Thread 106294250

>nukes Vox and Ethyria with leaks
>comes back from total disappearance just to side with Dokibird
lmao he really nuked niji harder than the coward Mint ever did

>>106294250 (OP)
Mint probably wasn't even all that interested in nuking NijiEN. That incentive probably came directly from Gunrun since all the Vshojo ex-Nijis were all roughly equally as critical of the company. That said, she did obliquely imply the bullying was real long before that already.

>>106294250 (OP)
>coward
shut the fuck up

DOKIBIRD SIDE
Pomu
Nina
Ike
Yugo
Vivi
Kunai

BULLY SIDE
Reimu
Fulgur
Mysta

NEUTRAL
Twisty
Rosemi
Kotoka
Hex

FAGGOTS
Aster
the other blue nigger

Get in her niggas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-T7l1Jfhds

>>106294250 (OP)
>hires a mentally ill woman to bully him
>hires a mentally ill woman to leak his receipts
>hires a mentally ill woman to repair his image
so. he's fully gay, right? like GAY gay.

>>106294250 (OP)
Holy shit, Mint is so based because she doesn't have to deal with any drama. She just streams.

>>106296378
Serious topic now write notes

>>106294250 (OP)
vox is still breathing so gonna need this fag to drop another nuke. total nijien death is needed for the western vtubing kingdom to heal

>misinformed and pressured into decisions that he truly regrets
>later on with further context realized how wrong he was
Why did Vox and Elira do it?

>>106296378
what a horrible design

>>106296214
I'm curious if Dokibird will collab with Rosemi if she ever comes back. I remember back before Ethyria debuted that Rosemi had only good things to say about Selen. It'd be a shame if they drifted apart because of post Ethyria and Luxiem Nijisanji.

>>106298437
>Simplistic AF anime boy he drew a million years ago
Show your art, Picasso, yikes.

>>106296386
>like GAY gay.
He consistently dates women and one of the weakest rrat (meaning absolutely BS) is his sexual abuse on an irrelevant female.
He's just a fucking pussy. A very straight pussy.

>>106294250 (OP)
Who’s Ike again? Was he the guy who jerked off in Vr chat to other girls or the racist one who doesn’t like white people?

>>106298437
horizontal stripes on a white shirt is a nordic staple

>>106296214
I was aware of the others, but could you fill me on on why Fulgur an Mysta was on bullies side?
I thought they were not involved.

>>106299705
Neither. Ike is the least problematic in EN. Outside for the BSS, he had nothing on him and was always very much cherished.

>>106299877
That’s probably why I don’t remember him. Sounds like a boring guy.

>>106299705
>the guy who jerked off in Vr chat to other girls
That's Luca
>>106299705
>the racist one who doesn’t like white people
That's Uki
>>106299967
That's one way to announce you're just a dramafag

>>106299831
Don't engage with the schizo

>>106299877
Then why tf did he do the black stream?
That stream was them realising they in spite of their harassment she only tried offing herself twice and didn't succeed, so this was their last ditch attempt at getting her to finally succeed in killing herself.
This guy tried his best to ensure Doki killed herself.

>>106300041
Don’t blame me. I only get my nijinews from here and you fuckers only talk about drama.

>>106300130
1: That was Elira. She confirmed she volunteered for it.
2: He just admitted that he was pressured into it and lied to joining in. Thats why a year ago, he wanted to apologize but Doki needed time and the two finally spoke it out a few days ago.

>>106300130
Read
>>106298290
>>106297646

>>106299649
>Faggots who were spreading that he was a rapist are now going back at it now that he kneeled to a BPD obese Chinese woman

Kek

>>106299877
Isn't Doppio also relatively clean

>>106299831
Selen viciously bullied Mysta

She told him she hopes he dies
https://youtu.be/E8Hnm3DgFzo?t=2333

She slept with his wife and rubbed it in his face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahdz73-P28g

She made fun of his size down there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1NmB2BoH9E

She deceived him into doing something that he finds terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op0kGqhcZ88

She almost gave him a heart attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoYzmq7VSMY

She's a menace, I tell you. A menace

>Ike apologized a full year ago
>Doki only accepted his apology after he graduated and used his ex girlfriend to go after Reimu, Vox and Millie

KWAB

>>106299719
but why are his sleeve stripes vertical...

>>106300415
There's a few more. Doppio, yes. I don't think I ever heard about drama involving Alban either.

>>106300407
Hi Elira, how's the sub count? Still dropping?

>>106300522
Good question, I don't know

>>106300726
You can tell when faggots like this are schizo posting that they're admitting to be retarded and actually doing what they're being accused of

>>106299831
Fulgur and Mysta played mario party with Reimu as indies

>>106296214
>the other blue
who?

>>106299719
hes an asian chink

>>106300278
And what is his proof for that? Of course he wants to make himself look better do you think he would just say
>I wanted you to kill yourself. We all hated you.

>>106301099
>mario party
You've got to be joking

>>106296214
>Pomu who sang Nijisanji songs literally yesterday
>Yugo who defended Nijisanji multiple times
>Vivi who collabed with Nijisanji 3 days ago

>>106294250 (OP)
>apologizes
>is forgiven
Was it always this easy? No callouts? No google dockeys? No Gossip Girl bullshit?

>>106301099
No they didnt. That was Mysta, Kyo and some indie. Fulgur hasn't been engaging with anyone since he redebuted except for FSP boys and an indie named Vain.

