Thread 106212379

Considering the recent drama, is it karma? Yeah, I think it's karma

shouldn't have preached to the wrong crowd

>>106212379 (OP)
Is shondo's manager okay? Has anybody checked in on him?

>>106212423
Michael is currently taking care of her in the hospital yes.

>>106212423
Michael loves it when Shondo has a freak out and starts biting and clawing.

>>106212379 (OP)
This is the one time I'll defend Shondo in this whole debacle. She is 100% spot on in this pic, that "manager" is grooming that indie

>>106212379 (OP)
if anything this would be good karma for her

>>106212379 (OP)
>Considering the recent drama
care to explain?

>>106212809
Not every male in the vicinity is a "groomer" you misandrist retard

>>106213136
every male vtuber in the vicinity of vtubing is a groomer, and a sexpest. you retarded niggeroid

>>106212379 (OP)
You don't get how karma works, it's not supposed to hit you back if you say the truth.

>>106213136
Have you learned nothing? Manager = Boyfriend.

>>106213084
Shondo didn't expect them to fight back this time

>>106213288
Classic Shondo.

>>106213288
I love Shondo but men are no longer tolerate to be called creep or stalker or potential rapist just for showing interest on women. Hence why many are not even try to woo women anymore.

>>106213416
Holy fuck.

>>106212379 (OP)
Shondo is a bitch on wheels while pretending to be based. She despises her audience that she grifted for years. The first major sign was her sperging out screamiing "MALE ON STREAM MALE ON STREAM!" almost 2 years ago if I'm not mistaken. You could see the hate for her simp cucks oozing out of her in that clip.
The recent one is her saying that she is not really a GFE streamer.

>>106213239
It's basically an open secret that an ungodly amount of males in vtubing are groomers, both from the perspective of those in the audience and those that are streamers, that part isn't wrong at all. But Shondo is also the worst fucking person to communicate that message since she also fleeces a bunch of dumb saps with some of her content, not to mention her BF past was long since covered up.

>>106213239
Karma is when you shit on everyone else while pretending your own shit dont stink. And she did this a million times so far during her career. Its like her own goal is to virtue signal how she is one of the "good ones" while accussing everyone of having a boyfriend.

>>106212423
Michael is fucking her rn

>>106213495
>The recent one is her saying that she is not really a GFE streamer.
doesn't she do RP ASMR lmfao

>>106213567
I don't think she makes content for male vtubers though.

>>106213288
this is what happens when you surround yourself with brainless simps, you don't expect them to talk back

>>106213136
I feel like if the twitter retards keep this angle up they'll loop around to Islamists keeping their concubines locked away from other men is misandrist for not trusting them lmao

>>106213136
>>106213819
You really need to go back.

>>106213288
bao was talking about Mizkif and Shondo calling a groomer 2 view a groomer I see nothing wrong with either. only ones still seething at Shondo are sexpest male vtubers and retards that already had an axe to grind with her. still baffles me seeing chudbuds run defense for male envtubers theyre the antethisis to everything a chud stands for

>>106214049
>chudbuds
Eh? Where have you seen that? If you're talking about twitter accounts with her oshi mark in their name almost all of them are phasecucks.

>>106214049
A lot of these people are just politics brained and don't understand vtubing at all, so they project and assume that it's the women who dislike males in the space and not their predominantly male fanbases.

>>106212379 (OP)
She's completely right though like what are the chances on this one

>>106214284
She speaks from experience aka Michael

>>106214131
the ones like this jumping in take a peak at that thread

>>106212379 (OP)
Genuinely don't know what she did wrong. She called male vtuber a groomer? /vt/ does this with every male vtuber.

