Thread 106215932

This is what happens when you don't gatekeep your hobby.
We told you not to invite the grifters in.
Now they will keep attacking EVERY one of your oshi's until it's dust.
Asmongold has consistently criticized Hololive over the years because he wanted to poach their talents to Mythic, but the collection of grifters he has amassed and promoted are now poised to destroy the entire industry if people don't stand up to this shit and kick them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE-FH2vCYU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZL57pyvioE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oC8gpodDiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUQ70nUBxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmS-hX3W1Ks

>>106215932 (OP)
>reactsloppers say hating men blindly is maybe a bit mean
>THIS IS THE END OF LIFE AS WE KNOW IT THE SKY IS FALLING CATS AND DOGS LIVING TOGETHER MASS HYSTERIA
Strongly consider taking a break from the internet.

>>106216152
reactsloppers are the DEATH of the hobby and if you were an honest boy you'd admit that

>>106215932 (OP)
Who cares, everything is ending dumbass, just as it happened in the past with the old advanced civilization, pretty soon the world will be reset and our civilization will be buried under dust and rubble unknown to the current hunter and gatherer civilization that will proceed us.

>>106215932 (OP)
The NijiEN drama was pretty much the end of vtubing. The grifters ate so well just giving their hot takes on Niji, and this faggot fucking board gave them so much attention that they'll never leave.
Be honest, /vt/ loves drama and only complains when it's someone they like getting dogpiled on. This board exists to shit up vtubing with drama.

>shondo says something retarded and people call her out on it
>>OMG OMG DEATH OF THE HOBBY!!
uh huh ok but imagine actually giving a shit about any of this

>>106216457
Ok groomer

>>106216457
>uh huh ok but imagine actually giving a shit about any of this
true, now tell the drama grifters that

>>106216457
you don't get it, if i pretend to care then shondo will give me a kiss on the cheek between plapping sessions with michael

>>106216479
isn't that like the majority of her fans though

>>106215932 (OP)
I just watch Hololive and ignore indiewhores. It's that simple.

>>106216457
Fat effeminate gooks can't see how cringe pissing themselves over failed celebrities is on account of the limited FOV of their wee chinese eyes.

>>106216581
>he says after making a thread about how drama grifters will be the end of vtubing

This is so funny. Why is the christcuck suck a snowflake?

>>106216457
She said that male vtubers are groomer sexpests. That's not something retarded, that's something true.

>>106215932 (OP)
Not my problem

>>106216790
>suck a snowflake
ESLchama, your seething is showing.

>>106215932 (OP)
We love the drama-industrial complex here tho

uh yeah that's cool, doesn't affect Hololive though

>>106216873
so that's why she doesn't collab with vedal anymore....

>>106216613
She does that with her cat?

>>106216639
No, the majority of her fans is not male vtubers.

>>106216681
yes that's the point, OP is signalboosting problem actors
this is why offkai banned their asses

>>106216946
rev using a femboy avatar as a born again christian is unironic snowflake shit

>>106216924
>Not my problem
>>106215932 (OP)
>Asmongold has consistently criticized Hololive over the years because he wanted to poach their talents to Mythic, but the collection of grifters he has amassed and promoted are now poised to destroy the entire industry if people don't stand up to this shit and kick them out.
seems like a problem to me

all of these creators grifted off of hololive in the beginning and are now cancelling bao and shondo for the exact reasons they "supported" hololive

>>106217551
wait, are you for real? The grifters are banned from offkai?

I'm not surprised that the male vtuber groomersphere is mostly composed of MAGA pedophiles desu. They protect their own.

>>106216924
based let the trannies and brownies eat each other

>>106217802
yes, rev and kirsche made a big stink about it but it's where they belong, they aren't a part of the hobby they just appropriated it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbcUiXoN3Mc

they tried making it a political thing, no, you people create drama and have no entertainment value yourself

>>106217936
>no, you people create drama
They don't create drama though. They feed off of drama caused by retards. Rev and Kirsche had nothing to do with Bao telling all men they're sexpests or with Shondo agreeing with her then having a panic attack.

