursing fingerjob?

>>105822628
I don’t really like her voice :/

>>105822583
She joined 6 years ago Piwwo, that's early in terms of Hololive, they just haven't been adding many gens to JP.

>>105822628
>nursing fingerjob
What in the fuck?

>>105822500
Wanting something and thinking that it's going to happen are different things.

We should be talking about Pillow being cute!

>>105822662
Well, she can’t cover her a nursing handjob

>>105822608
>fauna says something as fauna
>abides by it and dies
>kanata says something
>abides by it
>pillow says something
>uhhhhhhhhh she's gonna change her mind for sure!
bruh

>>105822638
Accent is pretty decent, but she just kinda bothers me because I can feel too much pragmatism from her. I generally dislike the older GFE girls because their chances of being sincere and honest about everything is significantly down. Like I'll buy the whole virgin thing since she's got a medical condition, but a woman that's lived a professional life for that long is less likely to be sincere about attachment to a her parasocial fans. Pillow is obviously sincere because the Piwwos are basically all she's ever known, she has nothing else in her life.

>>105822638
Same, but that's just my taste. I don't want to be mean to one of Pillow's friends. Her hand-cam ASMR is nice.

Kanna and Pillow mom and daughter roleplay ASMR

>>105822681
That's true but a nursing fingerjob sounds like a bad prostate exam

>>105822678
yes! no more schizo text walls!

>>105822678
Can't repeat a fact all day long. The internet loves drama and conflict.

>>105822647
okay but Fauna joined during the literal best year of hololive???

>>105822647
holy shit you are right, the 4th gen and.... 6 fucking years ago

>>105822678
Thanks man. This thread isn't for talking about other VTubers.

>>105822761
Makes me feel fucking old.

>>105822678
Lock me up officer Piwwo and have Pillow interrogate me personally with the butt slug.

I feel like more Piwwos are schitzoing out on here because during collabs and gaming streams, Pillow doesn't give us as much attention. I know for me, this stream is more just background stuff because I don't expect to be flirting too much with my wife.

>>105822746
Yes you can!
Pillow is very cute in an autism hat.

>>105822812
The infamous pillowjob. No piwwo has survived.

>>105822844
so you say retarded schizos don't care about her at all, just want the tradwife bullshit? very common

>>105822918
I feel bad for not being closer to her earlier. Though granted, she probably would not be here in the same way right now because my incredible charm and good looks would have won her over at that time, and she would be married to me now.

>>105822884
Shock and surprise, the GFE viewers care more about interacting with their virtual wife than saying "Oh wow scary!" every 5 mins in chat, knowing it won't be seen.

Name a single downside of dosing every piwwos water with anti psychotics
protip you cant

>>105823080
We couldn't see Pillow anymore you FUCKER

Let this thread be a reminder that hornyposting keeps /pillow/ calm.

>>105823160
Wholesomeposting and hornyposting are two sides of the same coin.

>>105823200
Wholesome by day, horny by night

At the end of the day, I'm just glad we can all agree that Pillow is a wonderful wife. That's why I'm proposing to her on our date tonight.

>>105822999
I think that's kinda bad for them...

>>105823629
The two hundred dollar Pillow plushie for sale on eBay

>>105823679(me)
Oh, it’s $300

>>105823629
>>105823679
I think someone plush got stolen at the idol cafe lol.
When was this posted?

I really miss Olive. Hope she's okay.

new thread soon

>>105823768
I saw that too, but it’s not this one. The plushie lost/stolen at the cafe was a Nurse Plushie. This regular plushie has been on sale for several months now, it was probably bought from MakeShip on release by a scalper

I wish Pillow streamed on Fridays, but also I get that she needs breaks sometimes... Just sad knowing she is just as clingy as I am and misses me just as much as I miss her.

>>105824216
You have time to breathe and rest, Kamos don't have that luxury.

>>105825075
>>105825075
>>105825075

>>105821790
IF by Nene, you mean Amano, than that is where you are wrong. She specifically doesn't want dude hitting on her. She wants to stream and make content for herself and her fans. Nene is all in on the cat lady, and I am winning for it.

>>105822393
It's not a matter of they'd quit making content, it's that a lot of fans would stop funding them.. You can act like some would still support their oshi, but it gets a lot harder to do so when you start to think, "Am I paying for Plan B's and condoms." Call it cruel, but the fact remains, people pay for GFE. Even those less there for the GFE have a parasocial relationship and will start to feel this. People vote with their wallets and feelings. Creators that parasocialize their fanbase are gonna see their fans pull back their emotional availability and that sours their motivation.