Thread 106361428

>ruins gfe and undoes decades of traditional idol culture
Wow

>>106361428 (OP)
>undoes decades of traditional idol culture

What evidence do you have for this? There's still loads of popular vtubers doing trad idol stuff. Nimi is not the center of the fucking world.

>>106361472
It's called a slippery slope.

>>106361428 (OP)
How did she ruin it? I thought this board loved cuck shit? She still has a general so people still love her.

Idols getting married after retiring from the mainstream is pretty common.
Also
>the "we cannot be friends" woman
>GFE

>>106361428 (OP)
ban brown people from the internet

>>106361428 (OP)
Someone who was never an idol cannot ruin idol culture, nor do her actions have any effect on what all the JP girls do. She didn't even ruin holoEN, she only ruined herself.

>>106361428 (OP)
>undoes decades of traditional idol culture
Nimi Nightmare did not kill off idol culture but she did it clear that Hololive is mostly fake. The unicorn friendly side of Hololive is an illusion and even management doesn't really care about it since they are constantly encouraging HoloPro unity. Yagoo would add Holostars to Holofes if he thought it wouldn't cause too much backlash.

Anyone else fantasize about Nimi giggling as you secretly plow her behind her cuck husband's back?

>>106361508
People still love her. Exactly. Now other chuubas know they can cuck fans without any disapproval.
>>106361799
How can you have such a fantasy when quite literally the opposite is happening irl?

>>106361715
Why does he love them so much anyway?

>>106361799
I do. I bet it would be easy too. I am sure she's with some pansy vegan soiboi, a real man like me would rock her world.

>>106361428 (OP)
>Fauna debuts in hololive
>Do a background check
>Streams with a guy
>Has melties about parasocial fans on stream
Imagine falling for her GFE gimmick in holo? You would have to be a complete retard. But holo fans have this "clean slate" cope where they feel better about being complete cucks.

>>106361428 (OP)
I appreciate the psychic power she has over mentally ill men she doesn't even know exist

>>106362509
The same reason Star Wars and Marvel drove themselves into the ground, misguided attempts to appeal to the female fanbase. They don't see how locked in and dedicated their existing fanbase is, all they can see is the """untapped potential""" of the female demographic. Yagoo is a money-grubbing kike just like every other CEO on this planet, funny little hat or not.

>>106361428 (OP)
This cow was never GFE, she couldn't even stay masked up long enough to graduate without having a meltdown over fans seeking minor companionship between a vtuber and fan.

>>106363012
They also completely believed Shiori was unicorn friendly. I think most of the fanbase is just young and gullible.

>>106363012
You are not supposed to search about her PL.

>>106361428 (OP)
The west never understood idol culture to begin with, they just made a caricature of it in their heads.

>>106361715
everyone knew this since rushia, keep up

>>106361428 (OP)
>>ruins gfe and undoes decades of traditional idol culture
vtubing hasn't been around for decades.

>>106364233
and delusional, like that samefag who had a melty in yesterday's Shiori thread

>>106364800
And why the fuck not? If it prevents shit like this from happening, I say PL is fair game.

>>106361428 (OP)
Nobody cares about her anymore. It’s over. Back to CGDCT

>>106361428 (OP)
>>ruins gfe
This is based. ASMR is only for gooning. GFE fags get cucked like they deserve.

>>106361428 (OP)
> ruins GFE
how the 'I'm not your friend' whore was ever considered GFE in the first place?

>>106366155
She was the most unicorn friendly Homo + ASMR

>>106366406
and that means GFE? I'm lost

>>106366406
>ASMR
Mentally broken retards.

Orc'd

>>106366555
Not vegan, not her type, gay

BIRTH
BIRTH
BIRTH

She's perfect, I know.

>>106366605
Why do single men who fap to hentai & asmr and do "my wife" shitposting pretend they wouldn't marry their oshi?
>erm.. I don't-
Yes. You. Fucking. Do. That's why you're on here buddy.

Evolution punishes you with negative emotions when you see another man get the woman you want.

cukshit broke this website.

>>106364233
Well the thing is, we thought she changed. She fucking HID it all for two fucking years.
Turns out women don't change.
They just lose the mask.

Watching GFE, or deluding yourself into seeing your oshi as GFE, inevitably leads to this level of mindbreak.