>shondo says that same thing she's always been saying
>suddenly """people""" care and want to cancel her for it

>>106215932 (OP)
I like asmonGOD but I kinda wish you were right desu but we probably have another 5 years or so strap in because things are only going to become more annoying.

>>106218096
>Bao telling all men they're sexpests
She didn't say this, she said male vtubers are all sexpests. And it's true.
And Shondo won't lose a single viewer over this take because it's the same opinion 99% of vtuber fans have.

>>106218096
>They don't create drama though
>They feed off of drama caused by retards
rev LOVED shondo and "supported" her when she said all these same things for YEARS
shondo has literally repeated this joke possibly a hundred times, calling male vtubers and mods groomers is a MAIN gimmick of hers

rev attacking her like this was him knowingly making drama, he either faked liking her in the past, or is knowingly making pointless drama because it's a slow week, something he's admitted to doing before

>>106218176
>she deletes all the posts and has to commit herself
Men get it done.

>>106218234
Thanks for clearing that up Bao, I wasn't aware that male vtubers were in fact not males and only a new sentient sex of PNGs

>>106218299
>rev attacking her like this was him knowingly making drama
Lil bro, the drama had already happened when he covered it. That's why he covered it. He didn't create anything.
You're obsessed.

>>106218176
we warned you about the grifters bro, rev even pretended to support her before
she has always been like this, he is a snake

Like every single problem in EN vtubing has come from not keeping male and female vtubers completely segregated.

>>106215932 (OP)
EN thinking they're the ones keeping the hobby alive will never be not funny and sad. Its like how EN thinks they're the main revenue driver for weeb gacha time and time again.

>>106218443
He was feeding it on twitter as it was happening, ignoramus

>>106218443
>the drama had already happened when he covered it
there was no drama, rev IS the drama
the grifter corps went full in after he made his video

rev is a bad actor that backstabbed his supposed friend for her typical stream content

>>106215932 (OP)
so in order:
>"satire" channel, is what he calls it, male groomer with content creator accent, most likely a tranny in denial.
>the ugliest vtuber model I've seen in awhile, pick-me whore
>fleshie retard
>balkan gypsy cuck with a high-pitched grating voice
>tranny that doesnt even puppet the model or even attempt to edit the video to be consoomed
Weird how all of them are padded to the 10 minute mark. These grifters are the saddest bunch I've seen in AWHILE...and people watch them unironically?

>>106218442
vtubing is a female hobby. any male in a female hobby is a groomer. this is not a controversial opinion. if i showed up to a sewing class just to talk to the women there and 90% of my time was spent trying to "collab" with the girls i'd get called a groomer too. this is what every single male vtuber does. everyone can identify it except the stupid foids that delude themselves into thinking "they're just friends' until they get groomed.

shut up fag go back to cooming to vox asmr's.

>>106218615
You can look up the archives here to see people were reacting to Shondo's tweets and her stream way before Rev covered any of it.
You ARE obsessed.

>>106215932 (OP)
This seems like sister propaganda.
>Asmongold has consistently criticized Hololive over the years
He has done no such thing.
>Now they will keep attacking EVERY one of your oshi's
Nope.
>are now poised to destroy the entire industry
Meds schizo leftist. I know you seethe all day every day about asmongold. But you are still a mentally ill nobody that has no friends. Sorry.

>>106215932 (OP)
MOOOOOOOODS
>>106216457
she never even said anything wrong. she called a groomer a groomer.

>>106217270
We all accept your concession. This drama is now over.

>>106218651
"hobby"
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Streaming is not a hobby, at least not for most people, AI-chan was not making videos fun fun, she was working

>>106218926
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the OP is just outright lies from the Shondocucks who've been spazzing out for days over this (and I'll grant them they were right to assume most people wouldn't fact check the post, since nobody cares about the reactsloppers as much as they do). Even Shondo backed down, but they don't.

>>106218767
>You can look up the archives here to see people were reacting to Shondo's tweets and her stream way before Rev covered any of it.
no shit, /vt/ reacts to everything and you can tell when it's organic

this shit isn't organic, revs fans are shitting up /vt/ because he's a shitty friend who makes attack videos on his supposed friends who he would know if he actually watched her has made this joke dozens and dozens of times

>>106219264
How were "revs fans" shitting up /vt/ days before Rev made a video about this?
Why the fuck are you so obsessed with Rev, anyway?