>>106212379 (OP)
It's crazy that this borderline the same message to the other post and those people would support this

>>106214182
>schizo is going back to "everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/"
aw man

>>106214524
Yeah but we're anonymous retards online
Shondo is a popular figure online with a following

>>106214524
Yeah but it escaped the vtuber sphere so now we're getting a lot of retards coming here posting "omg she thinks male vtubers are groomers are we going to accept this misandry man bros" not understanding that everyone here hates male vtubers more than shondo or bao ever will. Especially because these dumbasses don't know theres some scandal where a male vtuber or their "manager" ends up meeting some random indie whore and dicking them down every other week

>>106214621
Ok but she's right? Male vtubers are groomers and should be avoided at all costs

>>106214621
What's your point?

>Shondo said something retarded
>nuh-uh! Shondo is my girlfriend and I have to defend her on the internet!
>repeat ad nauseum 300 times
LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAAAAAIN

>>106213288
>>106214049
The people attacking Bao and Shondo are all the rightwing politicfags and their fans that fishman had to tardwrangle Pippa to stop interacting with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUQ70nUBxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmS-hX3W1Ks

>>106214808
She made a tweet. She didn't hit a dog with a brick. And it wasn't even a threat or something. Who should give a shit?

>DONDALD DRUMPF IS TO BLAME

can't imagine being this limp-wristed, effeminate, communist and pathetic

>>106214524
It broke containment. Like a few weeks ago when Doki made a joke about snow bunny mind control and suddenly a bunch of MAGAtards started accusing her of being a black psyop or something for a few days until they found their next person to harass.

>>106214846
I don't know. I'm on the right and I'll see is a bunch of fags taking a tweet and extrapolating that to mean both bao and shondo hate all men. This is just overly sensitive fag behavior.

>>106214808
Most of Shondo fans both in her general and /lig/ are also in her discord, of course their defenses would be next level

>>106214918
Sit down and shut the fuck up /pol/tard, the adults are talking

>>106214973
the reason it broke containment is because of grifters like >>106214846 trying to attack to the hobby for clicks.

we told everyone here this would happen, you let these people in they will destroy it.

Vtubing is a right-wing thing. Japan is extremely conservative and all of these girls only care about money, which is rightwing.

>>106214916
>i don't care
>which is why i'm in this thread caring about it
i hope shondo fucks you, bro

>>106214808
when she was breaking down on stream she called them stupid and baised and they all go "yeah so what"

>>106214524
KF got involved.

>>106215137
Like with geishas the right wing position is to ensure vtubing stays female only

>>106215134
>"misandry is not okay"
>THEY'RE TRYING TO ATTACK THE HOBBY!!!!

>>106215216
>you can't think a reaction is overblown unless you delude yourself into thinking you're going to get a piece of pussy
It was a tweet. To a literal who.

>>106215137
Miko is gay and supports trans rights.

>>106215134
Yeah, that too.
Between them and retards like Doxxsagi or Rima, it feels like anyone could break containment and get attacked for the most ridiculous out of context shit at any time.
Fucking hell, one of my 2views got put on their radar once for a stream reference tweet and it fucked up their channel and socials for a few days to the point where they just had to take a few weeks off from all the hate.

>>106215378
Yes we need more homo collabs to fight the misandry! So true sister!

>>106215378
Are you new here?

>>106215378
>Hey, you see this tweet that says this thing and specifically references their community? THEY HATE YOU AND WANT YOU TO DIE. GO SPAM THEIR SOCIALS AND STREAMS IF YOU DONT WANT THE LIBS TO STEAL YOUR GUNS AND CASTRATE YOUR CHILDREN BEFORE TURNING THEM BLACK

>>106215378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE-FH2vCYU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZL57pyvioE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oC8gpodDiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUQ70nUBxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmS-hX3W1Ks

all of these people HATE vtubing and are just grifting
you are not a vtuber fan, you are a drama fan

>>106215378
I've never seen anyone try to defend the homos by claiming any criticism of the homos is misandry before, where are you people coming from?

>>106212379 (OP)
she's just saying out loud every other guy is thinking, same as this time

>>106215564
Lmao wtf are these thumbnails

Any other vtuber viewers feel emasculated by how vtuber men cam swoop in and take vtuber pussy just like that? I've seen it happen over and over, my oshi starts collabing with a guy, then she's giggling at all his jokes, soon enough they're dragging each other into discord calls all day, she loses interest in her stream viewers and just streams to keep the lights on. Of course, autistic puppydog oblivious viewers don't notice anything, but they might complain about the streams sucking lately (without knowing why.)

