Thread 105822968

What went wrong?

>>105822968 (OP)
Voice and fat

>>105822968 (OP)
Sexy model and breedable voice.

>>105822968 (OP)
Dumb shiggers didn't get enough correction

>>105822968 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/33m24y.mp4

>>105822968 (OP)
Nothing. She's thriving and unikeks are seething. Y'all are just mad that nobody except for a tiny minority of schizophrenics cares about who chuubas collab with or what they do in their personal lives.

>>105823258
This guy was banned by Shiori btw

>>105822968 (OP)
Isnt she doing well?
Better than her last 8 accounts and 1.5 decades spend 2viewing
>>105823258
Im not watching/reading that

>>105823258
I wish she would have instead posted a video on her moe channel calling me a cuck and promoting her fansly where I could actually watch her take cock
This half baked timeline satisfies no one but herself.

>>105822968 (OP)
https://streamable.com/xgss5d

>>105822968 (OP)
Beautiful, amazingly rigged model. Easily stands out in her gen with the best design.
Used by the most normie talent possible. Her voice doesn't fit, her personality is a juxtaposition (and not in a clever or amusing ironic way), she can't sing, they make her anyways, I can go on.
They made the perfect goth/alt girl design and decided to put the most milquetoast girl possible to fill the position. It just doesn't work.

>>105824837
>Y'all

>>105825484
common woman moment, nothing special

>>105822968 (OP)
once you go black you can't go back

>>105822968 (OP)
She was a shill for the homos

>>105823258
moron for thinking he had any form of sway in the "community"
maybe for other girls but not shiroi

>>105825550
>They made the perfect goth/alt girl design
No she did, look at her last alt before joining holo its the same design.
Its just her quirky OC, not surprised her personality doesn't actually fit it.

>>105822968 (OP)
She didn't barge into my room, rape me, and make her pregnant

>>105824837
>she's thriving
You fags have been saying this since the first collab and yet she hasn't had any significant growth whatsoever.

>>105825643
Well, honestly, that's even worse. A lot worse. It's more of a pickme thing then.

>>105822968 (OP)
Nothing.

>>105825869
>>105825632
who the fuck is this

>>105822968 (OP)
Ibu Anda minum Ciu dan mengisap shabu saat sedang hamil dengan Anda.

>>105826444
catalogniggerman

>>105825484
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOKIN PROOOOOOOONOUNCES

>>105822968 (OP)
>Hey cuck, you thought you could pass through here? Here comes the NTRain! Choo~ Choo~

>>105822968 (OP)
nothing. phase is imploding and this is just a bvtm thread.

>>105828297
>game has mental illness slider and fursona importer

>>105822968 (OP)
Nothing, y'all are just schizo

>>105822968 (OP)
She pronounces "the" as "duh"
Unforgiveable

>>105822968 (OP)
2 more weeks came

>>105822968 (OP)
>>105822995
Too much ramen not enough steppies

>>105823258
I'll never understand these faggots who think wording things nicely makes their entitlement sound more justified. I wouldn't be caught dead whining like a woman about my oshi doing something I didn't like, I'd just not watch the fucking stream.

>>105822968 (OP)
it started when her parents met, then it all went downhill from there.

>>105825632
>She was a shill for the homos
most vtubers are, anon.

The 2 more weeks came but shitposters didn't get what they wanted, so now they have to make up scenarios in their head to justify their shitposting.
Also phase yab deflection thread

>>105822968 (OP)
Joined Holo instead of retiring to do vlogs

>>105825643
MD was significantly different from Shiori in design terms, she has similar hairpin and eye colours but that's it.

>>105829502
I just noticed the eyes on the boots.
She 100% has an alt she does vlogs on, just like she has an alt for her cosplays.

>>105828338
>Shiori avoids male collabs for almost 2 years
>Hides the fact that she will collab until the last second
>Even the mildest criticism about this directed at her got you a block even if you were a super nice to her and a loyal fan the entire time
>This is somehow phase's fault
You trannies will go above and beyond to justify every shitty decision made by a holo talent.
Let me guess phase is also to blame that holo went public and 8 talents walked out?
Is phase also to blame that Fauna did a ton of damage to all of vtubing with her little lore drop?
Or maybe Bae's scummy fans scalping tickets like faggots?
You people are barely different than niji. Just pure trash all around pretending that they are morally superior.

