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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

why would anyone watch nerissa or kiara

>>106522625
Because she loves numbers

So who's more unicorn friendly, Biboo or FWMC?

saba just .. wins?

>>106524111
They are equal in ignoring homos

Does anyone else find the state of other vtuber companies in EN kind of hilarious?
You have had Phase, Vshojo (now dead), Niji EN and by and large most of the indies all seething endlessly at Holo all while having drama after drama, getting exposed as black companies and just being retarded in general. Meanwhile, you have the fucking OG vtuber black company groups owned by Brave of all companies mostly just sitting there peacefully. If you just gave me a brief history on each company they'd be one of the ones I'd pin as MOST likely to have all that other shit going on, but they just kind of exist. Fuck is up with that?

>>106524164
They're not popular enough for EOP to know

Hololive could have taken gold with a raid but they jobbed to saba.

>>106522625
No one else plays Gwent

>>106524164
All the shitters are so obsessed with hololive that they trample over each other to reach a speck of their relevance

>>106524200
you already spammed about this in the last thread it's time to move on

Liggers worshipping saba are like the Hulk Hogan fanboys who pretend he was better in NJPW

>>106524111
FWMC because they stream on twitch less

do you think the game will be good anons? all i see is text
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW5m_FyfB0Y

Biboo's praise kink coming out again

So Nimi doesn't have any problem traveling to Japan to record. Then wtf were her problems with management? She does the same content. Did she really quit because they refused to give her a bigger cut? Was she bullied out of the company by a clique?

>>106524323
well... Mr. Nightmare for one.

>>106524164
Technically, idol EN had some drama but by the time they were bought by Brave, they were practically completely irrelevant

>>106524323
everyone other than mumei quit because of money

>>106524323
HoloEN members aren't allowed to date people

>>106524343
Mr. Nightmare what? She can date him and marry him while in the company.

>>106524323
The problem with management was their 50% cut, they think that's too high even though they would have 5% of that if they never joined Hololive.

don't mind me, i'm just going through the archives

>>106524111
>if you know
neither

>>106524422
She's a millionaire. Why is she so greedy?

>>106524418
Something tells me that Nimi originally planned to involve said Mr. Nightmare on-stream but walked it back due to the backlash.

>>106524433
some people really made edits like picrel

>>106524323
SNO decided to dip at the same time, and since Ame already left that meant the 4 only good Hololive members would be leaving

>already nimi seethe for some reason
What the fuck are you faggots going to do with her on break

>>106524433
That "essay is mostly lies. Also Ayin is one of the schizos that continues to shit up this thread. Calling him reasonable is a good sign that is total garbage.
She didn't defend them because nobody attacked them. That's not at all what happened. And she didn't do the collabs to own the haters, she did them because the anti-star faction was not honest and could never properly explain to her why they didn't want the collabs, with the exception of 2 or 3 unicorns that admitted they felt sexual jealousy. This led her to belive it wasn't a big deal.
Also, neither Vesper nor Magni are sexpests, whatever their faults may be.

can anyone tell me what is happening in nijisanji?

https://x.com/kuounin/status/1987465272211697732?s=20

>take the holo pill
>have to watch Cover waste money on holo announcers shilling homos, holoearth shilling homos, HLZNTL shilling homos
>take the indie pill
>indies like saba, dooby and Mint will never EVER collab with a homo or talk to one

>Mr. Nightmare was Nimi's version of Gou Strider.
>He was just supposed to be an obstacle for the naplings to beat. Like what Gou Strider was for the deadbeats
This is the rrat of rrats.

>Biboo inclining for 3+ hours
of course lmao

>>106524568
>mint

>>106524516
Is she going on break, actually?

Got a Saba stream and a Biboo stream. Only thing missing is Gigi. What day is she coming back again? i know she said it but I forgot.

>>106524568
>Mint will never EVER collab with a homo or talk to one

>>106524606
Yes. She's leaving videos but she's taking a work break to do whatever she has to do for her Anniversary project (likely recording 3D live).

>>106524482
did someone know who was the fag seething spamming picrel text?

>106524582
>the brazilian cuckling is mad

>>106524568
Your money is going to buy diapers instead. Such improvement

>>106524620
>3D live
lol

>>106524638
>botted to hit 10k
pebbles got angry lol

>>106524568
The indie pill btw

>>106524671
Post the graph

>>106524450
t. brown tranny

What's the point of botting if you still lose by 6000

>>106524671
Retard

>>106524674
You pick the indies you follow and you can feel safe knowing not a single cent of the money you give to Saba is going to men. Meanwhile every view of a holo's video is generating money that Cover is spending on homos.

>>106524568
>Mint will never EVER collab with a homo or talk to one
Just ask if you want the Mint Homocollab

>>106524515
lol

>>106524582
Where's the nonstop incline cuckling

>>106524633
found it, no more archive diving

JIM GORDAN LOVE
... UNLESS?

>>106524563
A company collabed with niji, got niji fans to buy their stuff, then suddenly collabed with holo which is a massive betrayal and niji fans are mad now.

>>106524671
Why do you want Biboo to compete with Saba so much?

>>106524633
My guess is that it is one of the bbc loving and yuri hating dudes who always show up to give ammunition to the homosisters

>Saba is totally an indie!
And Mr. America isn't Hulk Hogan.

>>106524753
kek seethe more and make this a yab.

>>106524614
I forgot why she's on a force break.

>>106524792
It's already a yab, Nijifans are revolting against the sponsor for betraying their trust and giving sponsor money to the enemy.

>>106524755
i'm not the pebble botting her so that a holoen member can finally hit 10k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw-ixoTXKq4

/#/'s favorite chuuba
you will watch a romance anime with her, right?

>>106524852
Post the graph

>>106524753
oh, the collab miko will do?

I will literally never support Mori, Kronii, or Shiori in any way shape or form ever. I will always think of them as lesser, I will always hate them, and I will always avoid content that includes them in any way, shape, or form. The reason is simple. They are anathema to Hololive and the values of cute girls doing cute things. They have shown through their words and actions that they are not the right fit for Hololive and that they don't belong there. Moreover they have shown that instead of trying to fit in, they would rather take radical measures to try and change Hololive. Hololive should not have to suffer people who are just there to cynically funnel attention to their roommates, lazy ironic weebs, or spiteful bitches.

