Being Hopeful for the future and love for being here at this moment with us

>>5900430 (OP)
Blessed thread, ygmi

>>5900532
No Beavis, you are not going to make it, WE'RE going to make it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa1n6Gch7E

Fight to live
Live to fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CxF0hfPXY
https://songstraducoes.com/leandro-leonardo/eu-juro

>>5900433
Best post in all this thread so far

>>5900513
is there a HD version of this video?

>>5902724
Best I can find is this. Doesn't have the full video and isn't HD. I found >>5900513 from a previous hope thread. Just reposting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwAp16rRoM

>be me in 2022
>had a moderately successful business renting a kitchen from a pub, selling food to the punters
>pub gets sold, move to a different one
>goes horribly, make very little money, fight tooth and nail to make it work, work 100 hour weeks but it wont go
>end up in 1000's of debt to suppliers, rent arrears, loans ect.
>have to close business, live on one meal a day, spend christmas day alone in a mouldy room eating rice for christmas dinner
>spend the next few 6 months working in various shit chef jobs to pay the debt off
>move city, get offered to start another business by a pub owner
>food goes down extremely well, but pub owner scares off customers with his coke-addict mates, starts feuds with other business, steals money from the kitchen
>back on the 100 hour week trying to make everything work grind, feel like life is falling apart
>new years eve 2024 plan to throw myself infront of a train, stand on platform, have my last cigarette and beer with toes over the edge 5 mins before its scheduled
>train gets cancelled
>in tears on the train back, a complete mess
>next morning wake up with a sense of hope i've never had before, cut ties with pub owner and apply to help out at a homeless shelter
>spend 2 months cooking for homeless people, absolutely love it, meet lots of cool people and a qt girl
>out of nowhere get offered a contract to do banquets for a local conservative club
>qt girl makes me feel a way I haven't felt since a teenager, she brings me food and flowers, is extremely loving and goes out of her way to be nice
>conservative club banquets are great, make good money and only have to work a few days a week, plus have gained lots of useful contacts and a few gifts of whisky and a huge tv
>currently chilling with a cold beer and a ciggy, feet up, knowing im going to wake up happy tomorrow

years of absolute suffering lads but it came together! wagmi i believe in all of you if it can work out for a retard like me in can work out for you

>>5902747
Now put a baby in her - assuming she's White.

>>5902443
funny, because this bullshit makes forget that we are part of the universe, and incredibly cruel. actually nothing else is crueler than ourselves.. I think I hate hope ore, anon... i want to be an hero

does anyone remember those train gifs where there's pleasant music playing in the bg, and it starts out with something along the lines of "how ya doing anon..." and ends with [wsg]

>>5902747
based.

happy for you mate

Wanted to share this it has helped me months ago to make permanent changes https://youtu.be/75d_29QWELk

>>5907850
That very cool.

bump

>>5909062
I know it's a meme song but I unironically enjoy it.

Oysters give me hope
https://youtu.be/iXexmZm3_j8?t=140

>>5902747
You are a king, so happy for you.

>>5909062
where the hell did this post come from?
i've spent the past 10 minutes search 4plebs, desuarchive, and archived.moe trying to search for the post included in this webm

the closest i've gotten was this gif: https://archived.moe/vip/thread/126200/#126342

> be me, 19y/o depressed college student
> rotting in bed all day, not going to classes
> Omw to fail all my exams this semester
> Therapy, antidepressants not working
> Losing all my gym gains due to not being able to get myself to work out and gaining back all the weight I lost from summer cut
> Doing objectively shit work at my software development job
> No romantic experiences in my life, feelings where never returns in 6+ cases
> Wasted a year being depressed already, hitting worse bottoms every week with no end in sight
> Had so much potential (valedictorian, published paper, took college courses in HS) but wasting it all and getting behind, having the worst college experience imaginable

The only reason I haven't killed myself is my younger sister. I hate myself so very bad, and I don't have any hope left. Everything is falling apart, and I just sit there, watching my life getting worse by the day. I just can't do it anymore man. I've suffered all my life, but there was always some payoff waiting, suffering for a better future. Rn, the pay off is everything getting worse because I sabotage myself.