>>105829716
Phasefag spotted kek

>>105829673
I think they mean Ravenmanor Moe version

>>105822968 (OP)
Stopped doing GFE and started homocollabing because Hololive doesn’t allow LLD

>>105822968 (OP)
Nothing. Some people just didn't watch her debut stream.

>>105826444
/#/'s favorite chuuba.

>>105824952
I doubt she even saw it. She has a team of mods that do it for her.
Flip hiring flips for peanuts to do the dirty work.

>>105822968 (OP)
Nothing went wrong. The only ones who think things went "wrong" are the people who didn't do their research. If anything, this has been perfectly on track given her past. The only thing that went "wrong" is how long it took for her to finally drop her mask and GFE act. She doesn't care about Hololive. She only cares about the money she's getting. It's why she skipped out on FES when the rest of Advent were there earlier this year.

>>105832388
she has terminal autism and can't be blamed for anything she says or does

>>105832388
we love sluts. I don't feel cucked because she's not really mine.

>>105829716
phase board, amirite?

>>105832388
Name one who cares about Hololive in HololiveEN.
The original face of HololiveEN Gura? Didn't give a shit
The new face of HololiveEN Calliope Mori? I applied as a joke.
Koseki Bijou. I'm losing my work visa if i quit

>>105832788
>The new face of HololiveEN Calliope Mori? I applied as a joke.
She cares now because she's come to realize her success is as Mori, and not as Dice.

She never should have joined Hololive in the first place. It’s more than clear she never gave a fuck about any of it other than the paycheck it could offer her. Anyone else remember her “performance” during the quiz game she and Advent did with Kiara, right after debut? That shit was an embarrassment and should’ve been taken as the red flag it was.

>>105823258
@Grok summarize in 20 words or less

>>105832788
Ina? Had fan art of Holos before joining that some people would get reported for posting her not Ina fan art? Think she even won the quiz for Holos info on one of Myth's first collabs.

>>105829115
If you're setting down for VR, you get the same body position.

>>105833735
Oh yes. "Don't draw my back" Ina. I don't watch collabs so i have no clue if she aced it or won because everyone else couldn't answer 2 questions right.

Fucking whore should've been terminated for tainting hololive

>>105834339
She should be terminated for making almost none of the content her name is on. Shiori Novella is a group project, as any Novelite can tell you, and she’s got her whole gang of coconut picker SEA friends working for her: scripting, writing, moderating, animating, almost all of it. The only thing she provides is the voice.

>>105834339
Everyone is a whore. Even (you)

>>105834585
So like 99% of chuubas?

>>105834628
I should charge more

>>105834585
Isn't any project is a group project?

>>105834803
college students would disagree.

>>105825484
Why is this a bad thing?

>>105829716
>Even the mildest criticism about this directed at her got you a block even if you were a super nice to her and a loyal fan the entire time
Wording something politely does not excuse any sense of entitlement on behalf of the community for thinking that they can control who a talent collaborates with.
People here often confuse donating tokens of appreciation for paying for a service you have complete control over.
Its like tipping your local busker at the park; just because you can throw a few coins in his hat does not mean that you can make him play Wonderwall or whatever you want.

>>105829716
It's too fucking obvious, man

>>105834585
.. this is literally what every single holo does? of all the shit shiori does (or doesn’t do) this is the most baffling thing to complain about - she provides content most other girls don’t do for membership and the complaint is she has people she works with like everyone else.

>>105823258
I'm pretty sure she actually tried to be more unicorn-friendly at some point, but after a year and a half of seeing that that approach wasn't taking her anywhere, because Shiori is an acquired taste, she just said "Fuck it" and returned to being the homocollaber she always felt most comfortable being.

>>105835054
Lets not forget the loves and kisses and how she thanked superchats in prechat. She cultivated unicorns

>>105834803
…no? Did you think this was a smart response?
>>105835054
Yeah let’s just ignore the 12-18 month period immediately after debut where she made every move possible to cultivate a unicorn fanbase
>but the collab choices thing
She phrased that so poorly and autisticly that it’s rendered completely invalid. If she intended right from the start to collab with the homos, then she sure as hell took her time getting around to it.

