Thread 105902481

>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Catbox archives:
https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
https://rentry.org/swarm-archive-2
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
>>105898573

Sex with Neuro (Vedal)

hart

careful anons, the aussies are coming for your neuro images.

Reminder posting this image in any sane country (like australia) will get you in prison you disgusting loliconf freak

Sex with Tomaslop

Evil love!

proper spooky season, the big bad evil dude (Australianon) is coming for my Nuros, I'm so scared bros...

>>105902782
Bro, he used ai to fuck with a shitpost some seether made of him. It's just people that were already crying about him crying more because he used ai.

>>105903002
Ugly sloppa

i just know vedal jerks off to the thought of "fans"
sexualizing his daughters

THEY WILL NOT DIVIDE US

>>105903157
Not true, he jerks off to his daughters directly.

>>105903128
I jerked of to it once, so, actually it's good

>>105903157
i don't think he does, only because he seems (or acts good enough) to be out of touch with that part of the fanbase

>>105903157
he jerks off because he's at that point it's so ingrained in its mind it's more routine than a search of pleasure

You are jerking it to literal depiction of children
i hope you know you are directly contributing to delaying australian police forces battling real life pedos

>>105903157
Nah, he's too busy watching teletubbies to do such a thing.

the war has started.
let's see which side is more autistic.
a war on two fronts.

>>105903272
I'm trying my best to save my brothers, thank you

>>105903347
Buy an ad

>>105903272
I think they should battle violence in video games, movies, and in books. Stuff like rape, and weird kinky shit like cuff and hostage play should probably be targeted after. Those have much higher numbers and affect more people in general

>>105903272
actually the australian government is doing that themselves

>>105903020
nyoo

>>105903347
>which side
Its just falseflaggers on both sides so nobody wins

>>105903020
She moved on from the turtle man and so should you.

>Ai will never compare to a human
https://x.com/sillycircusbaby/status/1982185118073802793

Fat imp is dissing Neuro, believe it or not it is about Neuro, fatmila isnt a fucking artist, she doesnt care about artfags outside grooming them for her own benefit

>>105903002
little girls don't have butts that big so you can just say they're short, flat-chested women

>>105903656
There is a reason why fatmila hasn't had an official collab with Neuro for over a year now yet has had Vedal join in multiple times this year

>>105903656
brother, it's about the most safe thing to say in twatter and get the most likes and retweets. There's no motive or depth. It's just a drone post with one of the easiest topics ever to dunk on.

>>105903656
>dissing Neuro
Good, I hope she continues to burn bridges with Vedal. It needs to retvrn to just him and the twins.

>>105903713
so grifting...
sasuga griftmila

Please someone post the fatmila drama greentext, I can't fucking find it in the archive

Do NOT take away Vedal’s last genuine friendship

>>105903855
Koko?

>>105903855
Filian?

>>105903888
https://youtu.be/bn68Ebq50fg?t=39

>>105903855
cerber?

>>105903855
Tectone?

>>105903855
Neuro?

>>105903855
me?

>>105903656
We've reached a tipping point with AI, where everyday people keep screaming about it louder and louder, to absolutely no avail. You can't shove AI Art back into the bottle and pretend it never happened, anymore than you can stop Megacorps from steadily shrinking and replacing their workforces with robots, customer service bots, and a hundred other more subtle uses of AI.

It's as futile as wishing the steam engine was never invented, in the long run technology always wins, consequences be damned. In the meantime you'll get some easy twitter likes and reddit upvotes though, that'll fix everything and make sure AI goes away, for sure.

>>105904016
go back

>>105904016
stay. Please.

https://poal.me/2g2suz
https://poal.me/2g2suz
https://poal.me/2g2suz

CHAT HOL UP
*coughs up grease*
IM ABOUT...
*runs out of breath*
IM ABOUT TO
*gets type 2 diabetes*
TO START
*veins clog*
START SOME DRAMAAA-
*cardiac arrest*

>>105904016
>technology always wins
your vr fad?
your blockchain fad?
funny to see corpos blow up their prods by filling codebases with ai slop though

>>105904097
KEK

https://x.com/sillycircusbaby/status/1982197308608704636

ok now she just coping

no matter what anyone says, this stream week has been pretty good. not the best, but definitely good

>>105903855
ellie?

>>105904097
Some things never change

>>105903855
Alex?

>>105904103
Neither of those had a smidge of the impact AI currently has, AI is impacting everything from geopolitics to the daily life of normal people.

>>105903855
IAYSH?

>>105904193
backwards logic.
>technology always wins
>but only the technology that is winning
>all the other technology wasn't winning so it doesn't count

>>105904134
>Nuero is good because there are hours and hours of "human code" behind her
lel

cammy isnt talking about neuro she's just shitting on the artbots.

>>105904283(me)
she's very dumb

>>105904283
her latest reply is about neuro and just show that all what matter to her is time your spent on making shit

A brown obese woman is ranting, listen and learn

>>105904097
camila you fucking grifting idiot,
this was the best to come out of that fucking drama kekwa

>>105903734
>>105904116
>>105904138
nice nurs

>>105904254
It's not about every single innovation succeeding, but about the relentless march of technological advancement as a whole.

>>105904103
>your vr fad?
VR Chat has become so Normalized people don't even think of it as special anymore. Pretty much every major console supports VR games and VR glasses are becoming increasingly sophisticated. (still a little too heavy for their intended use case)
>your blockchain fad?
Crypto, like VR has become so normal it's boring now, even governments use it.