>Y-You should forgive her!
No.

>S-She's changed, she's better now
No she hasn't and even if she has, I don't care, she will never be forgiven for her past sins.

>Y-Your information is months/years out of date
Possibly, because that's when I stopped watching them. As I said, I'm not going to forgive them.

>Don't you believe in second chances?
All these girls got multiple chances and at every opportunity, they fucked it up. They showed they would rather "own the haters" or rather get up on a soapbox and dispense their stupid uninformed opinions to the legions of people who support them. What a lot of people fail to recognize is that Hololive IS a second chance. These girls failed at being fucking waitresses. They couldn't even do a basic service job. Just by being in Hololive, they are given a wonderful opportunity to make the kind of money 99% of the world will never see and they should be grateful because none of them could hack it in the real world. But instead of being grateful, they got full of themselves and decided to try the "my way or the highway" approach.

>Y-You're just a schizo anti!
Actually I'm being hyper rational. I gave all these girls chances and they all chose to make bad decisions. I do not harass them on Twitter, I don't stalk them, I don't even leave negative comments on their videos. I just simply do not watch them, I do not buy their merch, and I tell everyone on this discussion forum that I do not like them and that others should not watch them either. I inform people who are new, who may not know why they are hated, of the things these girls did in the past and why people have a sour view of them now. Obviously I cannot make other people stop supporting them, everyone is free to do what they want. But I will warn others of the type of shit they've pulled in the past and consequently the type of person they've shown themselves to be.

>TLDR
These girls are not worth your time or money. There are plenty of other girls who are.

>>106524866
Something something, evil spirit.

>>106524866
That movie is beyond mid.

>>106524792
>>106524828
>nijiniggers seethe at company that does collab with Holo after niji
>company sees how virulent nijishitskins are
>decides to cut off all ties with anycolor but keep doing Holo collabs

>>106524887
TLDR; I'm the vtuber fandom's equivalent to a vegan.

>>106524887
Macaco.

>>106524753
>too disrespectful to the company
Never beating the "oshiing the company" allegations

>>106524887
this was based the first time it was posted
anyone copy pasting this is just looking for (You)s

>>106524620
Fauna never did a 3D live while in Hololive, do real naplings actually think she's doing a 3D live? Then why didn't she do one in Hololive? Back when I asked, I was told she had no interest in doing them.

why are you niggas shitting on Kronii all of a sudden?

>>106524560
Begone homobeggar

>>106524866
Konkoyo!!

>>106524744
one last pic
>>106524967
no shit, everytime they spam holodrone is just projecting

>>106524896
The soundtrack let's it punch above its weight

>>106524990
why didn't you complain when they were shitting on nimi

>>106524887
You forgot Bae, Ina, and ERB as well

Biboo please... I'm 5'11...

>>106524990
She's a traitor

>>106524819
visiting irl friends and then visiting another NA holo (probably kronii?)

>Hurricane does damage to the Innocent Provinces
>Not to the seething monkeys in the capital

God has a bad sense of humor.

>>106524866
She always looks so sad
Maybe I should give her one more chance

>>106524887
t.monkeyfromfavella

>>106525025
you could have tried to keep the mask on for a little bit longer y'know

>Biboo shitting manlets under 6 foot.
Flipbros, our response?

>>106524990
i'm just compilating pics so when i feel like laughing at anons i can just go here and search same, i saw a lot of posts from aliaga crying like a cuck

>>106524989
>Fauna never did a 3D live while in Hololive, do real naplings actually think she's doing a 3D live?
What could she possibly be making a big deal out of dancing lessons for if not for a 3D live? Last time she mentioned dance lessons before this was when she was doing practice for Virtual Vacation, by the way.
> Then why didn't she do one in Hololive?
She was burnt out with how shit organizing her 3D Debut went (with her barely getting help for it and having to fight back through language barrier bullshit to even keep it 1 hour long) and by the time she would've done one for her 3rd Anni she was already out the door.

>biboo probably thinks the average person watching her is 185cm
someone want to tell her?

>>106524989
3D lives in hololive are all the same boring anime OPs and miku songs done over and over again. Now she can do whatever songs she wants, same reason why Virtual Vacation mogged Holofes and All for One.

>>106525123
I wish Vocaloid were as common as you think it is.

https://x.com/mashix2mmd/status/1987517679771730176
https://x.com/mashix2mmd/status/1987517679771730176
Ina is still the sex symbol of EN.

>>106525123
>Boring Anime OPs
>complaining about this while being part of a predominantly weeb hobby.
Wow, didn't actually wait to go mask-off. I guess Naplings really are Anime tourists.

Risu's account just got terminated.

Wait robin's dead in this?

Is Nimi actually going to Japan or am I being meme'd?

>>106525151
>flat
>sexy
retard

>>106525204
She never specified, so you're being memed.

>>106525189
ISREAL

This is exactly how I imagine Bane sounding

>>106525087
who is your favorite phasegirl? mine is Nyabiss

>>106525123
>Trying to ragebait against Nimi
>Will likely samefag when no one bites
Pathetic

>>106522474 (OP)
sex

>>106525177
why is her vaginal squirt so white and thick?

>>106525204
Doubt it. She's probably going to the LA-based studio that was used to record Virtual Vacation

>>106525227
Shiina
I like her design

>>106525189
Oh wow it's real.

>>106525189
wtf isreal, poor treerrat

>>106525123
nobody's posting virtual vacation webms here lil pup, ain't nobody watched that shit

>>106525189
>>106525263
uh oh
loli crackdown?

>>106525312
>Risu
>Loli
Are you fucking retarded

>>106525312
Some anti likely reported the Crypto stream as fraud.

>>106525189
lol wtf, its real.

>This channel was removed because it violated our Community Guidelines.

>>106525263
it'll be back in a day or so

Looks like Cover doesn't have a special agreement with Youtube

>>106525049
Ah, the flip seethe now makes sense. Fucking southerners.

