Thread 106274854

https://x.com/ANTllSM/status/1985297125505208349
So some of you might not now because of the male vtuber drama she caused, but she had a secon drama going on at the same time (also caused by herself) whining about artists she paid for art publishing their finished work publicly before she used it in her debut videos / projects.
She also said "FUCK YOU SKEB" (Skeb is a big japanese company handling art commissions and things related to it).
So SKEB made an entire twitter longer explaining to everyone in lawyer language that entire work of it artists are legally the property of it's creators and they can post it whenever the fuck they want to.
Bao deleted her tweet after that.

>>106274854 (OP)
As much I hate this misandrist, she was based for trying to shit on artist. These smug assholes with their coddled up community of cry bullies can eat bricks

>>106274854 (OP)
>But here's how Bao is actually winning the argument!

>>106274901
Why use a service that explicitly allows for artists to do what they want with the completed art if you don't want that happen? There are plenty of other ways to commission art.

This guy is a Phaseshill but he talks more about drama than Phase.
You have a really weird fanbase

Fake drama. I'm not being a part of it
Act like an attention grabbed tool on your own.

>>106274924
Because I hate artist. Like seriously the majority of Artist are spoiled fucks that constantly cry about something and if you don't suck their dicks online, they will harass you. God I hate them so much. Like seriously, they're like as bad as game journalist

>>106274924
You aren't allowed to expect her to read and understand a service she uses, she has a brain disability and nothing is ever her fault :( you're being a big meanie this is ableist

>>106275013
why are you using the singular

>>106274951
That's Phase fanbase in nutshell

>>106275013
disgruntled ai fag I see

>>106274854 (OP)
she kneel

>>106274854 (OP)
and bao wins again

>>106275025
Do you need to ask?

>>106274854 (OP)
Ermm...baosxisters... Where is the defence Force?

>>106274924
Why does a worthless service like that even exist?

>>106275164
There are a lot of western artist commission sites, where they buyer actually gets the ownership of the art. But SKEB is more like a random japanese artists doing art on the side for some cash, and they even have a fucking clause telling to your face that all the art remains as the property of the artist when you commission it on their site.
Japanese yen is ultra low in value to USD, so they are cheap.

>>106275164
Cheap, centralised, removes the need to talk to people, manages deadlines for you and refunds if the artist doesn't produce.

Questions for the numbers experts.
Biboo keeps hitting 899,999 subs and then it drops down to 899,900 and starts counting up again.
Is this just youtube being youtube?

>>106274854 (OP)
This is why western vtubers are so hated lol. They're so fucking entitled and narcissistic it's INSANE

>>106275120
Unrelated to the thread at hand, but damn, Russia is that big? I know they were big, but I thought they would only be roughly China sized. In this map they look 2-3x bigger than China

>>106275399
Russia is a little under twice the size of China, but it looks bigger than that on most projections because it is further north.

>>106275013
>Because I hate artist.
Holy! My ESL senses are tingling lmao!

Just because Bao has been defeated this time does not mean we can relax. Keep fighting for artistic freedom.

>>106275307
Just YT being YT
Biboo's subs count is 899*** - only the first 3 digits are certain
If you're using a 3rd party site it is likely not accurate

>>106275399
How is this the first time you've seen a map of the world.

>>106275399
Russia is a huge swath of land, but a lot of it isn't developed/settled much at all and they cluster their population mostly into one half.

RIP Bao for not reading the rules. But artists are annoying. The thought of owning something somebody pays you to make doesn’t exist anywhere else. Unless you hash it out in a contract I guess, but who would do that? They also constantly fear monger about AI taking their jobs.

>>106275656
They may be annoying sometimes but do they deserve to be killed?! No!

>>106274854 (OP)
https://x.com/skeb_jp/status/1985254677018202494
https://x.com/skeb_jp/status/1985300024776159384
https://x.com/skeb_jp/status/1985288452540449092
Skeb responds in English

>>106275164
Because it is dirt cheap in comparison to commissioning an artist. But it’s dirt cheap for a reason, you just give an artist your idea and they draw something for you no communication beyond that and they keep the rights. It’s like paying a street artist for a quick sketch. Bao was just being cheap and complaining about not being given premium service and threw a tantrum.

