Thread 1534868

How do I get better at drawing if my drawings look this shitty? I tried using a reference and everything and it still ended up turning out this shitty. I don't know what else to do.

Here was the reference I used

hey, i’ve been drawing for like 12 years. it really takes just a BUNCH of practice. i know you don’t wanna hear that but that’s really it.

also, i would recommend not relying on the reference too much, since your art will never match it perfectly. i used to heavily reference anime art and it just looked wrong since it was a copy and not my own rendition, if that makes sense.

also, work a lot on the foundations like anatomy and poses, they can really spice up your art and make it look really good if you don’t have a lot of skill there originally.

focus on building your own style, and then lightly look over the reference before making it your own!! and it’s not shitty, you have a really good foundation. just keep at it and don’t give up :-D

>>1534868 (OP)
I want to give you a different perspective than the other anon.
It's not that much about the amount of practice hours, but the 'quality' of those practice hours.
Such that if you spent X amount of hours doing A, or the same X amount of hours doing B, after doing A you'll be drawing better than if you did B.

What learning material works better for you and makes you improve the fastest is something you need to investigate by trying DIFFERENT things, as only you will know this. What works for you might not work for me.

>>1534879
I don't know what works for me is the problem. A lot of guides look too complicated for me.

>>1534879
I can barely make myself draw for 30 seconds before i get distracted by phone and my computer. My shakiness makes it really hard to draw anything even with 100% stabilizing on, which is why I switched to a tablet in the first place. I can't figure out any art guides because they look too complicated and exhausting. I've never finished a single line exercise either.

draw from life, a flower pot or a jug of milk can teach you a lot about shapes and light.
Get a pocket notebook and a pen, go outside and draw people on the few second they're still, this'll teach you to see the important parts of a figure and a gesture.

>>1534895
I don't just want to draw simple objects. I want to draw characters. I don't want to spend a ton of time making drawings of just objects. What's actually going to be demoralizing is drawing simple objects because I'm not good enough at the stuff I actually want to draw.

If you cannot draw something simple like an apple how are you going to draw something complex like a character? You have to start with simple things.

>>1534906
meant for >>1534900

>>1534906
>I don't want to spend a ton of time making drawings of just objects. What's actually going to be demoralizing is drawing simple objects because I'm not good enough at the stuff I actually want to draw.

>>1534910
but if you want to get good you NEED to draw boring things so you can draw the cool things you WANT.

>>1534911
I'm going to lose interest pretty quickly then. That's how my ADHD works.

Redoing this whole picture.

>>1534888
>>1534900
>>1534912
Is this fun for you, Howie?

Here's what I've got so far.

>>1534931
Make a blog somewhere else faggot

I'm asking for advice and showing what I'm doing.

>>1534868 (OP)
>How do I get better at drawing if my drawings look this shitty?
PET THE FUCKIN' DOG!

>>1534937
I'm trying to learn how is the problem.

>>1534868 (OP)

You messed up with the head(actual head without hair) and neck, her neck clearly aint that long but because you drew the head too small it dont look right. Fit the head to scale and the neck will fix itself.
The rest doesnt look that bad.

>>1534940
It looks like a fucking eight year old's drawing. What are you talking about?

>>1534942

Its supposed to from what im seeing.

>>1534888
Hey me too! I have ADHD too.
The way that I found to combat it, is to focus on drawing rule34 (cartoon porn). Finding sexy characters that I'm attracted to, and drawing porn of them. That was the only way to keep me interested enough to complete a doodle.
Just practicing drawing clean curves* with pen and paper (fuck tablet + digital, get good at TRADITIONAL art first) is very boring, that's why instead of drawing a nice clean curve, I'm actually drawing the nice clean outline of breasts of that character that I like. Or the lip outlines of her plump puzy.

* There are only three possible types of curves that you need to learn: the serpentine, the cusp and the loop. Mathematically they are the only possible ways a curve can be and that you'll ever draw.
If you master these three types (by doing lots of exercises on paper), then anything you try to draw (boobs, thighs, big bubble butts, feet) will be easy as they're just a combination of these curves.

>>1534868 (OP)
Just practice one line segment at a time rather than attempting the whole piece at once
Your fundamental skill gap is MEASUREMENT and if you can't do that for something as simple as the slightly curvy line on the right side of her head or the three to four major bends that make up the bottom of the eyes that should be your main priority
Yes it will look like schizo scribbles in retrospect but this really is your fundamental skill, there are more detailed drills in the "Mid-Beg" section here:
https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
The videos are not dense, just watch them at double speed and you'll get the concept by looking.