>>106219244
Shondofans are the only ones correct on this topic though, anon.

>>106219358
>Why the fuck are you so obsessed with Rev, anyway?
because he called shondo "a friend of the channel" and did this, knowingly after her mother had passed away and was dealing with stuff

revsaysdesu unironically is a disgusting person

>>106219412
They aren't Shondofags, though. Shondo backed down. Shondo conceded she was wrong. How can they be Shondofags if they're going against Shondo?

>>106219358
He was interacting with the post as it was going on. Youtube isnt the only platform he posts on, retard, but the shittification of /vt/ before he made the video, started from KF and TVA, and it got worse after he made the video cause the flame has already been lit, so people feel more comfortable sperging out about things they don't interact with. There's been non-stop threads that have gotten WORSE after the video, all looping the same talking points from KF and slop-channels, anyone attributing this to in-fighting are larpers and tourists.
He is part of the problem, as anon pointed it out.

>>106219499
Going through a tragedy is not an excuse for doing retarded shit. Nobody asked for her opinion on Bao's controversy.

>>106219751
>Shondo conceded she was wrong
no she didn't, she was being attacked by her supposed friend for a joke she always makes

rev is a gross POS who backstabs his friends dealing with mental issues and grief for content

>>106218620
Occo's not bad sometimes. Less of a grifter than Rima or Alana.

>>106219861
>Nobody asked for her opinion on Bao's controversy.
her opinion???? shondo says male vtubers are groomers every fucking week are you high

go fuck yourself dramagrifter fuck

>>106219896
>no she didn't
She deleted everything.
Cope.

>>106220006
she deleted everything because revs community was harassing her
you people are human garbage

>>106219751
>Shondo backed down
She didn't, anon. You are hallucinating.

>>106220006
Shondo called a groomer a groomer. No amount of sperging about that will change reality. Sorry, anon.

>>106220043
She was getting backlash way before Rev showed up. That's why she had to make that apology non-apology tweet to begin with.
>but rev! rev! b-but rev! REV REV REV REV REV
Beyond mindbroken.

Rev and his culture war friends-turned-vtubers instilling male vtuber tolerance across the scene is quite the devilish plan.
I'm not sure there's a weak point as avatared men proliferate, becoming accepted so long as they're "based" or "one of us" or whatever.

>>106220483
Shondo realized she was wrong and deleted the tweet. No amount of sperging about that will change reality. Sorry, anon.

>>106220569
shondo was not getting backlash for something she typically says, the backlash happened after rev attacked her and misrepresented the entire situation

this isn't a debate, rev is a shitty friend that creates drama for his friends even when they are dealing with major life issues

>>106218651
Fuck you mean hobby? This isn't book club. This is modern day bar wenches here to entertain men and get them to cough up their coin.

>>106220690
>Shondo realized she was wrong and deleted the tweet
after rev harassed her on twitter

>>106220800
Sure, shondo. Just don't post on Twitter.

>>106216656
How'd that go for you with Marine's Ao and Haachama, retard?

>>106220624
Wait till Tectone becomes a male vtuber

>>106220912
how about you stop harassing female vtubers for not collabing with men

>>106220800
>shondo was not getting backlash
She must have made that apology tweet on a whim.
>but REEEEEEEEV
kek

>>106216152
Why did you post Dooby's Gerboa?

>>106221122
she wasn't getting backlash, she was getting harassed by revsaydesu and his community

>>106215932 (OP)
Nigga, this shit was marked for death the second vtubing broke into the west and the ewhores too lazy or ugly for normal streaming got an easy way to farm simps.
Now we're just along for the ride.

>>106221172
she was getting backlash from worthy men who don't tolerate blatant hatred towards male vtubers

>>106220912
>>106221121
NTA but he's right. Shondo literally just called out groomers like you fags.

>>106221542
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>106221758
You lost, sis.

>>106221542
>>106221758
>worthy men
Are you serious? Am I in bizarro world now?

