Thread 106205150

I'm fucking done with this garbage company. First it was abusing Haachama, then it was lying about it as if they were the victims, now the resident homocollaber is doing this shit. FUCK hololive and all their bootlicking shills, not even the worst of niji ever pulled shit like this.

take your meds, op

>>106205150 (OP)
OP has a small pp like holostars

>watch only JP
>watch the good one's that enjoy streaming and are only moderately mentally ill
>win
it's that easy

OP living with this much hate in your heart isn't healthy
I hope some time away from them will bring you peace

someone help me out here

Is your cock biggger than OPs? prove it by posting reaction pics

Just saying that maybe Hololive hiring blatant whores like this could be leading to their decline in popularity.

>>106205318
you don't need it anon, the effect from the amulet doesn't stack with your innate racial effect

>>106205150 (OP)
Qrd on why that emoji triggers OP so much? Is it the skin colour not matching OP's brown skin?

>>106205150 (OP)
gonna cry?

you wish you were good enough for her to shame and degrade your tiny skin tag personally

>>106205413
>ur pp small lmao
some gender wars thing from korea if you wanna read it as that

>>106205562
I dont consider korean "men" as men.

>>106205150 (OP)
Just grow a bigger penis.

>>106205150 (OP)
why is she doing the korean radfem misandry hand sign?

>>106205150 (OP)
OP don’t be grumpy,celebrate diversity.

>>106205413
op is korean

>>106205413
he is from worst Korea

>>106205150 (OP)
I always dream of having an argument with these types irl and then they bring up the small PP stuff and I would show them my cock. What then? Now that they can see my PP is not small what's the next move?

>>106205413
She's implying she's seen a penis.

i love having a seven and a half incher

>>106206012
I've seen a penis too

>>106206029
yea mine, in your ass

Haha OP has a small willy.

>>106205641
>>106205641
Gigi’s accessory silhouette made it look like she had a small penis and everyone’s poking fun at it. That’s literally it.

>>106205150 (OP)
Is OP Korean? Or are you afraid Gigi has a bigger penis than you?

>>106205876
KEK this is funnier than Germans being startled by accidental hitler signs.
I mean, this is essentially just a reminder that Koreans have small dicks lmao

>>106205150 (OP)
Obvious Korean is Korean. Go play your gacha games.

>>106206055
Slut.

>>106205150 (OP)
Are you Korean? That emoji doesn't mean the same in the west

>>106205150 (OP)
I don't know wtf these messages are supposed to mean but I was done with Hololive after the recent Korone TERF wizard game stream. And I put that squarely on the company, not Korone.
Chuds replying "ywnbaw" - correct, I'm a cis male, and ywda

Context?

>>106205150 (OP)
Holo EN was a mistake, if en wasn't here Hachama would still have her EN niche and be loved by eveyone.

>>106205150 (OP)
Imagine how small your penis would have to be to feel triggered by this image.

Isn't she incredibly fat? I don't understand why the internet is full of ugly chicks who think they're hot chicks by association with the chicks men actually want to fuck. Who cares if you're insulted by a fat, fats aren't people.

>>106206944
What exactly does it mean in the west besides " a little bit"

>>106207091
She was making fun of the Gigi shape that looks like dick. I don't know if the people offended ITT are real or just pretending.

>>106207091
Most people here are fat too though

>>106207145
The same but it doesn't reference all Korean men or men of any one race and it's not considered a mysandrist symbol, just a funny joke.

>>106207091
She apparent lost alot of weight, but still got that fat ass though.

>>106205150 (OP)
Are you Korean by any chance

>>106207297
>alot
Based.

>>106207145
It can also mean "tiny penis."
Still no idea what the messages are supposed to mean. Posting the emoji multiple times doesn't mean anything that I'm aware of.

>>106205150 (OP)
>>106207145
this is actually a reference to liz twisting gigis nipples when they met

>>106205371
>married
>doesn't prostitute herself online for simpbux
>actively does everything she can to be repel GFEshitters because she isn't interested in being 4000 virgins' communal girlfriend
She's the least whorish person in the whole corpo tho? One of the few succeeding off of talent alone instead of digital prostitution

>>106207722
She's poking fun at Gigi cause she was addressing her silhouette looking like it has a dick hanging. It's literally just shitposting from them and yet retards are getting mad or pretending to be mad which is just as retarded.

>>106207810
Ah, okay.
What a terrible example. This is the straw that broke OP's back?

>>106207871
This is equally stupid.
Touch grass, OP.

>>106207810
>ERB got to twist GG's nipples
I will now anti ERB.

>>106205150 (OP)
I know what you are

>>106207145
In the west it just means a small amount of anything. Often describing something small, it's usually used alongside the word "teensie" and is mostly used when talking to children.

In south korea it means tiny dick because they have some weird ass war going on between guys and girls and it's actually fucking insane.

Why is it normal for people to make fun of small penises when its something you have no control over?

>>106207722
The difference is that in Korea the message is more like: "Korean men are misogynistic due to their tiny cocks, don't waste your time with them and get on with a white man instead

>>106208134
They're doing it in the West, too. It's easy to stoke women vs. men tensions, and it's effective at smothering class consciousness.