>>106301411
>Yugo who defended Nijisanji multiple times
Didn't they get the most blatant stealth termination of any Niji? That's weird.

>>106301477
Uh, no. The Google dockeys and gossip girl bullshit was necessary. He apologized to her a year ago and she only just decided to forgive him after he leaked those screenshots of him attacking Millie to his ex

>>106298290
>>106297646
Would explain why the fuck he said like, five entire sentences that entire stream.

>>106301477
Importantly:
>apologized behind the scenes, waited until he was forgiven behind the scenes, talked it out behind the scenes
It's amazing what you can do when you just don't drag shit into the public sphere.

>>106301653
I'm noticing you're willingly ignoring that she only forgave him after he graduated and tried dragging Reimu, Vox and Millie into drama using his girlfriend

>>106301099
It was Kyo who arranged the collab and invited Mysta and Reimu. Fulgur was not in that collab. Also, Mysta participated in Doki's tournament, he's not involved in any of this side bullshit.

>>106301182
kyo

>>106301403
check vods

>>106301411
>Pomu who sang Nijisanji songs literally yesterday
it was always pomu song, not a niji song

>Yugo who defended Nijisanji multiple times
proof?
>Vivi who collabed with Nijisanji 3 days ago
yeah fucking ryoma
>b-b-but he is a niji
kys nigger, he is almost out, no collabs, no streams, no streams with the clique

>>106301502
pic rel

>>106301904
>check vods
No, I'm bewildered at you using a Mario Party collab to determine that someone is in on the bullying. That's another level of being terminally online.

>>106301867
Correct. Mysta/Kuro is too busy with tax issues to wade into drama and potentially jeopardize his ability to fulfill whatever structured repayment plan His Majesty's Revenue & Customs has him on.

>>106302014
He already solved his tax issues ages ago. I'm sorry he's not a dramafag like you.

>>106294455
This one's actually a coincidence, though.
Like it could've easily worked for Selen, but this was actually an idol graduation.

Funniest shit is that iirc the original Pomu (the one she took the name from and had as an actual idol oshi) told her to go back to streaming because she was good at it and her fans loved her.

>>106302112
Still obese.

>>106302112
Why does he have to reference his past life every 2nd week?

>>106296214
>vivi
i'm not too sure about that, at least from Doki's pov. normally i don't look into xitter follows too much, but between the raid and the fact that she follows Sunny but not Mogu feels like it says something.

>>106302234
He was reacting to a message a fan sent him referencing his past life

>>106302430
How about stop reacting to past life comments

>>106302439
If he did, you'd complain about him ignoring his fans

>>106302473
Ok mysta

>>106302439
Why does it bother you? That past life is him.

>>106302420
she interacts with the other vtuber jesus, mint

>>106301904
>it was always pomu song
Cope. Pomu is a Nijisanji member

>PROOF???
Yugo's new model stream

>Ryoma doesn't count as a Niji
He collabs non-stop with Claude and Seible. Cope

Also Hex is not neutral. He also defended Niji when the Vshojo explosion happened and after he graduated

>>106301711
She probably forgot he existed tbhdesu
She has been extremely busy for the past year.

>>106303096
>Pomu is a Nijisanji member
*was

Nijisisters are trying to frame Ike as a pedophile now

>>106302724

>>106301477
>Was it always this easy? No callouts? No google dockeys? No Gossip Girl bullshit?

God won't ask for any of that if you repent.

>>106296214
>>106301867
>It was Kyo who arranged the collab

REMINDER, Kyo was the faggot who leaked Doki's multiple document info details to Daph39. Given his history with how he treated Zaion when Niji terminated her, he's definitely firmly in the bully group.

I feel like I missed a whole year of niji drama, since when did ike switch teams

>>106303472
apparently he tried to apologize to doki at some point last year before going crazy, instantly leaving Niji and vanishing from the internet until the recent bari drama flushed him back out. Then a few days ago Doki felt she was ready to hear him out and they reconnected, where he apologized and explained himself in private.

Apparently halfway through the apology she just started showing him random Mega Starmie clips.

>>106303096
Trying to take the angle you are with Mint is like saying Doki supports Niji because she reused Dragoons as her fan name. It's more of a "fuck you, this is mine" kind of move.

Kyrios also explicitly supported Xandu's retrurn pot which was a clear callout against Niji.

>>106303908
>Singing the lazulight song and tweeting a lazulight reference with a heart means you hate lazulight

Completely retarded. Also after Reimu responded, Kyrio tweeted "I don't care anymore" and joked about Bari's Google doc

>>106303388
So they were fine with him until he turned on NijiEN and now he is an evil pedophile?

>>106303472
Technically last year

>>106304055
I also like DCL but hate the Nijiclique. I guess I am Famelira now too.

>>106296214
>No Elira
>No Enna
>No Millie
>No Vox
How come the biggest bully is not mentioned at all?

>>106304227
There's a reason why a lot of variations of picrel came out during Selen Shock. Sisters worship the corp itself and no one is above being attacked for dissent. Some of the staunchest Nijisisters suddenly found themselves ostracized for wrong-think and are now outspoken antis.