>>106221946
Rev is /here/.

>made Shondo cry like a little bitch AND delete the offending posts
Men FUCKING won.

>>106222019
>Men FUCKING
gay.

That is quite enough of that, stay in your fucking lane

>>106222019
You're not a man though?

>>106221707
It's as if these fags felt personally called out by her or something

>>106215932 (OP)
>We told you not to invite the grifters in.
lol vtubing is grifting to lonely men since the beginning, its egirl garbage since the beginning

>>106216444
Eh, I'm gonna be honest
if the cost of getting selen and pomu out of nijisanji was destroying this shitty /pol/adjacent board, I'd still say it was worth it.

>>106215932 (OP)
I will be the end of vtubing as a hobby, save this post.

>>106215932 (OP)
I blame Pippa for platforming Kirsche and starting the trend.

>>106215932 (OP)
>opportunistic grifters turning on the people that have helped make them
No shit, these people have no morals, just attack attack attack for money

>>106223616
Pippa and Kirsche are saving vtubing from the likes of you though? Which is extremely based?

>>106215932 (OP)
Vtubing should've stayed in Japan. EN vubers are all shameless whores or grifters.

>>106223803
Earlier tonight Pippa supported bao and shondo and said this drama was manufactured bullshit

good thing I only watch Hololive so this isn't my problem

>>106223803
not that anon but pippa probably agrees that rev is being a shit bag and is glad that fishman shook sense into her
kirsche is probably having issues, on one hand rev seemed to have had her back sometimes, but he also seemed to have shondo's back

if rev can do this pointless shitflinging to shondo he can do it to anybody, a true cancer in the hobby

>>106224113
there a general timestamp?

>>106224188
rev made his name off of hololive drama with the coco shit
once asmon gives the go ahead to attack hololive for mythics benefits, rev will be his strongest soldier
asmon previously called hololive a black company that treats its talents like slaves

>>106224242
No but it's somewhere in the first 15-20 mins

>>106217936
Holy fucking kek
What absolute scum.

every single slimy snake on any side of this situation has tried to take advantage of it as a gotcha.

>>106224113
lol Pippa destroyed the groomer troon

The literal only knowledge I've gained from this is further confirmation that drama channels are, as always, a cancer on any industry they exist in. Rev is, and always has been, an extremely low-effort channel that """reports""" on """""""news""""""" he's dredging up from Xitter, and none of it warrants this much attention being placed on it.

Shondo calling some faggot a groomer is not national news. Bao suggesting that groomers exist(they do) and can often play the part of industry contacts(they do) is not something worthy of broadcasting everywhere. A Xitter """war""" that was deleted is not going to damage the medium in any capacity. Every one of you lobotomites who continually feeds this retardation are explicitly the problem. Not "part" of the problem, not a component or element of the problem, you are specifically every present issue with the hobby/industry space. Your suicides would benefit your Oshi, and it's only a shame you're too selfish to do your part in the cleanup.

>>106224410
The issue is Rev calls Shondo his friend and even knew about her recent grieving with her mom, but still attacked her with pointless drama

>>106224410
I mostly agree, but I just wanna add the little bit of nuance where Bao has before and after the tweet made actual misandristic comments. She was still right with her initial tweet though.

>>106215932 (OP)
i just want to say when shondo called that guy a groomer it was justified. Heres how it want down

>boa doubles down and says some misandrist shit
>floki calls her a whore who blackmails people "honey trap"
>shondo calls him a groomer
>people flip their shit on her

like how weak and pathetic do you have to be that when your playing a game of insults you freak out when someone uses a stronger insult on you. I get that people were mad at boa but the freak out at the mentation of the word 'groomer" must of just hit too close at home for these people. Reminds me of when jews get called out when trying to hide who they are and they just start shaking and kvetching. you would think that they would make it less obvious that the word in question applies to them.

>>106224574
He felt personally attacked by the groomer comment because that's how he got a wife. lmao

>>106224594
Bao has said some actual retarded ahit before, but for all the grifters to latch onto this of all things was just dumb on their part.

>>106224676
For sure. They should have criticized her for those other statements. Not for that tweet.