>>106205150 (OP)
any korean to give an update to the situation

I would frot with Gigi's below average gigock

>>106205150 (OP)
OP is Korean?

>>106208333
Someone did the measurements and she's got a nice 5 incher flaccid. Pretty average.

>>106208148
Same reason we make fun of every other life factor you have no control over like race, height, facial structure, etc

>>106208245
It's different because non-asians are not so insecure about the size of their dicks.

OP is Korean.

What I would love to see is drama — I demand drama and a graduation.

>>106206405
>this is essentially just a reminder that Koreans have small dicks lmao
so do nips and changs

wait is all the misandry drama lately an extension of the korean cuck fetish shit? fucking shameful

>>106205150 (OP)
How to say "I have a small dick" without saying it

LMAO, I hear there's a stretching technique Asians have found out, you might want to start looking into it and getting to work

>>106205150 (OP)
I really don't understand Liz. Her entire existence and entire reason for joining Hololive seems to be this very weird obsession with trying to spite unicorns (the main money maker of hololive)

Like I can even understand not liking them, some people are really put off by it and that's just how it is. But this is a weird sort of hate she can't seem to let go of and needs to publicly broadcast frequently. Why not just do your own thing? What's with this obsessive need to take it to the unicorns who don't even watch her to begin with?

>>106207767
It's a crime that the rest of these doujins haven't been translated yet.

>>106205150 (OP)
>First Nerissa collabs with a group of female korean chuubas with said people obsessively praising the shit out of her.
>Now this
>Addendum: Kronii doing the same gesture but in 3D a few months back
I'm noooooticing.

>>106205150 (OP)
Umm.... I don't get it? I mean, I know it means "little bit". I know it can also be used to make fan of a man's genitalia. What I don't get is, why did you felt so attacked by this? Why were you so sure it was aimed towards you/people like you? And why, just why, would you self report this hard by making this thread to let the world know you were this affected? On a site where everyone is anonymous, meaning they won't pull their punches when they make fun of you and your small penis? Do you have a humilliation fetish anon?

>>106210138
>I really don't understand Liz. Her entire existence and entire reason for joining Hololive seems to be this very weird obsession with trying to spite unicorns (the main money maker of hololive)
It was to sing.
She's doing that.
She clearly doesn't know nor care what kind of culture war some third worlders are hosting on a mongolian birdwatching forum.

>>106207869
>Doesnt stream
>Most vtubers fans are in this for parasocial reasons whether that reason is a virtual friend or a virtual girlfriend
>Even those that deny this are heavily invested into vtuber lives like are they sick are they ok are they doing well OFF SCREEN which is by definition PARASOCIALISM
You are a fucking retard if you think that anyone watches this lowest of the low slop form of entertainment "just for fun". No one sits through hours and hours of boring streams with slop FOTM games "just for fun". If you do, you might wanna kill yourself because you are a literal brainlet NPC.

>>106210236
which is why she keeps bringing it up over and over again. Because she doesn't care. She mentions it more than literally any other holo, even Shiori and Kronii, but yeah, she definitely, absolutely doesn't care.

>>106210342
Surely you have a timestamp of her saying this even once, right?

>>106210138
Even if you were right (you're not) she could go harder, at the end of the day if you're butthurt enough to think any form of anti-unicorn statements hurts you, you might want to think why they are made and if the group you align with is somehow actually in the wrong and not the other side

>>106205150 (OP)
Watch out, OP.

Still not watching Phase, BrownVTM.

>>106205150 (OP)
South Koreasisters... Don't look...

op has small weenie lol

If you're Korean please understand she does not mean it in a misandrist way. It's purely a sexually motivated fetish thing.

>>106205959
rape

>>106205959
Clearly you should buy a truck with gigantic tires and lift up the chassis as much as possible.
Then everyone can know how large your dick is.
After all, you should be proud of your 2-incher.

>>106210138
I dont think she give two shits about unicorns, she just wants to have fun

MR.KIM SUN PARK GET DOWN

Good thing I'm a crub. I never have to worry about corpo drama again.

>>106205959
>what's the next move?
They call the cops and you go into the sex offender register.

>>106208134
>they have some weird ass war going on between guys and girls
It's because feminism in Korea is getting close to both sexes having all the same rights, but men are angry that they get to have the same rights and benefits without the mandatory military service.
Many are saying that this is giving the women a strong career and financial advantage, since they can work in the 18-21 months that young men have to serve.

>>106205150 (OP)
is it the change of season that have women behaving so uppity?

>>106205150 (OP)
THIS NIGGA GOT A SMALL DICK, HHAHAHA

>>106212199
What "rights" are women lacking?

>>106205150 (OP)
What she gonna do when I slap her in the face with mandingo?
Sue me?

>>106212199
>It's because feminism in Korea is getting close to both sexes having all the same rights
anon it has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with the dating pool.