>>106304411
It's ex nijis anon

>>106304523
Did that many fucking people leave niji en holy kek

>>106304758
Yeah

>>106304758
You have no idea

>>106304796
>Even Kyo hot a higher bounty than aster
Lol

>>106304227
>Source of the screenshots is r/kurosanji

Kurosanji is full of sisters now? Holy revisionism

>>106294250 (OP)
>nukes
Bari did that with the doxing out of jealous

>comes back from total disappearance just to side with Dokibird
He reached out to Doki long ago; Doki wasn't interested until recently.

>>106305263
Nta but I seem to vaguely remember when this was brought up last year all of you said it was nonsense. So now it's true? Were you defending a predator then or are you trying to smear an innocent person now?

>>106302133
We are all truly Pomu.

>>106302420
i'm 80% sure doki follows sunny because they were in the same sponsorship recently, so she remembered and followed her

>>106296214
>Hex and Kotoka
>Neutral

>>106300278
The Niji contracts literal says they can force them to join the black screen and tell them what to said. You think "disagreements with management were all Aqua, Fauna, Gura, Mumei, etc. words?

>>106305331
I never said it was true. I said fagoons were spreading that he was a rapist ike it was true

>>106300520
>used his ex-girlfriend to go after
There is no proof that Ike told Bari to do things the way she did. If it were about outing wrong why wait for Reimu to talk about relationship drama? For all you know Bari send a generic message to Ike in a panic begging to use his old messages to defend herself because she felt attack.

>>106305625
>fagoons
Do you genuinely believe every single person attacking Niji since February of last year is a "fagoon"? Anyway, you're saying it's not true then? So you're knowingly doing what you accuse "fagoons" of doing last year in that you're now trying to spread it? Interesting.

>>106305803
I'm not saying it it's true or not, retard. Learn to read. Kurosanji fags are obviously fagoons and they were calling Ike a rapist for years. Pretending like he's a good person now when you retards were calling him a pedo rapist then is really funny

>>106303726
>Apparently halfway through the apology she just started showing him random Mega Starmie clips.
Damn she's really mentally ill.

>>106306086
>I'm not saying it it's true or not, retard.
No but you're spreading it, I know in your disordered mind it's difficult to think logically but please read this carefully - if you're spreading it, and you don't believe it's true then you're trying to smear an innocent man. If you're spreading it now and you do believe it then you previously defended a predator. It's a choice between the two.
>Kurosanji fags are obviously fagoons
Oh so you're just schizophrenic then.

>>106296214
>Bully Side: Fulgur and Mysta
Aren't they more neutral? I don't remember them siding with the bully clique.

>>106306390
notFulgur did a duet song cover with notReimu recently
notMysta played Mario Party with notReimu and notKyo recently

>>106304796
>>106304948
My fucking sides

>>106294250 (OP)
why was he even part of the black stream in the first place? I'd have more sympathy if he wasn't, now idgaf

>>106306481
With Pomu having graduated, Ike was next in line for "Selen's best bud", so they pressured him to join so they could show "Even Selen's friend is against her!"

>>106301265
Have you watched the black screen? Elira and Vox had tons to say on the matter and all anyone remembers about Ike was that he crumpled a water bottle. People also thought there was no Ike because they thought it was vox still talking

>>106294250 (OP)
I always knew Ike was innocent.

>>106306390
>>106306446
Fulgur was one of the only current (at the time) Nijis to bring up Selen and talk about her positively, reminiscing about her laugh and hpersonally. He's also a lot older than almost every other liver and has always seemed to be above drama shit to be honest. So I can't really see it personally.

>>106304796
so you have to pay the cops to arrest aster?

>>106305367
Which one is Vivi? The knight? And she's a ghost now? And kunai is galaxy tits?

>>106306551
so he's willingly become his bullies' lapdog knowing they were going full smear campaign on his old coworker, that makes him a shittier character in my book

>>106296214
Not only did kotoka throw sayu under the bus, she also drove it, reversed it, and drove forward again

>>106294955
>ALL OUT WAR
mintcuck

>>106306481
>>106306551
Does beg the question: if the timeline of Pomu's graduation was different, or if she hadn't planned on leaving at all by February 2024 - would she have taken part in the black screen stream? It's obvious they'd have chosen her to do it rather than Ike, and we don't know what lies they told him thst convinced him to do it.

Would Pomu have done it?

>>106306631
Yes.

>>106306481
Vox and Elira got him to be in there to act as a disinterested third party to add some legitimacy to what would otherwise be two birches slinging shit

>>106306723
Mmmm Galaxy tits

>>106306690
Don't think so. She fucking bailed on the 4chan stream right quick because even she knew that was a dumb idea

>>106306390
They are.
schizos are gonna schizo though.

>>106306727
given the shit going on behind the scene, why would he even want to help them out. elira got the key to his chastity cage or somethign?

>>106306679
Don't act like you give a fuck

>>106306679
But ALL OUT WAR against Homostars is based tho? Or are you a Starmin or w/e they're called? Go back to your hugbox thread

>>106306836
>He was misinformed and pressured into decisions that he truly regrets
>later on with further context realized how wrong he was
In his words

>>106306839
>>106306859
Whats the matter? Isn't this what you wanted?

>>106306976
All Out War against Homostars? Yeah sure, I'm fine with that. Are you?

>>106306933
hope he get some birdpussy for his atonement

>>106307024
Assuming you're not samefagging, this is a common sister taxtic of making nonsensical replies to bump a thread they don't like off the board. Ignore them.

>>106306933
I'm surprised that niji fans don't find the fact that he was misinformed concerning.