>>106224594
I don't believe in misogyny so I'm not gonna believe in misandry either

1. Asmon seems like a creep
2. Grow up, you guys treat vtubers and vtubing like some kind of special cool kids club and hold it some higher degree when in reality the majority of vtubers are literally the same as any fleshtuber thot.
3. Kys

>>106224761
There are some people who hate women/men wholesale for illogical reasons.

>>106224792
>stop gatekeeping
No, you must be gatekept even more, that's the lesson in this.

>>106224792
4. Stop screeching when anyone says ANYTHING remotely negative or has any criticism. These arent Gods, they're people behind a fucking avatar

>>106215932 (OP)
streaming is a hobby by definition that can't be gatekeep less viewers= no streams.

>>106224792
>hold it some higher degree when in reality the majority of vtubers are literally the same as any fleshtuber thot.
Isn't that just more of a reason to hold them to a higher standard? To weed out the thots? It's why Hololive is a thing.

>>106224634
bro you were NOT supposed to point that out!

>>106224880
No, talk shit get hit.
This isn't a debate fucko, Shondo is in the hospital right now because her "friend" crashed out at her for legitimately nothing

>>106224880
that's for all the dramafags and their defenders right?

if you respond to drama drama will respond back just ignore it you dumb whore.

>>106224971
Sounds like Shondo needs a tardwrangler if she's that unstable.

>>106225067
Her mother just killed herself and she is on meds, Rev knew this

>>106224997
This "drama" was her "friend" Rev randomly crashing out at her on twitter
All the bible shit has destroyed his brain in record time

>>106225067
Incorrect.

>>106224971
>>106225108
>>106225191

There is a well-researched correlation between BPD and Munchausen Syndrome. IJS.

>>106225257
Everyone here knows how Shondo is, Rev just flat out attacked her knowing all of that as well.
He isn't a good friend and its obvious it extends to how he is just as a person.

This is his Nux moment where people see him for what he really is.

>>106225374
but Nux, may allah shit on his tiny soul for all eternity, turned out to be right all along

>>106215932 (OP)
I hope shondo's gonna be okay. She's retarded and mentally ill but the real issue is trying to joke around, which I will give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she was, with a serious topic using plain text on twitter when everyone's on a hair trigger
Were it on stream she could easily have played it off or added the intended comedic/clown/obvious joke inflection to it.
>rev
is a fucking faggot and as bad as any other snake if he really considers/ed her a friend and still chose to do what he did

Every reply to a deleted post is in support of Shadow.

>>106215932 (OP)
genuine, honest question for rightoids that are upset about this, are you guys just okay with cancel culture now or do you not believe this is cancel culture?

>hobby
lel
kek even

>>106225374
so you mean rev is gonna be right in the end?
>>106225568
friends call out each other when they are being fucking retarded
if your friends don't do that then they are just a bunch of mindless orbiters

>>106224971
And i care why? Everyone deals with shit, my condolences but also deal with shit like an adult.

>>106217936
I used to watch Rev regularly when he was calling out virtue signaling and tokenism, but once he started using right-wing political buzzwords like "Trump derangement syndrome," I immediately lost patience with him. Being anti-virtue signaling and anti-tokenism is not a right-wing stance. It's basic decency stance. I'm left-wing, yet even I'm against that shit because they undermine the progressive cause, yet Rev doesn't give a fuck about honesty. He'd rather politicize things that don't need to be politicized to generate outrage because he financially benefits from a divided country and divided communities. If Rev was actually charitable to both sides instead of weaponizing drama to agenda-push with dogwhistles, he'd lose all of his sources of content.

Personally I think that what we need is more vtubers who are explicitly opposed to vtuber "journalists". Last time one expressed herself the entire mob of dramalovers attacked her so I know it's a dangerous task, but I still feel it's needed if vtubing wants to survive in the long run.

this entire episode has simply demonstrated that men definitely do not belong in women's vtubing spaces in any capacity other than being fans

>>106216457
Because Shondo already retracted her statements, so any normal person would just move on and give her a 2nd chance to not do it again, yet these ragebaiters are acting like she just committed a war crime. Yes, baselessly calling a groomer is fucked up, but at the end of the day, it was just Shondo being a dick by making a stupid comment. All she has to do is just stop being a dick and everyone will move on, but the ragebaiters can't have that. They need to cancel her so that they can milk what would otherwise be a forgivable mistake into a scandal that plagues the entire community for weeks on end.