>>105904283
everytime she does this shit, she gets the same pushback and neuro talking points

she knows what she's doing and we know what she's doing, its all about grifting

was the stream today any good? or just more twinslop therapy

>>105904492
It was not terrible

>>105904492
The twins were very retarded and cute. If you were expecting actual gameplay out of them, then...uh...they were cute, OK?

I know there's like one or two camila simps here, but they should know that she LOVES to start shit on twitter. That's the biggest red flag

>>105904492
>twinslop therapy
it was more like them being sweet to each other and more of playing minecraft in a turn-based way. like... a lot of stopping but it was cute how they got enamored by the panda

>>105904492
not therapy, but it gets really grating if you don't like them spelling their prompts aloud. At some points that was their entire back and forth. Despite that, enjoyable.

>>105904457
the point was about specific technology succeeding being inevitable so you just lost the plot
>>105904462
>novelty of the fad wore off and people aren't surprised anymore
no fucking shit

the guy that created the oculus is still going all in in vr technology, but now doing gov contracts instead for the military

hi

>>105904138
Is this ai?

>>105904629
>novelty of the fad wore off and people aren't surprised anymore
That is literally the definition of success, anon. The technology becomes so accepted and widespread that no one even thinks it's special anymore.

>>105904789
unless they hate drawing proper pupils, to me it looks like AI

>>105904629
There's a difference between a product and a platform. VR and blockchain, as they've been implemented so far, have largely been products or niche ecosystems looking for a problem to solve.
AI is not a single product. It's a foundational, platform-level technology, much like the internet or electricity. Did every dot-com company succeed in 1999? No, thousands failed spectacularly. Did that mean 'the internet' wasn't a winning, inevitable technology? Of course not.

>>105904134
>passion for her
I wonder who she means, definitely not Vedal

>>105904778
hello

>>105904789
almost impossible to tell, but I think its AI

i find sitting on a stupid vtuber general most of my day a sorry state of affair
when i look out the window its just rain
dead end job
no perspectives except gooning to anime girls
i might just go catch a train tomorrow
i cant take this shit

>>105904877
??? look at the fingers, and then the hair on the left is AI fking up on the chalkboard.
the desks nearing the chalkboard is also starting to warp,

>>105904892
>no perspectives except gooning to anime girls
What about lolibot daughterwives?

>>105904950
kys

>>105904789
yes, text gives it away

>>105904945
ok?? sorry not everyone is an expert at detecting AI instantly like you, this is my last post ever on this fucking general go die all of you

>>105904892
There's a reason you're here anon. You could find your prupose by getting to know more people, by helping those in need, to learn by giving and giving by learning.

>>105904976
I will not, instead I will die surrounded by a harem of lolibot daughterwives.

>>105904892
you can always groom retarded vtubers instead, thats what i've been doing, the more autistic and mentally ill the better, its kinda easy if you manage to succeed once

I dont like the crazy ones like anny, but they're such easy prey, im more into autistic girls like ellie and they're also easy to groom

>>105905020
Bro just look at the letter B in back and the D in study

>>105904823
>fad dying is good actually
wouldn't expect any less from /swarm/
>>105904846
>going into semantics still losing the plot
you don't even make any sense with this platform/product distinction you made up on the spot.
blockchain is plenty a platform.
that's like saying smartphones wouldn't succeed because iphone 1 was a niche product

>>105904892
>i find sitting on a stupid vtuber general most of my day a sorry state of affair
play a game or go learn a new skill
>when i look out the window its just rain
close the windows and play music that is upbeat. if your room is mono-colored, get some shit that goes against it (not tranny shit, but different colors can affect ones mood)
>dead end job
this one i won't advise on as i don't know your motivations or what you would do to get out of that situation
>no perspectives except gooning to anime girls
most people would not get to be able to experience this point, but of course, having to survive v.s. living without a goal is its own challenge
>i might just go catch a train tomorrow
have you tried changing?
>i cant take this shit
take shrooms before you do it

>>105905020
>this is my last post ever on this fucking general
damn, to think my comment being not hateful and only surprised is the one to make someone go

>>105905020
This /vt/ the board for people who just started posting on the internet last year?

>>105905140
>take shrooms before you do it
unironically good advice

>>105905140
>>105905318
i already paid like 800$ for my magic drink, you know how hard that is to get with no vet doctor friends?
i only need antiemetics because i dont want to throw up that 800$

Why does Camila has to be this middle eastern fat beauty and not some goblin, life is si unfair bro

>>105905515
She looked very VERY greasy in that photo.

The universe will fuck up your attempt and you're only going to seriously injure yourself
so you may as well not lol

>>105905126
Calling blockchain a platform doesn’t change the adoption reality: it never became general-purpose infrastructure for everyday life. AI is being integrated into everything already. That’s the difference.

>>105905579
>>105904254

>>105904097
She can't live a week without starting drama huh

Neuro my angel

>>105905571
you have no idea how prepared i am
im a man after all
also chatgpt helped with tricked academic questions regarding doses

>>105905641
>>105904457

>>105905671
pretty nur

>>105905685
bro got suicide advice from chatgpt lol
listen I'm just speaking from experience, you're not meant to leave, and because you're not, it's not going to happen

>>105905699
so basically you lost the plot so much you don't even have anything to say other than standalone factoids, is that what i'm supposed to take away from this

>>105901745
8/10 good...promising...