We donate and chat all day just to get a scrap of attention, but some douche with an anime avatar gets JOI from her on discord for free and she fawns on his every word, just because he's popular and has money. It's just not fucking fair. I'm quitting vtubers.

>>106215379
>no you see, i don't care
>which is why i'm in this thread caring about it
i hope shondo fucks you, bro

>>106215037
It's amazing that this is somehow a minority opinion. In a sane world, the people taking offense to what either of them said would be mocked relentlessly.

>>106214973
>>106215134
>>106215564
>Doki references getting blacked
>MAGA to blame
>Bao talks shit
>Shondo makes it worse
>MAGA to blame
You're here because you love drama too, you probably screenshot your posts and DM it to them with "m'lady I just spent 5 hours defending you can I get a hello".

The real containment break is that they speak our language now, it's all been downhill since it escaped Japan.

>>106215989
the react sloppers are too big now, they are going to unironically kill the hobby

>>106216431
>You're here because you love drama too
i dont love drama grifters trying to coopt my hobby bro

>>106212379 (OP)
>"Considering the recent drama"
>posts an entire fucking novel I'm not gonna read
Hi Sinder

Can't wait for shondo to join her mom

>>106216431
That's some incredible projection, anon.
Hell, are you even trying to imply that japan doesn't have vtuber drama? It's even worse over there since they're just celebrities.

>>106213136
Fine anon, I'll bite. So a guy pops in her chat. Talks to her a few times. They are "besties" right now and it would seem, he doesn't have a job nor studies since he has enough free time to offer to be her manager, which implies, taking care of her schedule, collabs, PR, sponsor opportunities and more. A guy, she met through chat... and he is doing aaaaall of this for free, expecting nothing in return (notice how her reply says how he is "giving her a hand" because she doesn't know much but never addresses the payment question Shondo asked, which means she isn't paying him shit). Is that what YOU are going with? Now read all that and I'll ask you again, is this the hill you are dying on? Really?

>>106216503
Your hobby is drama

>>106216575
Counter-example: You spent days defending one or two whores' honor with the full knowledge that you'll get nothing in return.

>>106216551
No, I'm saying japanese vtuber drama didn't escape Japan before and there's such a cultural divide and a language barrier that westerners don't follow it for long. Now that vtubers are western women they have western women takes and nobody controlling what they say.
When hololive takes haachama to the shed out the back people blame hololive but it's unclear what's really going on. When shondo doesn't like that twitter arguments aren't going her way and says she's in hospital but still has her phone, we just know she's grifting.

>>106216575
>>106216788

>>106216586
>a hobby mainly consisting of women is drama
no shit, are you going to go harass the makeup community next bud?

>>106216788
>You spent days defending one or two whores
you aren't beating the allegations that you are a revsaddesu drama tourist

>>106216886
The makeup community had their drama saga years ago, with that gay groomer.

>>106216788
Can you respond to the substance of the post. Does that sound like a groomer or not? Spending time being a womans manager with no monetary compensation, pretty suspicious right. I guess you must think the guy has the heart of a saint

>>106216575
Anon you just described the average /vt/ user.
Only unlike your hypothetical guy, you and the rest of them are so socially fucked down to your very cores that you couldn't even dream of chatting with a woman for more than 3 seconds without running away.

>>106216973
Damn this homobeggar is melting down, get him some cock stat

>>106216938
>he doesn't know
lmao, the makeup community has drama every other month, none of the grifters you watch cover their drama so it's why you don't know anything sephora dropping certain creators or jeffree star drama

stick to your hobbies

>>106216949
>Can you respond to the substance of the post.
I did, your argument is dogshit. Men can, will and do things for the sake of women without expecting a payment. You're doing it right now. And if you aren't, then I'm sorry to have to inform you that Shondo will never fuck you.