>>106275656
>The thought of owning something somebody pays you to make doesn’t exist anywhere else
Sounds like those people are getting dicked then rather than artists being entitled.

>>106274901
fpbp

>>106275751
TL;DR: You send money to an artist and they might send back a shitty sketch when or if they remember to do so. If you don't like it, tough luck.

>>106275164
Price and convenience. Like Fiverr. You get what you pay for.

>>106274854 (OP)
Bao should double down on the artists shitting on her and defend AI to own the haters.

>>106275164
>>106275920
>It’s like paying a street artist for a quick sketch
this is the exact model it's trying to emulate, except it's "i gave an artist at comiket my autograph book for 5 minutes"

>>106276082
I've only started using skeb after getting scammed out of thousands of dollars from twitter "artists". I've only really had 3 ish bad works delivered to me out of a hundred and I get refunded after the period expires.

>>106275452
Thanks boss

>>106275399
nigga are you 5 years old?

>>106274854 (OP)
>>106275751
This is utterly embarrassing and hilarious at the same time.

>>106275399
Mercator projection has set back people's perception of the world more than flat earth theory. Go look at a globe

>>106274854 (OP)
Damn this Cinder stuff really got her acting up.

>>106274854 (OP)
Skeb is fucking retarded and can punch sand, their rules sucked and were always in dire need of changes
Corporate culture should be "learn from mistakes" instead of "double down on dumb shit"

>>106275399
>>106275541
>cluster their population mostly into one half.
>>106276521
it's worse than that even. almost all of their population is in st petersburg and moscow, and of that most of it is in moscow. it's barely an exaggeration to say that russia as a geopolitical entity is just moscow.

>>106276681
https://x.com/skeb_jp/status/1985300024776159384
They literally said: if you don’t like our rules, use other platforms

>>106274901
fpbp

>>106275013
Hahaha holy fuck, thss turd wolder is so mad. Maybe you should be this mad about what's happening in your country.

Why is it so hard for women to admit they were wrong?

>>106274901
As much as i hate artist snobness, this L in on Bao for not reading their clearly state TOS.

>Doesn't understand the concept
>Criticize
>Ignore the fact that you chose Skeb when there are other sites that meet your needs

>>106274951
All dramafag are phasefag, there are no exception.

>>106274854 (OP)
Groomers win

>>106277014
omg why doesn't the motorbike keep the rain off me?

>>106274854 (OP)
Isn't it common courtesy for artists to not release the art before the client uses it? For example, an artist who worked on an mv will only tweet after the mv premiered.

>>106275399
There are ten year olds on /vt/

>>106277516
It's common courtesy if you actually communicate your wishes and it's an actual comission, not skeb.
>>106277014

>>106277516
It would be with a direct commission, but there is no real interaction between artist and client on skeb by design. Part of the deal is that the artist doesn't need to consider anything like that.

>>106277623
you can also just say "american"

>>106275399
Next you'll be amazed how much bigger Mexico is to the majority of Europe.

>>106276801
Weird that they would mention Fiverr. Last I remember, that place was, like, 80 percent scammers.

>>106274901
artificial fingers made this post

>>106277945
helps demonstrate the value of their platform by reminding people what a fucking ballache it can be to do independently.

You can always pay western artists 600 dollars plus commercial use fees for a chibi that will maybe be done in six months with one revision entitlement.

>>106277516
If she says something like 'wait for me to show it off on one of my streams!', how exactly is the artist supposed to know? Is the artist supposed to follow her social media and YouTube channel to know when they're supposed to post? You can't really specify dates on Skeb at all, it blocks a lot of that through filters (for example, one commission I tried to submit before forced me to change the details because it mentioned a birthday in the scenario, you can't submit with things like that). The artist probably just wanted to show off art that they did to attract more people to commission them. There's also the ultimate defense that it uses MTL if you're submitting in English, sometimes it can fuck up the message and get lost in translation.

>>106274854 (OP)
She is a woman, they can't read.

>Platform immediately comes out to defend their artists against evil entitled western whores
That's kinda based ngl

>>106275399
Yes it's huge, but on the other hand I think most of it has lots of hostile cold segments. Like Australia and everyone is at the coasts due to how hostile the heat is away from the coasts.