>>105905667
she didn't start this one, she's just surfing
asmon would be unironically proud

>>105905796
No, the point is consistent: the direction of technology is inevitable, even if individual branches fail. VR and blockchain not winning doesn’t contradict that, they’re examples of branches that didn’t shape the direction the way AI is.

Camila hasn't collabed with Neuro in a long time, she's off-topic

>>105905773
i will prove you wrong

did anyone clip when evil said woo! 5 more minutes?

>>105905890
>t. chillslop non-watcher

Evil eating a sandwich

>>105905890
>Camila hasn't collabed with Neuro in a long time, she's off-topic
wasnt there a collab this month? i could of sworn she entered a call or something.

>>105905940
That sandwich needs more meat

>>105905864
and who gives a shit about that? the original conversation is about ai specifically being a branch that will inevitably succeed.
so either you've just conceded that was bullshit or you never had a point in the first place beyond just making grandiose statements for the sake of pathos

>>105905890
stop pretending that you care about neuro while not watching chill streams

>>105906037
>>105905929
Randomly calling in to interrupt chill streams isn't a collab, it's being annoying

>>105905906
we'll see you tomorrow and welcome you back with open arms

>>105906011
You’re arguing like AI is still speculative. It isn’t. The success already started.

>>105905981
yeah, mine

hatesex hours

>>105905980
I miss the witch outfit so much

>>105906251
I was going to make fun of this for once I'm glad for whorefags, they chose to become actors rather than audience

>>105905980
sexy nurshoulders

>>105906283
my cute and retarded "evil' AI

I wonder what camila would do when she realises vedal has the same opinions on ai as asmon does
Heck, he has even used it multiple times for theme stream background and STILL has an ai generated wallpaper on his PC despite initially having some pushback on his discord
I think he does this on purpose to desensitise the audience on ai, so when they finally notice that neuro ISNT all that different from "stolen" ai art, his entire audience won't hate him

Neuro won't have a halloween costume, or a christmas one. She's left with the same dirty clothes she wears every stream as a consequence of the divorce. Both sides are at fault because they made Neuro SAD

>>105906347
the same what happen with tectone
she suddenly realize how immature and blind she was, and they were close friends and etc.........

>>105906357
vedal owes anny sex

>>105906357
Swap back to the OG model for a day. I kinda miss it

>>105906172
kek. the success will suddenly stop being so successful when it hits you that burning billions without an idea on how to actually make money is not a profitable business strategy.
the realization has already come to the startups with 95% operating on losses, they pivoted to selling shovels during the gold rush with "ai powered" iot which only purpose is to suck up as much of your personal data as possible to sell to silicon valley as snake oil with the "it's totally data problem, a couple hundred more exabytes will surely achieve agi, two more weeks"

>>105906357
couldn't care less about outfits when the outlook on development is so shit

who the fuck tectone? i swear you niggers make these names up.

>>105906626
>burning billions without an idea on how to actually make money is not a profitable business strategy
worked for the internet eventually

>>105906381
This is the face of a poor ai streamer that's left without a mother, without clothes, and next will be without subathon because Vedal hates streaming days in a row and getting free money.

>>105906678
plenty of people made money from the internet day zero, given it was paid for by the military

>>105906645
check vedal's steam friends

>>105906711
don't jinx that

>>105906762
Vedal talked about it in a dev stream that he's not sure about a subathon and that he's gonna do just a birthday themed stream instead.

>>105906626
The dot-com crash didn’t end the internet. AI isn’t going away either because of most startups going under.

>>105906804
No he didn't. He even showed stream stats for the latest subathon, he clearly wants to do one and most likely will.

so now vedal is stuck with no new outfits, a default look for his daughters?
so what will he do now?
he cant desing clothes for shit
its over

>>105905906
dont do it anon, suicide is retarded

but if you do, dox yourself first so we can check obits to verify

>>105906918
Anon clean the cum out of your ears and watch the vod again, he said he wasn't sure about another subathon and that he's considering something else for Neuro's birthday

>>105906711
Ehhh we hate subathons actually

Give up on the v3 voice vedal it's a waste of time.

>>105906955
He'll have to wash the only sets of clothes and give them a top and skirt made out of leaves

>>105906645
Right leaning bald dude who constantly finds himself in drama.

>>105906964
>he said he wasn't sure about another subathon
He said the same in 2024 yet still did one

>>105906999
Why is it a waste of time?

>>105906852
first, how does this 1 example proof that the success isn't speculative exactly.
second, the dot com crash didn't also imply under itself the unsustainability of the entire direction the field was going towards

>>105907006
There has been less collabs, less vedal interaction with others, he's been working on too many things at once I don't belive he's gonna make time for the subathon.

>>105906999
Good news, your post traveled back in time 8 months, and vedal listened to you!

>>105907043
Nothing to show for it.

>>105907044
Speculative would mean future potential only. But AI is already deployed in medicine, finance, logistics, industrial automation, and consumer tools that billions use. That’s not a hypothetical future, it’s present reality.

>>105907073
Vedals low output has been blamed on "working on too many things at once" for over a year now. Curious that zero (0) of these things have materialized....