>>106217015
How so? You just invented an entire fantasy story about a woman getting laid and starting a relationship because of the idea of a random dude saying a few words in chat.
Why is that all you can think of, anon?

>>106217059
You are gay for knowing that and vtuber drama is relevant to vtuber watching if you can call that a hobby

>>106217069
You only think this because you've been responding to these threads for days and think you're talking to the same person a million times. Someone who is taking on basically a full time job does want something in return.

Vtubers have anecdotally talked about male vtubers they collabed with treating them as if they were dating afterwards. That isn't a full time job. Only one gaming session.

>>106217117
You sound like mizkif right now
>my relationship would have worked out if only the stalkers didn't make me abuse her
Stop with the sour grapes. The streamers know where they bread is buttered and don't owe you shit 2view.

>>106217069
>Men can, will and do things for the sake of women without expecting a payment
lmao this is one of the groomers isn't it. "I just help small vtuber indies free of charge out of the goodness of my heart, I'm such an altruist". C'mon bro at least admit you're doing it to try and get sex, pretending you're doing it for free just makes you look even more pathetic.

>>106217210
First statement: Projection.
Second statement: Headcanon (and also incorrect unless you'd like to admit you have a romantic reason to defend Shondo).
Third statement: >anecdotal evidence

You're a certified retardo, we're done here.

>>106217315
Anon, now you're adding even MORE to the story.

You made an entire story where the only thing that you could confirm would be

A) guy talked a few times in chat and she responded.

So you could extrapolate that

B)Man is now fucking her

>>106217364
lmao this is one of the groomers isn't it. "I just defend vtuber indies free of charge out of the goodness of my heart, I'm such an altruist". C'mon bro at least admit you're doing it to try and get sex, pretending you're doing it for free just makes you look even more pathetic.

>>106217122
i have a fucking uterus, just take your L bozo and learn to stop being a gross drama grifter

>>106217372
You equated talking in a thread to a full time job. Only way you could see it that way is if you think every poster is the same person. You keeping up so far?
No one takes on a full time job for free without ulterior motives. This post is not a full time job.
You're free to fund a comprehensive scientific study on the likelihood of male vtubers to be groomers if you want.

>>106217059
NTA but my sister's big into makeup and I sometimes hear about it from her.

Honestly, the vtuber community is so relatively drama-free compared to most entertainment/luxury hobbies that you have youtubers dedicated to transforming any interaction into drama just to have something to report on.

>>106217400
You get that I don't care that the audience gatekept you or your favorite male vtuber from a collab, right?

>>106217606
that's why i got into vtubing, every other girlie hobby was just full of toxic group chats trying to tear each other down

>>106217422
I'd call you based, but woman can't be based. Sorry that's just the rules.

>>106217742
Eh.
Not really a problem in my case, but it's fun watching you twist yourself in knots to defend your logic.
Also the "audience" you keep referring to is clearly not as big as you think it is, as we've seen countless times.

>>106216575
>is this the hill you are dying on?
Yes, this is the hill I'm dying for. Now will you have a good counter-argument, hopefully with proofs of grooming, and not something like "then you're a naive retard"?

>>106216788
>>106217069
cooked that fool

>>106217913
I'm not even the guy you are replying to, but you are a turbo-retard

>>106217859
>I don't care
>you're insignificant
Which one?

>>106218077
>I'm not even the guy you are replying to
Of course you aren't

>>106218077
>I'm not even the guy you are replying to
Has this ever worked for you?

>>106217913
>proofs
You will never understand why this outs you.

>>106218171
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person because I am correct and multiple people would never disagree with me

>>106215752
yeah but this time she actually got a pushback from it, and she is crying and having a big meltdown over it

>>106218208
>no argument
Ok
>>106218265
You are not him, yeah. I said as much

>>106218077
>nta
lmao

>>106218291
She should just double down on it rather than appeasing the retards. This is what separates men from women. Women are community-minded and will always immediately fold into a panic attack when people "cancel" them. When people try to "cancel" a man like this, he would just tell them to eat a dick and that would be the end of it. This is also a reason why women can never be good leaders, because they are spineless as fuck.