>>106307132
Nijisisters oshi the company, not the talents

>>106306839
>>106306859
>still coping this hard that whore was talking about homos

>>106296214
>Pomu
Only one that matters.

>>106306690
Considering how she was/is, she likely would've been easily pressured to be in his spot.
And if she learned the truth right after, I wouldn't be surprised if she decided to never come back at all just from shame.

>>106307132
Anon in their minds every ex-liver who speaks out is a traitor and a liar. They're already claiming he's some great mastermind and orchestrated all of the Bari-Reimu thing - they just think he's making shit up.

The livers are perfect, truthful, good people until the moment the graduation happens and then they're potential enemies - and become menhera, untruthful, evil people the moment they say anything even vaguely suggesting Niji had problems.

>>106307284
But it's not a cope when it's true. Maybe you should actually take the time to read the whole Discord convo

>>106306582
A chatter had a Mint Fantome (very close with Doki) profile pic in one of his streams and he called it a nice icon (when he could've just ignored) so he's definitely not hateful toward that side.

>>106307418
I've seen them go as far as to say that Doki orchestrated the entire Bari-Reimu thing. These people have been driven insane by their devotion to the company. Never mind that Bari only dropped docs because Mariie decided to shittalk her on stream. And now Mariie is MIA.

>>106307856
He also directly acknowledged her by name after the black screen a few times while still employed at Niji.
I highly doubt he's hostile to her.

>>106307132
The only fans remaining of NijiEN are willing to give money to a company that practically broadcasted an attempted murder in front of tens of thousands, and has never admitted to doing anything wrong, or even tried covering it up.

These aren't good people. If anything, the thought that Ike was being bullied and pressured into being part of the effort is just another turn on.

Evil sells.

>>106306290
>No but you're spreading it
>No don't remind me of everyone accusing this guy of being a pedophile rapist for two years

Retard

Wonder what Marie is thinking about this whole situation

>>106309085
>misinfo is only important when it's convenient for my side

>>106309197
She knows she lost. She's just gonna lay low for now, then just art streaming again and never speaking of the situation again.
...but then again, she is Latina

>>106302234
Because "Ex-niji" is his whole identity

>>106307418
>>106308002
yeah... Thanks for the bit of sanity. It's easy to get caught up in watching these people say the most insane shit like it's normal.
I just want the threads to calm back down so I can shitpost about the boys pissing themselves in peace man

>>106309197
Marie was begging for a doki collab. Bet she's seething hard rn

>>106300820
Anon... read your own damn post and think for a second. Holy fuck you're goddamn stupid.

Looking forward to the Sayu tweet :3

>>106301411
>>Pomu who sang Nijisanji songs literally yesterday
>Nijisanji songs
She sang one of Pomu's songs. She loves Pomu.
The others? eh.

>>106309703
KWAB

>>106309809
>Sayu out of nowhere
Man sisters are just dying for any kind of win, huh.

>>106309222
>It's misinfo now because Ike is friends with Selen

>>106309622
Honestly I'm a dragoon and I feel the same way.
It was funny the first time, but realistically it should've been ignored and replaced with an actual /nijien/ after, with the bait one never reaching more than like 30 posts at best.
It doesn't feel right watching another general get raided so badly, even if I might not agree with the people who use it.
I don't want all of this fighting and drama. I just wanna watch these stupid anime people yap, man...

>>106309703
>still leeching
Old habits die hard eh Reimu

>>106310024
It was misinfo before, too, thrown together by bad faith dramafags just like the accusations of Vox being some kind of pedophile groomer pre-niji.
I wouldn't be surprised if he grooms fans, but I definitely don't think he's a pedophile.

>>106309252
Marie is physically not able to shut her mouth up. She'll be back dramafagging again before you know it.

>>106310121
Anon, stop butchering the English language to try and make a better point that what you actually have. You don't *think* Vox is a pedophile, you *believe* Vox isn't a pedophile. You have no basis for thought, you're just assuming blindly that it is one way or another. If you were even a little bit clever you'd know that you don't fucking know whether Vox is a pedophile or not and wouldn't make retarded statements about it for that very reason.

>Ike
Was he the water bottle part of that black screen stream?

>>106310216
Yes

>>106310179
>You don't *think* Vox is a pedophile, you *believe* Vox isn't a pedophile
Anon, you've never spoken to an english native in your life, have you?
No english native has ever attempted to make that distinction in this context.
Hell, how would that even work? "Oh, I believe Vox is a pedophile but the thought never crossed my mind."
I said outright that I don't think Vox is a pedophile, which is me stating that I don't believe Vox is a pedophile.
Which you read as "You believe Vox is a pedophile."
So not only are you a hypocrite for trying to reuse old, fabricated ammo that you likely defended yourself, but you also exposed you're ESL. Grim.

>>106310321
>Anon tries desperately to defend his mess with a complete sperging rant
>It amounts to nothing more than "you don't understand English speaking people because you'd know they've given up on using their language properly (aka: Everyone is as lazy and retarded as me and that makes my stupidity okay! This is a good point for me to try making!)
Well, you tried. It was a whole lot of laughable nonsense, but I guess you tried.

>>106310409
Good luck with your next attempt at making Doki look bad.
I can't wait for it to fail yet again and somehow end up boosting her cred. Again.

>>106310539
Aight, you got me. I have absolutely no fucking idea how you ended up at this absurd conclusion. What the actual fuck are you even on about nigger?

