What if the truth is other way around? - /x/ (#40500847) [Archived: 1075 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/9/2025, 7:29:17 PM No.40500847
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> Conspiracy theories say we are treated like cattle

What if we actually should become cattle and that's the truth covered up?

Christianity says "become sheep", Hindus worship cows, Buddhists worship cattle, Jainism worships cattle, Horses are beloved, Deer are mystical and spiritually archetipical.

>What if that's the true solution to living stress free and a satisfying life?

Making the mind as absent as possible, decreasing the vibrations, becoming nudist, vegan, impulsive and instinctive. Killing the inner monologue and ego. Ceasing creation or pushing our will at reality for the most part.

It pretty much overlaps meditation and embodies zen, nirvana, ego death, leaving the "physical world" and tossing greed away, all idly munching at plants or feed. What if the correct thing to do, is to subject and give our will away? not worrying about anything because it's not dependent on us?

What if elevated consciousness is a trap? No philosopher was ever satisfied. (Excluding maybe Buddha, at least 5 hippies, a crystal healer and maybe a few shamans)

Any truly succesful species would eventually become self sustaining careless herbivores who don't need to work a day. It makes no sense to make meat if we could somehow skew evolution or mutate ourselves to keep the same bacteria cows do in their bodies, or even better, to tune our taste so it is more pleasant to eat plants too.

Eventually in eons, a new intelligent species will emerge, take care of us, butcher us, and repeat our fate. What if that has happened already? What if intelligent societies reach peak and crumble, becoming simplified to just animals?

>Packs of predators fight for food in hunger, ending up eating rotting carion, full of greed, lacking empathy... Cows just munch the grass and mate, fulfilled, flourishing and without worry.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
6/9/2025, 7:57:38 PM No.40500975
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>>40500847 (OP)
The ancients used serpentine forms to symbolize higher energies, much as the benign bronze serpents were used by the former Egyptian priest Moses, as recounted in biblical legend. When the energies were lovelessly directed, then their snake-symbols were bad, but by no means generally so, as also millennia-old American Indian and Ancient Egyptian sacred-serpent symbolism abundantly proves.

The self is a twin, a Caduceal entity. The Sun is the unscathed portion and the Moon is the damaged portion (the left Eye of Horus that must be reconstituted as Osiris, dismembered by Set must be re-assembled to "re-member" and re-become Horus sound in both eyes).

(Change) the animal pole of the soul seeks newness and adaptation to it.

(Sameness) the vegetal pole of the soul seeks stability and reaffirmation of its patterns on higher and higher levels.

If the fallen portion cuts itself off from the unfallen portion ('isf-t) the soul finally is split so far apart that it cannot reconstitute itself, even though to reach the power of Grace unaided. But by therapeutic intervention the combined power of God/dess can reform and heal the fallen part. If this cannot be done, the soul loses its individualizing portion and the unfallen pattern awaits another but different chance for individualization.

Returning to the nature of the Self it is, as we noted, caduceal, one of the strands being feminine and the other masculine in energy: the first more stable and life-centered; the second, more wandering, errant and exploratory โ€” often leading to risk, danger and accident. Thus it is the masculine strand of the soul's caduceus that is more liable to betray love in each of us through overemphasis on curiosity and will.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
6/9/2025, 8:03:23 PM No.40500994
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>>40500975
The soul is made in the beginning from the light part and the fire part. The points of light and flame split off from the Great Light/Fire source and then reunite as an individualized light-fire soul. Each point of inflection (d2f/dt2= 0 in mathematical terms) is a point of manifestation.

If the separation is too great in a love-neglecting soul the energy is more and more out of balance. Finally there comes a point of separation, after which the fire is cut off ('isf-t, the Ancient Egyptian term for evil) from the light soul and the individualization โ€” no longer in harmonious symbiosis โ€” faces extinction and dissolution.

The purpose of the Lion Path is to bring the fire strand near enough to the unmanifest light strand, so that they can become a truly functional and interactive unit again. That is what undoing the "fall", or separation from love, means.

The re-membered Osiris (i.e. the left or Osirian strand), is now able to work with the "undamaged eye" (the Sothis-Isis strand) and so produce a caduceal blossoming: the power of the Pleromic Mercury that finally re-connects and enables awareness in the Higher Self.
LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
6/9/2025, 8:11:08 PM No.40501025
What are usually miscalled "the lower mammals" are actually beings who on the average are more love-oriented than the human species, which as a whole has been too preoccupied with mind and power games to develop love. There are, thankfully, many individual exceptions, but the fact remains that the human race, as a species, is the only species to have gone insane โ€” as the record of history overwhelmingly and consistently has shown.