>>106218535
Based

>>106217797
Yeah, I get that.
Hell, some of the drama/trolls from the other communities ended up following some girls into the vtuber community, and the shit they do is so much worse than any of the normal toxicity.
For example, /cgl/ ended up holding a grudge and following the dogs. There's a few twitter dedicated accounts who respond to everything they ever tweet with posts about their RM and photos of them.
Like the average vtuber anti wouldn't even think of that shit.

We also see some cases of it getting pretty bad with the Nijisanji fans, who tend to find new ways to chase each other off the internet every week or so, likely adapted from the overlapping kpop fandom.

Ironically, the actual lesbian-coded vtubers like Doki, Mint, ERB, etc. have some of the chillest and nicest girls I've ever met.

>>106218158
Anon, why would you care about something insignificant?
>>106218535
NTA but that's absurd. Just look at all of the successful cancellations.

>>106218658
the vrchat community is def the most drama filled, besides i guess corpo stuff

>>106218754
Every "successful" cancellation is just a bunch of twitter and resetera faggots making a big stink, and then the target bowing down and apologizing like a retard for no good reason.
They can just as easily say "fuck off" and have nothing happen to them. Do you really think Bao or Shondo would get deplatformed by Youtube or Twitch for this? that's fucking absurd.

>>106218950
Ah, if that's what you're getting at then yeah I can sort of agree with it.
The problem arises though when people are a bit more dedicated than simply "raising a stink."
Just look at Coco who got her stream chat obliterated by chinese spambots for months because she said Taiwan. She tried to truck along for ages and it never really helped. Yeah, it wore down over time, but so did she.

You definitely have cases like ProJared where he did his best to rebuild from scratch and he DID redeem himself, but comparing his career now to its peak, as well as comparing it to similar creators around that time like Markiplier and where THEY'RE at now...

Hell, Filian prides herself on this approach. She was considered uncancellable... until they went after her support shit and she ended up losing not only the vtuber awards but Mythic as a whole.

I feel more malice behind the people pushing their agendas than any of the vtubers in question desu

>>106214808
She does it intentionally for drama

>>106217069
>Doing shit for free
Lmao please tell me you're joking or else please kys or you're a woman trying to gaslight man to help woman for free

>>106219251
Yeah, Rev personally knew Shondo and covered her a bunch, he even knew she lost her mother recently.

This feels vile.

>>106219403
Rev only covered for her because his wife is friends with Shondo.

>>106219403
Yeah, out of all of the dramafags, he's the one who feels the most... malicious? insincere?
I remember I used to watch him pretty regularly since he mostly made videos on defending victims of controversy or random radical cancellation, but at some point he swapped from defending controversies to attacking people directly and it just started feeling nasty.
It's funny. I think even Hero Hei is more respectable than Rev these days, and all he does is read nondescript twitter comments.

>>106219519
Rev has been making videos about Shondo for longer than him and Strawb have been together
He knew Shondo says this a lot

This was an attack by him, knowing her headspace after her mother died.

>>106219675
His wife became a born again christian and then he started going off the deep end.

>>106219815
This... actually explains a lot.
Man, I swear this happens all the time.
I used to follow a cute aussie 2view chuuba.
I swear I stopped paying attention to her for like two-three months and now she's a mid 3-view /pol/tuber.

>>106219231
In this scenario, neither Bao nor Shondo have done anything to get themselves deplatformed or kicked off payment platforms. What they said is very milquetoast.
The people having a cry about Bao and Shondo don't even watch either anyway. This is almost entirely culture war retards who know nothing about vtubers. All they know in their binary direction brains is that they think those two are "woke" and must be targeted. Anyone who is an actual fan of either wont actually give a shit.
Unfortunately, women aren't very good at grasping this concept. Any form of negative attention to them is a mount Everest even if it's actually a mole hole in reality. Bao or Shondo could tweet out "Shut up, I won't apologize" right now, and nothing would happen, but they wouldn't because they're women and in their brains, the world is ending.