>>106310216
Yes . He publicly executed an innocent water bottle

>>106309703
This was Dookieturd's biggest stream in a long long time. If anyone needs collabs and drama tourists it's her, but it might be a good idea to space it out.

>>106294250 (OP)
TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>>106294250 (OP)
>nukes Vox and Ethyria with leaks
>Purposely leak stuff that makes him look good

>>106313831
>>106312745
Go back to typing your google dookie Marie

>>106297272
>the only indie who gets numbers without drama

>>106297646
>yet somehow dokie never claimed those were lies, instead she came up with excuses

>>106303096
Hex will self insert on whatever side looks better

>>106313854
Why should I believe Ike? Or anyone who finds themselves involved in drama.

>>106313975
And?
If the one who was actually harmed forgives the dude and accepts the excuses, what's the problem?
>>106314269
Why would you believe anyone here then?
Vox, Reimu, and Ethyria are far more involved in drama than Ike ever was
Remember that Marie had that whole pedo groomer boyfriend that she even tried to make a child victim commit suicide for.
Do you really think that's the better person to believe?

>>106314538
Imagine making up imaginary accusations about Marie while ignoring the multiple pedophilia and rape allegations about Xanadu

>>106314563
>Complains about legit complaints being "imaginary"
>Acts like imaginary complaints that suddenly came up out of nowhere legit because it suits his narrative
Is that how it is?

>>106314580
>Came up out of nowhere
>A claim made by his confirmed ex girlfriend before he was even in Niji
https://web.archive.org/web/20240209045338/https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srcri4

lol cope

>>106314563
>imaginary accusations about Marie
You know Marie's a vtuber, right?
This story won't get you a 3day anymore.
I could post the whole thing if you'd like, complete with sources from the spanish utaite community.

>>106304948
Please just quit, Petra, if only because it would be funny.

>>106314538
>Why would you believe anyone here then?
And I don't, I don't believe anyone here but I gather information to form my own conclusions.

>>106314610
Then you can also post the screenshots from Marie's Twitter where she harassed the person that they claimed she did, right?

>>106314605
>I was abusing him
>B-but hear me out! H-he also....
Right, right. Those "allegations" eh?

>>106314655
>Being mean to me in discord means I get to rape you

LMAO FAGOON LOGIC

>>106314668
>Anon can't think of a response, so he just makes some random shit up to cope
Ah. That again?

>>106314693
Sorry if the teenage girl Xanadu groomed and cheated on wasn't mentally stable, buddy. Still rape

>>106314801
Do you have a source beside the mentally unstable person who by her own admission isn't a credible source?

Oh, you don't? I see. That's how it is, is it?

>>106314780
I've already that once you spammed it in the catalog non-stop. Where's the proof of the harassment that Reimu said never happened?

>>106314833
Nono, don't just gloss over it with some "I've seen that already" nonsense, what do you actually have to say for it?

>>106314851
>Reimu says she cut him off immediately after learning the age of the person he was dating and that there was no harassment tweet targeted the victim

Don't have any reason to doubt it unless you can prove it

>>106314833
Why don't you ask her boyfriend Rakkun?

>>106314901
Reimu, seriously stop outing yourself so fucking easily.
You lost.
You respond the same fucking way every single time.
And judging from your behavior /here/, there's not a chance in hell you'll ever make up with Doki and get vindicated yourself.

>>106314822
>Do you have a source beside the mentally unstable person who by her own admission isn't a credible source?
Wow! Glad you asked. Picrel is a 15 year old who accused Xanadu of grooming her.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240209045443/https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srcuba

This doc was created by someone in charge of a server specifically for victims who sided with Lollia

>>106314901
>Reimu says
>So I'll just believe that :^)
Ah. Right, of course. The murderer said he didn't kill anyone, so obviously he didn't, as we know criminals usually admit their actions :^)

>>106314926
Concession accepted, faggot. You have no proof

>>106314931
And despite these claims, this person had no chat logs or anything to show? Oh. Right. We're just making shit up and believing it because it suits our narrative... Right?

>>106314936
All these years and you still can't find a tweet from her publicly available Twitter of her harassing this person or find any evidence that she didn't drop him when she said she did?

Keep in mind, in the accusers document, Reimu was only relevant for a single sentence that had no evidence on it

>>106314962
>Chat logs
Yes. As we all know, rape happens through chat logs and not real life

>>106314979
>>106314993
Can you two talk to each other and get your stories straight?

>>106314993
>Ah yes they had contact and met but somehow there is absolutely zero evidence of this, they communicated using smoke signals you see!
Buddy. What?

>>106315010
It's already been confirmed by multiple people that Lollia didn't even graduate highschool when Xanadu was dating her and that he deleted messages he sent to that 15 year old on Twitter

>>106315027
>There is absolutely zero evidence of it
Despite Ike admitting to dating her and them living together when it's already been proven she was not 18?

>>106315043
Ah, so Ike went into her account and deleted the messages he sent her from there as well, I suppose?

>>106315069
Anon, we've been over this. Merely saying shit is not good enough.