That said, between the two I find the guys much, much funnier to make fun of.
Dudes stormed a fucking gacha game's HQ because a character's swimsuit wasn't sexy enough.
They tried to send a blimp to china because a hoyo character pinched too hard.
The guy they got to do the job ran off with the money and sent this little limp-dick thing instead.
No, the blimp is not that far away. It's fucking tiny.

>>106212354
I'm completely on the men's side cause femenist crazies have taken the battlefield to sexy women in games and gacha.

But in fairness women got that crazy in the first place because the brand of neo-Confucian religion that Korea adopted is utterly psychotic about class and age and gender roles and knowing your place.

>>106212354
>What "rights" are women lacking?
Just imagine the most uppity jumped up radical feminist you can conceive of. It's probably pretty close to South Korean feminism. They absolutely need the following rights or they're oppressed:
1) Total power over life and death via abortion on demand.
2) The ability to send any man to prison any time based on their word alone.
3) Any crime committed by a man against a woman must be punished as a hate crime.

>>106207297
People say things like this and then post pics of vtubers that are supposedly 'hot' like that Orca bitch and then she's balding and the most painfully mid girl to ever exist.

>>106212782
>1) Total power over life and death via abortion on demand.
This one needs to be a basic human right.
A fetus is not a person.

how did this retarded thread get 100 replies
it's just OP crying about his tiny cock
/vt/ really is fucking worthless

>>106212987
Because OP keeps coming in here to justify himself and it's funny as fuck

>>106212856
>A fetus is not a person.
You know it's very funny: One of the biggest proponents of this idea is named Judith Jarvis Thompson, famous for her 'people seed' argument. When confronted with the fact her logic also justifies infanticide she handwaved the criticism by saying that people already know killing babies is intrinsically bad. That never surprised me, since women are allergic to accountability in ethics and in life. Ever the deontologists, women.

>>106212987
Well this is the Taiwan issue but for Koreans so if Yagoo ever want to make HoloKR this bitch is going to have to naked dogeza apologize

>>106212987
>/vt/ really is fucking worthless
there's a reason /jp/ considers this place a punishment board

People keep talking about ERB looks but I cant find the a fucking picture.

>>106212591
Idk, sounds based to me

>>106212987
There's nothing else to talk about.

>>106205150 (OP)
hot
what do I need to do to get her to send me these

>>106207871
This board has been shit ever since the 4chan crash and the Holotower exodus

oh wow the holoEN with the dullest personality and some of the lowest numbers is the bitter misandrist

>>106213033
Anon it's not infanticide. It's a lump of cells tethered to the woman, which in this case can be unwanted like a tumor.
If you want a kid, find a willing mother or adopt one who was already unwanted and forced to be born.

>>106213033
Why is killing babies intrinsically bad?

>>106216356
>It's a lump of cells tethered to the woman
>>106216429
>Why is killing babies intrinsically bad?
Day after day I am reminded I live in a Sodomite culture.

>>106216660
You don't even have your own kids, what is there to talk about with you?

>>106208185
>in Korea the message is more like: "Korean men are misogynistic due to their tiny cocks, don't waste your time with them
In all fairness, this isn't wrong.

>>106216660
Man, anon, you care about young children so much.
So you work at the local orphanage, right? You're taking care of all the unwanted kids? You're going to parent them all the way to adulthood like they deserve, aren't you?

>>106216716
>You don't even have your own kids,
Well Anon I'm on 4chan's vtuber board so I can say with 100% confidence neither do you. Good job being aggressively hypocritical though.
>>106216785
>the local orphanage
What fucking planet do you live on?

>>106211969
You never have to worry about streams either

>>106216872
Joke's on you, it was that way before she graduated too so nothing changed.

>>106216815
>neither do you
I don't, which is why I have no need to be overly moralistic. But it is extremely hypocritical to judge women who want to abort their fetuses when you neither have the slightest capability of getting in the same position as them, nor even have at least had a close experience by being a father. tl;dr you should shut up about things that's not your business and never will be

>polshit
Haven't I suffered enough already

>>106216815
>What fucking planet do you live on?
Wait, so what do you mean? Why do you pretend to care about pumping out more kids when you won't even support the ones already out there?
I thought you cared about these children. You wanted them to live, right? So why aren't you there making sure they grow up?

No one should be offended by this, size doesn't even matter.

>>106216967
>I have no need to be overly moralistic
>it is extremely hypocritical to judge women
It's funny to watch you claim not to be overly moralistic but then immediately start moralizing.
>>106217019
>Wait, so what do you mean?
Whatever mental narrative you've created for yourself in an attempt to wield it as a rhetorical device full of pretentious assumptions, surely.

>>106217081
>Whatever mental narrative you've created for yourself in an attempt to wield it as a rhetorical device full of pretentious assumptions, surely.
>Women NEED to take these children to term! The children MUST live
>what? The children are born? Fuck them then. They're on their own.
Do you see the issue here, anon?
Do you care about the children and want them to grow up, or do you only care about the fetus and not the child itself?

>>106212835
Would, both of them.