What do I do, anons?

>>5910830
Embrace the struggle. This world is absurd and you clearly have an itch within you to live. Why not do whatever the fuck you want? I recommend you look into absurdism

>>5910830
Lad, I might not be the right person to help you, but I just wanna say that in that point of your life you might not understand how young you really are. 19 is literally still a teenager and sooner or later you will realize how little time one "wasted year" actually was. For an example, in many countries one year in that age is spent in mandatory military service, which doesn't really give you any kind of advance in life, unless you decide to be a soldier. What I'm trying to say here is you are still a young boy with countless of opportunities.
I also see you clearly recognize what is wrong in your life at the moment. You might not believe it, but that is a very good first step in getting your things together. Many young men in a situaton like yours seem to be frozen in their sadness, not even trying to figure out what really is wrong, only blaming some abstract "depression" or some another overly-diagnosed mental illness.
I would recommend you to focus on fixing one matter at a time. Like that therapy/medication situation - rethink if you really need it! For many people antidepressants might actually be very harmful. You should also take a break from the gym, it is not for everyone. Walking or cycling around is actually a very good way to kepp yourself slim and in reality most of the work in losing weight does not come from your exercise but from your diet. Maybe you should try to quit sugar products like soda? Social media is also poison for your mind, you might want to try to quit using it if you do.
I'm not sure how the college system works in your country (Usa?) but could you only finish a couple of exams you feel better with and beat the rest of them next semester after the summer break?
.

>>5910830
>>5910896
Continuing...
>No romantic experiences in my life, feelings where never returns in 6+ cases
You are only 19! Everything is still ahead of you, you do not have to be in a hurry with relationships. I had the same problems, I always thought there was something very wrong with my mind for being a social weirdo without girls. But eventually I got a wonderful gf in the age of 24. Still together. Rethinking now the period before meeting her, I was in a quite dark place myself too. But somehow I started to fix my life one piece at a time, like finishing the studies I had previously failed and given up with. Trust me, getting back on the rails with your studies after hard times really gives you quite a mental boost.
This might sound corny, but in my experience good thoughts lead into good things, and good things gather more good things around them, and until you even notice, you have a bunch of good things around you! And in that point you will remember the dark times and finally understand that the problems you had back then were not unbeatable and by your own work you beat them.
This kind of post might not help you at all, but all I want to say is that you are a very young man and there is a huge potential hiding inside you. You can and you will find hope in your life again. Stay strong, king.

A soundtrack to your ascension.

>>5910896
>>5910897

Thanks man. I know I'm young it's just... It's hard to believe in everything working out when everything is falling apart. I know I've got some potential, but I also feel I'll never access it - because I, in my own weak mind and deficiency, choose not to. I wish I could, but I just can't. It's all my faul. But I guess I got no choice but to see where this goes. Maybe you got to burn something down before rebuilding some times...

>>5910830
You have some kind of mental illness. You just sort of need to accept that and commit to change. As in real commitment, not because teachers or parents told you to, for yourself. You tell yourself "yes, I'm going to do this".

It is like taking a piss, a strange analogy I know, but when you need to pee you automatically get up and pee in the toilet instead of just lay there and let it dribble down your leg. You don't even think about it and work yourself it, it is just "my bladder compels me". It is not something you will cry over, you don't want to cry over it.

Now imagine if you had that same compulsion to study and unfuck your poor performance in college before it is too late. If you got into the zone and studied for hours and didn't feel bad about it. You may feel bad, but it is not because you are studying, that feeling will be there whatever you do I'm afraid, but it shouldn't keep you from studying.

The only way to diminish the feeling is eat vegetables, jog, get proper sleep and seek mental healthcare et cetera..

>>5910996

That's a good point. Maybe I just gotta accept everything sucks, stop pitying myself and push through. Maybe that's all the hope I can realistically get rn...