>>106361428 (OP)
i only wish she'd done that, because vtubing would be better for it. sadly, the imagined offense of a handful of vocal unicorns does not an industry make, and idol culture is, tragically, unphased.

>>106367353
We unicorns built this hobby with our blood sweat and tears. It's because of us you have your oshi today. We cultivated the culture. Be thankful.

>>106364800
If you're in 4chin it's unavoidable
Like, retards. Actual retards. Only actual retards fall in love with Fauna. Day 1 dox with boyfriend, calling out audience for being emotionally attached, literally everything pointed to her being far from virginal maiden as possible.
Yet somehow, parasocial niggers are mad. Worse yet, trolls think this is somehow a valid criticism against her. Same with Shiori desu.
Like, it's odd that the honest one somehow are called the most guilty. This is a mad world.
By the way, pic related is apparently Unicorn icon. You know, the actually married wife? Unicorns are legit deranged.

>>106367592
lel

How do you not feel cucked as the husband when your wife's job is to flirt with men online?

>>106367891
She doesn't flirt with men online. She plays video games, talks and sings (poorly).

>>106367891
Do you think he jerks off the the ASMR videos imagining hes getting cucked?

>>106367891
As long as she didn't fuck any of them, or even build serious emotional ties with one/few of them. And I would try my best to provide a good, comfortable and emotionally healthy environment for her to enjoy offline.
Like, if she still cheat after that, not my loss. If she didn't, it's my win.
The mindset of a Vtuber hubby isn't hard to comprehend if you're not emotionally stunted.

>>106367891
They have to be into it. Would you marry a prostitute? (Who still works in that industry)

>>106367294
That's your fault, not hers. She didn't 'HIDE" anything, you just deluded yourself

>>106367294
Changed how? This is biggest cope on this board, the seething will be great when Gigi or raora do something similar

>>106367121
>>106367121
>Evolution punishes you
You punish yourself by appealing to the base animalistic emotions of your post-Edenic apeskin. Humans are spiritual beings that can overcome their corporeal instincts and aspire to a higher ideal, such as appreciating one's oshi for their content and character and providing a lamplight of relief for legions of forlorn souls in this earthly prison rather than labouring under carnal delusions of matrimony upon this fleeting temporal plane.

>Ruins decades of idol
I can 99% guarantee you that OP cannot mention, from memory, a single Idol thread from the jay.
Literally almost everyone that screeches about that shit has never watched any actual idols and if they did they'd have childish little mental breakdowns at the sight of seeing idols interact with the opposite sex ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

>>106367891
Hard to feel cucked when you're litterally mating pressing and prone boning and squirting your cum in her womb every night. I mean, those men can't even interact with her. She might as well be flirting with a brick wall. One that coughs out money (lol)

>>106367592
this self-awareness is refreshing. i like you, anon. if i was a gay nigger from outer space or a girl, i'd suck you off

>>106367891
I imagine a ton of arguments happening every time a seasonal voice pack is released

>>106368077
>fauna and vesper

God I hope these rrat is true. The melties would be legendary

>>106367294
>we thought she changed
>we thought
And this validate shitting on her how?

>>106368141
Based take. But weird to hear it from a dragoon.

>>106368152
NTR nigger post.

>>106368152
We make her laugh though, that's not nothing.

>>106367294
>we
do you always address yourself in plural form or are you part of a hivemind?

>>106368152
So if you were cumming inside your gf everynight you'd be ok with her going out and hanging out with a bunch of boys everynight?

>>106368275
I meant there ought to be many Dragoons who want to fuck Doki but I'm certain far fewer of them would want to be her boyfriend or husband.
I don't know what kind of magic she had. Some other females probably wanted it too.

>>106368428
On my watch? Yes. You act like stream is a private affair. This argument is so stupid.

>>106368428
She's extremely cold towards naplings though, she can barely hide her disgust towards them.

>>106368539
kek

>>106363012
Holofags are the most delusional retards on the board

>>106368349
>a husband fucks his wife and nuts inside
>"n-ntr fantasy!!"
How? It's her literal actual husband. You'd be nutting inside too.
>>106368428
Except she's just sitting there at her computer playing some shitty game. You don't even get to see her like before vtubing was a thing. Let me put it this way... your oshi? Doesn't even see you as a man. You might as well be two women gossiping over tea.

>>106369559
wait are you her husband and thats why you are so mad about this?