>>106217081
>start moralizing
I'm only calling out your bullshit. Moralizing is what you do - talk about things you've no idea about but pretend like you're a paragon of virtue or something

>>106217167
>Do you see the issue here, anon?
No I'm pretty much just skimming what you're saying because it's sophistry.
>>106217195
>I'm only calling out your bullshit. Moralizing is what you do
Zero self-awareness.

>>106217229
>no rebuttal
I accept your concession

>>106205413
OP is Korean

>>106217229
>No I'm pretty much just skimming what you're saying because it's sophistry.
Oh now suddenly it's sophistry.
Here, I'll try to use small words for you.
You: Mother MUST give birth. child must LIVE.
Me: Child is born. Now what?

>>106217276
My rebuttal is that you're a hypocrite and you're not even smart enough to be aware that you're a hypocrite. The former is not so bad. The latter is terminal.
>>106217299
>now suddenly it's sophistry.
No it's been sophistry from the start. Loaded questions are an obvious sign of that.

>>106207091
Because you would still fuck a fat woman so it doesn't matter if they're ugly or not

>>106217414
>n-no, you!
Weak

>>106217414
>No it's been sophistry from the start. Loaded questions are an obvious sign of that.
How is it loaded, anon? I'm just following your logic and asking what happens after the kid is born. Who's going to take care of it if the mother can't/doesn't want it? Will it be you?

>>106205150 (OP)
only rice dicked asians (including pajeets) and trannies get mad at this shit

>>106217481
>How is it loaded, anon?
Literally three consecutive loaded questions:
>So you work at the local orphanage, right?
>You're taking care of all the unwanted kids?
>You're going to parent them all the way to adulthood like they deserve, aren't you?
You're basically throwing fallacious rhetorical devices out and hoping they stick. This might come as a shock to you but ethical arguments have rules, and you've broken most of them. You do realize ethics is a codified field of philosophical study yes?

>>106209944
Nips and changs don't let women get to them.

I came in here expecting more chuuba sph and somehow you guys turned it into an abortion debate
/vt/ never fails to disappoint

I like how this thread just shows that threads /here/ are filled either with fake engagement or actual anons who wouldn’t watch a stream to save their life.

>>106217695
It's 100% korean thing.

>>106217874
>You're basically throwing fallacious rhetorical devices out and hoping they stick. This might come as a shock to you but ethical arguments have rules, and you've broken most of them. You do realize ethics is a codified field of philosophical study yes?
Anon, the logic is very simple.
Just answer the question.
What happens after the child that you want to force the mother to give birth to is born?

>>106218824
>the logic is very simple.
>Just answer the question.
What you refer to as "logic" is a loaded question intended to deflect from the topic, and it's inherently laced with an appeal to emotion on top of that. That's pretty much the opposite of logic. Let me put this in a way your chimp-like brain can understand: Segueing from abortion to orphanages is a whataboutism.

>>106205413
It means groomer outted alert

>>106219100
>Segueing from abortion to orphanages is a whataboutism.
How.
It's literally cause and effect.
If no abortion, child is born.
If child unwanted, sent to orphanage.
Why do you care so much about the fetus when you seemingly don't give a shit about the child's life afterward?

>>106219305
>How.
Quite literally the textbook definition.

>>106219568
So, are you gonna start caring about all the orphans out there in the world?

>>106219568
Anon.
It's a simple fucking question.
The baby is born.
What happens next?
How many times will you keep deflecting from this
one
simple
question?

>>106205150 (OP)
Oh no, OP is Korean!

What is even the fucking context of this picture I don't watch her

This thread is proof that women post on 4chan.

>>106219630
>>106219790
I wonder if you realize how absurd it is to use the plight of orphans as a justification for terminating pregnancy with no restrictions? It's remarkable how obscene your worldview is. Like I said: Sodomite culture.

>>106220137
So you don't care about already born children then? I see where you stand. Birth them and throw them to the wolves

>>106220137
Again, anon.
What happens to the child after it's born?
Stop deflecting.
You force the woman to give birth to the fetus.
Now what?

>>106220194
>>106220209
Notice how the NPC repeats itself when it runs out of pre-programmed rhetorical devices.

>>106220273
>y-you're a bot!
kek, someone didn't like being called out for the heartless bastard that you are

>>106220273
>STILL no answer to who takes care of an unwanted child after the pregnancy goes through.
I rest my case.
You're just a shitty virtue signaller.

>>106219882
GG had a tiny penis like shape on her silhouette for a justice accessory reveal.

>>106220273
Well you are completely abstaining from answering the question presented. You say it's sophistry, rhetorical or whatever, but in the end it's a valid question to ask for people who demand children be birthed. If a child is born and unwanted, what do you propose happens to them? Do you think they will be taken care of? Will you be willing to take them on as your own as your hard stance is that the kid must live? Force them into an orphanage where they won't get the care they need? Onto the streets? Force the mother to take care of the kid, where the kid will surely end up worse off anyway due to being completely unwanted? You can call it what you want but they are legitimate questions to talk about when it comes to forced births.

>>106216660
I tried to rewatch friends, The chandler joey scenes aren't as funny as i remember them.