>>106525227
literally? no one, design? the tiger girl i guess

>>106525340
Sex with this Biboo

>>106525246
its mayonnaise retard

>>106524563
comments under this post are so fucking hilarious
>oh they are just so so confused
the fuck are they confused about? fucking lmaooo

>>106525334
>>106525346
Youtube's AI bots likely tagged it as such.

>>106525263
>>106525189
One less homocollaber

>>106525099
She's still taking breaks (and potentially travelling) to record this so I don't really see a difference unless it's literally just the dealing with a manager + language bit.

>>106525326
anyone small and petite enough can be considered a loli according to some westoids apparently

>>106525189
Poor risu

>>106525387
She also technically doesn't have to deal with perms shit that nearly fucked her 3D debut to begin with but yeah. Probably mostly language barrier bullshit stressed her out so much she didn't want to deal with it again so soon.

>>106525312
anon?

Time for yab holokeks

>>106524866
she should watch gurren lagann instead of this dogshit

>>106524887
i can smell this post

>>106524753
>The heroes of children getting a collab with an app for women and little girls makes them seethe
https://special.pokecolotwin.jp/hololive/

>>106525283
nothing from All for One gets posted lol holofes only had Gura's clannad performance cause it hinted at her graduation

Some idiot is gonna claim STEALTH TERMINATION and it's gonna be funny.


But I think these pdfs might be antis getting a hold of the hacker groups and using the exploit to do >>106525334

>risu can get her account terminated for this
That means that Holos can get banned for excessive botting if they get caught. But the fact that they haven't yet means that Youtube is the one doing the botting to pump up the numbers to compete with Twitch

>>106525387
Japan is not vegan friendly and she didn't trust to leave Mr. Nightmare unattended.

>>106525189
>>106525263
This is just the beginning

>>106525457
wrong x2
one because you're incorrect, the other because you're brown

>>106525464
>>106525488
Kek

>>106524164
Anon they literally had one talent say they demanded she apologise for having lore of being a gangster, another leave like 2 weeks ago quite publicly in bad blood, multiple terminations and graduations all of them bad and bitter except Biscotti

>>106525189
>>106525263
No wonder cover wants to move to twitch when jewtube is this shady.

>>106525263
>>106525189
YTbros wasn't our platform the best

>>106525480
We already had this conversation when Biboo confirmed that youtube was aware and it wouldn't hurt her, this also sent the ennashizo into a spergout that lasted for days

>>106525189
>stops doing No Nut November
>dies
also yes I know Cover forced her to stop. so it's their fault..

>>106525488
kek retard

>>106525540
and what exactly is youtube not aware of in risu's case?

>>106525444
didn't laplus do a collab with this already? or it was another game?

is this anons first time where a holo's account got deleted? jesus christ how many newfags are in here

Can a /biz/anon give me the play on nutcoin? Do I sell or buy?

>>106525574
Probably mass reports, do you think she will stay banned?

>>106525480
It's almost impossible to prove who bought bots when a channel gets botted. If Youtube punished channels for bots everyone would just bot their competitors to get them banned.

>>106525372
Any sane person who wasn't confused would obviously see the righteousness of Nijifans crying over a company collabing with both Niji and Holo, they were betrayed.

>>106525587
I came here with Justice

>>106525594
eat

>>106525594
you hold during november

>>106525597
probably not but it's youtube so who knows

>>106525610
Do Justicebabbies actually exist? I thought they were just a meme.

>>106525587
I remember the time Kiara's channel getting pruned, and get it back later, she even did a redebut stream.
I remember that was after her move from Japan to Austria.

>>106525677
That shit killed her channel for a long while arguably still goes on today

>>106525597
Yes and many more to be gone soon

qrd on the yab?

>>106525677
Wasn’t that whole debacle Nene’s fault?

>>106525676
Every new gen brings new people. I came here with Advent, for example.

>4 hours
>no viewership decay
>likes far below 1:1 ratio when ENs got them in 3 hours
Yeah...

>>106525735
King took down risu channel

>>106525744
nta i came here with EN5, but turn out EN5 is on phase and i stayed just to shitpost holokeks

>>106525759
Nigger is really upset Biboo got 10k today huh

>>106525744
Uhhh, based.

>>106525759
>redacted #305 graph because it wasn't botted when it was around 8k
>Suddenly thinks it's botted now that it's 10k
Most obvious faggot

>>106525759
Hololive is always natty you utter baboon

Wait biboo will finish the game by today if she keeps playing

The retard really be liked
Big numbers = botted

Reminder: You have five days to consider signing up for Lord of the Board and wrestle the rest of /vt/
>Why are you telling us this?
Well you see my dear numbers focused friend, the previous tournament saw you rejected because your manager couldn't tell the time and failed to confirm the /#/ entry within a 24 hour time window. So we're being nice and giving you a heads up to maximise all those calculations required to get a rep in!

Full details can be found in the thread: >>106178956

>>106525759
I don't know which part of this graph you don't like. It all looks fine to me

I think they bot biboo the most because it makes it look like less of a huge loss when gura left

>>106525739
Nene's thing is way earlier, nothing to do with Kiara's channel.

>>106525888
the fuck is this cringe shit? spam bots?

>>106525871
She's not even halfway through it, so I don't see it getting beaten in one stream

>>106525785
>>106525822
This is FWMC's graph, which is a more engaging stream, decay started after 90minutes, and 1:1 likes were achieved in 3 hours

>>106525861
Yes, all natty, except Bijou, Mori, and IRyS

>>106525888
Do we even have a manager anymore? We even lost our /vtl/ team because no one stepped up after our previous manager retired

>>106525580
different game

>>106525927
>Yes, all natty, except Bijou, Mori, and IRyS
No, they're natty too, faggot

>>106525919
my memory bad. I forgot there are 10 chapters left

>>106525884
I'm kinda disappointed, there was a time the Bibot schizo was very accurate on actual botted Biboo stream. But now he's just posting whatever and call it botted, what a downgrade.

>>106525927
>decay started after 90minutes
Gee, I wonder who started streaming 90 minutes into FWMC's stream

>>106525784
The only new phase that could have possibly been in EN5 was Lua, the rest had zero chance.

>>106525897
If she collabs with Nimi again, it's over. I wouldn't be so cocky and would think up ways to distance her from Nimi instead.