>>106315081
The messages are there, you retard. Do you have eyes?>>106314931

>>106315105
>Xanadu says it happened
>Lollia says it happened
>The third party friend says it happened
>"BUT I DIDN'T SEE A PLANE TICKET THOUGH"

What a retard

>>106315069
>Not 18
Age of consent is 16 in Sweden

>>106315231
Lollia is American and was flown to Sweden by him for two months to live at his house

>>106315258
How does the law work in that scenario

what is this pisspoor deflection with rape discussions? how is this relevant? how would this prove marie is not a crazy bitch? if he's a rapist, does that mean marie was chummy and warming up to a rapist? pisspoor ndf deflection

>>106314931
>by someone in charge of a server specifically for victims who sided with Lollia
>victims who sided with Lollia
how does that work?
Didn't you just imply Lollia was the victim?
Hell, did Lollia even have any input on this doc itself?

>>106315340
It's called poisoning the well. Common tactics when someone or a group is losing debate and went into scorched earth tangent.

>>106315157
>The messages
I notice how that's not supporting the claims you made. No noticed that too, but were hoping I didn't? Really?

>>106315326
He's not an American citizen, so American law doesn't apply to him. Any further questions?

>>106315340
Basically, Reimu's mad that she was always the one that people brought up the Hyurno dockey on, so she's trying to use something against Ike in a desperate attempt to save face after the Bari blowout.

Personally, I hope Marie takes the hint and gets the fuck out of the community while people only mildly dislike her before things really start coming out.

>>106315394
Then there is no rape at place, if they had sex after she turned 16 and they did it in Sweden.

>>106314833
It's likely Bari's friends on here trying to push this shit. The same ones who watched Marie's streams for some reason. It is clear that Bari was guided a bit.

Reminds me of that suppose "true" Niji EN screen shoot talking about disciplining Doki that was really being pushed here again and again when Reimu was graduating. Some anon kept saying Reimu leaked it but now Reimu is apart of the group she was exposing again?

>>106315419
>>106315340
This is alot of reaching to get at another ex-Niji. You sound completely objective.

>>106315394
>>106315326
>>106315488
Are you faggots really trying to argue that sex trafficking isn't illegal in Sweden? Swedish penal code chapter 4

>>106315488
Legally, perhaps, but we're not a court and none of you are lawyers. What is up for discussion is the moral implications. Law is generally made after a moral wrong was discovered and laws are written to prevent such wrongs from occurring or at least punishing them, so simply saying "it's not illegal" is a thoroughly terrible excuse when it comes to morality.

That said, all this drama seems fake as shit since the accuser, by her own admission, was abusing the person she is now accusing of wrongdoing. That alone means anything she says on the matter without distinct proof entirely worthless.

>>106315340
I'm not the one who brought up the accusations in this board in the first place. That would be fagoons who concluded that he was a rapist and are now inexplicably defending sex trafficking they say that he did after one collab

>>106315375
>So heavily ESL that I can't tell what he's saying
Seethe more?

>>106315636
Ah, so you have no idea what you're talking about and are just grasping at straws. Nobody in their right mind who knows what they're talking about would go "look up the entire chapter 4 of the Swedish penal code, no I will not be more specific"

>>106315684
>Anon can't tell a "No" is obviously meant to be "You"
Says a lot about you lad. Maybe go back and finish middle school eh?

>>106315636
No I just forgot that's also a thing

>>106315703
>No noticed that too but were hoping I didn't
It's SEA hours. You don't have to be ashamed

>>106315723
Indeed, and as I explained that is very plainly meant to say "You noticed that too but were hoping I didn't". It's not difficult to figure that out, anon. Why did you struggle so much? Why did you need me to explain it not once, but twice?

>>106314833
>I've already that once
Keep deflecting Reimu

>>106315792
Nta but you have no argument and proof other than calling everyone Reimu. Are you Reimu for existing here?

>>106315869
>ESL and defending Reimu
No other proof needed

>>106315688
>I didn't know sex trafficking was bad
Tell it to the judge

>>106315927
Not what anyone said. Why are you debating your own imagination?

>>106315961
It's called a strawman argument anon

So again: sisters are now claiming Ike sex trafficked a 15 year old girl. They knew this last year but defended him because he was still a liver.

So basically nijisisters are happy to defend people they believe are pedophiles. Interesting.

>>106294250 (OP)
pls understand mint had to suck up to her vshojo overlords, who didnt want any trouble with nijisanji

>>106316344
>sisters are now claiming Ike sex trafficked a 15 year old girl
No. You did. I'm just reminding you of what you accused him of then tried memoryholing that you did it when he groveled hard enough

I noticed that the more connected someone is to Doki the more drama there is around that person as well. Starting to think she's a black hole who drags other down with her own bad behavior, like that one joke in the Simpsons

>>106316412
Proof next thread?

>>106316412
>You did
No, I didn't. Nice defelction though. Let me be clear there are two, and only two options in this case:

>you don't believe the accusations
So you're now trying to smear an innocent man as punishment because he left your company, no different from what you're accusing niji antis of doing last year.

>you do believe the accusations
You and other sisters defended someone you believe to be a pedophile for over a year because he was still a loyal member of the company

Neither looks good for you and your fellow nijisisters, you realise that right?

>>106316483
Just look it up in the archive and on plebbit

>>106316514
>You can only believe and not believe! You cannot accept that it's a possibility and move on!

Lmao

>>106316559
So now you're accepting it as a possibility, meaning that last year when you were denying it was even a possibility you were defending someone you believed could potentially be a pedophile.

So you and nijisisters defended someone you believed might potentially be a pedophile. Good to know! I'm sure screenshots from this thread of you admitting that won't at all make it off this site.