>>105836258
OH ITS YOU AGAIN
Are you also going to go on a feedback loop about the phrasing until we hit 300 posts again this thread?
I'll prepare the popcorn.

>>105835578
>>105836258
>cultivated unicorns
Refer to my image again. This does not give you any power over her. And again, your ass donated to her a small fortune just for you to end up feeling cucked. I think the lesson to learn here is that all the lovey dovey stuff is fabricated for business.
On a subconscious level you must recognize this so why are you feeling betrayed? And if you don't recognize this then get some help, you mong. There is no justification for this kind of behavior beyond willful stupidity.
I never membered her, but I have sent her some supas now and then when I felt a stream was entertaining enough. What I never felt was the feeling like I got cheated on because I know that she's not my girlfriend.

>>105822968 (OP)
What happened to the Shiori threads? I always looked forward to saving images relating to Shiori but they just vanished, no more breads

>>105836666
Fully migrated to the tower.

>>105836258
>If she intended right from the start to collab with the homos, then she sure as hell took her time getting around to it.
The "respect my collab choices" thing during her debut wasn't warning enough? You may be too stupid to read subtext.

>>105836666
We're still on tower and tower global. We'd been planning an exodus for a while since that MonHun collab. The hack just gave us the excuse to do so.

>>105836766
Don't even bother replying to the guy, last time one of these threads popped up he went on a loop with some retard who baited him until bump limit.

>>105836825
This really is a dead board huh.

Whore

>>105836666
They couldn’t take the heat so they went to the hugbox.

>>105836879
how much?

Holo fans are just full on male collab supporting trannies now. And this trannoid >>105835054
apparently thinks that this relationship that we have with the streamers is strictly business.
And I like how you immediately went into the deep end with criticism comments that she got. Asking why did something happen and getting a block is not "trying to control" someone.
Hololive just proved yet again that fans dont matter. And if some fans leave, they'll get new ones because who cares about fan loyalty, right? Just like they started off by collabing with Niji males when Holo JP debuted, to pretending to be "idol-like" to farm the gachi bucks, to again going back to male collabs when doing tournaments with E-celebs was all the rage, and then finally, trying to replicate Luxiems success and forcing EN girls to promote those bums. And hey, if anyone didnt like the new direction, sorry bro dont let the door hit you on the way out.
They cultivate parasocial fans and then flush them down the drain like they're trash.
Enjoy your nu-holo hugbox tranny fanbase.

>>105837052
lmao

>>105837075
Laugh all you want. At least I understand people that watch vtubers for parasocial reasons whether that reason is wanting a virtual friend or a virtual girlfriend. One of the most retarded apes ever are people that unironically watch vtubing "just for fun".
This shit is one of the lowest of the low forms of entertainment. You have a completely sanitized enviroment where "peak comedy" usually comes from low effort sexual innuendos and "business yuri" relationships with the girls.
Now that holo went public, things are even more sanitized than before.

>>105836566
If you like Watchalongs or just her insight of movies member her for a month and watch Barton Fink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvfR-PQcMg

>>105824952
Good.

>>105837052
>Just like they started off by collabing with Niji males when Holo JP debuted
They didnt just collab with Niji males btw, they also used Nijisanji tags on their own videos to get more visibility kek.
Hololive was scummy from the start.

>>105837449
It really is black company

>>105822968 (OP)
Not enough spicy ASMR, bitch is holding out on us

>>105832388
/thread

>>105832388
>She doesn't care about Hololive
>She only cares about the money she's getting
>caring about your workplace beyond work
I know most people here are either neets or low payment wagies, and that japan has strong case of corpo-bootlicking, but come on.

>>105837052
>Enjoy your nu-holo hugbox tranny fanbase.
its funny how upset fags are about tower because they know their brownoid bullshit is ignored. The cries of the impotent.

>>105832388
This can be true for most of the girls and yet people still stuck with them. Everyone always hopes that being in a corpo like Holo can change a person.
But what we have been getting for these past two gets are
>Tumblr is my entire personality xDDD
type of vtubers.
>>105834275
>Dont draw my back
Ina never said dont draw my back. She literally just told off retards that can stop repeating the same meme 500 times completely out of context.
>Join the stream
>Inas back XD Inas back get it guys XDDD
Vtuber fans could be some of the biggest subhumans on the planet.