>>1535034
I just did this recently.

>>1535035
Case in point, you need to improve your fundamental angle and proportion skills, it's the typical /beg/ deficiency and you'll notice your improvement far more rapidly if you target it. Draw similar redlines on your attempt and compare to original. Do it again on as many segments as you can keep in your head at a time. This is how you practice.

>>1535036
Someone else showed me this trick. Which one should I try?

>>1535035
The funny thing is that if you take your fuzzy lines on the chin there, if you average all of them you'll find the perfect chin line.

Meaning, you KNOW what line you're trying to go for, but your low IQ has you banging your head against the wall by trying to reach that perfect line only through hand + arm movements which requires lots of training, instead of you just going to the vector line tool and sculpting the exact shape of curve that you're after, with variable thickness and all.
But keep wasting time I guess

>>1535047
Okay so tell me the process for what I'm supposed to do.

>>1535041
You can use the guidelines if you find them helpful, but use them to FIND the extreme points and dips I described in my previous reply.

You'd probably get better advice if you asked in /ic/.

>>1535076
- Lock the fuzzy sketch layer so you won't paint on it by accident.
- Set the layer opacity low so it's faded, you're using it as a reference.
- Create a new layer on top, draw a clean line that averages all your fuzzy lines, like that red polynomial regression curve is doing to all those data points -- it's averaging them.

So you are sketching a reference layer, then later inking on another layer with just clean lines, using your sketch as reference.

>>1535106
I'm making a new layer right now, I just finished up the sketching process and cleaned it up a little.

>>1535093
Here's the "advice" I've gotten from IC.

>>1535106
I started drawing using the curve tool in FireAlpaca to help make perfect curves.

>>1535119
Nice. Now you just need to get familiar with it. It'll take 3 more drawings.

A pro artist uses his expensive Cintiq tablet to show off his perfect handmade inking on his YT channel, but that guy made a career out of it.
Unless you're going in the same direction, you don't have years of practice under your belt, so you use the next best thing: sculpting these vector lines to look exactly how you want them.
(The reference sketch can be done by hand tho, you just need a ballpark of what shapes you're going for).

>>1535201
What do you mean by "It'll take 3 more drawings?" I don't know if you'll still be around to read this, but still.

I still haven't even finished that Hat Kid drawing.

I came back to this drawing.

>>1535035
>>1535047
I'm bad at art too but I heard practicing to draw continuous lines instead of multiple bad lines helps. And maybe try to use your shoulder more instead of wrist. Idk if this is legit good advice or not but it's worth a shot

Here's the finished lineart.
>>1535656
I don't know how to do with that my drawing tablet.

>>1535656
Here's the finished lineart. I'm not sure how to use my shoulder with the drawing tablet I have.

>>1535664
Good work OP, keep it up up up!

>>1534868 (OP)
study anatomy, start with loomis i guess since you're impatient. Start with normal people to understand how shit works then move to anime. You might think it's useless to start with real people but anime characters have the same principles as people with just different proportions. You have to understand how they work in a 3d space if you don't want you characters to look flat like in the op pic

>>1535672
It took me like a week to reach this point and the entire time I was having trouble because of how torturous it was to get this tiny sketch done. At this rate, it'll take decades for me to passably draw something I want to draw.

>>1535770
I can't help cause I also have trouble concentrating. I have multiple projects I work on and usually end up not completing them unfortunately

Here's my latest drawing.

>>1535914
Good job. When it's finished I will paint it for you

>>1536047
Finally done.

>>1534868 (OP)
Shitposting
Just draw stupid shit you think would be funny. Don't think about anatomy, perspective or any of that shit, just draw something to entertain yourself. Shitpost enough and you'll figure shit out over time. A lot of people focus way too much on drawing stuff "right" when you should be focusing on just drawing and forming a habit of it.

>>1536386
I had to scale your pic down because adding color made it go over the file size limit

>>1536533
Wait, how did you do that?

>>1536715
You mean what brush I used? I used the Krita charcoal brush, but turned the opacity down so it ended up looking more like water color.

Try the john k blogspot for drawing tips

>>1536728
No I mean how did you resize the file like that and upload it, even though it shows it as being over the 4mb limit?

>>1537243
The limit is 8 mb here