>>106316662
>SEAfag is completely dumbstruck by the idea of innocence until proven guilty
RORMAO

>>106316765
Kek, you're now panicking. Bit pathetic. Again >>106316514
We'll see what the wider vtuber community makes of your arguments I guess. Like I say doesn't look good for you sisters either way.

>>106316827
>Someone is "panicking" when they point out the concept of innocent until proven guilty
Nigger, what?

>>106314538
>And?
If she never claimed those accusations were fake then why should Ike say he was lied to? Only a retard wouldn’t understand.

>>106316875
Because you realise that you and other sisters come out looking fucking terrible in either scenario. I know you probably barely received a basic level of education in your mud hut village but it's pretty simple. I'll lay it out for you again one more time simply. You and other sisters either
>deliberarely tried to bury any evidence of him POTENTIALLY being a pedophile whilst in Niji to protect the company
>know it's complete bullshit and are now spreading it as punishment.
All this deflection about innocent until proven guilty is irrelevant to what you're doing in this thread. You're pushing this supposed scandal, so you want more people to hear about it now whereas before you didn't.

Again you look like disgusting human beings either way.

>>106314962
Like how Doki never had any proof

>>106316979
Retard. No one buried anything considering the plebbit posts have thousands of updoots. I'm just simply pointing out YOU saying Ike was a pedophile rapist then pretending like you didn't say that for the last two years

>>106316974
Anon, genuinely, do you have some kind of brain injury or disability?
Doki didn't claim anything.
It happened. Ike made mistakes. She forgave him.
It's really just that simple.

>>106316344
So are dragoons apparently. You both suck you should all die.

>>106317136
nijiseethe

>>106317132
Your reading comprehension is amazing. Go back to school buddy.

>>106317048
No you're trying to push it in multiple thread. You're not slick.
>YOU
Again not me, I hadn't even heard about this shit until sisters started talking about it after this stream. I only knew about the Vox allegations.

>>106317161
Good luck on your green card, anon.
You won't get it, but I figure I might as well wish you luck anyways.

>>106317186
The multiple plebbit posts and archived posts /here/ say otherwise, fagoon. Accept that you never gave a shit about pedophilia or rape and just wanted to attack a NijiEN member

>>106317444
Accept that you never gave a shit about potential pedophilia and rape and just wanted to defend NijiEN.

>>106316979
>Anon gets told a single thing
>Makes a whole-ass sperg post trying to make some point nobody asked for
You might want to seek professional help, anon.

>>106317553
>No U!
Doesn't work when proclaiming someone is innocent because the accusations aren't 100% proven, SEAfag. You claimed he is a rapist, you have to accept you never cared

>>106317631
>you
I know you're a third world schizophrenic but I'll repeat I didn't even know about this shit until you sisters started talking aboutnit again. And no, that's not how it works. You're the one who brought it up, you have to explain why you're so interested in it now but you weren't before.

>>106317729
I already have, retard
>Fagoons like you spread that Ike is a rapist for two years and call him sick
>Fagoons like you pretend like you didn't spread this and that he's perfectly innocent now because Doki collabed with him

>>106317977
I feel like I'm losing braincells trying to interact with you; it's like trying to communicate with a baboon.
>Fagoons like you spread
First, not a dragoon. Second: proof it was "fagoons" and not the thousands of other people attacking Niji at the time?
>pretend [...] he's perfectly innocent now
So again you're suggesting you think there's a possibility the allegations are true, so again you have to explain why sisters tried to bury it. Because I did look through the archives like you suggested earlier and what I can see is you people desperately claiming it's entirely fabricated, there's no truth to it at all. We're back to the issue of you nijisisters trying to hide allegations which you're now claiming MIGHT be true - not a good look for you or your fanbase.

>>106317977
Your logic falls apart in thinking that only Dragoons hate Niji. Sorry to burst your bubble but outside that bubble, Niji is universally hated.

>>106304948
>new gen broke the bingo line
I give it 3 months before it's back

Any details about how he was lied to? Like what specifically was he told? And who told him?

>>106318213
>Uhhh it wasn't fagoons. It was someone else. Don't look at those Twitter accounts or where those redditards post
kek
>SEAfag still can't comprehend innocent until proven guilty
kek

>>106318284
>I swear it wasn't us
yeah right

>>106315340
Why do you think the nigga vanished and never wants to stream again? If he didn’t do anything he could just come back and not have to worry about anything.

>>106319291
>still can't understand basic logical thoughts processes
>still bringing up innocent until proven guilty despite it being irrelevant to what's being discussed
>calling others SEAfags when almost the entirety of the NijiEN fanbase (and all sisters) are SEA and Pakistani

>>106307132
The normal ones do find it concerning. The ones that consider this admission a betrayal are fans of the company. They prefer if they're continued to be fed lies, because those lies protect the company.