>>106525936
Given your former manager attempted to enter after the sign-up date, we have evidence that SOMEONE is trying to revive you guys and why we're nudging you now so he doesn't fuck up again

>>106525927
>which is a more engaging stream
Ollie and Raora are not engaging
>decay started after 90minutes
Proof people didn't like it enough to stay as long as most EN streams incline
>and 1:1 likes were achieved in 3 hours
Due to extremely high churn
>Yes, all natty, except Bijou, Mori, and IRyS
Proof?

Which way holokeks
Also this shit is wrong. There is no way indians play LnD. They are more of arknights fags

>tries to spread rrats that holoEN can't get 10k anymore
>Biboo decides to prove them wrong with a 10k stream just for the lols
It's that easy

>>106525984
I don't consume gacha.

everyone shock risu channel gone, like they never know azki experience that twice

>>106524753
i see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ZzLHestDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Ls_-Lpsrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfvegBolUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oog0ZfT8Xks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wISaXcDaNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsFGInrjgPE

>>106525984
>USA: Nikke
>Japan: Blue Archive
based but I just like the porn

>>106525951
>very accurate
the nijinigger has always posted inaccurate shit just go look in the archives

>>106526016
AZKi was during the time when her channel turn into the artist channel no?

>>106525973
Even Nimi, who’s a much better streamer than Bijou, will start to decay after 2 hours

>>106525984
well holo did have a nikke collab but they fumbled it by handing it off to ID

>>106525984
people still play arknights?

>>106525984
wtf is limbus company?

>>106526078
ID didn't get it either, it was cancelled

>>106525999
HoloEN's been getting 10k's without raids/bots even during peak avengers shitposting faggotry, they've always been wrong.

/#/s should be moved to /trash/

>>106526104
Wasn't this an actual story?

>>106525984
>chinese
>korean
>korean
>korean
>chinese
not even japan is playing a japanese game..

Why do Holoantis have scat videos saved on their devices, ready for (literal) shitposting?

I got stuck at this level cause the anti-piracy kicked in and i can’t glide anymore, kek

>biboo can't beat saba
even kiara can...

>>106526120
Agree also kill all browns

Thoughts?

>>106526143
They love shit remind them of their skin

>>106524713
the irony of this post

>>106526159
>Oh wait, she actually got 10k legit.
>I NEED TO PIVOT THE SHITPOSTING

>>106526127
its how rock scientists do it before

>>106526076
nigger are you fucking serious

>>106526081
I've been playing it since launch and it's probably one of the only gachas I play that isn't dying

cover's cut is 50% so biboo needs twice nimi's or saba's numbers to actually win

>>106526076
>>106526189
Uh oh now what, retard?

>>106526189
That's engined, look at the likes

>>106526141
they should make good games first

>>106526173
needs far larger tits and thicker thighs, can tell those are pencil legs

>>106526217
Just like every nimi stream we know.

>>106526112
oh that shit is so good. Great story

>>106526112
makers of lobotomy corp and ruina
korean

>>106526112
literally peak

>>106526217
>That's engined, look at the likes

>>106526189
Napcuck status?

>>106525759
>literally a normal graph
>makes up some dumb bullshit
are you retarded?

Generix has to be a multi person account right? This guy just dropped 50 mem gift and 100$

>>106526173
Can someone give me the code for a JAV with this outfit?

>>106526282
Or some rich guy

>>106526282
pebbles are like their wallets, fat

>>106526283
PC-54 say less anon

>>106525189
She got crypto hacked, it'll be fixed once Cover contacts them and explains or whatever

>>106525189
Risu the ID girl?

>>106526228
Me when I lie

>>106526266
That's 2 hours, retard

>>106526273
Abnormal

>>106526273
yes look at his filename

What's the logic behind "bots can't press the like button"?

Biboo graph look normal

So there is this incredible game called Planetary Annihilation. One of the coolest games ever where you can smash planets into each other.
Some community devs took the source code and created an open-source game they're calling Beyond All Reason. The notable feature of it, is that it can support like 200+ players in collab.

I only mention it because anons here were asking what massive collab games Holo could play besides Minecraft and Rust.

>>106526338
There is none because we literally saw them do it for Risu's stream.

>>106526282
He usually give 500$

>>106526338
The engine doesn't press it. There might be like bots but the usual viewfarm doesn't use it

>>106526312
>scat
no thanks, why do you have that ready

>>106526266
Ngl this saba stream was a bit sus, it should've been a debuff game but got better ccv than horror games like alien isolation and mortuary assistant also her likes ratio was uncharacteristically not 100%

>>106526368
cargo cult tier delusions

>>106526282
Probably some oil prince that likes little girls

>>106526379
For Saba's likes is usually first hour reaching 50% ratio, second hour reaching 75%, and the third hour hitting 90% and above.

>>106526348
If holos can barely manage AoE, what makes you think they can handle TA/Supcom/PA-type games

>>106526379
A game where you can hear her ramble about stuff turns a debuff game into neutral for her, also less churn as people like to stay as they hear her talk.

>>106526379
You underestimated kaniki's obsession with Saba's zatsu no matter how boring people claim she is.

>>106526324
what about 5 hours?

>>106526324
you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about

>>106526415
>debuff game
It's not though? Those stupid sim games always do well. Like the waterpark sim game she played, or even powerwash sim in general

kek

>>106526456
A bummer that waterpark sim was during Youtube shitting themselves for a whole month.

>>106526324
>Me when I lie
Yeah that is every post you make attention whore nigger

She's right, FUCK paper

ah its "claim a buff is a debuff" timeloop time

>>106526484
yeah fu--- pebble why are you unzipping

>>106526480
what is 67?

>>106526348
we need games where holos and fans can participate but the fans being side stuff

>>106526453
Bijou's likes should be similar to that, since to offset the decay, new viewers need to come in. More churns more likes.