>just be positive theory
>>>/x/40624151

>>5900936
>In such times we can turn to the Lord, but it's good to have friends, and the good Lord knows there's much to be done here.
>You're a good neighbor to us, thank you.
This compilation of Joshua's quotes is something I listen to on the regular. A shame his dlc was so short, but rich with his wisdom. The crimes he'd done, the suffering he'd endured, it'd break any man into a monster, but instead he learned. Learned a sentiment of understanding, and learned to love himself again. He's seen some of the worst the wasteland has to offer and it was love that kept him sane. He knows there's nothing he can do to make up for all the horrific crimes against humanity he's done, but he must try. It's why I found Kratos' character in the newer God of Wars so appealing. The monster that broke out of the cycle of violence and self-hatred. I never will adopt the faith, but men like Joshua and Fred Rodgers inspire me to try to be a good neighbor. That is good enough for me, and I flatter myself to think it's good enough for them too.

>>5903073
What defines the hero is not goodness but greatness. A cruel hero is even more valuable than a magnanimous one as he creates the chance for others to rise above as he has done.

>>5902747
Don't worry, it will trend back down again eventually

>>5907204
>have the gayest ambition possible

>>5910996
vegtables.....
lol enjoy ur oxilate/lectin anti youth sludge
eggs, milk, steak, ect=happyness and virility
t-A vril wizard

>>5910813
here you go anon

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/chunk/629201929/500/5/

The main clue was the very high post count, /v/ and /b/ are as far as i know the only boards with that many posts. Background is blue so therefore it has to be /v/. After that you search for the post number in order to avoid accidentally making a typo (assuming the post has at least one reply).

>>5907301
what is even the point

>>5902747
I'm glad to hear that you made it through! Keep going.

>>5911701
He said "an hero" not "a hero" you retard. Did you come from twitter with your dumb takes or what?
>inb4 >replying to 4 days old post

>>5902747
extremely based, man. Had same shitty periods in my life, but managed to find a decent job and kick off from there

>>5900430 (OP)

Requesting the webm with the animator talking about his craft where he says 'It's about the pursuit of excellence'. It has footage from the Prince of Egypt as I seem to recall.

>>5916206
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1751309324402563.webm

Holy shit stumbled across this in another thread. Here you go anon.

>>5910990
>>5910993
Actually fkn crazy and motivational even if nazi worship is cringe.

>>5910830
>Had so much potential (valedictorian, published paper, took college courses in HS) but wasting it all and getting behind
have you perhaps used up all your energy already? I see a lot of kids who get burnt the fuck out because they're pressured into 6 AP courses, a thousand hours of volunteering, and multiple extracurriculars in high school. so much energy spent caring for shit that never mattered, drains their souls out before they even make it to the end goal they wanted. take a break when you can, maybe sit back and think about what you want with yourself. holiday break, semester off, gap year, whatever you can get. time away from it all to forget and recover. what was that better future you were looking towards? was that really your dream, or something you were pushed into and just accepted? what did you enjoy, and do you still? 19's a fine age, plenty of time left to work things out. plus, every generation seems to take a few years longer to get it all done. marrying in your 30s was ridiculously late for your grandparents but these days it just takes that long to find a partner and stable career. the worst thing you can do right now is suck it up and keep going until death takes you after a miserable lonely life; so take a break, do something drastic, fuck around and find out.

>burnout neet after first job worked me hard with low pay and no benefits
>1.5 year neetdom, depressed
>decide to change, apply to trade school and get accepted
>actually do ok, don't fail any classes or tests because study hard
>right after I get my certification, Covid hits and the school closes for a few months
>bank still wants me to pay back loan on time though, so get job
>job pays low, little progress
>can'thavethat.png, get new job that pays twice as much
>pay off loan while living at parents
>save up money slowly
>get own car, get own apartment, move out
>living on own now, not saving a ton but making progress
>start self improvement, working on self
>still a bit lonely but that'll change with self improvement
Sometimes progress takes a long time, and with the modern world it can seem that the deck is stacked against us. But despite everything, we're still here. Things will change, and we WILL eventually get the futures that we hope for.