>>106220518
I completely agree with you, that other anon is hysterical. Kids who do not have adequate care waiting for them should just be aborted. In fact, if they don't have a stable household including a father, they should be aborted. If they have genetic problems that guarantee their lives will be insufferable, they should be aborted. In fact, this should be done with or without the parents' consent, because it's all for the good of the children whose lives we will make good or we will just take it from them. Because to do otherwise would be just morally unsound.

>>106220679
So are you gonna help those children in bad situations or not?

>>106220357
>>106220422
So which is it? Am I a heartless bastard or a virtue signal? Don't you have some more babies to sacrifice on the altar of convenience?
>>106220518
>Well you are completely abstaining from answering the question presented
Yes, because I don't engage loaded questions. You want to argue? Follow the rules of argument. Judith Jarvis Thompson followed the rules, and she basically wrote the rhetorical book on the modern pro-abortion movement.

Beyond that, I can only role my eyes at the attempt to link abortion to orphan child care. The rhetorical gotcha falls apart because it's presupposed on causality in an argument that refuses to allow causality to be a premise. Why should I indulge in that link when I'm not allowed to lean into the other extreme? Here's a causal argument: In order to get pregnant what act should you also avoid doing?
>but rape!
Exceptions are not rules.

>>106220679
So are you gonna help the children who weren't aborted in those situations or do you just care about the unborn ones?

>>106220892
Just say you hate children bro, this is getting dull

>>106220848
What do you mean children in bad situations? There won't be any. They'll be in good situations or they'll be aborted. We're in complete agreement.

>>106220848
Anon you've encountered the strange and illustrious "what race is it?" abortion appreciator. If you think I'm a vile bastard you should upon his majesty with disgust and horror.

British slags just having a laff at the size of your cock innit guvnor just throw a sosij down her fish hole like every other bloke she knows!

>>106220892
>So which is it? Am I a heartless bastard or a virtue signal? Don't you have some more babies to sacrifice on the altar of convenience?
separate anons, anon.
I think you're just a retard who doesn't actually think about the consequences of what he's saying.
It's easy to say YEAH DON'T KILL FETUSES THEY'RE PEOPLE without actually thinking about what that means.
You believe that they're people and need to be born. Which means they need to be fed, clothed, have their diapers changed, educated, and socialized. For at bare minimum 18 years.
Who's going to do this when the family itself does not want or cannot provide for the child?

It's not a hypothetical. It's a real situation that has happened and continues to happen globally, and you're refusing to acknowledge it as a consequence of that policy.

>>106221198
ya silly sod she's a carpet muncher

>>106220892
>In order to get pregnant what act should you also avoid doing?
Anon if I crush my thumb with a hammer trying to build a project, should I just let it fester and rot because I shouldn't have tried it? Or can I go to the hospital and have it treated?

Why are christians even on this board, in this hobby? Isn't the fan worship of these girls bordering on idolatry, pun not intended?

>>106221315
>separate anons, anon.
Yeah I'm aware. What you are not aware of is that the entire argument hinges on an absurd chase to hound someone down two roads of either hating children or a virtue signaler. There is absolutely zero point in engaging with either railroaded rhetorical gotcha.
>Who's going to do this when the family itself does not want or cannot provide for the child?
Hmm I wonder if there might have been some course of action that would have prevented pregnancy altogether? Some kind of way of living that might prevent that issue? Nah that's crazy everyone should just be a hedonistic sodomite at all times and justify it retroactively.
>It's not a hypothetical.
Are you sure? The child is a hypothetical. Hypothetically not a human being.

>>106221900
>>106221628

>>106205413
There are two options
Either he's a Korean or he has small PP
It's not the first one

>>106221900
First understand these facts

1. a separate soul does not exist
2. all of society is dependent on utilitarianism
3. one god or eternal heaven is delusion

That makes it more than ethical to not only pursue abortion, but also euthanasia, killing people to save food, etc.

Didn't read any of your argument with the other anons btw

>>106205150 (OP)
>troon discord raid

Context?

>>106221628
>>106221997
>it's just an accident bro
False equivalence.
>>106222054
>first, accept three premises without question
No, I don't think I will.

>>106222133
GG made a small penis joke with herself as subject

>>106222159
>False equivalence.
How so?
It was an accident that resulted in an unwanted result for the woman's body.
Why can't she get it treated?
And if she can't get it treated, what happens next?

>>106222159
>cannot let go of basic delusion to grasp basic fundamentals
Talking in depth with you is worthless and the faggots in this thread are retarded for trying. Sage

>>106221900
>Hmm I wonder if there might have been some course of action that would have prevented pregnancy altogether? Some kind of way of living that might prevent that issue? Nah that's crazy everyone should just be a hedonistic sodomite at all times and justify it retroactively.
so your stance is that unwanted pregnancies are a punishment for engaging in premarital sex and that tampering with this is wrong, and it doesn't really have anything to do with children?

>>106222231
>It was an accident that resulted in an unwanted result for the woman's body.
That's how so. That exact sequence of words. "Accident" is arbitrary and loaded. What is an "accident" exactly? If you fuck somebody without protection is it an accident? You are playing a semantic game.