>>106526498
It’s doing surprisingly decent

>>106526498
slowly climbing

>>106526516
>back to comparing likes to the only streamer in the world that gets that ratio
ok retard

>>106526498
426k right now

>>106524989
>Then why didn't she do one in Hololive?
Pretty much every project she tried to do got screwed up in some way. It's a lot of money to spend when you no longer have confidence it will come together.
Cover said in an interview that correspondence between EN and JP was translated by interns volunteering in the early years. Not really surprising there were so many issues, which they owned up to and worked to improve.
I don't think anyone is really to blame for it

>>106526506
Its 67

>>106526553
UH OH

>>106526553
>>106526546
Grim views for en

>>106526553
Nearly as much as Nimi NLslop vod

>>106526506
kek unc doesn't know

Biboo's praise kink again

>>106526553
Wait they release a song? lmao

biboo got featured

>>106526553
washed up hag runts

>>106526553
Do you think management freaks out when a song flops

Riddler's got more excuses than he has riddles.

>>106526453
Only biboo gets botted. Saba and Nimi don't. I am a schizo

>>106526602
da r0ck need postiive reinforcement

>>106526652
no they knew it would flop when they released it a month before the mv came out

>>106526553
Promise is dead

>>106526338
Thread was noticing and making fun niji and Kuzuha's very low like ratios to ccv, 10% or lower after hours. So they've spamming and making shit up about likes non-stop to shut down any conversation about it

>>106526517
Because of my playing it on repeat 10 times daily

>>106526652
No one project is so important that it's worth freaking out over. Trends matter, not one-offs.
They botched the song's release timing and promo campaign, so they probably expected it to be debuffed.

>>106526553
Did anyone promote this, just kind of got shadow dropped

>>106526553
Sulfur covid was right

>>106526608
There's no downside to botting. None at all. Especially effective for a chuuba with core viewer 5k or more since it'd be super hard to detect from all metrics.

>>106526702
>No one project is so important that it's worth freaking out over.
That's not true
People give a shit about this behind the scenes, I'm sure people have lost their jobs over flopped projects

Was it worth the money? I think 50k for this was too much.
https://x.com/ClaudiaMonetaVT/status/1987639229334094207?s=20

>>106526553
Fun fact: Myth and Promise, even when combined together, haven't had a song hit 1m views on the EN main channel since...Connect the World more than 2 years ago
They've individually have had hits on their own channels, but not a single one on the main channel after CtW (if that can even be called a hit)

>>106526726
Good thing biboo isn't botted today napkek

>>106526741
at least it seems like she learned something

>>106526741
I hope she made her money back

>>106526731
OK let me rephrase. No one song.
Project is too broad, I mean that varies from ~$10k investment all the way to HoloEarth

>>106526553
Why didn't promise do a collab to raid into the song premiere? Why didn't any of them stream that day in the first place?

>>106526731
Projects are just excuses, and even then maybe the ideas were trash, like the cunny daki, you can't blame them for being deathly afraid of releasing that.

>>106526744
Is that a sign of changing times? Rather than Myth and Promise being bad I think it's just Advent being that good. Justice's only 1m+ is their debut original song

>>106526765
I think she was scammed. I think ludokano was paid around that much for biboo song

Meanwhile indie mv's are thriving

>>106526765
she made about 20 dollars, shes stupid if she thought it would made her rich or something.

>>106526741
ya a lot of indies get scammed

>>106526823
fuck

It cannot be understated how bad this is. I'm talking an all hands on deck meeting needed to happen YESTERDAY bad.

>>106526553
Promise is nothing without Mumei huh

>>106526823
I thought it was over for that EN5 insane girl

>>106526787
their 2nd og song has 1mill

>>106526741
>I think 50k for this was too much.
She literally paid 6 months of an artists salary for something that would take a week or two to make
Yeah, she got ripped off, lol

>>106525984
seriously, why do russain love grimdark story so much?

>>106526823
>not towababy or cumscare
I am disappointed

>>106526866
Isn't that apply to most slavic or eastern europe countries?

>>106526854
Oh I guess people just have myth and promise fatigue then

>>106526553
hello browncord put me in the screenshot

>>106526901
>such a tight budget
hahaha

>>106526741
>Low 3view spending $50k on a lore video
fucking stupid. the dumbest thing small indies do is think they need to LARP like Hololive or other big companies and spend huge on things like that.
wait until you crack $1m in total lifetime revenue before you start even thinking about tossing around $50k on a single project, you morons.
It's cargo cult behavior, mistaking causes and effects.
>Oh big corpo girls have lore videos and spend money on projects, that must be why they're successful, I should do that too!

Honestly even most /lig/ or better girls shouldn't do this stuff, you hear stories like Bao constantly getting scammed out of tons of money every year on retarded projects. Just stream, ladies, you aren't a Holo. Nobody cares.

>>106526553
>Song is only 60k on IRyS channel too
Grim

>>106526886
their group songs are just ass they all have individual songs still hitting 1m

>>106526911
LMAO

>>106526553
Is promise basically dead as a brand? Like myth as a gen is kinda dead but at least individually ina, mori and yes kiara are all still strong brands and iconic

>>106526901
>vtweeter male vtuber um ackshually-ing in the replies
Male vtubers on twitter are a plague, arguably one of the least-appealing groupings of humans ever assembled

>>106526923
Omega era could never

>>106526848
Even with Mumei and Fauna, Our Promise is only at 671k views after 16 months
Ditto with Gura and Ame: ReUnion (more than 2 years old) and The Show Goes On (more than a year old) are only at 929k and 510k respectively

>>106526942
Promise never got off the ground as a brand because they never collabed or did anything apart from a bad orisong and a bad musical

Looks like it's time to drop the dahlahoptbl

MARIMARI_EN 108K DORYA!

>>106526924
Yeah as a group I mean but maybe they are just ass. At least Myth had some hits in the past but I can't think of a single memorable Council or Promise song

>>106526901
mr moneybags over here calling 50k a tight budget

>>106526741
>50k
Pls tell me this isn't real, 50k for generic assets flip.

>>106526956
They should leave the main channel for Advent, the other gens can upload their songs on one of the girls' channel and then activate the collab function.

>>106526967
>>106526975
Its a real shame because they kill it during lives

>>106526942
Promise is fine, they'll never be advent because they are like justice, form pairs naturally but only get together for events.