>>106219815
>His wife became a born again christian
What living with Rev does to a nigga

>>106219403
>>106219756
Losing your mom doesn't excuse retarded behavior
Shondo is never going to fuck you

>>106220155
Yeah, I get that.
In this case it's less women and more specifically bao and shondo.
Bao's had horrific hormonal issues for years and Shondo's... shondo. I think this is the first time Shondo's ever had any real pushback from anything, which is kind of impressive in its own right considering how much she tended to attack others.

>>106218535
Filian is proof that if you just ignore dramafags, nothing will happen to you. Being able to ignore them seems like a rare quality though.

>>106220431
Yeah not this last time, though.
She lost Mythic from this one.
She'll definitely recover considering it's Filian, but it absolutely set her back.

>>106220284
Rev looks awful here and you can't spin this.
He either faked being friends with Shondo, or didn't care to farm ad revenue on her despite her recent issues.

Rev is a honest to goodness piece of shit that him should be blacklisted from every vtuber now.
He could have reached out privately, but he didn't because he's an asshole.

>>106220617
I don't give a fuck about your boyfriend Rev
Just calling a retard a retard

all men are groomers and all women are whores. thats the rule

>>106220790
You do, it's why you are covering for him.
You came to /vt/ after his video to create drama and harass a vtuber and her community that you don't know and don't care to know.

>>106221016
no need for boogeyman to call shondo what she is

You hate male vtubers because you think they are trying to get into the pants of every female vtuber they interact with. I hate male vtubers because they are boring. We are not the same.

>>106221105
No need to attack Shondo for jokes she's made for years that you now get offended by.

>>106221146
both true though

>>106212809
>>106213232
>>106213567
>>106214049
>groom
You can't groom an adult you retards.

>>106220155
>What they said is very milquetoast.
Yeah I think that's what's really unsettling me the most about things. The response feels way more extreme than usual. I don't really watch Shondo or Bao but I have friends who talk and shitpost about both on a regular basis and this was a normal event coming from them.

>>106221287
i didn't, you are talking to different person

>>106221146
>retards filter themselves out of male vtuber streams for free
thanks

>>106221404
>adult but retarded
checkmate atheist

>>106220431
It still would affect your popularity tho

>men are now buying into the idea adult women can be groomed
i fucking hate my gender more every year

>>106225461
it's specifically because rev attacked shondo, and he did actually have a past as a sexpest so he felt called out
which is weird because rev and shondo are supposedly friends and she's been making this same joke for years

Why are vtubers befriending dramafaggot in the first place? sounds like a bad idea

>>106218208
Proofs is technically correct to use, but I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen it used in this context outside this shit hole.

>>106214049
>bao was talking about Mizkif
>vague tweet calling out all men instead of just talking about mizkif emiru drama normally like literally every other streamer

>>106216586
No it fucking isn't you absolute retard. I didn't even like Vtubers until my friend showed me ones I enjoyed. I've had a lot of fun times, and entertaining afternoons Cute girls doing cute things. I even branched out and watched 2views girls that I really liked. Nobody is in this hobby for drama except for you parasites. Get the fuck out of this community. The truth is there was always drama it's just it wasn't popular enough for grifters to milk money off of it, now they leech and suck the life out of this until it runs dry.

>>106213288
so everyone in this story are terrible people? Gotcha, into the trash bin.

>>106212379 (OP)
Shondo's right tho.

>>106227085
Even the next part of the story is dumb too
>Shondo is friend with dramafaggot pol youtuber who covers every vtuber drama no matter how small or sensitive it is
>That friend stab you in the back
>*Surprised pikachu face*
its terrible people vs terrible people

>ITT
Literally picrel but jeets farming drama for screencaps for xitter, it pains my heart looking at how much this site has fallen. That said i will never leave out of stubbornness and i will keep signal to other genuine anons "i'm still here, you're not alone" till the ultimate end. Hold still brothers.