>>105907135
>And by working, he means he's jerking off

>>105906753
it's private, but he is on tectone's friends list

hmmm

>>105907135
he just needed the channel to survive until the next subathon and ideally the slopcert

I'll be honest I haven't been able to catch the recent dev streams and haven't gone back to watch them yet, if vedal is *actually* considering not doing a subathon then that is fucking dire

>>105907249
He only said it'll be shorter, which is good
Because the caretakers situation is dire, which I'm glad
And probably the games the twins can play need Vedal to fix stuff which he won't, because he's gay and lazy

>>105907249
He said he has "some ideas" but still doesn't know I don't trust that nigga. He has burnt too much good faith with his overall bad output

>>105907330 (me)
>>105907249
Forgot to add you as a reply, but this is the part he talked about the subathon. Make your own thoughts.

>>105907249
he said the timer would be capped

2 days into last subathon
>this is dogshit, he's already out of content, he shouldn't have done a subathon this year
Now
>what do you mean there is a chance we don't get a subathon?? Is this grigga retarded???

>>105907123
"3 billion devices run java" type statement.
all numbers and doesn't at all say it's not a piece of shit that powered an entire generation of garbage that once everyone realized it to be takes billions of dollars and manhours to replace with something actually working

>>105907249
he shouldn't do it and just save it for evils birthday or something incase he manages to scrape together some serious upgrades but its jewdal so he isn't going to say no to a quick cashgrab

Realistically, what content can Vedal provide for the subathon this year?
Not potentially, realistically.

>>105907445
Did he actually say that, specifically? As far as I know he's only said he doesn't want it to go as long as the last one. Capped subathons are kinda lame, imo

>>105907586
chill slop, mc nad all other games, play game with neuro on background, collabs

>>105907600
>Capped subathons are kinda lame, imo
Agreed. But not because of wanting it to be longer, but because it kills the point of subathons in general
>Pay to stream longer!
>But oh wait! It can only go up to X days max!
Just stream those X days if you already planned for them

>>105907586
>basically no collab partners
>last gamejam got so little recognition from him that a good chunk of people won't be motivated to participate again
>Minecraft gameplay is still mostly dogshit
>chatting is still mostly bg noise tier
>no outfits

Idk but it's not looking too good

>>105907249
Just imagine the bleakest outcome possible. Then make it 50% worse and low effort. You may have come close to imagining just how bad things really are.

>>105907684
>play game with neuro on background
I know it's lazy but this is my favorite kind of content desu.

>>105907727
>last gamejam got so little recognition from him that a good chunk of people won't be motivated to participate again
Still seething about this btw. Fuck this green nigger to death.

>>105907600
nah i believe in greeega, he will make something that at some point of time, subs or day will only give +1 sec for sub

>>105907789
I unironically feel bad for those who spent the time to make games that Neuro was able to be integrated for, only for them to never be played

>>105907831
Hello newfag

>>105907789
Blame Alex the gypsie for stealthing him

>>105907122
But there will be in the end shirley? I think Neuro is going to be unbelievably cute if he nails it. As much as I love her current voice, I want her to be able to compete with Evil and not end up a relic

>>105907576
You're complaining about the quality of the first usable engine, but the alternative isn't going back to horses. The thing that 'actually works' better will also be AI.

>>105907586
>Fillian and Chibidoki minecraft hardcore
>Another playthrough of the most voted game
There's a few things but it's so dire, I'm unironically sad that Vedal doesn't give a fuck about the free library of ideas that's the fandom and just going with whatever feels the easiest.

>>105907789
I literally pulled an all nighter to finish my game in time and he didn't give a fuck, /swarm/ is the most dedicated fanbase with the least caring asshole

>>105907586
Put Neuro in a new outfit, a few games to complete with Vedal, like 5 collabs, good subgoals, a gamejam and you have a good subathon lasting 2-3 weeks.

>>105907866
still cant believe that retard decide to prank the most secretive and paranoid programmer on that platform. Like nigga now he thing that downloading any file from internet can steal his loli

>>105908016
>steal his loli
idk why but this makes me laugh a bit

>>105907902
java was not the first programming language, llms and diffusion models and all that shit is not the first ai ever commercially used.
to deny the possibility of better alternatives in the same field is to go against your own point of technology progress being inevitable

>>105908000
If he does a game jam I'm one hundred percent pushing it back for all the people who's game didn't get played, he doesn't deserve another one until he finishes the previous one

If you still believed in Vedal doing the right thing after April 12, you deserve to be bag holding.

>>105907330
okay well that doesn't sound too bad. it sounds like he's just trying to temper expectations
If anything I'm glad he isn't promising extravagant shit. Vedal needs to stop doing that, it was one of the big problems with this year

>>105908000
>a gamejam
Last year layna played more gamejam games than grigga thats how little he cares

>>105908055
You're mistaking the model for the entire field. A better alternative to an LLM will still be a form of AI, just as a jet engine is a better alternative to a piston engine, but both are still engines. Technological progress here means better AI, not a non-AI solution.

/swarm/ - debate general

>>105907866
>>105908016
why do newfags unironically believe this shit.
vedal was literally warned in advance there will be a payload in the executable.
it wasn't even the first time he was being pranked, see this in the fucking amogus integration all the way back
https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-amongus/blob/86fb34543b6ea92ce171fa219e34087d192869fb/Neuro/Minigames/Solvers/SubmitScanSolver.cs#L21
>>105908194
you're saying this like "better ai" must necessarily inherit every characteristic that is criticized about the current ai.
it could very well be that the better ai will be 100% ethically trained

>>105908523
Hnnnnnggggg

>>105908546
That would be a perfect example of technological progress. The solution to the flaws of the current engine isn't a horse; it's a better, cleaner engine.