What will generally happen, therefore, is that most mammals will bypass the cruel and game-playing logical mind, bent on curiosity for its own sake no matter what pain or harm is caused to others through such a self-centered pursuit. Then, those other and more swiftly evolving mammals will increasingly respond to their superconscious minds which are developing through the added concentration on love, until finally the superconscious โ€” endowed with far more intelligence than the ordinary conscious mind trapped in omissive logic โ€” will irradiate the entire being in a luminous and far-reaching intelligence.

This will eventually lead to a transformation of the molecular body into a higher non-molecular vehicle for consciousness โ€” so beautiful and competent that we can scarcely imagine it. These beings will be then much more highly evolved than the human species in its average condition.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
6/9/2025, 8:12:22 PM No.40501027
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>>40501025
Moreover, the humans who continue not putting love first are due to experience an eventual and inevitable degradation of their form into something more consistent with and reflective of the inner horror they have become โ€” a race of yuk-yuks. Unless, therefore, human beings strive diligently to work through the lower mind (dominated by the lust for power and curiosity for its own sake) they will land in an evolutionary backwash as compared with other more loving mammals, who will become beautiful, radiant and super-intelligent beings.

That same consummation awaits the plants, who on the whole tend to be even more benign than the mammals. And remember that for those humans who follow a correspondingly beauteous path, an appropriately gorgeous higher evolutionary form and consciousness is waiting.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
6/9/2025, 8:15:52 PM No.40501037
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>>40501027
It should also be remembered that after leaving the molecular body at the transition we miscall "death", each different species has its own higher therapy centers attended by its own kind of more highly evolved beings. The wolves and dogs have theirs, the felines have theirs, the dolphins have theirs, the trees theirs, and so on. Luckily, the humans also have theirs.

These facts and principles, simple and straightforward as they are, have been missed in varying degrees by the politically dominant religions of the world. Thus both Buddhism and Hinduism, although they allow Individual souls to mammals and even lower forms of animal life, dogmatically and arbitrarily assert that enlightenment or higher consciousness is not possible unless one is incarnated in human form, and often confine that prejudice to male human form only. Judaism, and its more politically powerful offshoots, Christianity and Islam, went even further in this arbitrary direction, utterly denying souls to animals.

What is so surprising is that perfectly nice people who would abhor racism in any form become so conditioned by false dogmas as to be vehemently racist when it comes to other species! Happily there are many exceptions amongst benign people. The convenient prejudice of the complete subservience of all other living beings to humans paved the way, of course, to a sanctioned mandate to plunder and pillage the earth and wreak destruction at will on all other species. And so it has been in all regions of the earth controlled by too anthropocentric creeds and cults. Plant and animal rights are far more than mere sentiment or even compassion: they are rooted in cosmic structure and process.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 8:18:38 PM No.40501044
>>40500847 (OP)
The thing is that following this teaching of "Becoming a sheep" would fit more in a context where EVERYONE turns into cattle to God (or a higher purpose)

This concept is corrupted because powerful or pity people will call themselves Shepherds, and if we give our individuality to another human instead of a God, it's just an incestuous and cannibalizing action. Because we wouldn't serve to a higher purpose or being, serve to a concept, we would serve the wish of selfish individuals who put their freewill over the rest who willingly gave them up.

And other way to see this, is that if God gave us freewill, and we gave it up, wouldn't we just scrapping God's gift? Throwing it to the trash instead of embracing it and willingly choosing to still, follow God teaching with all intent.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 8:38:58 PM No.40501108
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>>40501044
>l
OP here, but used chrome incognito which wiped my cookies and i'm not really used to posting on 4chan, not sure if it will show up by the tag

What you mention is the christian or probably masonic version of it and God as higher purpose ... but what if the thing is we shouldn't chase a higher purpose? That we shouldn't chase anything and just wait out our lives, distracted by our curiosities, arousal and playfullness of mind, you know, basic feelings and emotions, while trying to lesser harm or change we do in world completely. Instead of looking for something more - just stopping and relaxing in the state we are in, aware nothing can be done and understanding fate is inevitable so there's nothing to worry about.