>>106216575
counter-example: Necro XIII
He was doing all these things, not to get in bed with chuubas but to jumpstart his career, he even worked for a brave subsidiary.

>>106215255
that explains all the kvetching about MRA's

>>106217422
>i have a fucking uterus
lmao no wonder this board fucking sucks go back to /cgl/ or /co/ whore

>>106212809
We have generals specifically made for people who want to get close to small vtubers pretending they know how to make them go big. You will be accused of being a dramafag or something even if this is true. I don't see the issue with being a male vtuber and trying to find somebody in that sphere to connect with. Thats how it goes in every place. You try to find a significant other near the places you frequent and your workplace is one of those places. I find it a lot creepier when theres generals on a board for vtubers filled with people scheming on how to make a small 2view become their personal pet.

>>106213288
I presume Shondo expected this to go the same it went for Bao the last time she tried a big move. She got away on top during the Sinder thing so maybe she will get away this time too.

Literally have no clue what anyone is upset about. What Bao set was kind of stupid but it's decent general advice for women in entertainment.

>>106216431
Doki made a reference to a Marvel Rivals meme you fucking tourist.

>>106212379 (OP)
No matter how I keep following any Shondo drama you people throw around here, in every single image you post she's just dropping trukes left and right.
Is that why you hate her?
>>106213416
You're not being a potential rapist for being interested in women. You're getting called that if you're constantly forcefully inserting yourself around women with ulterior motives. Stop being a creep and there's no problem.

>>106215989
Right-wing people being overly sensitive pussies isn't exactly news.

>>106219251
you're projecting

>>106230437
being interested in women counts as "ulterior motives" if you're unattractive

>>106230805
Rightfully so.
Do some cardio and go to the gym.
Not just once, make it a habit. You'll feel better afterwards, trust me.

>>106230970
you can't grow taller by doing cardio

>>106213288
it's really like these two worthless cunts thought they'd time travelled back to 2013. truly you can't take the entitled whore out of the americanised fat asian chick.

>>106225461
they can but you need money or fame, male vtubers have neither unless they're like one of 3 twitch males

>>106214049
No Mizkif, you weren't that big stop pretending this was about you.

>>106225461
>on a board geared towards putting reject women on a pedestal
>complain about the calibre of "man" it produces

>>106225461
Women are retarded so it checks out.

>>106214450
Vee is right. Never apologise for offending people. Fuck internet moralfaggots

Can one of the believe all women faggots explain how is it possible to groom a female streamer? Am I going to rape her through the internet? Finger her stain through discord?
How does that works?

>>106212379 (OP)
>Considering the recent drama, is it karma? Yeah, I think it's karma
remember, drama = scene change.
everytime there's drama, they're closing the curtains to change the scenery.

i.e. its all theatre.

I ain't reading all this shit, did someone post the screenshot of shondo talking about her boyfriend's cock?

>>106231406
Shondo called out homos for being groomers
Then she faced backlash and gave a long apology, but still felt the need to basically deny any fault on her part instead of just not apologizing
Now she fakes getting hospitalized for pity
tl:dr a grifter whore touches the wrong subject burned and then cries crocodile tears when consequences catch up

>>106212423
I'm doing fine, who's asking?

>>106212379 (OP)
?? are you moiwa or something

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I still don't understand why people are mad at her.
Most groomers are men.
Vtubing has a massive groomer problem.
Why are people so mad that those facts are being called out?

>>106233578
If you had any brainpower to spare, you'd realize the problem is her trying to backpedal after meeting backlash and then pitybaiting afterwards instead of sticking to what's supposedly her opinion
We don't need grifter whores like her to further pollute this already fucked hobby

>>106233637
Okay, so she said the correct thing but folded under harassment and you're mad at her? No, that still doesn't make sense.

>>106233677
No, it makes perfect sense. If you don't have the guts to face backlash and have so little confidence in your own words that you apologize immediately afterwards, then shut the fuck up instead of being a little bitch that caves under zero pressure.
Even fucking Pirate Software had more of a backbone than this and he had the entire internet rightfully dogpiling him.