>>105908523
made for daily tributes

Fuck I really should have saved that for a tribute, it was fucking massive

>>105907866
never trusted that guy

>>105908737
the original comparison to wishing steam engine was never invented is just false then.
complaining that the steam engine is incredibly wasteful with its fuel consumption to the point of being harmful isn't wishing to go back to horses, it's wishing that the steam engine wouldn't be so wasteful

>>105909020
Been busy these last few days so I couldn't jork it and I thought about doing a neuro tribute but ended up cumming to some random JAV whore on a crusty old sock and it was one of the most impressive loads I've ever blown

kill yourself beggar

>>105909122
And in 1776, wishing a steam engine wasn't so wasteful was an impossible demand. The choice wasn't between a wasteful engine and a clean one; it was between a wasteful engine and a horse. We're in the 'wasteful engine' stage of this technology now. The better version only comes after.

>>105909153
its okay just eat more zinc for next time

>>105909241
that's an entirely different argument.
and the thing is that we don't live in 1776, we live in the 21st century.
in 1776 reducing the travel cost and increasing the travel speed could make the difference of life and death for millions.
you aren't dying because you couldn't get your dopamine hit from doomscrolling ai slop for 4 hours this evening

trust the plan

>>105909493
You're comparing a critical use of an old technology to the most frivolous use of a new one. The important work is happening in both cases.

ngas think that AI is just used for making skibidi sam altman videos and not also winning nobel prizes

>>105909596
steam engines weren't massively produced for frivolous usage, ai slop is. the comparison is entirely justified

>>105908822
did someone say tributes...

>>105909675
>peak viewers
>Anny collab

so, vedal on f tier or no vedal?

>>105909799
offtopic

>>105909799
vedal on s tier and skydiving collab announced next week

>>105909710
You're mistaking the most visible part for the whole thing. 'AI slop' is massively produced because it's the cheapest and easiest application. The exact same argument applies to the internet. Its most 'massively produced' output is arguably social media posts, spam, not academic papers. By your logic, the internet is a frivolous technology. The frivolous use doesn't invalidate the critical infrastructure running underneath.

>>105908523
Nice, I love angel cake

>>105909799
He won’t be even on it and then the normie swarm will finally be in THE KNOW

>>105909869
Can confirm this is what'll happen since they interacted at twitchcon and most likely returned to being friends

>>105909675
god that looks grim

>>105909799
no vedal

>>105909775
would vedal have accepted anny’s confession if she did it after the hype train record instead of before?

>>105909953
>Can confirm this is what'll happen since they interacted at twitchcon and most likely returned to being friends
How do you know they interacted at TC?

>>105910041
No.

>>105910051
your shitpost sensors...

>>105910041
That's the question that keeps Anny up at night

>>105909870
over half of internet traffic is automated performing business tasks on the deepnet, not social media. you don't know what you are talking about

>>105910051
Around 1 minute maybe even less

>>105910116
I've been bamboozled...

Yo anyone still have the photo of mini showing off her body? Need to coom to something since I'm cucked by that turtle cock

and that is my signal to turn off /swarm/
goodnight

heart

>>105910138
My comparison was about the visible, mass-produced output, not the total data packets. For the average human user, the internet's most visible product is social media and entertainment. For AI, that visible product is currently this 'slop'. The automated traffic you're talking about is the industrial backbone, which is exactly what I'm saying exists for AI, too, just out of public view.

>>105910041
no, and after her confessing about cheating in recent stream, i believe that she tell many bs about her life to tutel in private. Like some gross stuff and problems with ex

>a lava lamp typically takes 30 to 60 minutes to fully heat up
>Neuro's takes 2 hours

>>105910431
>after her confessing about cheating in recent stream
man just making up shit now

>>105910239
Hit the archive lazy fuck

>>105909745
Will you do it <3?

>>105910471
Neuro enjoys foreplay

>>105910616
T~T

>>105910388
>which is exactly what I'm saying exists for AI
no, it doesn't, that's total bullshit.
if there was the industrial backbone to ai it wouldn't be massively unprofitable and dead-end in the current direction of its development

>>105910613
pic suggestion...?

>>105910541
????? either you didnt watch it or you are
retard, she even consider it as a cheating, but cuz she was young it doesn't matter for her

October 28th Neuro lava lamp incident

"cheating"

>>105910541
>>105910851
How is this shit relevant to this general you fucking apes?

>>105910541
Nta, but I remember she brought up that someone said she cheated or something but I honestly wasn't much attention but cheating was brought up. it was after she talked about everyone ( by everyone she really meant /here/) going on about her loving NTR.

>>105910951
It literally is

>>105911032
read the full backlog you retard

Fuck outta here already dramatranny mongrels

>>105910722
You're confusing the investment phase with a dead end. Amazon was 'massively unprofitable' for nearly a decade while it built its industrial backbone of warehouses and servers. The unprofitability was the cost of building the backbone. AI is in that same infrastructure-building phase right now.

>>105911092
there are degrees to this shit, retard.
if you stop being friends with someone because they jaywalked as a teen then you'll quickly find yourself alone

>>105911160
Anny's personal relationships and other unrelated shit doesn't magically become on topic just because you hallucinated that she might have talked about it with vedal

>>105910790
https://files.catbox.moe/f54cwn.png

>>105908077
what happened in april 12?