>>106526973
she's not even live

>>106526866
their entire history is grimdark story

Rei and Sakuna met each other irl and talked about the future of vtubing. Something big is coming Anons, the time of the Akatsuki/Avengers is here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu2GwvYpF7I&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChSrGxE9NE

>>106526553
they're called promise because you have to promise not to laugh when you see their numbers

>>106527006
Trust me you don't want them in any group

If you think Saba's bad check out how many streams Sakuna has done over the past 6 months

>>106527006
ya another sponsor collab

>>106526901
>tight budget
I would love to scammed this faggot.

>>106527006
the JP indie avengers are even more embarrassing than the EN ones

>>106526823
>We, at COVER Corp., have recently confirmed the existence of particular social media accounts and YouTube channels that use names, profiles, and character designs resembling those of Hiodoshi Ao, a former talent who has graduated from hololive production, and Harusaki Nodoka, a former staff member of COVER Corp.
oh shit they noticed lmao

>>106525984
Games that play itself are not games. Play Chaos Zero Nightmare.

why did vtubers randomly start spamming sponsored streams lately? what happened you dont want to stream for the love of the game anymore?

>>106527006
Sakuna streams once every two months.

>>106526823
chama... no.....we couldn't save her....

>>106527006
aqua is lazy as fuck and won't do shit

>>106527062
Unlike the EN ones which are ssssomewhat close to HoloEN in average CCV, HoloJP thrashes all JP ex-Holos by a wide shot and it's incredibly depressing

Aqua was a first army for fuck's sake

>>106527097
and when she does stream, Sakuna just does sponsorships

>>106527088
The bubble is about to pop, they're getting the last bit of money they can before they jump ship

>>106526975
>I can't think of a single memorable Council or Promise song
Well let's see, Council/Promise only have:
3 gen orisongs: Rise, Our Promise, Run Back 'Round
3 gen covers: Hikaru Nara, 2023 Christmas Medley, Umapyoi Legend

>>106527037
I assume she is just retired

>>106527088
they know the bot holocaust is around the corner

>>106527012
The problem with promise is that they just follow what management wants, they don't have anything they really want to do.
Advent think of a meme and do a song to it, feels a little more natural and even their management mandated projects were better but that's probably just blind luck.
Kronii is pushing for some things she wants next year and even this year, the maid outfit and suki suki were very cool and successful, diamond girlfriend was one of the most successful IRyS releases (but she is going too hard into the race girl thing in my opinion)

>>106527006
The Jap comments know what's up!

>>106526787
Advent use a different formula. In Myth and Promise, each talent relies on their own individual popularity, which means most fans don't have a strong tie to being a fan of the gen
Advent instead pushed gen unity first over the individual, so most fans love the gen, but that naturally comes at the cost of their individual popularity
Original songs on Advent's personal channels don't compare to Myth and Promise's, just as Myth and Promise's original songs on the official channel don't compare to Advent's
They have different strengths

>>106527088
>making money is bad
post your hands

>>106527130
>Advent think of a meme and do a song to it
No they fucking don't
There are zero creative minds in Advent, it's all manager led

https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1987777610521493827
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1987777610521493827
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1987777610521493827

it's over

>>106527145
Nerissa is a songwriter you fucking ape

>>106527142
>Advent use a different formula. In Myth and Promise, each talent relies on their own individual popularity, which means most fans don't have a strong tie to being a fan of the gen
This is the most Advent newfag thing I've ever read

>>106527130
>Advent think of a meme and do a song to it, feels a little more natural and even their management mandated projects were better but that's probably just blind luck.
Team Tomodachi is a management project...

>>106525984
>SEA
>blue archive
wtf I love SEA now
>t. SEAchad

>>106527127
Vod views looks pretty solid in the JP vtubing sphere.

>>106527145
You have never watched even 1 minute of a Mococo stream
>>106526975
Feelingradation

>>106524990
No one here actually likes her. We were only using her to shit on Nimi.

>>106527162
damn the drama is affecting them

>>106527171
Not quite

>>106527127
>>106527037
Sakuna had to take like 2 months off to get a new model made. Also she's had like no collab partner options until now. And Rei is probably the kick in the ass she needed to get back on busines.

>>106527162
good, i guess now if some twitterfag decides to impersonate the holoEN account or Gigi or Yagoo i can just send a mail

>>106527189
>You have never watched even 1 minute of a Mococo stream
good
i only watch fuwawa

>>106527142
>Original songs on Advent's personal channels
Advent barely makes any solo original music except for Nerissa. They do a lot more group covers and group originals in comparison.

>>106527189
FuwaMoco are some of the dumbest and least creative people I have ever seen

>>106527162
Rip that Ao schizo account

>>106527202
>Also she's had like no collab partner options until now
Be honest with me, were you laughing while writing this?

>>106527189
feeling graduation is not a promise song

>>106527142
the good singer like nerissa gets views
and her debut cover has more views than every single song not from mori or gura

>>106527231
Also the BBCshit account that was using Shiori's voice

>>106527117
She's unironically the exception to what you said, her average ccv is higher than 90% of holoJP

>>106527202
She hasnt had drive to stream in years giving her people to collab with isnt going to change that since open options are people she was never close with

>>106527252
Covers aren't comparable because they are heavily influenced by the popularity of the underlying song. When it comes to music of their own production and their own style, she is far behind the likes of Mori, Kiara, IRyS, and Bae.

>>106527250
And Hurt isn't a Johnny Cash song

>>106526506
It's the new 69/420, except it doesn't really have a meaning behind it and it's purely "haha funny number"

>>106527117
They lost some Holo bots that's for sure. But they also dropped in views because they don't collab with each other, if they were to form a box, then their numbers would increase.
But despite that, Ruka and Roa are still killing it in Super Chats, and they keep all their VOD/SC profits.

>>106527231
kek

>>106527291
i know why are you telling me this

>>106527323
Retard

The bibotter must be /here/ in this thread. I pointed it out and it started to decay. Still can't hide the not 1:1 like ratio thou

>>106527379
Or, it's 11:30 PM PST - 2:30 AM EST and people are going to bed

>>106527379
You lost retard give up already

>>106527234
It's true, Ruka, Rei and Roa didn't debut until the middle of this year. Those are her most likely collab partners. She wasn't gonna do anything with Kson, Rica or Mikeneko.