>>106361428 (OP)
post your micropenis saar

>>106369603
I don't think they're mad, they're just trying to point out that your comparison is utter shit.

The vtuber-audience relationship is more akin to a comedian at a comedy club than it is hanging out with friends who are dudes -it is going out to perform, not going out to socialize.

>>106370962
The comparison is spot on. I think you're in denial Anon.

>>106364800
Only a retard wouldn't check the product for defects before buying

>>106361428 (OP)
Unless Saba and maybe Filian do a lore drop at the same time, Nimi doesn't mean shit for the EN side of Vtubing.

>a>106367294
Thats fine tho, she is selling a fantasy. I mean she wasn't particularly good at it but it was a fantasy. Dont tell you actually think she was in love with you nigga.

>>106365359
>he thinks vtubers started idol culture

>>106367611
Look me straight in the face and tell me AZKi didn’t deliberately cultivate that image for herself. Do it.

>>106373368
>he thinks vtubers have idol culture

>>106373525
Yes?

>>106371854
Ok, I'll give you this: maybe for you the vtuber interaction is socializing. Maybe you think you're one of the boys she hangs out with when she streams. But do you really think that's a two-way street, that she sees it that way?

>>106373850
this is a perfect question to ask the delusional because the answer is obviously "no" at the best of times, but it's explicitly "no" with this person specifically, so even if someone lies to themselves about the industry at large, they can't lie to themselves about the words that came right out of her mouth.

>>106361428 (OP)
>ruins gfe and undoes decades of traditional idol culture
GOOD!

>>106361527
She has not retired.

>>106375586
What? Of course she did.
Fauna, the idol, graduated and will never return.

Bao warned us about male vtubers
Why didn't you listen?

Always Punished...

>>106375314
Fuck off, Rider

>>106375586
No, but she graduated. Most idols that graduate don't just disappear, they continue to work in entertainment, and often continue to do idol and idol adjacent things, even after they're married and have children.

>>106363649
>>106362509
Failed statistical MBA knowledge- "women are 70% of spending". So company thinks they're only getting 30% of what they could get and men are seen as expendable because of boomer brainrot over simping for women. Business is not capable of understanding that spending is divided by interest/gender and women are not interested in what men are interested in. Company sudokus its growth by chasing men away.

Maybe putting it another way- men are very reluctant to be retarded with money the way women are, but those companies who can get their attention have them on lock. These companies then make the mistake of assuming they can also get the women on lock, and ruin things.

>>106379543
So she wasn't ours? It was just our turn?

>>106361428 (OP)
>decades of traditional idol culture
Vtubers aren't actual idols and when /vt/ says they want idols they just mean they want a girl who pretends to be their girlfriend

>>106368121
Gigi's gasslighting her fans by telling them she is asexual is such a fucking sad attempt, but it worked....

yeah fauna is a lying bitch who just used us for money, tragic but time to move on

>>106380286
This is the saddest sounding but most accurate take, yeah.
At some point you either have to move on or accept her without that factor

There's also a third option where you just revisit and enjoy the old content like it's an anime or something I guess

>>106367611
People (reasonable) are only mad when she dropped the kayfabe.

>>106380286
Idols are like pets. When you pick one, you do so with the understanding that there's an expiration date, and it will be sad. The ephemeral nature of idols is part of the beauty.

>>106361931
Sorry guys! You can only have fantasies of realistic scenarios!

>>106382792
Have some self respect.

>>106382869
no, we're in catalog

>>106361428 (OP)
Not collabing with a male means you're "GFE"?
>>106367891
Doing a stream is "flirt"

Now wonder all you idiots need virtual women, you have lower than room temperature IQs and don't know the meaning of words, go back to school.

>>106367611
> pic related is apparently Unicorn icon. You know, the actually married wife? Unicorns are legit deranged.
Your issue is that you call everything under the sun a "unicorn".
I dont know where did the definition of it change, but I suspect it was after the influx of EN fans into vtubing.
Unicorn = someone that wants his oshi to be pure = no sex = virgin
Azki fans cant be unicorns. She can have gachikoi fans that are willing to ignore her real life situation as long as she doesnt bring up anything on stream.
No real unicorn would ever support her. Stop throwing buzzwords around like complete imbeciles and learn what those terms actually mean.

>>106367891
They are basically playing a role that their vtuber characters are not their real selves. Same with movies/tv show stars, same with theatre people, and same with any job that relies on light flirting to bait out those big tips.