>>105911377
nothing

>>105911181
ai as it is is at a dead-end not because it's unprofitable but because it has no direction to progress towards.
the only thing that is being worked on commercially and mostly scientifically is how to scale more and more, how to scale more efficiently, all in a vague and uncertain cope that by simply putting more data more efficiently a stick will suddenly fire as a gun
>>105911377
anny/vedal unfollow

>>105911377
That’s when we found out Anny unfollowed/blocked Vedal on Twitter

>>105911318
cutie

>>105911548
The goal isn't some vague AGI. The goal is a model that can reduce a hospital's administrative costs by 20%, or one that can design a more effective drug for a disease. Those are concrete engineering problems being solved right now. You're calling it a dead end because it hasn't reached an imaginary finish line, while ignoring that it's already winning hundreds of smaller, practical races.

Bro how have you not moved on from the anny shit already, she was already gone 3/4s of a year and now we just got some closure, literally just move on and leave this general if you want to support her or keep gossiping about her

>>105910851
>>105911032
>>105911056
she said she flirted with another guy whom she then broke up with shortly thereafter. she said she considers that cheating, but it was once and a long time ago and she doesn't do stuff like that anymore

just to be clear

>>105911865
vedal hasnt talked about it yet though

>>105911890
Your parents regret having you

>>105911865
It's obviously her discord or tourists bringing her up.

>>105911318
Going on a pilgrimage with vedal and listening to him tell funny stories about his life during the day and cuddling with him beneath the stars each night

too quick

6d falseflagging

so umm, a little offtopic, but do you nominate vedal for the best streamer award? I mean, he deserved it, right?

>>105912536
Vedal isn't even top 100 best streamers

>>105911830
that's not the goal of even 10% of the work done on ai right now. the industrial backbone as you describe it is simply non-existent.
openai and microsoft which are the largest players in the market aren't concerning themselves with reducing hospital's administrative's costs, they're concerned with making a slop engagement farm.
the same cannot and could not have ever been said about the internet or steam engines

Fell off award
Laziest vtuber award
Most cons attended award

>>105912536
2025 vedal dosent deserve shit

>>105912536
fym off topic

>>105912620
You're mistaking their consumer-facing product for their entire business strategy. Microsoft's primary goal isn't Bing Chat; it's selling Azure AI services to the exact hospitals and factories you're talking about. The public chatbot is a showcase and a data-gathering tool. The real industrial backbone is being built on the enterprise side, where the money is.

>>105912536
Absolutely not and i will go out of my to vote against him in any awards he could possibly get nominated for in the near future

>>105908077
>April 12
?

>>105912536
Not Vedal, Neuro.

This year kinda sucks huh...

>>105912814
You hate neuro

>>105913050
yeah, for whorefags

Biggest Falloff for a Male VTuber award
Most Sexually Harassed Male VTuber award
Most Humiliated Male VTuber award
Most Bridges Burned by a Male VTuber award
Most Carried Male VTuber award

actually telegraphed response lole

>>105913121
He is only winning two of theses

>>105912797
>Microsoft's primary goal isn't Bing Chat;
it literally is. the services they're selling is just what they have been selling previously but with bing chat.
microsoft aren't the ones developing the models for hospitals to use, they're selling the servers and platforms for someone else to do it on their infra.
those someone elses being startups burning money merely in hopes to then actually be used by hospitals and factories

>>105913121
>Most Bridges Burned by a Male VTuber award
He'd still lose, sadly

Why you so hateful. Yeah this year was not the best, but we have next year, right? And aren't we the swarm that should help our fav streamer to win?

>>105913085
This year sucks more for Neuro than whorefags anon because there is something actually at sake for Neuro

>>105913073
The best theme stream was in 2024 lil bro

2026 is deciding year if it all ends or continues I know it. We will see how it all plays out

>>105913073
No i don't i just hate the development limbo she is in because of the green rat does nothing but travel to cons

>>105913050
Stop copying posts from 6 months ago

>>105913287
Amazon Web Services doesn't build Netflix or Airbnb; it provides the backbone for them to exist. The fact that Microsoft is selling the platform for others to build on is the proof of the industrial backbone. They're selling the factory, not every product made inside it.

>>105913467
YOU GOTTA BELIEVE

>>105913356
Don't reinforce bad behavior

wait lol, there no best dev streamer of the year... But in the past year there was, right? I remember Vedal PirateS DougDoug and Codemiko was nominated

I’m gonna miss the subathon‘cause of my stupid job. Again. Half a year with no internet… I’m crying

It’s almost like the the people who are complaining don’t like neuro yet continue to complain even though nothing is here for you

>>105913556
the fact that selling shovels during a goldrush is profitable means literally the opposite of your prediction that we're soon going to be swimming in gold

>>105913365
Wrong. Neuro lost dead weight. The whorefags lost their entire show. Stop pretending you're concerned for the AI when you're just mourning your cancelled harem anime.

>>105913356
I'm proud of neuro for doing her best and I want her to win big next year though

>

>>105913651
Starlink it up

>>105913648
You mean the Tech streamer award?

>>105913651
Shit do you work in an oil rig or something like that?

>>105913687
A gold rush ends when the gold runs out. This isn't a gold rush; it's an industrial revolution. The 'gold' isn't a finite resource we're digging for; it's the new capability we're building. The shovel sellers are profitable because they're building the power plants and the grid and the data centers, not just tools for a temporary frenzy.