>>105837449
Is Gunrun somehow still sending you paychecks? You don’t have to do this anymore.

>>105837774
I'm not talking about tower. I'm sure that some people moved not to have retards screeching and falseflagging around the clock. But you have to admit, newer holo fans are a stark contrast from what Myth fans used to be.
When they pushed holostars and some people were like "what the fuck?" a huge wave of normalfags from reddit and twitter started flooding this board, and then they came in several waves whenever something like that happened where they felt that they need to "defend the girls from le unicorns". And now it seems that is the majority of hololive fans.
Also please dont call anyone brown I've seen holo fans at cons. You dont wanna play that game trust me.

>>105837841
>Whoever speaks facts is paid by someone
>Hololive can do no wrong
What a fucking NPC kek.

>>105837917
>"defend the girls from le unicorns"
i love this cope because what it is, is just unicorns upset being reminded they are retarded because they think some fucking woman on the internet working a job actually cares about them

>>105837774
>Tower
>A guy says that a game that a girl is playing is dogshit so he gets a ban for it
Yep. Enjoy your tranny hugbox faggots. You were never even 4channers in the first place. You discovered 4chan with /vt/. Fuck off and good riddance.

>>105837982
I mean, when it literally came out that people were being paid to do exactly what you’re doing…

>>105837992
>Everyone that disagrees with anything that holo does is a unicorn
Another NPC. This is such a reddit talking point that its not even funny how obvious you people are. Literally whatever happened, no matter the context, you just screech about unicorns.
Find a new buzzword retard.

>>105838038
Interesting how you always have a FOTM cope for any kind of criticism
>Its nijisisters
>Its vshojo
>Its phase
Deflection masters.

>>105838021
Can someone translate this monkey speak for me?

>>105823258
disgusting

>>105838117
Not my fault Hololive’s literally always better than the competition lmao

>>105838075
>>>Everyone that disagrees with anything that holo does is a unicorn
Thats not even remotely what i even implied retard. Nice reading comprehension.

>>105838118
A holo fans that was on holo tower trashed the game that a girl was playing and got banned for it.
You are probably SEA since that part is pretty obvious from what was posted.

>>105834275
So why did you bring up the back thing? I don't know how that makes it so Ina doesn't like Hololive and I don't know how not watching a large amount of content makes your argument stronger?

>>105838021
Based 4channers

>>105838176
>A holo fans that was on holo tower trashed the game that a girl was playing and got banned for it.
now the monkey is just making shit up

>>105838154
I stated that crying about unicorns is what brought in so many turbo normalfags from reddit and twitter. They literally had organised raids to /vt/ just to shut down any talking point that disagrees with covers new direction.
And now the "true" hololive fans pretend that they were always like that.

>>105826358
Took at shot at the golden gen and scored.

>>105823258
Please don't tell me this wall of text that sounds like she dropped news about mommy and daddy getting divorced is about her playing a game with a dude on stream. Please. My faith in humanity can't take the hit.

>>105838274
>I stated that crying about unicorns is what brought in so many turbo normalfags from reddit and twitter
This entire board is made up of tourists to begin with. 99% of the users here dont go to any other board, nor were they from it.

>>105838274
Not your hugbox, make your own website if you want normalfags to be banned

>>105838376
>Not your hugbox
>Says a redditor tranny that flooded the place trying to turn it into THEIR hugbox
kek and you are so thin skinned that you couldnt even do that so most of you fucked of to tower.

>>105823258
Posts like this just make me side with her, what kind of retard writes this stupid shit.

Like NTR once, you are on my blacklist. Holo is not a new start, any PL' that loved NTR would be held accountable, and the punishment is Death.

>>105838504
I think Fauna had a much worse past. She openly had freakouts about parasocials on her stream and had that fag Eddie on to "fend off" unicorns. And then she joins holo and completely avoids males.
lmaooooooooooooo Women am I right? She farm up enough simp bucks for a nice wedding tho'.