>>106320035
>Don't look up where the people who spread the rape story post! Just trust me bro
lol
>Claims innocent until proven guilty is irrelevant when he was the one claiming guilty until proven innocent
lol
>Desperately pretending like the majority of fagoons aren't heavily ESL
Kek

>>106320129
>still hasn't provided proof it's "fagoons"
>still isn't understanding the argument and still thinks it's about innocent until proven guilty
>still avoiding the point all sisters are SEA or Pakistani
In particular I really love this pic from Nyfco, really encapsulates why so many of you defend Niji so much. You genuinely don't know what it's like to work in a country where you have rights, kek

>>106320276
>Still hasn't provided proof it was fagoons
I already told you to look at the reddit post. It'd be not hard to find

>Still doesn't understand saying someone is innocent because they haven't been proven guilty is the standard
lol

>He ashamed of his SEA status so he shames sun kissed Pakistani woman for being proud
Even bigger kek

>>106320353
>look at the reddit post
I'm not routing around in reddit of all fucking places to do your work for you. Either post proof they're fagoons or accept there is none.
>still not understanding innocent until proven guilty
I'll repeat it one last time. You claimed above there might be some proof to them, you say you don't know. Back then, according to the archives you sisters said it was completely made up, there was no truth to it. You weren't arguing innocent until proven guilty you were saying with certainty they were untrue. Now you've changed your mind. So again to any sane person (and I know it's difficult for you to think like a sane person) it looks like you're happy to protect a potential pedophile if they happen to be a liver
>sun kissed Pakistani woman
lmao, so you are actually a paki then? I've never heard thet phrase used before. Sorry but to the rest of the world SEA, Pakistan, India, you're all the same kind of shit.

>>106320482
>I'm not routing around in reddit
I accept your concession
>sisters said it was completely made up, there was no truth to it
Yes. That is how innocent until proven guilty works. They're untrue until it's proven to be true. Fagoons like you clearly did not agree and said he was a pedophile rapist

>Not denying being from SEA
Too easy

>>106302234
That is an absolutely horrible design.

>>106306602
Are you willing to go anywhere near aster without getting paid?

>>106320535
>no proof
Thanks for accepting there is none.
>That is how innocent until proven guilty works.
No thst isn't how innocent until proven guilty works you silly bitch, maybe it does in Pakistan but in civilised countries it means the person shouldn't be automatically considered guilty, not that the evidence in favour of them being guilty is immediately dismissed as lies and attempts are made to cover it up.
>Not denying being from SEA
Pakisis, I thought I made it clear when I said innthe rest of the world SEA, India, and Pakistan are all considered the same kind of shit. Thankfully I live in a country with actual workers rights, and a functioning education system which clearly based on your posts Pakistan doesn't have. When are you getting married off to some 60 year old man called Muhammed by the way?

This will all culminate in Mint singing sunbeams at a concert and inviting Elira (no Finana) onstage and it'll be KINO

>>106320724
>Tell him where the proof is
>I'm not looking
Seethe more
>not that the evidence in favour of them being guilty is immediately dismissed as lies
accusations that go unproven usually do get passed as lies though? Are you retarded or truly too SEA to understand ?

>The SEAfag is trying to claim he's from somewhere important
kek

>>106294250 (OP)
>reimu's dramafagging backfiring on her
kek

>>106320791
>still not providing proof
I accept your concession
>do get passed as lies though?
Look, I know that you have mass rape of women in your country and that the legal system is heavily biased against them, but your fundamental misunderstanding of the issue is still baffling. You tried to bury the allegations, not accept them as a potential situation, just bury them. That has nothing to do with innocent until proven guilty.
>somewhere important
Not important anymore, but certainly more important than Pakistan. We should have just fucking massacred you and the Indians, the world would be a marginally better place.

>>106320731
Fuck off /lazu/fag, this doesn't concern you

>>106320877
What is that image showing?

>>106320996
Just looked the post up, it's Marie (Reimu) following Sayu.
>>103066793

>>106321083
I guess Marie is trying to make a new clique, but I don't think Sayu talked to a lot of people when she was at the company so I don't think that's who she should be following.
Marie has even replied to Miki's Xitter posts, it's weird.

>>106321159
Marie is a shameless numberfag and will try to attach herself to anyone with big numbers

>>106320895
>You tried to bury them
Already explained how that's clearly not the case because of how popular the accusations are. Try harder

>SEAfag larping
LMAO

>>106321210
>not even trying at this point
I accept your concession, silly pakichan. Best of luck in your upcoming arranged marriage! Careful you don't get gang raped before the ceremony!

>>106310054
I meant more the people going "kys quilds" rather than the Ike/Selen ops... unfortunately those people don't seem to be raiders. Those threads were always kind of like that, or at least have been for a while.
If Ike/Xan isn't coming back in some new form I just hope enough quildfriends hang around the niji threads for a while...

>>106307284
Post the Discord leak.

>>106294250 (OP)
It was all a misunderstanding

>>106304948
I basically know nobody here from Krisis onwards, besides Twisty.
I hard dropped them after all that shit.

>>106296386
He's not gay. Only Swedish

>>106327081
https://youtu.be/XY9PmBNb3PE

>>106296386
i'm the good type of mentally ill i can fix him

>>106306836
>elira got the key to his chastity cage
Oh, god, that's so hot.

>>106296214
And then there's me who at the very minimum dislikes every single person on this list, if not outright hate

>>106327491
I'll get to him first and chain him to my bed with no internet access

>>106304948
>a new gen
The fuck? When did that happen?

>>106328029
no share him with me please....
>>106327679
dare i say, this but ike?

>>106304948
it's insane how Nijisanji EN has had the most graduations of any Corpo branch (outside of dead corpos) yet still have more than 50% of it's members remaining.

>>106331497
that's the power of acceleration

>>106304948
Flopsoleil still leading the race

>>106317729
Burden of proof is a western concept I guess

>>106321159
Unfortunately, Sayu's the ultimate doormat. You could kill her family, walk up to her with the bloody knife in your hand, say "Yeah my bad" and she'd forgive you like nothing happened.