>>106278270
exceedingly so

>>106274854 (OP)
this bitch melting down trying to distract from sinder's counter-allegations

>>106274854 (OP)
So is Bao entering the lolcow arc?

>>106278203
It's crazy. She has had the same thing happen many times. She didn't even think about contacting the artist about it. If she contacted them about this they would have informed her that they are allowed to do it per sites rules. She'd just have egg on her face with that one artist in being ignorant with how things work. Instead she didn't even bother inquiring why something was posted early multiple times and then aired it out on fucking social media.

>>106274901
>>106275013
kek, went from "fbfp" to getting shit on by everyone

>>106274901
>>106275013
You will never be creative

>tape banana to a cavas
>282883 million dollars
>make invisible sculpture
>24.5 million
Nah fuck artists ai replacing them is hilarious and justified

>>106276998
No fathers.

>>106278496
What does this have to do with SKEB?

>>106274901
It's not artist fault the retarded couldn't understand something four fucking times and agreed to it all four times

>>106278523
Xir is trans, they also can't read.

>>106274924
Anon doesn't understand Japanese art culture

>>106278183
Skeb's filters got really anal sometime last year. I tried like 3 times to reword a request, even using almost identical wording to one that was fine previously, no dice. I found Coconala instead and had a good experience with explicit commercial usage rights included...

>>106276998
Truth is if you're disappointed in a woman that's all on your fantasies you've made in your mind. You're upholding women to standards they will never meet. The super majority of women will refuse to be held accountable for their actions and will frequently deny them until the day they die. Accountability is for men, not for women. Hence why women shouldn't be in a position that accountability would matter.

>>106278672
oh no! woe is me having to read terms and conditions!

>>106278496
>Failed to understand that an art piece named comedy is literally the instructions for taping a banana to a wall not the banana taped to the wall
>Il sono only sold for 18k not 24.5 mil
>Brainlets are still mad they can't convince a girl to give up some pussy let alone make their monthly wage off scamming faggots
Sun rise sun set

>>106278672
At this point they ought to bar any commissions that involve the character Bao. Don't trust the site? Can't use it for your character anymore. Problem solved, take your drama and business elsewhere.

>>106276177
What are you getting made? Fetish shit? Or something more wholesome?

>>106278672
Shouldn't have cheaped out and used Skeb in the first place. I am still confused how did she not understand how Skeb works when the first things you see on their homepage are comissioned artworks posted by the artists.

What is it with this bitch? why is she going from one controversy to the other? Is Bao that washed? Is dramabaiting really that good and her need for noombers this pathetic?

>>106274854 (OP)
who cares? SKEB is trash

>>106275399
I think it's funny how blacks are literally not capable of understanding how a rectangular map projection distorts the globe. They literally think the whole world is a flat rectangle.

>>106279380
but how do we explain 95% of flat earthers being whites who think the un flag means the world is a pizza

Western vtuber was a fucking mistake.

>>106279568
It was. We let pedos like Shondo and Gura into it.

>>106274901
KWAB

>>106274854 (OP)
we did it reddit

>>106279689
... matsuri and fubuki?

>>106274854 (OP)
is pixiv any different? can people commission someone there and ask them not to post it? there's a different section for commissions there, but I haven't paid attention to it

>>106278496
You do understand that "high art" is just another avenue for the rich to launder money

>>106279841
It's roughly the same

>>106274901
>NO SAAR YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY SLAVE SAAR I'LL REPLACE YOU WITH AISLOP BITCH BASTERD

The entire Bao sperg out could be summed up with pic related.

>>106278672
Another bao melty, from an hour ago
https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1985389774807683124

>>106281030
Surely she will cut her loses and not double down again.

>>106278672
she's so retarded holy shit

>>106281030
>gets ass blasted by skeb
>m-m-my tweet wasn't about skeb

Honest opinion
Skeb has retarded aged system, sadly it's one that's ok for them and artists. BUT Bao making ramble about skeb and similar systems is hella retarded

>>106281030
She really can't own up to her mistakes.
Dammit woman. Is it hard to say "I am sorry, I will stop" before making consecutives fuck ups?