>>106361428 (OP)
based

>>106361428 (OP)
>Goes from 150k VOD views to 50k
Wow

>>106384670
>No real unicorn would ever support her.
Ah yes, the no true scotsman

>>106384800
>Be a sister
>Hear about the word unicorn
>Use it as a buzzword so much that it loses all meaning
>Tell them what a true unicorn is
>They start doing mental gymnastics to explain their retardation like referencing the "no true scotsman"
So you really are a bunch of buzzword throwing idiots. Amazing.

>>106385110
It really doesn't matter what archaic definition you believe "unicorn" to mean, anon.
The term has shifted heavily to refer to retards who harass women the instant they talk with a dude.

>>106385156
>Archair
>Literally less than 6 years
LMAO kill yourself you buzzword throwing imbecile. You are the type that just picks up something from social media and keeps repeating it without even knowing what it means. NPC living must be great.

>>106385228
lol grandpa's mad he can't keep up with what the kids are saying.
If you're the only one using a word in a specific way, then it's not really useful as a communication tool, is it?

>gfe
You deserve the suffering for being a retarded window licking loser

>Its been months and (you) are still seething.
Can we go for the record here?

>>106385258
Idol and otaku community in general still uses unicorn properly. Its only 15 year old social media EOP drones that turned that term into something completely different.
Face it, you are a mindless buzzword throwing drone and you're somehow proud of it.

>>106385412
uh oh ken-sama's angy now
The term changed and no amount of impotent bitching will bring it back.
Words only have power as long as they can transmit information.
If your word isn't conveying what you want it to while everyone else sees it another way, then that's your problem.

>>106361428 (OP)
>idol culture
never existed in the west. placing westoids into idol culture is like putting lipstick on a pig. it's just cosplaying for them, they don't have the mindset necessary to become an idol no matter how cute their voice is or how "seiso" they act. western culture is corrupted degenerate trash, and so are the people it produces

>>106385462
Good NPC drone. Just let 15 year old twitter sisters dictate what words mean.

>>106385532
Wow, you know you're using NPC wrong, right?
This isn't a video game. Why are you trying to use words improperly, anon?

>>106385462
>The term changed and no amount of impotent bitching will bring it back.
this

>>106385559
not even part of this retarded exchange but this is a gigareddit-tier response. do better, anon

I'm so glad ASMR does nothing for me. It breaks people's brains.

>>106385608
80% of this board is redditor trannies that swarmed this place to "fight le unicorns" no wonder xhe is obsessed with defending that definition so much. Without it, xhe loses its life purpose.

>>106385608
I'll keep it in mind.

>>106385651
The only way I have gotten the tingles is Choco's sloppy breathing in my ear and Fauna was my oshi

>>106385651
the audience it brings in is so creepy. i know when a chuuba introduces asmr, they either use it twice and it goes under the bed forevermore and you're safe, or the vtuber's content is about to shift away from watchable. so now 3rd asmr stream = bounce. hasn't been wrong so far.

>>106361428 (OP)
all Nimi did was make me want to commit adultery more and fuck a married woman

she was never an idol she just was shit at trying to do the GFE schtick anyways.

>>106385887
>or the vtuber's content is about to shift away from watchable
This take is retarded because ASMR crowd is usually completely separate from your regular stream crowd. Most of ASMR fags are coomers so they only bounce between a handful of ASMR streamers/vtubers.
Also I dont like how ASMR is now associated with coomers because when I used to watch/listen ASMR 10 years ago, the contents of it was rarely sexual or even remotely GFE-ish. It was stuff like "Driving school ASMR, doctors check up ASMR" and stuff like that. Now its the same 5-6 triggers over and over again across THOUSANDS of streamers. "Brushing tapping oil massage..." its like wow...you hear one ASMR you heard them all.

>>106361428 (OP)
that's not actually what idol culture is.

>>106386063
>ASMR crowd is usually completely separate from your regular stream crowd.
False and tells me you are not well informed on vtubers.
>Also I dont like how ASMR is now associated with coomers
I don't and didn't; we happen to agree on that. Fauna is a great example of how you do it without baiting coomers at all (and why people who think she's GFE are retarded). What I said was "creepy" and that wasn't used as a synonym for "coomer." I stand by the label.

>>106361428 (OP)
>ruins GFE by never doing GFE
?