I don't understand how throughout this thread, Rev is referred to as Shondo's friend when for years she has consistently said that she dislikes dramaniggers and clippers who just take shit out of context to generate drama and clicks. I'm not even sure she has ever interacted with him.
None of this Twitter bullshit mattered to her (she literally made jokes about it on stream the next day and another joke on Twitter afterwards) and the only part she felt bad about was she felt she had let her own fans down by not following the three bees aka bee nise bee god and bee have.

>>106226956
you literally have tds

>>106227849
Congratulations, you're the exact type of person that I'm talking about. Didn't even comprehend a word I just said. I hate virtue signaling and tokenism as much anyone. I just wish that he wouldn't politicize his criticisms of it because by doing so, he's trying to claim our hobbies as something that belongs to the right instead of something that belongs to anyone.

>>106227849
nta but you have to be <100 iq to still use that term now in response to criticism

>>106227822
It's more the general group of people he caters to who previously supported Shondo, often loudly. I remember those types dogpiling other people in her name, regardless of her approval.

>>106227964
>be accused of tds
>sperg out
tds outted alert

>>106215932 (OP)
Nekozawa and Kazahana are not grifters. They're just general news channels. The rest however, are absolutely grifters.

>>106226956
Pretty much same. He went from presenting rational takes to pandering. It's pretty obvious in how often he contradicts himself now.

>>106228026
I didn't sperg out. I literally just explained why I think politicizing agreeable stances that anyone regardless of politics can get behind is stupid, yet you're the sperging out because you somehow cannot comprehend the fact that agreeable stances exist.

>>106228041
Nekozawa is fine. Kazahana is absolutely a grifter churning out content for the ad revenue. Almost every video he produces is just him reading some bullshit on Twitter verbatim for ten minutes.

>>106216873
>She said that male vtubers are groomer sexpests. That's not something retarded, that's something true.
I can't really say shit because I'm not retarded okay I am retarded but not thaaaat retarded but I'm a small male vtuber who got groomed by an older female vtuber and like actually female pussy and all not trans or anything, so like yeah bro it happens in reverse too

>>106228102
Not really because Kazahana doesn't twist anything to agenda-push. He just reads everything verbatim, presents the news neutrally, and lets the audience form their own opinions for themselves like a good journalist should do. Like it or not, the court of public opinion in the digital age matters, especially in an online space like vtubing, so I don't think him reporting on Twitter drama automatically counts as grifting.

>>106228175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUDuXBLl3A

>>106216444
Not only the grifters but the tourists too. So many fucking retards to this day still act like they know the industry because they heard Anycolor shit the bed. Never watched vtubers in their life but insist that they're well informed when they make retarded suggestions or generalizations about the industry

>>106215932 (OP)
Get your own house in order rev! The massive beached whale you married is going directly to hell! Gluttony is a sin!

>>106225108
>>106225568
anything for content!

>>106227964
>he's trying to claim our hobbies as something that belongs to the right instead of something that belongs to anyone.
He's right, leftoids dont deserve hobbies they deserve to be six feet under for the current state of things.

>>106215932 (OP)
These whores are the ones that you should have gatekept, you retarded cuck. This is what you get when your hobby is now infected with twitch whores and their simps. Now all you can do is eat shit, because you can no longer get rid of them.

shondo and bao hate all men. including their fans. fuck these sexist cunts

>>106229501
*male vtubers

>>106223803
>Pippa and Kirsche are saving vtubing from the likes of you though?
What an absolute faggot. Are you a fucking twatter troon? You sound like one.

>>106215932 (OP)
why is it always this faggot

>>106215932 (OP)
I think everyone mad about what shondo said is a male Vtuber who feels called out.

>>106215932 (OP)
hey rev

Bitches like Shondo and Bao ruin the entire indie vtubing scene.