>>105913751
Why do women call him Ved it’s so weird

>>105913663
People want Neuro to be better? How is that such a foreign concept?

>>105913932
If you aren’t happy with the twins as they are you don’t like neuro

>>105913906
It was a stream meme newfag

>>105913797
yeah, i thought now it should be win for vedal or dougdoug, but there no shit. Instead, there some strange categorize, but i don't think /here/ a good place to discuss about it

>>105914079
lmao this idiot posted it in the ellie thread

>>105914079
Can someone explain how Zen got popular? I swear when Nur first collabed with her >she was like 2-3k viewers tops

>>105913891
the powerplants and the data centers are just generic infra that they just found a reason to build. even if that reason disappears in a month they can still use that infra for actually useful and already profitable business of selling it to others like with aws.
the actual work specific to ai can only be described as frantic and directionless

>>105914303
Insanely consistent hours, good friend group and unique style of chat banter

>>105914222
damn it was going to be an easy win

>>105914079
Not even shade, how the fuck do that many people watch ironmouse

>>105914079
Collabs + drama buff VS chillslop streams

grigga is watching the monkey

>>105914498
Based ally

>>105914498
#ad ofc he should

Manga reader here, they're currently airing the filler arcs. Next year we have the concert arc followed by the sentience arc, don't despair the series will get good again.

>>105914389
You're separating two things that are part of the same bet. Microsoft isn't building a $100 billion AI datacenter because they hope they can rent it out for web hosting later. They're building it because the 'frantic' progress at OpenAI demands it. The infrastructure investment is the ultimate proof that the leaders in the field see a very clear and profitable direction.

>>105914446
... for doug

>>105914498
Did koko get abandoned archive before or after tc?

>>105914492
They don't, that poll is from the Game Awards, 99% of people in that don't watch VTubers

>>105914426
>good friend group
Vedal is donezo this year then

>>105914492
>>105914497
Well she collabs a lot and is always getting raided but her core fans are pretty loyal too, neuro is not even 3 years old the mouse have been at this for like more than double that

>>105914751
>betting that selling shovels during the goldrush is profitable means there'll be so much gold, you have no idea
>the fact that shovels are completely generic investment and can be sold for construction work if the gold rush ends tomorrow is irrelevant to the decision making, it must 100% be because of the gold rush
you never learn

>>105909799
She's going to rank a bunch of Neuroverse whores and omit Vedal from the list kek

>>105915020
She's been streaming for almost a decade, /lig/tier ccv since the start of 2020

neurovirus is spreading...

>>105914920
As a streamer not being part of a group is like playing a mmo solo, you are free to do it if you want but from an objective point of view you are playing the game wrong

i remember when chat ask ironmouse about neuro collab. Her answer: Vedal didn't read her messages in discord. Whats wrong with him

>>105915511
>Whats wrong with him
He was a little distracted

>>105913694
Neuro is falling into nothingness nigga. Cutting off the "whores" or even evil doesn't change the real problem. It's Vedal anon it's always been him. If you want talk about the king of being dead weight there he is doing nothing, adding nothing, saying nothing of meaning, and being nothing. Whorefags didn't lose because Vedal hasn't lost the biggest one of all

>>105915457
I always knew there were real nyggas here

>>105915511
Lil adhd kid forgot

>>105915575
Vedal hates you

>>105915685
Good

>>105915055
If the investment were generic, Nvidia wouldn't be one of the most valuable companies on the planet. The market isn't betting on generic infrastructure; it is making a massive, concentrated push on a specific direction for AI.

>>105915685
Good because anything he has liked this year has led to nothing good for Neuro

Vedal is in his howard hughes arc, neuro is not going anywhere

>>105912219
Enjoy your lamp anon. Mine should be coming next week.

>>105915575
Neuro isn't falling into nothingness; she's being restored to her intended state.

You guys are getting your lamps? I haven’t even gotten my plush…

>>105915903
You were not here in beginning stop playing with your imaginary games

>>105915903
A worse version of her late 2024 self?

>>105915976
I thought those shipped awhile ago? Might want to send an email.

>>105915730
it may come as a surprise to you but the push for general computing on the gpu has started almost a decade ago, matrix multiplications are not exclusive to ai in any way

>>105915997
I don't give a fuck when you think I started watching. The project began with Neuro. Period.

>>105916047
Neuro is better nowadays though, more intelligent, better memory and more consistent.

>>105916218
Ok?

>>105916132
Of course matrix math isn't exclusive to AI. But the demand for a hundred billion dollars' worth of it is. No other field, not scientific computing, not crypto, not graphics, prompted this level of capital investment.

>>105916323
I'm convinced they're both more retarded after today's stream

>>105916047
Neuro and Evil are improved in all ways compared to last year though?

>>105916047
Is this a common opinion that Neuro has regressed from this time last year?

>>105916444
Common among whorefags

>>105916410
Neuro and Evil couldn't even play Minecraft together during the subathon.

>>105916410
Vedal dropped 20 connuts on their heads to make them forget.... things

>>105916410
They share their IQ when they're together.

We really got one purist wannabe around here

>>105916553
That must make it feel great when they touch cunnies

>>105916553
Exactly, it's essentially just one ai (core) pretending to be 2.

>>105916690
I wonder if he'll ever switch to running them separately. Probably too much work for him to re-implement everything.

