Thread 106129683

Frankly I put the blame primarily on the EOPs pressuring Haachama to have her "Haachama" persona be her default instead of something that should only be used on special occasions like Fubuki's Kurokami or Ollie's Olivia. There's just not really a feasible way someone would be able to keep up with the expectations to be crazy and weird all the time.

>>106129683 (OP)
Haachama is the real identity. She’s always been weird and crazy. Haato was the fake persona because, at the start, Cover didn’t want an actual fucking psycho to be in Holo.

>>106129683 (OP)
She was crazy from the start, anon. Before she even joined Hololive.

you can stop pretending this is drama now

>>106130484
It's not her fault, her boss hired her when she was still a minor, people forgot he groomed her.

>>106130719
NIJISEETHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKORVdoWU2E
She is an innocent little girl who got groomed by bunch of perverts into turning her lifelong trauma and life struggles into entertainment while suffering alone with no support

>>106129903
FPBP. Cover has always had to reign her in. EOPs just enjoyed the ride.

>>106130530
How is it not drama?

>>106129683 (OP)
>Be 18. Get sent to Philippines and Australia. Get stranded in aus during COVID.
>The nigga thinks Akai is the real persona
She got fucked up dog. Hachaama is the real one.

>>106129683 (OP)
This guy still doesn't get that her haachama persona was just a venting mechanism over the many things overwhelming her psychologically since childhood.

>>106129683 (OP)
Anon, she was my first hola. I loved watching her. Her Dark Souls streams where she practiced her english and I melted whenever she use the estus flask because she would shout "Drink it!" in the cutest fashion ever. She was the first one to make me feel "I get it! Why people are into this uwu shit". This whole Haachama shit was EXACTLY what made me drop her. First I was super weirded out. Then as it kept going I told myself it was a FOTM bit or something. It was when I realized "Haachama" was here to stay and "Haato" was gone that I decided to take my leave. I was happy for her. With Haato venting about her family and her shit time on Australia, this "Haachama" thing was like her stopping giving a fuck and just breaking free, it just so happend that I ended up not liking the "real" her, and I was fine with that. No melty on social media on my part. No resentment towards her choice. Just wished her the best, and quietly took my leave.

>>106130719
>her boss hired her when she was still a minor, people forgot he groomed her
Well he sure did a shit job at it.

>>106132409
Because it makes Hololive look bad

>>106129683 (OP)
>Has a draggingly long schizo arc
>Changed her channel name
>"Haachama is not her default"
ahem...

>>106133601
Thank you anon, I'm with you.

I blame Yahoo. I could have believed Mike was trouble if it was only her but he torched Mel and Coco because he's a fucking coward, he lost Aqua and Shion because he's a cheap coward, and this is the final straw for me.

>>106134493
yahoo is funnily still relevant in japan. they don't really use google there. well at least not back in 2012 when i was there.

>>106133887
I would say it makes them look good given how she they look after her when she's at her lowest.

I blame cover for forcing her to do sexual asmr when she was a minor

>>106135223
>Half a year with no pay, management doesn't give her anything, they restrict her content, don't let her graduate and Haachama has people with bully her over her numbers

>"Looked after"

In the same way a kidnapper looks after their victim, I guess

>>106135328
I had no idea she did asmr in the first place.

>>106135223
>given how she they look after her

>>106135425
Just get rid of >she and it's ok

She has schizophrenia. Her haachama personality, shit parents, japanese shit mental care just helped to accelerate the symptoms.
I know its hard to accept but its over for her. They will put her back in the asylum

>>106135566
>its over for her. They will put her back in the asylum

You can tell this is a nijifag twitter user thread because they intentionally misspell people's names to prevent their posts being seen by people searching those names, because they do the same shit when talking about nijis due to those nijis egosearching all the time. Nijifags shit on their own talents so often that they don't it on reflex.

>>106135774
Meds when?

I keep misremembering her name as "Itai Haato"

>>106135368
>don't let her graduate
Holy schizo

>>106129683 (OP)
>in case of a yab blame foreigners!
Hello kurolive staff

>>106137245
Haachama's own words. She wants to graduate but management won't let her because she has "too much work"

>>106129683 (OP)
>the EOPs pressuring Haachama to have her "Haachama" persona be her default
EOPs don't even watch her anymore and she was the one beating the dead horse

>>106138186
What dead horse?

>>106129683 (OP)
>primarily on the EOPs
but thats covers entire audience

>>106138040
>Haachama's own words. She wants to graduate but management won't let her because she has "too much work"
Clip? Timestamp? stream? Proof ?

Can someone please tell me what even happened?
All day I see these threads and I have no idea what brought them about

>>106138618
Haru Urara..

>>106140222
Haachama had a meltdown and started shitflinging at cover and talents

>>106140153
Watch the stream

>>106140409
So no proof

>>106140463
https://files.catbox.moe/dol4nu.webm

>Even if I wanted to quit, they'd say things like, "But we have projects you are tied to," or "We have future plans lined up," and keep dragging it out. I always thought that was pretty weird.