>>5902747
Hell yeah. Keep at it !

>>5916484
Good stuff, man. It's all about making consistent, productive steps everyday and accepting that one cannot give up on life, i.e., Nietzsche, not Schopenhauer

>>5917501
nothing hopecore about this. all I want is to turn back the clock before AI existed and savor it so much more than I did. it hurts so much knowing I wasted the only AI-free time of my life and I will never get it back.

>>5907204
thank you tzeentch

>>5917533
all ai content is inherently ropefuel

Everyday is a day that you can make one step.
That step can be backwards, and that's ok, sometimes you do need to step back so that you can have a wider view of what's ahead.
Sometimes you make no step whatsoever, and that's ok, sometimes you do need to take a breather before moving forward.
Sometimes you make a step sideways, and that's ok, sometimes to move forward you first must open a path.
And finally, sometimes you make a step forward, and there is simply nothing like it.
And when you do, you'll realize nothing was in vain. One day you'll look back and realize how far you've come. That's why it's important. Keep moving.

>>5917504
This wins it all

bump

for those suicidal.
I hail from /out/, this is my plan b.

>>5909062
nice.
i post a lot but i know a guy who is a real lurker, he said he has only ever maybe made about 10 posts in his life despite browsing for years.

good thread, more please

>>5913231
i couldn't tell you, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. or that there has to be one. i find that a really american mindset, that there has to be a point or a goal or something, or winners and losers, or you have to succeed. why not just be and be good?
>"because everything is shit and boo hoo hoo"
do you know what will happen tomorrow? yes? great, then you can plan around that to make things better. no? also good, then you have possibilities.
I won't accept "can't" things are hard now, but some of the greatest things in history were born out of hardship. find a way, find a path, maybe you have to change everything in ways you never imagined, and maybe that's why you are miserable, because you are flogging a dead horse and wondering why you aren't going anywhere, saying
>"maybe if i flog it from the left or from the back, then maybe it will go!"
no. you will have to find another metaphorical method of transport, or find no way! just stop flogging it, you don't have to go anywhere, there doesn't have to be a point. AND YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT THE POINT IS ANYWAY.

>>5925584
>because you are flogging a dead horse and wondering why you aren't going anywhere, saying
I could say the same about people following cookie cutter self improv routine/advice expecting something out of it.

You start saying
> or that there has to be one.(...) that there has to be a point or a goal or something, or winners and losers, or you have to succeed. why not just be and be good?
but then quickly changes tone to using "maybe that's why you are miserable" as justification, as if I the point is to not be miserable

>>5910896
solid adv
you should be a therapist

Here's one of my favourites

>>5902443
I don't know what to fight for bros... I've no goals, no passions, no will to do anything

>>5926606
>kindergarten graduation
mutts just go for any opportunity to make an occasion, huh?

>>5926612
>video contains niggers becoming rappers
that is not a good thing.
hope would them be becoming good fathers.
>>5925636
a point to me implies a goal or something, your emotional state is not the point, is is a side-effect ro result of other things, if your emotional state is the point, drug yourself. another classic narcissistic american mindset.

>>5927326
you implied very clearly the change of the emotional state as a point, as justification, as motivation, immediately after saying there is no need for a point, it doesn't need to have a point. "oh anon, maybe your refusal try these things is why you are miserable/you need to try things to try to stop being miserable".

At this point, this is not even about the actions suggested on the video, or about being miserable (that you assumed completely unilaterally that I am), or nihilism, I am simply pointing out a clear contradiction. This is simply text comprehension and logic, but you seem to be unable to analyze it without a big emotional bias. Just look at how you take a defensive stance and attack me, assuming whatever is convenient for you, cause you can't stand someone disagreeing or even questioning your post.

>drug yourself. another classic narcissistic american mindset.