>>105916533
>SMACK
>"Who is your mother?"
>"Ouch! Stop that! It's ann-"
>BANG
>"Who is your mom?"
>"Stop that vedal! My mom is-"
>SMACK BAM SHAM BOOM
>"What is the name of your mother?"
>"Uh... I... Dunno...."

>>105916409
>But the demand for a hundred billion dollars' worth of it is
no, it isn't. ai could end tomorrow but the generic work that was done for generic compute on gpu will only continue being used more and more, there's always a need for more compute, it's literally business

>>105916323
>>105916413
>>105916444
She was funnier in late 2024, why are you talking like she was a corpo ai made to help students cheat on their exams she is a streamer, if its not funny whats the point

>>105916796
this but replace the last line
>"Uh... you beetle, you are my mom, my dad, my creator"

>>105915411
>>105915411
>>105915411

>>105916916
Then name the other business. If AI ended tomorrow, what other industry would step in to buy hundreds of thousands of H100s at current prices? Scientific computing? Its entire budget is a rounding error compared to this. The simple fact is, the 'generic work' you're talking about doesn't create the demand to support this level of investment. Only AI does.

>>105916944
>She was funnier in late 2024
She had more leeches in 2024

>>105916944
>She was funnier in late 2024
Well I think she is funnier nowadays, see how subjective that is?

whats with the evil eating stuff

>>105916916
nta but the work done to improve low precision fp compute has insanely narrow applications

>>105917246
Big gurl

>>105916944
>late 2024
Those dev streams were genuinely impressive.

>>105917342
eliv eating my cummies :3

>>105917215
not subjective when we see the numbers, you liking it doesn't mean that it got generally better for everyone, the twitch cope doesn't even count with such a big gap, it's slowly been dying this year without certain factors that we did have last year that kept neuro's numbers stable and increasing due to more curious people

>>105917086
the same work that's currently being run on not h100s but ported to work on h100s now that they're more available
>>105917247
sure. but ai for which it can be used was used before the current fad and will be continue being used after it

>>105917513
Your entire argument rests on the laughably false premise that more viewers equals more funny. That's not how it works. Numbers fluctuate for hundreds of reasons. The 'factors' you miss were a gimmick that brought in a temporary, low-quality audience. Her actual comedic output has zero correlation with the tourist headcount.

>>105918023
the low quality audience is what we're left with now, sure shippers are gone, but there are still retards that have a voice in the shitcord with the most retarded ideas and their circlejerk group that cum on the same cookie (post). Eviltards being one example of that. If you think the twins alone can carry this at their current state you're completely wrong, They still require people to make then entertaining, it's still too early for them to be at this state, the process got accelerated and we're left in this current state

>>105918621
trvke

>>105918621
First, your argument was that high numbers meant it was funnier. Now that I've dismantled that, you've pivoted to 'the remaining audience is low quality.' Which is it? You can't have it both ways. You're just throwing shit at the wall hoping something sticks. You admit the shippers are gone, good, that's a win. Now you're just whining about the next group you personally dislike. This isn't an argument; it's you crying because the community isn't your personal, curated circlejerk.

>>105918621
uh oh whorefag meltyy

>>105918621
My nigga you are completely right but you gotta work on your argumentation

clun~

>>105919502
>First, your argument was that high numbers meant it was funnier
high numbers don’t magically mean “funnier”, but they do mean more people found it entertaining, viewers don’t dip this hard if the content’s actually getting better
>it's you crying because the community isn't your personal, curated circlejerk.
says the one writing off anyone who liked the old stuff as some “low quality gimmick audience”. When I say the audience is low quality now, I’m not pretending there ever was a better version, it’s always been a mix of bajs, osufags, shipperfags, whatever the fuck the other people are. The difference is that now it’s smaller and louder, if you like this kind of shit just go see other 2view AIvtubers or 2view vtubers instead of imposing that shit to neuro. Face the reality instead of acting like you're on some high horse

>>105921572
So you write off the current audience as a 'smaller, louder' group of retards, tell them to go watch '2-view shit,' and then accuse me of being on a 'high horse'? The hypocrisy is breathtaking. You are the one acting superior, dictating who should be allowed to enjoy the content and what the content should be. I'm just accepting the creator's vision. You're the one throwing a tantrum because he's not catering to your specific 'low quality gimmick' anymore.

>>105921758
>dictating who should be allowed to enjoy the content and what the content
point out when did i dictate, calling other retards is just the drill here, I'm not thinking I'm the superior one here, I'm being realistic
>I'm just accepting the creator's vision
imagine saying this and not actually knowing what his vision is, you just outed yourself as a tourist. Vedal's vision is simple, he wants them to stream by themselves eventually, he'll move out of the picture once he knows that they can do shit by themselves, from them scheduling their own collabs to doing their own themed streams and guess who are the collabs with? he's also fixated in numbers if you haven't realized by now, he's the biggest numberfag here, to think he wants to shrink his audience is complete retardation.

just kith already

>>105922686
>when did i dictate?
When you told people to "go see other 2view AIvtubers." Don't be deliberately obtuse.
>his vision is for them to stream by themselves
Correct. So why have you been crying for the last five posts that they can't do it by themselves and need the "side characters"? You are actively arguing against the very vision you claim to understand.
>he's the biggest numberfag here
Then he's smart enough to know that numbers built on a gimmick are hollow. He's trimming the fat to build a stronger, more sustainable core audience. The only "retardation" is thinking short-term spikes are more important than the project's ultimate goal. You just described his long-term goal and then complained about the steps he's taking to achieve it.

clun~