>>106274901
I love Bao but this was a huge L
She should have been better

Sinder won

Reimu, stop making new threads

>>106275446
How is it esl?
he forgot a s dude..

>>106282569
It's "an s"
And he (you?) did it multiple times

>>106278496
>tape a banana to a wall as a shit post
>even label it "comedian"
>6 years later retards obsessed with marble statues (yet wont pay for one) still seethe over it

>>106281878
what were you expecting? People taking accountability after saying dumb shit on social medias? This is 2025 anon

>>106275013
Kek, failed artist seething.

>>106281030
ngl if I was ever approached by Bao I might legit turn her down. Insane post.

>>106283711
ok but ... that ass though

Playing ayggs makes my balls tremble with excitement

>>106283790
I meant art job wise.

>>106274901
It shows she has no backbone.

>>106284278
Got it, well more generally, simply avoid unstable attention-seekers who never take responsibility and love tossing others under the bus. Oh… that’s almost every VTuber, isn’t it? man being an artist sucks

>>106281030
>"I HATE YOU SKEB!"
>hours later, after getting massively BTFO'd
>"it-it's not about skeb......"
LMAO

>>106281030
>my post was not about skeb
>her first reply to said tweet was “I hate skeb”
What a retard

>>106284877
> women are never wrong

So she commissioned an artist for NSFW art for her only fans but the artists post it publicly and she got mad?

"You've read that wrong" is the equivalent of "I'm sorry you feel that way". It's a non-apology.

>>106282647
At least he managed to give an "s" to "fucks" and "dicks", which is kinda funny.

>respect muh japanase culture
I will not respect a culture from a country that is causing their own extinction and are willingly being replaced right now

>>106286301
Ok Kirsche, take your meds

>>106274901
Robots will eat you all the same. First they came for the artists, etc.

>>106274901
kill yourself content leech

>>106286301
It's based desu, there's no reason to live in a world with 2 billion jeets

>>106286301
You're spamming the same shit on evert thread with this topic Rajesh , go back spamming nigger dicks on /gif/

What was even the artwork that started this drama? I wanna see

>>106278496
This fucking retard keeps and keeps going on.
Those aren't even artists the banana tape and alike are money laundering schemes for millionaires.

You're a fucking retard asshurt at artist because probably one of them didn't want to draw your dragon dildo diaper fetish garbage for free

>>106286301
But enough about the USA.

>>106278496
Anon those "artists" are the ones embracing AI the most

>>106286301
>causing their own extinction
feminism is a jewish invention, and has been causing the downfall of the whole western world

I would delete it as well when thousands upon thousands of butthurt incels go fully insane over it.
Bao was 110% right and it completely wrecked all the fucking retards.
Just wait until it she comes out as married/in a relationship. Mass suicide the minute it happens kek.

>>106287696
Kirsche we told you to fuck off already, take your nazi shit elsewhere

>>106281030
Why is she doing this? Why double down? She knows people took screenshots of her post.

>>106287760
She knows her army of cucks will defender her no matter what and she's a woman

>>106274901
>this misandrist
you aren't subtle

She's a mentally ill Asian woman, this is SOP

>>106275656
AI art is better than most art made in the past 35 years. Also, AI movie software is great for small personal projects.
>>106274854 (OP)
Is that one of her jokes in which she pretends to be too emotional by typing in all caps? Seems like it since I have seen her comments when she is genuinely upset and they are not in all caps.

>>106274901
>>106275013
if it wasnt thanks of those "artist" you despise nothing of the vtuber world you enjoy would even exist. Like it or not, they are the absolute foundation of this world.

>>106287756
>Defending kirsche unprompted when someone espouses similar far right views

>>106286301
You're posting on /vt/ on 4chan.

>>106290018
>defending
Anon your reading comprehension doko?

>>106289933
It goes both ways

I'm a regular Skeb customer and I will fucking anti this bitch if it makes it harder for me to get porn commissioned

>>106290965
are you retarded? why would it even affect you, you absolute dumb fuck

>>106291171
>"In order to not have to deal with retarded western whores anymore, we will now only be accepting payment from Japanese-only payment providers"

>>106275013
holy brown skin. i can smell you through this post

>>106291269
Exactly and even artists themselves might just hit the reject button if they get a request from overseas since they don't want to deal with dumbfuck gaijins and I don't blame them either

Anyways how does Bao keep constantly getting away with acting like a retard?

