As I get older life seems to just get worse. Friends change into monsters, the people you love get sick or fade out of your life, life just turns into work with little free time. Everything seems to be just getting worse, on a personal as well as societal level. Why?

There is so much suffering and unfairness, it just doesn't make sense that a loving God would enable such suffering.

Ecclesiastes and job are the most profound, soul touching books I have ever read, books centered on the nature of human suffering. Is that all humanity is? Suffering? To what end?

“...do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.”

“Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”

“...if we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.”

I need some wisdom anons, my sweet dog died this morning and all I can think of is the impermenance of life, and the pain that life consists of.

>>40497914 (OP)
Your dog being dead is also an impermanence. He could be resurrected one day, by God. Or a necromancer.

>>40497914 (OP)
Because God is not inside this world duh

>>40498271
But he has control over this world? Just because he is not on earth doesn’t mean ho has no control over it.

>>40497914 (OP)
>If God
Doesn't exist. Next question.

>>40498401
just because you have control over a backwater shithole doesn't mean you will spend your time there fixing it instead of being at home

>>40497914 (OP)
> live life, be a good person, enter heaven. it's that fucking easy, no blood demon ritual necessary
whiteys be competing for pointless crap and then blame god for getting killed over pointless crap. Our father Adam had less and yet he suffered more. It's already written that every son of man will suffer as he did. Most of us will return to heaven as long as they stick to the law

>>40497914 (OP)
The price of eternal wisdom is bitterly paid at great cost, due to its paramount importance to our species and universe.

>>40498271

Yeah, about that giant cube...

god loves watching jews die and youre not delivering. its really that simple.

>>40497914 (OP)
if there's a Father that has to be murdrered by the Son to return to the Holy Spirit, but 256 people have to believe it's possible, how many can ascend?

>>40497914 (OP)
God gave us freewill and people just choose to impose their own over the others. God thought the best gift for us as their creation was to let us choose our destiny on top of all the other gifts he gave us.

What happens of this world if because of us Humans, not because of God

>>40497914 (OP)
God isn't real. All these stupid questions could easily be resolved by acknowledging the truth.

>>40497914 (OP)
God is Satan in disguise. Welcome to Hell, the world of lies and deceit.

>>40499248

Bible does say Satan is the god of this world.

Agony is Satans gift

>>40497914 (OP)
maybe its time to grow up, and stop relying on mr.god

>>40497914 (OP)
there is suffering because there is separation (from god/unity). unity is peaceful, but separation involves positive and negative feelings.
Everything is necessarily balanced.
>>40498271
God is everywhere, without divine light nothing would exist.

There is suffering because for anything other than Godhead to exist there must be separation - between differentiated parts. Inevitably those parts are different - some enjoy, some suffer.
Without suffering (almost) nothing would exist.
only 0. no positive or negative numbers.

the experience of suffering is valid, as is the ecstasy.
Suffering is not in vain - it allows joy to exist
(overall, ofc a given life may be virtually all suffering or all joy)

if you wanted your dog to never die, it would have had to never live. Arent you glad that it lived and that you loved each other?

God's love isn't based on fixed positive outcome.
God's love of separated beings (You) is self love, because God is in all (omnipresence).
God gives you freedom. Then you choose outcomes (literally everything you experience).
No need to blame God for what you manifest.

If you love a kid you let him ride his bike but he may screw up and graze his knees.

yes everything outside nirvana is experienced temporarily (i.e. separated beings experience change), yet the possibility exists eternally (i.e. the reality where your dog is alive and happy with you always exists, even though you have changed your coordinates).
beings manifest what they focus on. negative focus leads to negative outcomes.
additionally, abandoning your own power (i.e. Godspark/creative power within) makes you feel shit.
where there's a will there's a way

>>40497914 (OP)
Because we must feed to stay alive, and you humans taste so delicious.

This world is kept in an artificial state of density so that your vitality can be easily extracted and fed upon. There is no God, only the beings that call themselves as such.

“And God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten Son.”

>>40501374
6B

>>40501360
people keep themselves in an artificial state of density by not believing in their own power.

>>40501391
Silence, worm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQOmKD-sMt8

>>40497914 (OP)
Because you are looking at the reflection of others, who they choose to be and what they choose to do, instead of looking for the truth. God "allows" suffering because that is our will, to suffer, as soon as we reject suffering we cannot be touched by it.

>>40501374
" so that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

>>40501436
>"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
>Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."
i.e. you are condemned if you dont believe (in the Godlike power that stems from God being within you, God the Son is God in fragmented consciousness (You)).
But if you have faith you can have anything you want

>>40501413
But I didn’t will my dog to die? People don’t will their 5 year old to get leukaemia?

>>40501828
check your premises.
you are a fragment of Source consciousness with infinite creative power. You manifest your entire experience.
If you cant take the truth you will remain helpless.
you are assuming "I and others have no power to create their reality". that is denying God within you, essentially the worst sin.

>>40501904
Fuck off hippie. You're a hallucination. You don't exist.

>>40497914 (OP)
>Friends change into monsters, the people you love get sick or fade out of your life, life just turns into work with little free time. Everything seems to be just getting worse, on a personal as well as societal level. Why?
Because you're viewing them in their final state. You're seeing the present as the end of the story, and barring from your eyes the potential that they can reach. This outlook is satanic and without compassion.