>>106205371
Hololive has always hired whores, dude. The whores made it what it is now.

The faggot crying about the small PP shit is the same as the abortion one btw. He's a Korean fundie and he is motivated by seethe for Korean feminism over logic, so you cannot win through reason.

>>106222375
>so your stance is that unwanted pregnancies are a punishment
Can your brain differentiate between the words "consequence" and "punishment"?

>>106210243
>anyone watches this lowest of the low slop form of entertainment "just for fun".

>>106222537
>consequence
It's only a consequence because an irrational society makes it so. Abortion is part of control over life, the process, the rates. If we cannot let go of the unease of controlling life then we cannot cast off the necessary steps to become gods ourselves and create and weave life without restraint.

Ironically we must be comfortable first with ceasing life for the most inane shit to reach the post-moral state required to be able to control and create it.

>>106222388
No, "accident" isn't arbitrary nor loaded. It clearly was unintended. Unless you're implying they intentionally conceived just so they could abort it and are now hiding it for some reason?
Anon, if you fuck someone and get an STD, should you be allowed to treat it?

>>106216660
>Sodomite
Satan is the true Lord and Christ is the false prophet of the spiteful material god.

>>106222783
That was a pretty good cringe, been a while since someone got me that hard.

>>106222537
well, it doesn't have to be a consequence if abortion is legal, now does it? women could choose to not have the baby, instead. you want to make it illegal in order to force this consequence upon them. which sounds a bit like a punishment, although I admit I don't have the dictionary definition in hand at the moment.

>>106222701
Anon you are talking to a christian. You will not convince him through reason or appeal to compassion. He is a cultist. Just give it up.

>>106208134
A radical feminist group uses it as their logo, therefore anybody who uses it or any similar hand gesture is one of them and must be cancelled.

>christcucks playing victim again
and the world goes round

>>106222681
>the necessary steps to become gods ourselves
Bruh.
>>106222701
>No, "accident" isn't arbitrary nor loaded. It clearly was unintended.
Okay Anon let's look at it this way: If I willingly put a gun with one bullet in the cylinder up to my head and pull the trigger, with a 1 in 6 chance of blowing my brains all over the wall, was it an accident if I die?

>>106205150 (OP)
OP is a Korean dog.

>>106212354
>>106212199
>>106212782
isn't Korea ruled by women? (as in, politically.)

>>106222991
No, Koreans are mostly ruled by ultraconservatives. They are insane chuds. It's why parents of girls like Kronii and Ina leave for Canada. The country hides its third world mindset under plastic and neon lights.

>>106222991
No, the chairman of the Samsung group is a guy.

>>106216660
>all these femoids and weak males seething about a normal person caring about the lives of children
This is how you know you're right and virtuous. Keep up the fight, anon.

>>106222850
>well, it doesn't have to be a consequence if abortion is legal, now does it?
Kinda missing the forest for the trees, Anon. The pregnancy is the consequence. Termination thereof doesn't change the fact it happened.
>women could choose to not have the baby, instead. you want to make it illegal in order to force this consequence upon them
They forced the consequence on themselves, with the exception of women who are raped. As far as I'm aware there's plenty of people that are against abortion as a get-out-of-the-consequences-of-my-actions-free card but would compromise on the question of rape related pregnancies. Not that it matters since the argument is never JUST about rape victims it's always about total no questions asked fetus removal.

>>106216660
Most women get abortions to serve the greater good, such as to preserve their own life or to save time and money, all for duties that keep the world going. Abortion as a casual sex contraceptive is a myth and chud propaganda, it is all in service of preserving human society.

The vast majority of women (like 85%) hold such an extreme level of social responsibility they seem like they don't because responsibility is so natural to them men don't even notice it.

>>106223152
>right and virtuous
Morality is subjective

>>106222949
>If I willingly put a gun with one bullet in the cylinder up to my head and pull the trigger, with a 1 in 6 chance of blowing my brains all over the wall, was it an accident if I die?
Now THIS is false equivalence.
See the difference is you can't exactly come back from having your brain splattered across the wall.
However, you can get an abortion, which removes the problem and allows the woman to continue to live a normal life.

I've been trying to ease you into it but since you're clearly thicker than a milkshake, I'll tell you straight.
What you're describing is punishment.
You want to punish the woman (but not the man?) for having sex.
You don't care about the child, as after it's born you're perfectly fine letting it rot away in a dumpster or orphanage.
The only thing you want to do is hurt the woman.

>>106205150 (OP)
kill yourself korean retard
better yet, have sex

>>106223232
Right? Like what if the child consents?

>>106223232
True, in the sense that we can be specific about what constitutes good and evil, and allowing whores and fuckboys to kill babies is evil.

>>106223251
>What you're describing is punishment.
Pregnancy resulting from consensual sex being described as a "punishment", contingent on whether women are allowed to ditch the consequences of their actions at a whim, is an amazingly on-point description of that sodomite culture I mentioned earlier. Thanks for the laugh.