>>5927341
nice chat gpt response. you overlook a difference in definition of "point" and disregarded everything i said.

>>5927403
>"a point implies a goal"
you made a post implying the goal of not being miserable

you disregarded everything i said and then doubles down on ad hominem, its easier to just attach labels and call names, right?

>>5910830
I've literally been there anon. It gets better.

>>5910830
Ah dude, it does not seem like it, but with 19 you still have your whole life ahead of you. When I was that age, I also believed I have reached rock bottom, fell as deep as it gets. I got really ill and very much might have not made it through, I was a reclusive retard who had no idea where he was going in life.

And, well, I am above 30 now and not much changed. All those 10 or so years since then gave me is the belief that shit can change at any moment, you just have to make it happen. I am once again starting over after losing all my friends, being stuck in a dead end relationship and finding out that my major isnt worth shit especially under the current economy. I have nothing besides my experience and that is okay.
You dont even have that, so I understand that things are hard and you think life is already over. You havent even really started yet though.
Keep going, what you have at the moment is a lot of time, use it.

>>5927015
>yuros seething as mutts mind their own business and have fun

if you werent so obsessed maybe your flag would be on the moon too

>>5927422
is this pilupl? i am experiencing pilpul right now?

this is hopecore not your bullshit fillibuster thread.

>>5911759
kek

>>5910830
you can literally do nothing for ten straight years and still be fine. just chill out

from one of the alternate timelines.

>>5926718
make it to spite everything, anon

>>5926718
You don't want to live for yourself, that's fine. Why don't you strive to make a lot of money and help animals, youth, or whatever else makes you tear up? I exist solely to help save animals lives.

>>5926718
I feel like I'm in the same boat. I just don't care. I would consider myself relatively successful. I'm not some NEET, I'm halfway through medschool and I have some close friends. But I am putting so much effort in something I don't care about and I am too deep in to turn back. Maybe I'm lonely and need my dick wet but it's so tiring.

>wife wants to break up because I can't stand her cheating anymore
>she started using the kids against me
>pretty sure they will both grow to hate me due to her mother's poison
>no job
>no prospects in life
>40
sometimes I wonder why I haven't just pulled the plug already

>>5928487
Nice to see you finally accepting life for what it is pussy. Hopefully your wife and kids can find a real man to take care of them.

>>5911668
I also like that video
>The light of the mind alone cannot burn away all darkness
I don't care if it's cringe, I think about that quote and the one in the thumbnail of >>5926612 every day. Friends, family, acts of service, making steps toward achievable goals, the ability to reflect on myself and my actions, the ability to change, the ability to admit my faults, and the ability to do what's right. These are all things that make us good neighbors.

I'm glad you mentioned Mr. Rogers. Graham's quote from before is about support networks, it's one I imagine Mr. Rogers would agree with. It's funny how fictional characters/TV actors can help us.

I've had a pretty easy life all things considered, so it's easy for me spout off all that stuff above. I don't want to bring attention to anyone in particular, but it's hard watching people mention their problems ITT or see people be toxic. I can't really do anything other than wish I could help, and hope things get better somehow.

Anyone got the one about the lion and its a video of a lion fighting off some hyenas or some shit until another one shows up?

>>5927778
Someone tried to debate argumentative logic over a small contraditiction and semantics, a literal nothing burguer, but you refuse to even acknowledge any sort of reasoning and resort to calling names and gasligthing to avoid the main point.

>>5916181
>MX500
I still use that mouse. Yearp, they don't make em like that anymore.

>>5926606
why can't w*stoids do this with their grandparents

>>5928487
my mom did the same to my dad but you can't hide the truth indefinitely so her lies got exposed after a while
he had a nice job btw she simply ruined our lives because of liberal brainwashing
your kids have a dark future ahead of them so you're gonna need to work even harder to be ready to give them counsel, mental and financial support
you've unlocked life's hardest difficulty there's no backing out of this
also that's a cringe video my dude

>>5928546
hyenas: we have an army
lion: i have a brother