>>106291269
Thanks for proving you’re indeed an absolute retard, with zero understanding of business

>>106291443
Skeb isn't a regular business dumbfuck

>>106274854 (OP)
holy KWAB'd

>>106291531
You’re seriously overestimating how much one retarded western whore matters here. Stop projecting your paranoia.

>>106291269
>30% of revenue comes from overseas customers
they'd be silly to shut down outside commissioners, especially after all the recent trouble they went through with payment processors just to keep customers

remember when a japanese idol company shut down an entirely brand (killing their chinese market) because some trouble?
they can be silly

>>106274901
AI may improve
But you won't

>>106292049
You really don’t know what you’re talking about if you think those two things are even remotely comparable

>>106274901
>>106275013
Brown hands typed this.

>>106279733
Nah spend any time with them and they make it impossible to defend them

>>106294386
it seems like some of them came here, too. unless there are artist simps for some reason

>>106291631
You're underestimating japanese company retardation

>>106296703
doesn't bao live in some commie state? maybe the japs should do it, i want to see the end result, fag

>>106283711
lol but at least if she approaches you, you can work out the details and have them in writing.
The problem here is that she's using platforms that don't facilitate extra rules like "don't release it until I say"

>>106296703
You're right but to be fair the issue you're talking about is ultra exasperated by payment processors.

>>106283790
>that ass though
honestly pretty mid when you see it outside of flattering cherry-picked angles

>>106279772
It's fine when JP does it.

bao is hot so she can do whatever she wants

>>106274854 (OP)
Based artists

I did not have chuds plus artists bringing down bao on my 2025 bingo

>>106287252
The irony of this is artists for decades made fun of truckers and laborers saying they will be obsolete with AI and robots in the future and they will be safe since" no robot can make art" OH they were so wrong lmao

>>106274854 (OP)
Without any bait can Bao just keep her mouth shut for like a minute?

>>106274901
>barge into club
>break all the rules
>screech about it when you're kicked out
le based prostitute

>>106279456
What is per capita?

>>106274854 (OP)
>Vtubers
>
>Please read before checking the ToS box. ToT
>
>I know you’re really excited to get some cool art made, but you might accidentally break a rule or put someone in a bad spot. ToT
>
>So many artists end up getting harassed or even receiving threats because someone didn’t read the ToS ToT ToT ToT
I wish someone would post something like this on Twitter.

Asmongold defends Bao, calls out people dogpiling as lacking critical thinking skills

Pippa defends Bao, calls out people dogpiling as grifters and retards

>>106304853
>>106304901
How much are the bots worth?

>>106304853
based baldfag

>>106304853
Soon as the roach agrees with you, you know you fucked up.

wtf, so you pay these japs to make art and THEY own it still? what the fuck kind of scam is this?

>>106305313
You don't know how Skeb works? The fee is cheap but you do not get any other agreement because the drawings in Skeb are not for commercial purposes.
If you want all the things from the usual commission, then go for the usual commission rate in other sites or directly talk to the artist.

>>106306006
No, i never heard of it before
very sus, glad AI will holocaust them

>>106306006 (me)
Western people like to exploit that Skeb is cheap as hell but want all the advatanges from usual commissions, which is something that Skeb always put in their TOS that it can't be done like that.

>>106275399
This is the average third world shitposter you people interact with on a daily basis.

>>106296703
He's got a point.

>>106274901
Fippybippy

>>106305313
Yes. If you're struggling with the concept i suggest you buy a nintendo game and try to resell copies of it publicly.

>>106274854 (OP)
Shes getting sued isnt she?

>>106286301
It's 2025 the only countries without that problem are some African ones

>>106304853
this retard doesn't know what shondo did. he is blindly parroting third-hand opinions

>>106310206
first time?

>>106304853
>Asmongold defends Bao, calls out people dogpiling as lacking critical thinking skills
Asmongold's stream on critical thinking didn't mention VTubers like Bao or Shondo. He emphasized that it's not just leftists; people on the right can also lose support over a single differing opinion, using Vivek Ramaswamy as an example.