Christ is King.

>>106223422
Again, so this begs the question
The woman is forced to birth the child.
Now what? You got your wish and the woman had the kid. You gave it life.
Now what? Do you care if it continues living?

>>106223442
It's always really funny when people try to depict a middle eastern carpenter who advocated for giving all your shit away, and the result is a white guy with a massive crown and expensive clothes.

>>106223306
out of 10!

>>106223422
ah
so again, you confirm that all you give a shit about is hurting the woman for having sex.
You don't care about children or else you'd actually take care of them after birth.
This isn't about the child at all, is it?

>>106223533
>The woman is forced to birth
More semantic games that ever so subtly imply women have to be forced to accept the consequences of their own actions. More sexist and infantilizing toward women than anything I could ever come up with.

>>106223251
NTA but banning abortion is extremely important as a political tool to prevent the collapse of your own civilization. If left to their own devices, women will not have an average of two children each. (but to be honest, women's education is an even more serious problem)

As for the moral aspect, I am not personally opposed to it on principle even though I find it despicable.

>>106223571
>See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.
Colossians 2:8

>>106223664
>so again, you confirm
You have this thing called a confirmation bias. You can look it up.

>>106220892
>Don't you have some more babies to sacrifice on the altar of convenience?
Don't you have some more children to sacrifice on the altar of inconvenience?
stop being retarded, mothers have no obligation to take care of the child they gave birth to, preventing abortions will not change this fact and could easily make this more common out of spite.
>>106222537
consequences that can be avoided with treatment are punishments.
imagine if i refused to treat your stab wound but i didnt morally agree with treating retards, youre being punished for being a retard, something you usually cant help.
>>106223156
>with the exception of women who are raped
retard most of the usa abortion laws dont exclude rape and incest, and if all the abortion clinics are shut down because its illegal then how will these women get treatment even if rape and incest were excluded, no one is doing the job anymore because you banned it for the most part.
its like banning dental except when someones teeth is rotting.

This is who you're arguing with btw

>>106223686
That's Paul trying to turn the teachings of Jesus into a tool he can use to command a cult btw.

>>106205150 (OP)
>use emote
>give some rando a melty

>>106220892
>Exceptions are not rules.
Yes but the vast majority of abortions are done in response to rape, like 98%.
>But the women don't choose to
Women can't choose. To be seduced is to be raped.

abortion rules

>>106223762
>mothers have no obligation to take care of the child they gave birth to
Ah but apparently the state does. Interesting, isn't it?
>consequences that can be avoided with treatment are punishments.
That's about the kind of mentality I'd expect from a fedora, yeah.
>retard most of the usa abortion laws dont exclude rape and incest
Probably because nobody's interested in compromising on those points. It's all or nothing, especially since there's retards like you running around.

>>106220892
>In order to get pregnant what act should you also avoid doing?
Sex. The man should abstain from offering sex to the woman to avoid her getting pregnant. Very good! Now you start to understand why Korean women have to hold their men to some standards.

>>106223673
>More semantic games that ever so subtly imply women have to be forced to accept the consequences of their own actions.
The consequences... You mean the child right?
I thought this was about killing babies. That's what you said, wasn't it? So is this about women's consequences, or the life of the child?
Because you still haven't answered what happens to the child.

Reminder that China has the most abortions in the world and is able to ascend to the most successful country in the world

>>106223985
>is this about women's consequences, or the life of the child?
They are literally the same thing. Do you have brain damage?

>board of simps supports child murder
no surprise there

don't worry anon i support murdering you too

>>106224047
It's alright, I understand that you associate your cult beliefs with fact and goodness. Everyone has their downsides

>>106224015
>They are literally the same thing. Do you have brain damage?
They are not.
One is about punishing someone.
The latter is a lifetime investment.
You just want the child to be born without giving a shit what happens after. It could be thrown in the dumpster for all you care as long as the woman knows not to have sex again.

>>106224047
Why do you expect any different? This board is a majority brown now that it's a majority phase/niji/ligger fans, and niji+ligger fans specifically are more female and trooned out.
No man that parrots feminist propaganda is getting pussy or a partner with his looks or value he provides.

Remember that vtubing would not exist if Japan didn't take this course of history including purging christcucks and never letting them take power. Anyone on this board espousing christcuck morality is off topic.

>>106224172
>browns
>feminists
It is you thirdies obsessed with rules created 1600 years to serve european politics

>>106224155
>You just want the child to be born without giving a shit what happens after. It could be thrown in the dumpster for all you care as long as the woman knows not to have sex again.
It's amazing how elaborate your fantasies of infanticide are. Kinda creepy to be honest.

>>106224119
Any morality you claim to have is derived from inherently spiritual cultures that believed in a higher power, and the philosophers and scholars these cultures produced.

>>106224263
>a stopgap that has served its purpose and can be discarded is the final word of all morality
hearty kek

>>106224251
>No, I don't care what happens to the child afterwards
Glad you could finally admit it.

>>106224155
>You just want the child to be born without giving a shit what happens after.
how about... parents take care of their children? like everyone else everywhere since always?