>>106527250
it's not their song but Promise's performance at AFO is the definitive version of it

this is better btw

>>106527379
don't you get tired of saying the most retarded shit ever?

>>106527399
>They went to bed without pressing likes
Why are pebbles like this?

>>106527117
At least Sakuna is still a 5view
Ruka and Roa struggle to hit 5k ccv
It's not that their floors have suffered that drastically, it's more that their ceilings have collapsed since they no longer benefit from the gigantic holo JP box

Rule of thumb for ex-holos that I found holds fairly well:
If you bucketize holos in each region by about 5 tiers of ccv, ex-EN dropped by 1 tier, while the ex-JP dropped by 2

>>106527379
Buckbroken cuck

>>106527379
The "Face of EN" who averages 10K+ ccv, had a weaker 3D show than a JP runt who averages 2k-3k ccv.
The "Bibot" title will forever be true.

Who won gold?

>>106527493
Oof

>>106527493
its fine because matsuri is sex

Holy flop

>still upset that Biboo got 10k natty hours later
NGMI

>>106527144
this is more of a millennial vs zoomer thing, in the 90s and early 00s you would be branded as a sellout for taking sponsorship as an individual artist or entertainer. fans would feel betrayed because now you're no longer viewed as a fan to them but instead a consumer.

someone has the updated holo height chart?

>>106527523
Perfect body

>>106527525
wait, that's in JP? I thought that side is free from drama?

>>106527532
It's not a generational thing, it's the difference between Japanese culture and Western culture
In idol culture selling out is viewed as the ultimate goal

>>106527558
no this is

>>106527493
acting like a retard wont save kuzuha from being a 3view shitter without bots

That's why this nigga here >>106527379 is so fucking MAD lmfao

>>106527379
Do you like being called a retard?

>>106527502
Ollie won ID gold

>>106527379
>Still can't hide the not 1:1 like ratio thou
shroud streams on youtube and has like 700 likes with 5k ccv and several hours of streaming lmao
1:1 ratio is retarded and just shows that some cull fuckery is going on (or like botting which is unusual I dunno)

>>106527623
i like it when i get replies to be honest

>>106527523
Is this really her?

>>106527638
Nice

>>106527464
>Ruka and Roa struggle to hit 5k ccv
struggle? they are not hitting it ever
>It's not that their floors have suffered that drastically
it did

>>106527639
who the fuck is shroud? that CS cheater?

>>106527650
>I like when people call me retarded
That's a strange kink, tbdesu

>>106527621
Oh yeah they're mad

>>106527657
yeah but photo is edited

>>106527657
i think that one is fake but theres more videos of her showing her brown nipples

So, why are they botting Luca? Do they think he's the only one worth it?

>>106527695
Lies

>>106527566
>I thought that side is free from drama?
Kek no, the last NijiJP drama is this one

>>106527657
Uncensored by AI, but yeah, it's her

>>106527667
he literally never cheated ever

>>106527493
>average 10k+
Kek pebbles wish

>>106527718
it gets posted everyday anon

>>106527768
That's definitely not true or I would've seen it by now

>>106527525
Now post the pathetic holoen mall collab with the cuck chair

JEEZ GO GET A ROOM
https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1987725983827595649
https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1987725983827595649
https://x.com/FeileacanCu/status/1987725983827595649

Do you think that Elira regrets the black screen stream like Ike did?

are we fr

>>106527852
WAIT THE PISS ONE? SERIOUSLY?
Today I learned

>>106527525
hehehe HAHAHAHAHA

>>106527525
That was before the store opened. why so dishonest if they really are doing badly?

>>106527802
Nijicuck, your response?

these new holo announcers, aren't they just JP7 but they pay them less?

>>106527903
thats why they quit

>>106527525
HOLY FLOP, nijisister are poorfag.

>>106527525
>At this Hour
What so like morning before the store opened?

>>106527829
She volunteered for it, she love the spotlight.

>>106527903
just like dev_is

your oshi is next

>>106527925
6pm in japan

>>106527525
I notice in NijiJP chat, they spam a translated word "Member TSKR" as in begging for free memgifts

>>106527965
Nimi is immune to this

Biboo's canon event...

>>106527965
You mean Imma slip up and reveal that Im dating Migo???

>>106527612
okay, can youtube chat be broken by 300 chat per minutes?

>>106527162
this is just their subtle way of shutting down future Ex-holos so they can't reincarnate successfully. imagine they say this before Saba debuted she'll get cancelled by the holokeks right away for "impersonating Gura"

>>106527965
i hope, kronii deserves a gf

this is the scenery for most days ending with y

>>106528079
cute bibs

>>106528056
yeah, Nimi

>>106528088
begone vile nigger

>>106528050
kek no this isn't an isolated incident either

>>106528056
Someome post the thing

>>106528088
too late

>>106528052
are they that butthurt over nodoka

I saw some discussion of music numbers earlier and I thought it would be interesting to go to each girl's channel and get a general snapshot of each girl's music portfolio on youtube. So I'm just going to go to their channel video tab and sort by popularity to see how well their 12 best videos did. No spotify or youtube music numbers or anything, and nothing without a mv that you can only via the topic/music releases page, just raw video numbers. Let's see how they stack up. I figured it would also be a good refresher for me to look at old music.
I'll start with Myth and then go down the list by gen.

Here's Mori to start. The queen of EN music numbers.

>>106528052
>least retarded avengernigger

>>106528112
Gura. Why are there 2 reflect videos?

>>106528099
This made me realize that Kronii had a duet cover with every Promise members except fauna lmfao

I think most ENs are already demoralized from streaming. They go live, and there’s Biboo overlapping and mogging them again, every single day.

>>106528132
did she stop redirecting to a homo so that i can watch her again

>>106528141
Kiara

>>106528132
sorry zeta, i was hungry

>Nimi below 6k
fellow napcucks we gotta anti hololive even harder that will save her

>>106527898
They love it

No Biboo... Don't go...

>>106528157
Ina
As we keep going we'll start to see more videos listed that aren't songs

>>106528174
Ame

>>106528103
what? yobtl?