>>106232817
t. rev

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>>106215932 (OP)
>makes retarded ambiguous empty statement
>ppl call her out on retarded tweet
>ohhh noo guyz Im on the silly hOspital agane need a 2 months break, please buy me merch bai

>>106232382
Accurate

>>106234454
Male vtubers are all groomers and there's nothing ambiguous or empty about this unless you consider stating tautologies out loud empty

>>106229433
But the right are the ones who caused the current state of things.

>>106229473
"commentary" channels are even lower than whores, nobody needs a bunch of parasites that insert themselves into real vtuber's problems for scraps of ad revenue

>>106221542
>Worthy men
Why do you sound like a white knight faggot but for men? Your aware where you are right?

This is my first time on /vt/ and I've never seen such a pathetic group of simps in my life. Imagine hating your own gender this much

>>106215932 (OP)
More like end of cancerous liggers

>>106239973
I hate male vtubers because I love being a man, actually. Why would I want to watch anime dudes with gayass designs?

>>106229433
>current state of things
>right wing are largely the majority in power at the moment

>>106228132
What's your point? "It also happens in reverse" come on dude, we both know what the numbers will roughly look like.

>>106240192
>at the moment
how about the last 30+ years culturally?

>>106215932 (OP)
This is all Twitch drama. It has nothing to do with actual vtubers.

>>106239973
>This is my first time on /vt/
no shit we can tell, you revfags are desperate to defend that shitty douchebag

>>106216457
>shondo says something retarded and people call her out on it
...but she was telling the truth?
It's just all the chuds got mad at being called out.

>>106215932 (OP)
All three people in that image are bad people.

>>106247874
they weren't called out, they were played like a fiddle by the male vtuber who did

>>106242031
Also the right. You're forgetting that we also had 8 years of Bush recently.

Thank God

>>106240192
Absolute fucking retard that you are, ill point out that the left culturally was dominant in all things from pop culture to institutions and media/news/government. The only thing that has changed is that Trump won again and now there's a bit of pushback. There still is mass left wing control over much of these areas, but you guys think that anything that isn't leftwing is suddenly a takeover and a threat to democracy. Its weird how you spout youre for equal rights and fair voting but only if it's your side. Its not democracy, its communism, you just want a one party, one ideology solution. Stop being fake and lying

>>106248435
>the left culturally was dominant in all things from pop culture to institutions and media/news/government
true
>The only thing that has changed is that Trump won again and now there's a bit of pushback
I'm not convinced somebody actually living in America would believe this. It's the same shit in reverse. Every social media platform that isn't a cope refuge for lefty millennials (bluesky etc) has reversed course on this or is in the process of doing so right now (tiktok). All of the major players in pop culture at a business level are openly apologetic about their woke-era behavior, most notable Disney which has straightforwardly apologized to figures they attempted to cancel and adjusted their content accordingly. I would say Hollywood actors still broadly lean left but most have shifted to "I'm not important so I will no longer comment on politics" unless they are old and no longer career focused. Every major media corp in America has paid millions in apology money to the current administration, the previous TDS headquarters of CNN has obviously shifted its content accordingly, and talking heads on MSNBC openly defend Trump now. And, obviously all 3 branches of government have flipped. It is more than "a bit of pushback", it is literally the same dynamic playing out in reverse, and you sound like a delusional crybaby denying it. I would legitimately respect you more if you just gloated like an asshole about it, it so shameful being so addicted to woke era victim complex posting that you have to pretend nothing has happened in the past decade while you carry on about this.

>>106215932 (OP)
the hobby won't stop overnight because two thin-skinned misandrists had a melty

>>106252389
People like you and rev have never been a vtuber fan, to us, these girls are our every week, our every day
But to you, it's just some weekend drama you fuck around in and forget about afterwards
After your retarded damage, we have to help pick these girls up because some tourist community that should have never have fucking interacted with them started harassing them over some made up bullshit in their head

You don't care about any vtuber, you barely even care why you are in this thread, you are just a bored, sad man that finds excuses to attack other people for your own insecurities

>>106253194
Bro grow up, they don't care about you and you need to get a wife. Also ive seen THE not some of, not one of, but THE most heinous shit said about vtubers here. That comment towards Gura is the tamest ive seen in a while. Not that id say its right to say so, but its a joke

>>106253291
I'm an indie, I'm so fucking tired of men like Rev creating drama in the space, talking about how "male vtubers aren't groomers" yet posts shit like this

>>106227628
she didn't retract them.