>>106274854 (OP)
Thinking of Bao's folds

>>106285250
>>106275446
Maybe he thought it can be used similar to 'The French' or 'The Irish'

>>106274854 (OP)
Good

https://x.com/andhehatedus/status/1985433576444477844

I need to vent briefly so I might as well do it here:
>actively participate in discourse all week
>'waah my oshi blocked me just because I gave valid critisism'

>>106314607
valid block, these kind of entitled fans are the worst. Good riddance

>>106315333
good riddance indeed

Does this mean Bao has graciously allowed artists to post their drawings again? Thank you!

This Bao shit is the most flaccid, boring drama I've ever fucking seen, are we really so desperate for a new Sinder to throw rocks at that we'll settle for something this stupid?

>>106315678
Reimu keeps making new threads, this nothingburger would've died by now

>>106315678
The skeb thing? Kinda, in the end its just a woman moment, but instantly after the previous drama means more critics' eyes are on her atm. But we can keep bumping this i guess

Shondo obviously faking or hamming up her supposed mental illness.

>>106275013
you didn't even answer the question

>>106306201
not knowing basic geography sounds extremely american

>>106274854 (OP)
Good

>>106314607
hope she sees this lil bro

>>106320104

That will only make her more convinced that she’s in the right. this fan is retarded

>>106315678
It'd die if she put down her phone, she spent an entire day blocking random people

>>106282352
>just apologize to the retarded internet mob throwing rocks at you bro! it'll be fine!
Bao should triple down and tell you and your kind to kill yourselves

>>106323223
Camila had the emotional intelligence to do it correctly and got away scot free

>>106285011
For her Fansly, I swear it is totally different and she is not a whore...

>>106274901
> Liking Vtuber
> Hating artist
You're literally a corpocuck. You like being a consoomer and nothing more than a number on a spreadsheet. Fuck off and rope.

>>106274854 (OP)
Sad

>>106324752
Isn't Bao an indie? Why the corp seethe out of nowhere?
That guy just sounds like an AI supremacist anyway.

>>106274901
I bet this guy is a aislopper

It's not unreasonable to ask an artist not to publicly post the artwork you paid them for before you use it for the purpose for which you commissioned it. Most artists would probably be okay with that too, just make sure to talk to them about it before you seal the deal. There was no reason to make a public call out about it.

>>106330212
>There was no reason to make a public call out about it.
You expect adults to act like adults?

>>106330212
I don't disagree with you. Just going to point out that none of that applies to skeb where you aren't actually allowed to do that.

>>106330212
Hell a lot of them don't post that shit publicly at all

>hate Bao
>hate dramafags
>no matter who wins, I lose

>>106335720
Make sure both lose, then you win?

>>106335773
the EN scene is doomed by the increasing encroachment of male dramatubers and the pickmes who enable them. What hope is there?

>>106336026
Hope that it all burns to the ground

>folded immediately because she was going against minorities instead of White males this time
Women are pathetic

>>106330212
>It's not unreasonable to ask an artist
She didn't ask. She did the female thing where they assume a person will read her mind and then do what they want, then got unreasonably upset when it obviously didn't happen.

>>106299498
this but unironically

>>106326617
>Why the corp seethe out of nowhere?
Corpos are the one championing AI so using indie to defend AI is beyond ironic, it's even daft.
Even from me who dislike Bao and use AI for personal non commercial purposes.

>>106274901
>>106274854 (OP)
it was her responsibility to tell the artists to not publish that before she had used them

>>106274901
>this misandrist
How can she be something that doesn't exist?

>>106274901
Brown people need to be quite they aren't real people

>>106339557
You are claiming that women that hate men do not exist?

>>106330212
Sure, it´s not crazy to ask politely.
But why make it public?
Bao is just another grifting bitch like all female indies, but because she´s also retarded and acts like a nigger who cant think 5 minutes ahead, has no filter and blames everyone but herself when called out.
A huge army of simps and "friends" with big fanbases shilling for her doesn´t help.

>>106338193
I think you're so mad you can't make a coherent point.

>>106339625
>t.