>>106528106
to be fair the two accounts that claim to be Nodoka reincarnations were too on the nose with referencing their past lives. but i can see V antis using this to shut down Ao and Nodoka if they legit decided to reincarnate. just brand them as an impostor and the hololive fans will turn against them.

>>106528141
MV wasn't ready for Reflect when it was first released, so the first video is just a static png (as if it was a YT music topic video)
The 2nd video is the actual MV released about a year later

>>106528146
>why does she get bots but not me :(

>Saba is a runt
>Dooby is a runt
>Roa is a runt
>Holo runt like Risu are getting cleaned out
>Phase/Niji lost
Hololive won hard bigly once again

>>106528188
Moving onto Promise, here's Bae

>>106528196
Dumb faggot

>>106527664
Roa can reach 5K+ in collabs and Ruka can do it in FOTM games. But Ruka barely plays FOTM games when they're trending.

>>106528146
>>106528191
>>106528196
>>106528202
We see you retarded trannies.

***ger K***ht

>Biboo sub 10k again
>losted gold to Saba again
What happened? Pebbles told me that she will easily beat her today with the super buff game choice

>>106528211
IRyS

>>106528193
It's crazy when you compare the MVs from VWP to Hololive members. Cover is truly small indie company.

>>106528191
>hololive fans
you ain't slick or smart matomenigger

>>106528149
If you're talking about Risu, no

>>106528232
Mumei

>>106525375
why is the thumb in front of the glass

>>106528217
All natty and slightly culled as their ccv to like ratio is 50X better than all current Holo JP members.

>>106528231
She hit 10k though

another one
https://x.com/yuuka_yukisaki/status/1987764049069957192

>>106528246
Kronii

>>106528254
the thumb is the least of your problems because you are looking at a horse

>>106528267
Fauna

even the shitposts are the not worth with the shitpost reply anymore. we need streams

Hey now ain't that funny?

https://x.com/Yuukisakunainfo/status/1987792343529857225
wait, why is the "Produced by Yuuki Sakuna" roblox project sponsored by Brave?

>>106528283
Oh and here's Sana too I guess

>>106527798
I don't know what you're talking about, but post your boobs

It seems that they are still strong after the drama.

WTF THE CAT LIVED

>>106528299
Moving onto Advent, here's Nerissa

>>106528314
Fuwamoco
(Fuwawa confirmed > Mococo)

>>106528329
>Fuwawa confirmed > Mococo
based

>>106528304
Is it the power of unicorns?

>>106528297
Brave has a creators' program

>>106528295
>Lamy
4k likes on a 11K live streams is pretty bard, that's below 50% the ccv.

>>106528329
Biboo

>>106528343
Nigga look at the run times

Nimi News,
Her sub growth rate is starting to recover

>>106528344
Shiori

>>106528343
lamy is a bard? I thought all knife ears were archers

>>106524887
ah how nostalgic. back when Fauna was still a pillar of CGDCT. back when Promise chemistry was still strong, despite all the drama
what went so wrong?

What the heck, Biboo's still streaming? Girl you should ease down on facing your pc for several hours its not healthy..

>>106528343
>pretty bard
With her singing? She can't even play a lute.

>>106528358
Onto Justice, here's Gigi

>>106528375
It's fine, her eyeballs are made of gems

>>106528344
Biboo Biboo

Did they just re-skin Nodoka into two non-holo VAs?

>>106528392
ERB

>>106528366
they're archers by trade but bard by birth. kind of like how all dwarves are miners and blacksmiths. even if they're warriors or circus freaks.

>>106528392
Hai Yorokonde is such a bop

>>106528404
>VA
begone foul nigger

>>106528314
It's not part of the videos tab, but there's also her covers under the releases tab. In particular, her Good Luck Babe has 1m+ views

>>106528344
Face of EN and her top video is 1M views? Pebblebros what gives...

>>106524614
We can't have all 3 streaming at the same time, too much cunny power for the world to handle.

>>106528407
Cecilia
>>106528420
Yeah, I noted that when I started doing this. Just going through the videos tab.

>>106528423
you niggers really like the face of en shitposting heh

>>106528424
GG is hebe, not cunny

>>106528428
stop posting my wife

>>106524866
wtf she looks like Koyori but... Evil Spirit.

>>106528343
Lamy been botted, just like Watame. Her likes to ccv ratio is among the worst in Holo JP.

>>106528112
>>106528232
>>106528314
>>106528407

Tale of vsingers
Number wise
Mori > Nerissa > Irys > erb
Vocal range
Erb > Nerissa > Irys > Mori
Lyric
Mori > Nerissa > Irys > Erb

>>106528428
And last is Raora. Seems like there's a threshold of minimum videos before you can sort by viewcount.

>>106524614
why is that child so lewd looking?

>>106528343
>>106528447
>nigger sees a list with terrible ratio
>the lamy is le botted
sad cucks

>>106528428
>>106528442
Why no 1 million otomo? Even raora has 2 and she is the runt of justice

>>106528450
Say My Name is almost doubled by Carbonated Love

>>106525189
Any word form Risu herself??

>>106528460
kys nigger

>>106528454
I don't think cc ever denied this.

>>106525340
Cute boy

>>106528434
? It was cover who treated her as such.

>>106528466
she could be a 2 view and i wouldnt really care. i just like my wife

>>106528344
>>106528423
Biboo should have made all her meme songs official and posted them on her channel. They would of done numbers back then.

>>106528507
Why in numbers thread then otomo. People will make fun of you

>>106528507
ligger mentality

>>106525551
Damn,

bae serves NO purpose, she should graduate and spend her days on my DICK daily,

>>106528463
it's the same retarded nijinig that was sperging out trying to say biboo was botted

>>106528510
Yeah its not how things work pebblechad

>>106528519
>Why in numbers thread then otomo
i never mentioned her. i told you to stop posting my wife

>>106528466
shit even shiori was able to squeeze out a million

>>106528520
>>106528519
are you trying to be a parody?

>>106525759
Looks natty actually, no weird smooth as fuck curve

>>106528143
Nimi left too soon

>>106528466
If you want a legit reason, Raora's covers are two of the most popular DECO27 and Crusher-P songs

>>106528475
And her debut cover has almost 3 times the views of IRyS's most viewed song