>>106253419
Based, thotpatroled

>>106253419
Oh that's a man, baby

Its okay to be a man no matter how much it makes this schizo lolipedobaiter misandrist libtard seethe
Very happy she's about to kill herself like her mom lmao

>>106256946
Yeah, it's okay to be a man
It's not okay to be a male vtuber though

>>106256946
If we're going to talk about all men, then statistically you're much more likely to neck yourself than her anon.

>>106257030
Seethe woman/tranny.

>>106257139
If I were a woman/tranny I'd be fighting for male vtubers though.

>>106257201
Sure thing misandrist scum

>>106257318
Sorry anon, but women/trannies are the only ones who watch male vtubers. It's unfortunate that this is how you learn what you're really fighting for.

>>106257318
how much have you superchatted to your oshi?
how long have you been membered?
how much merch have you bought?

>>106257416
Whatever you say misandrist shitstain

>>106257935
Poor guy. Mindbroken by reality.

>>106257906
none
none
none
You're all cuckolds no matter what I do though

>>106215932 (OP)
It ended when you let vtubers stream on twitch

>>106257992
Says the mentally ill misandrist seething just because someone said its ok to be male.

>>106258349
Poor guy, also never learned how to read so he missed the part where everyone keeps repeatedly saying that this isn't about men, it's about male vtubers specifically.

>>106258296
how would you even keep that from happening though unless you share similar ideas with the guy who just got fired

>>106220913
great, ao was a shit and chama needs a break

>>106219170
>Streaming is not a hobby, at least not for most people
The vast majority of people streaming do it as a hobby. Less than 0.1% are making a living off of it, so the remainder are either delusional people thinking they'll eventually get to that point, or people that have accepted they won't and do it because they find it fun.

>>106253194
If you're talking about anyone other than Pikamee, I don't believe you.

>>106215932 (OP)
>We told you not to invite the grifters in.
>Now they will keep attacking EVERY one of your oshi's until it's dust.
Shondo is the worst offender, as she invited The Gator Gamer, who is responsible for an army of subhumans actively trying to dox all talents.

>>106260486
You don't believe vtuber fans on a vtuber board catch 99% of their oshi's streams?

>>106261112
>we have to help pick these girls up
No, I don't believe they white knight their oshis as hard as they declare. Unless their oshi is Pikamee, of course.

>>106224294
5 minutes of watching a vtuber they pretend to like because BASED? That's way too much work for a nostreams tourist faggot. You're gonna have to make a clip.

>>106258022
>I have committed $0 to vtubing
>I also expect everyone in vtubing to bend to my influence
What causes this mental illness?

If she wants to act like a feminist she should be treated like one.

>>106218651
>male in a female hobby is a groomer.
>groomer
You are too terminally online. Imagine saying some shit like this to a person at work. Using "Groomer" in the context of adult women is fucking retarded.

>>106242031
LOL
LMAO

>>106220800
>his friends
I know he's been using Shondo for content for a long time but has Shondo herself ever even acknowledged his existence?

>>106262245
Why would anyone bend to his influence even if he spent money? Makes no sense.

>>106224971
Shondo is in hospital because she decided to try underdosing her meds then did a two-week subathon. Nothing Rev has ever said has been of any actual consequence.

>>106215932 (OP)
You can save the industry by not engaging with this shit. Don't watch videos, don't comment, don't tweet and honestly don't post on /vt/ about it. These people need drama so the less you engage the better. Also, at this point I kinda want the mods to delete /vt/. This board lost everything that made it good and is now really nothing more than an extension of the drama sphere.

>>106263780
Because almost everyone in this industry is a grifter? If these retards dropped serious cash I can assure you half of the male collab bad gfe chuubas would instantly flip to right wing grift slop.

>>106220800
>the backlash happened after rev
no, it didn't. this is revisionism.

>>106264579
nice pun anon