>>40501828
You did though by willing your dog into life, all life ends in death and your desire a dog ensured that your dog would die at the end of its life. But death is a part of life, it is not separate from life, you will see your dog again but only when you accept your own end.

>>40497914 (OP)
Sabbatean Frankism.
The jews that control money worldwide follow the directives of Devi Sabbati and Jacob Frank.

Their beliefs are the result of being a human-adjacent species that has fed on human flesh and blood for millennia, and has been genetically bottlenecked at least once due to attempts at genociding them.

It is a war that will continue until one side is completely removed from the battlefield, their core does not yield or integrated, only kill, rape, and enslave.

>>40497914 (OP)
idk man! idk! hahahah !

>>40497914 (OP)
God is like Asian parents, you suffer because you don't accept your stupid because it's that your choice in the first place.
Life always fair but because we dumb so that why we think is unfair, because we don't responsible our choice and action in the first place

>>40497914 (OP)
Sorry to hear about your dog anon.
You are in pain because of your are mourning the loss of a loved pet. Try not to confuse/conflate suffering and pain. The world is not all doom and gloom. It's a balance, light/dark, yin/yang and all of that. Part of that balance is, everything that has a beginning has an end.

To answer your question of why god allows pain/suffering, it's because god loves people. God wishes to respect the free will and choices people make, and that means allowing people to choose to do things that cause suffering. To respect the choices and free will of man god has has chosen a long path approach, that is to say, allowing man to make mistakes and learn from them the hard way, even if that means they feel temporarily pain/suffering it will eventually, with time, lead to eternal happiness/love. Or at least that is my belief, YMMV. Best wishes anon

You're sad that your dog died but how many animals have you eaten? Clearly you're content with a world where animals die, so how can you blame God for giving you exactly what you want?

>>40504459
>suffering is due to free will

This is more abrahamic religious nonsense

The truth is, the abrahamic god did not create the entire planet and is not in control of outcomes

2 abrahamists will give 2 opinions
>uhh god is in control and created everything
>uhh satan/the devil rules the earth
>jk jesus christ rules the earth
>suffering is bc humans r bad
>gods not responsible for anything bad even though god controls and created all things

Its a constant bullshit cope to absolve their fake god of any responsibility whilst simultaneously granting their fake god total authority

The more accurate explanation is the abrahamic god does not actually control everything

>>40505442
God can not simultaneously be in control of everything and also be absolved of responsibility because

>uhhh free will
>uhhh unless u have demons the devil and demons can lie to you in your brain

Theism is delusion

>>40505454
>dog died because free will
>child got raped by priest bc free will
>child born with debilitating illness bc free will

>>40505442

And you have just explained why there are so many religions and offshoots of religions.
There is an "ENTITY" that is responsible for EXISTENCE.
In other words Something is responsible For what IS.
Something is responsible for REALITY.

>>40497914 (OP)
Every intelligent person has already reached the conclusion that God is either evil, non-existent, or not all-powerful. We have to fend for ourselves and each other.

>>40505442
>>40505499
Kindly please do not use the words I typed and twist them out of context into unintended meaning.
You have confused suffering and pain. Check the pic plz. Pain is something that is done onto you. Suffering is a chosen response. This is the message I was trying to communicate.

Yes, bad things can and do happen at times. This is life, it would not be life unless this happens. What's important is how (YOU) chose to respond. Will you bad things infect your mind/soul internally, get under your skin, and spoil/soil yourself with more 'bad' feelings and thoughts? This choice is yours to make.

god made himself the ultimate game. god enters into the game and plays it. for the sake of immersion, he temporarily and intentionally forgets that he's the developer and player - he believes he is the avatar.

suffering exists because it makes this game beautiful. suffering is fair because god himself has to undergo the suffering that he creates.

people like that dark souls is hard, even if it's painful when you lose.

when you die, your drop will go back into the ocean, and you'll feel "wow, what a playthrough. i want to play again."

you are god, we are all god. there is nothing that isn't god. that's the gist of it!

>>40506145
Or the boss battle is way more intense than anyone guessed

>>40497914 (OP)
>If God is loving why is there so much suffering in the world?
God is real but who said he was loving? Both suffering and bliss are part or God. To the people trying to play word games to describe God: your concept of God is very limited. You ask whether God can create a stone so heavy that He cannot lift, but you fail to realize that the logic you are using to formulate your argument is itself part of God as well. Think of the highest concept you can imagine, God's ineffability is beyond it.

>>40506145
Low iq take

>>40506145

Earth is Heaven. All of your complaints are just you being wrong about something due to ignorance. You were always in heaven. You're in heaven now but you don't know it so it seems like you're not.

Is that simple enough?
I don't know how much easier it could be.

>>40497914 (OP)
>as I blah blah blah action reaction world, poo poo pee pee

Seems more like living with a computer and the computer is dysfunctional.

>>40509840
>>40509843
>low iq
>ignorance
Keep projecting, but do not complain when reality hits you like a train. You're part of the problem btw.

>>40497914 (OP)
Solipsism and world filled with NPCs. I'm the only one real.

>>40497914 (OP)
So you can be refined as fire purges iron