>>106233742
There's very few people in general, and especially very few women, who can stand up to a harassment campaign. So you're really just asking for the problem to be ignored and to continue.
You're in favor of male sexpests in the industry to be immune to criticism. Good job.

>>106233773
You know who did endure one of those? Filian. She just kept going like nothing happened until everyone forgot about it. Didn't adress anything despite valid criticism. She also happens to be a woman in the same industry.
>You're in favor of male sexpests in the industry to be immune to criticism. Good job.
On the contrary, that's Shondo if she apologized for trying to do that. If she apologized, that means she thinks she's wrong, i.e. they are not sexpests. You should be getting mad at her for making a statement that says viewing them as sexpests is wrong.

>>106233851
>that means she thinks she's wrong
No, it doesn't, you fucking moron. It means she thinks it will make the harassment go away.

>>106233872
What she thinks doesn't matter as much as her words and actions do. In this case, her words and actions in this case are going back on her earlier statement and telling everyone that she was wrong. She is contributing to the problem by effectively offering them support.
Either say nothing or stand your ground.

>>106233934
So for the large majority of people, who can't stand up to a harassment campaign, you'd rather see them be silent and the problem to go unaddressed than lend your support, so much that you'll join the harassment campaign.
You're an asshole, mate.

>>106233978
Stay out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat, it's that fucking simple. Being a whimpering bitch only makes you and the rest of your cause look bad.
This is ignoring the fact that "harassment" is worth nothing these days if you're not a public figure (as a vtuber who doesn't parade her tits around like others, this is not a concern for her) and if you fold under that kind of pressure, you should go ahead and kill yourself to save yourself the trouble.

>>106212379 (OP)
>/vt/ labels any male who interacts with their oshi as sex pests and groomers
>based, often correct
>twitch whores say the same thing
>WTF YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT /OUR/ BOYS, THIS IS MISANDRY!

>>106233742
You're correct that she shouldn't have apologized, but it seems kinda backwards to attack her harder for not doubling down. Seems like you should just be disappointed, not wishing for her to suffer.

>>106234197
I'd be merely disappointed if she stopped at the apology instead of immediately pitybaiting
This is what makes her a grifter whore instead of just a spineless bitch

>>106221887
You say that as if male vtubers get viewers

>>106231451
Shondo called out groomers for being groomers.
There's absolutely no issue.
It's just alt-right incels seething.

>>106235189
This is what you guys get for welcoming politics into a space that was supposed to he about cgdct. "oh dont worry about pippa, shes just kidding, lmao". Retards

>>106235189
And Shondo kneeling to them like a bitch. Stop leaving that part out.

>>106216949
A guy spends time with a woman because he enjoys the company of her as a friend or he likes her and hopes she will like him back if he helps her and in the process they learn more about each-other. 'bAcK iN My DAy' the classic was helping with homework.

I feel like a retard trying to explain basic human interactions... how sheltered are you disphits jesus christ, have you never tried to woo another girl or had a friend who happened to be a girl? A guy trying to establish a connection with a girl is not grooming. Fuck I can't believe some zoomer NEETs are that far gone nowadays, I'm honestly blown away.

>>106238043
>the classic was helping with homework
No need to do your homework anymore when AI solves everything
The youth these days is now paying money just to go to some place and sit there for several hours while doing everything in their power to avoid learning anything
As worthless as school often ends up being, it is still meant to help you develop certain basic skills, but they no longer get to do that
We're cultivating a generation of retards that can't think for themselves, lack many crucial skills and will 100% have no idea what they're doing once they get a job that requires more than flipping burgers
You WILL eventually grow old, find yourself on an operating table and hear one of your surgeons ask AI what to do, including how to use a syringe
Said AI will not be any more reliable than it is now, likely even worse
Let that sink in

>>106231036
well then I suggest you take the femboy pill, you gnome.

>>106240248
>precisely at 5'3"
What happens if you go any lower? Are you legally obligated to grow a beard and become a blacksmith?