>>106140514
She just can quit any time she wants to. Honestly she should be thankful, they are doing her a favor.

>>106140514
>Even if I wanted to quit, they'd say things like, "But we have projects you are tied to,"
Yeah, Why should I care if I am quiting?
Are women retarded? (yes, I know they are)

>>106140781
She means they're preventing her from quitting because she has projects

>>106141026
>voluntarily goes into projects
>wtf i can't quit cover is evul

>>106141196
You really are underestimating JP companies.
There's a reason why in Japan there are companies with the sole purpose of helping people to quit their job.

>>106141572
How can it be hard? Just don't show up

>>106141653
Some people have a conscience and a lot of empathy. Haachama is evidently one of them. She felt bad dropping out and leaving more work for others to do or being a nuisance. Japan is a very conflict-avoidant culture. It's beaten into them and creates situations like this where they can easily be exploited. At least until they finally crack.

>>106129683 (OP)
> I put the blame primarily on the EOPs
She became the most unpopular JP because she did a bunch of drama baiting which pisses off JP fans for example she did a graduation bait thumbnail and stream title.
All the EOP "huge haato fans" that are currently currently crawling out of the woodwork are virtue signaling idiots or dramafags. The harsh truth is that she'll be a 2 view once they fire her and it won't affect HoloJP at all. Nobody in Japan cares.

>>106129683 (OP)
I put the blame on holoshit management pulling the plug on her coexist arc that got her a shit ton of views for no reason.
Then I put the blame on holoshit management for the Coco shitstorm that to this day is tormenting her.
Next I put the blame on holoshit management for just having no fucking idea on how to handle her and doing nothing for her while everyone else got projects.

>>106142174
Actually the majority of Japanese Twitter care a lot and are going after Yagoo. Again

>>106144045
Those people who can't be bothered to remove their profile images of their NijiJP oshis?
The ones who were posting anti messages in Miko's chat yesterday?
OK retard.

>>106141026
This is on the same level as you need to come on saturday and sunday because we are paying you more money for it. Theres people out there who don't obsess over money. Being given more money does not mean that it is ok for the company to harass the person. I don't understand in what kind of environment the typical /vt/ard works in but this is typically how real life works. The company pretends to care about everybody but gives opportunities to just some of them while throwing bones to others just for them to shut up. In a medium where everything is random, especially if you get subscribers or not please stop pretending like "good" content actually gets them subs or famous she basically got locked in the role of the statue. We need the statue to be there because its a pillar of what we build but its not important enough to get any care.

>>106129683 (OP)
If haato leave will that be alll of the underage chick's gone? It was only her shion and chris right? Even if covercorp isn't like noripro where the owner tamaki begs people on twitter to draw porn of the underage chick's they hire, it's still pretty fucked up.

>>106142174
>I akshually know how Japan thinks
YWNBJ, go back to larping in >/jp/ and/#/ SEAnigger

Frankly I blame Miko and to a lesser extent, modern society

>>106135774
Some of them just outright hate vtubers and are seething about how a bunch of them are now singing anime OP/EDs
They also dig up shit that happened like 4 years ago too

>>106129683 (OP)
yup

>>106144484
>If haato leave will that be alll of the underage chick's gone? It was only her shion and chris right?
Laplus is around her same age when she joined, Matsuri is also technically just 1-2 years older than Haachama.

>>106141653
You need to walk on eggshells to leave on good terms because their stagnant economy is an employer's market and without a glowing reference you'll never get another job. A disgruntled former employer can have you all but blacklisted from your chosen industry.
Those quitting companies are just employment law firms that help you protect your rights on the way out and isn't at all exclusive to Japan.

Is this the longest con of all time? Haato comes out and says she's retiring the haachama persona, will have grounded streams and just be a normal personality on stream instead of the caricaturistic depiction of her crazy wacky antics. BAM, she stops taking her meds, turns out haachama's replaced haato as the dominant personality and will start a shitstorm and sound the 4th trumpet. She uploads a stream thumbnail with black background, white text, everyone's expecting the graduation announcement, only for her to reveal her sololive

>>106130530
Well it is now.

>>106144987
Laplus was not 16

>>106145358
>Is this the longest con of all time? Haato comes out and says she's retiring the haachama persona
that's not what's happening this time, retard
what's happening now is she's being suspended and eventually fired after shit dies down

>>106144987
well laplus is a stupid whore and what am I saying, so is fucking matsuri
AND matsuri is irrelevant

>>106133601
No one cares shut your fucking louth retarded autist

>>106142080
>>106145161
>>106144436
Just stop this is pathetic

>>106145358
> only for her to reveal her sololive
No sponsor was going to fund her even before this and definitely not after this

>>106133601
I can tell how much of a faggot you are just from this one wall of text. No one cares bitchboy.

>>106150527
>>106153596
Melty?

>>106129683 (OP)
but Anonchama, Fubukis special occasion persona is Nazonazo Kamen