>>105838187
I only started HoloEN with biboo so i don't know old lore and i didn't want to blog post.
I can go on and on about artists.
1. They don't need to disclose if the art was a paid commission or not.
2. Even if it was free fan art it's hard to prove if they are really a fan of what they are drawing or they just do it because it's trending.
3. clout chasing.
4. networking but that's PL stuff

>>105822968 (OP)
She said I couldnt kiss other shiggers in chat anymore

>>105838683
>I only started HoloEN with biboo
KEK thanks for proving my point. Most new holofans are turbo normalfag trannies from social media. True fans left a long time ago.
FYI, Ina openly said that before she joined, her life was just drawing, playing FF and watching holo JP streams.

>>105823258
i'm not reading all that, can I get a tl;dr

>>105838858
But i am not a newfag? I just didn't do the switch from JP to EN until Advent and i regret ever doing it.

>>105839329
Oh, I apologize then my good Sir.

>>105838799
I'll kiss you here instead

>>105839925
ghey

>>105840243
You like that

>>105829716
>What about Phase though?
Kill yourself shill

>>105838683
Ina has talked about her time watching streams and having merch plenty of times, you seem to be dead set on this despite you admitting your lack of knowledge on it.

>>105822968 (OP)
HoloEN casting, as usual.

44SN0T

>>105822968 (OP)
Every EN gen has to have at least one bitch who hates the culture and wants to be inclusive to homos. EN5 is going to be no different. At least some of them (Mori, Kronii) gradually change their ways over time.

>>105822968 (OP)
As a woman she is just constantly chasing dick, aint nothing wrong with that

She's so fucking hot, i watched a lot of her porn on porn sites, what's going on with her?

>>105837052
Is your suspension from twitter over already yet?

>>105822968 (OP)
Didn't lean enough into a sexy goth girl persona despite having one of the sexiest models in the entire industry. At least her porn is good and completely separate from the person herself.

>>105822968 (OP)
She isn't hungry enough for the simp bucks. Second week in Holo and she fucks off to go on a trip. Her life outside Holo must be pretty sweet. Must be why she cucks her simps for her own amusement.

All VTubers hate their male audience because almost none of them are Chads. Most of them are average to below average looking and on the spectrum.

>>105844672
link?

>>105822968 (OP)
pinoy

>>105822995
You have my attention.

>>105822968 (OP)
(You) were born

>>105829716
There was no hiding, there was just no reason to talk about it.
The "criticism" you're talking about is deranged unicorn schizo babble that nobody should have to put up with.
(You) are a profoundly mentally ill retard who somehow ACTUALLY THINKS there's something wrong with collabing with a male in the first place.

>>105822968 (OP)
her model is so hot

>>105822968 (OP)
Shiori rl face doko??

>>105829115
>Keeps posting this
>Obviously never used VR
This is called "Desk/Sitting" mode, which is used largely by people with no full trackers or only upper body trackers.
>>105829716
>Shiori avoids male collabs for almost 2 years
Anon, your oshi has a boyfriend or husband and more and more are starting to show how much they hate people like you but only want your money, get used to it.

>>105823258
What kind of failed beta male would write something so pathetic?

reminder

>>105837198
I have quite literally been saying this for years and it always fell on deaf ears.
Why in the FUCK would anybody watch vtubers for 'entertainment'? Remove the parasocial aspect and they have nothing left to offer.
>Girls playing games badly
>Girls singing badly/mid at best
>Girls chatting about random gossip that is only gripping if there is a parasocial bond established, if not it becomes unwatchable yapping.
>Girls doing handcam streams where they solve a jigsaw or cook some easybake cookies or w/e

There's nothing there of value to anybody without that parasocial bond.
I don't watch vtubers, haven't done for years now, never donated even when I did, never membered to them because I know they're all
1. richer than me, so why am I giving them money?
2. with a partner, so again why am i giving them money?
3. all liars at their core, everything they do or say is an act until they have a mask off moment which sparks controversy and usually kills them dead the moment people see them for what they truly are (besides their most diehard fans who are in too deep)

>"Uhh well, if you don't watch them why are you even here on /vt/ then?"
I come for the rrats. I found out about the most recent Reimu controversy and came back to check the catalogue to see if anything else spicy is happening.

>>105822968 (OP)
She isn't fucking me right now, next question.

>>105856096
I watch because I also want to interact with the community. Yeah this place is trash but there are other places where it is fun.

>>105822968 (OP)
stupid fucking whore