>>106224186
>gets nuked by ChristCHADS
This is what created VTubing
otherwise Japs would be raping the rest of mainland asia and SEA without producing anything of value

>>106224337
Who are you quoting?

>>106224353
The atom bomb was made possible by Jews and Hindus

>>106224344
>how about... parents take care of their children? like everyone else everywhere since always?
Except it doesn't happen, anon.
You know this.
Often the abortions are for people who absolutely cannot take care of the children either mentally or financially.
This results in either the child getting abandoned or in the worst cases killed.
And in the former case you now have an unwanted child who'll likely have a miserable life in a foster home or an orphanage.
This is reality.

>>106224353
>ChristCHADS
kek there goes the mask.

>>106224458
Right to Life is not Right to Thrive.
Simple as.

>>106223910
>the state
yes thats literally it job, the job of a government is to take care of its people.
however the government saves money when it performs abortions because they wont have to take care of the child if the mom abandons it.
its less expensive to perform an abortion then to raise a child.
>>106224047
fetus' arent children yet retard, we support fetal destruction if it means the fetus doesnt have to grow into a child to then suffer by existing in this shitty world.
>>106224172
incels exist here too and they arent getting pussy either, so no one getting pussy here is the default.
>>106224251
>still refusing to answer what you think becomes of the children you force into existence
anon, im starting to think you were also abandoned by your mother because she couldnt get an abortion and now want to force that same trauma onto a new generation.
>>106224344
you think the declining birthrates is just a cultural thing, part of why people arent having children is they cant afford to retard.
in nature, its not uncommon for animals to not have offspring, abandon the offspring they have or even eating them if it means surviving, they can always make a new one when conditions are better for it since if they die trying to save their children, the child wont make it either.

>this entire thread
Why do Americans have to follow these exact order and set of arguments? It's always the same

>abortion is murder!
>no, abortion is freedom!
>women should not have sex if they don't want the baby! they have no right to murder the baby!
>women can be raped! women should not be punished for removing a part of their own body!
>that part is a living being! to remove the part is to kill them! to kill a living being is murder! if it is ok to kill them, it is ok to kill anyone!
>you people are obsessed with killing everyone! also you don't care about the child after it is born!

etc etc.
No one in the debate even stops to engage anyone outside because they can only parrot the points they've been taught in their shitty two-sided system

>>106224575
>saves money
>expensive
Ah so now we're talking money? Great, I love when expenses and savings are part of the conversation regarding the termination of unborn children. Definitely not a genuinely disgusting argument. Definitely.

>>106224612
Why should I bother listening to or debating someone who isn't going to change their mind anyways despite me being correct?

How the fuck did we get on to the topic of abortion, last time I was in this thread people were just calling OP a faggot

>>106224458
I'm pretty sure child neglect is illegal, just punish the parents if they go too far.

>>106224575
let's not pretend women are killing their own children for survival these days in western society. It's largely a matter of confort, to pursue a better lifestyle.

>>106224670
>How the fuck did we get on to the topic of abortion
From the Korean 4B movement, and some people got triggered over being called sodomites on 4chan.

>>106224659
I don't even know which side YOU were on but this is clearly cope from not having anything but stock arguments to fling back at expected answers. The discourse has been basically preplanned to stay within certain parameters for decades. Neither of you are actually thinking, you are parroting a controlled argument.

>>106224657
>Definitely not a genuinely disgusting argument.
It's practical, anon. Reality. The money to raise a child doesn't spring out of the ether the moment he exits the womb.
It's clear that you only care about the unborn children, not the life of the actual born ones.

>>106224310
It's not a stopgap, it's the foundation of morality-- of THE morality that exists in first world countries and you wouldn't even be attempting(and failing) to argue about morality without its existence.
Let us know how your atheistic cultures are fairing currently.

>>106224749
And?

>>106213033
>That never surprised me, since women are allergic to accountability in ethics and in life. Ever the deontologists, women.
Early feminists like suffragettes were overwhelmingly anti abortion

>>106224762
>It's not a stopgap,
It is.
Modern chemistry has its foundation in alchemy but that doesn't mean I load up my philosopher's stone when I need to take some meds.
It's not a hard concept to grasp.

>>106224751
>It's practical
Yes abortion is, at its very heart as an issue, a convenience. Yet people like you have to dress it up in the most gay filigree imaginable and convince yourself it's not only tolerable but some kind of objective moral good. You're disgusting.

>>106224782
And what is the point? You are not defending anything. The debate is designed not to be won by either side, at least not possible with the constrained arguments both sides are allowed by the media to use.

>>106224843
>convince yourself it's not only tolerable but some kind of objective moral good.
I love how you'll say this up until you get the wrong chick pregnant, and then suddenly it'll be okay because you're an exception.

Like it happens every damn time.

>>106224843
To be free of suffering is the point of life. All "convenience" and "indulgence" is essentially good, anything that detracts from it is bad. Pro life values were important for social stability once, now it's no longer necessary because men and women don't need it to be happy. That's all it is

>>106224849
There is no point. I'm right.