Doing anything higher and willfull is against the way world was set up by whatever higher power or accident. The only thing we lack is the acceptance of the status quo and inevitable need to satisfy our bodily needs

>We will get exploited and taken advantage of in this situation, but we wouldn't mind it
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:03:17 PM No.40501212
>>40501108
Chasing higher purposes and elevating my consciousness is fun and satisfactory for me. I enjoy seeking ways to go beyond my current state. And I can always fall back down into a simpler way of life if I need to.
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Anonymous
6/9/2025, 9:09:15 PM No.40501241
>>40501212
Makes sense, sometimes i feel like society doesn't really promote that though. I love art, but i hate judgementalism and i feel stunted and unable to draw whatever i want to draw just because i still live with my parents
Anonymous
6/9/2025, 11:32:33 PM No.40501878
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Good thread bump
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:51:27 AM No.40502171
>>40501878
I love that image
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:53:57 AM No.40502179
>>40500847 (OP)
Satisfaction is death. When you don't want any more, that's when you die. All the religions and philosophies you mention were made by people that seethed with pure hatred at life- because theirs was bad compared to others. That'a all there is to it.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:29:11 AM No.40503075
>>40501878
Someone with no empathy for other living beings made this. When you see the hell the world has wreaked on the vulnerable there's no way you can see it as a paradise
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:31:19 AM No.40503086
>>40501108
Do people actually drink milk after looking at pictures like this? Ignoring the fact that it's just a fact humans shouldn't drink milk into adulthood, nor should any animal, it's incredibly cruel to force a cow to get pregnant and then suck its milk through tubes. And the health hazard, you can literally see the dirt/shit 2 inches away from the milk some people willingly drink.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:06:36 AM No.40503921
>>40503075
Yeah I honestly agree with you but its a funny image nonetheless and has the spark of greatness
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:07:25 PM No.40504978
>>40501037
The Lion isn't species-ist. It wants to survive. The same goes for the wolf, the dolphin, and the house cat.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 12:40:59 PM No.40505051
>>40500847 (OP)
Nice try glowie.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 1:32:29 PM No.40505199
>>40500847 (OP)
Animals have a sense of wholeness that most humans lack. Animals are wholly unconscious while human minds are split between conscious and unconscious. This split causes untold amounts of misery to the individual and one of the ways to fix that is in fact to return the conscioussness where it came from. Another way, a far more superior one in my opinion, is to elevate the rest of you and turn yourself into a wholly, completelly conscious person. You will find that this is what most religions are trying to teach you.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:27:21 PM No.40505353
>>40500847 (OP)
The problem is that "people" like you exist.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:33:43 PM No.40505369
From a spiritual perspective, I'd rather be the one on the altar than the one holding the sacrifice.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:43:16 PM No.40506758
>>40500847 (OP)
the high adepth satanists are shitting themselves from laughter and crying while reading this absolute dirt level IQ post. you deserve to be what they think you are. fucking hell. actually that would be an insult to the dirt.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:49:46 PM No.40506804
This is my greatest fear, that spiritual enlightenment makes you taste the best to the loosh demons.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:02:45 PM No.40506882
>>40503086
>you can literally see the dirt/shit 2 inches away from the milk some people willingly drink.
>Anon is unaware of filtration and pasteurization
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:03:31 PM No.40507496
>>40500847 (OP)
Bro cattle porn is on /d/
Psyonide
6/11/2025, 4:59:03 AM No.40509348
>>40500847 (OP)
>What if elevated consciousness is
Hmm. You know, it is within my power to attract millions of hypnotic puppets
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:06:08 AM No.40509390
>>40500847 (OP)
>>What if that's the true solution to living stress free and a satisfying life?
There was a philosopher in Odysseus's crew that thought the same thing.
He lamented being turned back into human
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 4:56:07 PM No.40511706
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>>40509390 (OP HERE FROM MY PHONE)

odyssey book 10 > they were pigs not sheep btw, fitting conspiracy theories about humans and pigs being related

" And with wailing they spoke to me winged words: โ€œโ€˜At thy return, O thou fostered of Zeus, we are as glad [420] as though we had returned to Ithaca, our native land. But come, tell the fate of the others, our comrades.โ€™ โ€œSo they spoke, and I answered them with gentle words: โ€˜First of all let us draw the ship up on the land, and store our goods and all the tackling in caves. [425] Then haste you, one and all, to go with me that you may see your comrades in the sacred halls of Circe, drinking and eating, for they have unfailing store.โ€™ โ€œSo I spoke, and they quickly hearkened to my words.

>Eurylochus alone sought to hold back all my comrades, [430] and he spoke, and addressed them with winged words: โ€œโ€˜Ah, wretched men, whither are we going? Why are you so enamoured of these woes, as to go down to the house of Circe, who will change us all to swine, or wolves, or lions, that so we may guard her great house perforce? [435] Even so did the Cyclops, when our comrades went to his fold, and with them went this reckless Odysseus. For it was through this man's folly that they too perished.โ€™ "

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> According to this part of the Odyssey and what comes later in book10, it's a good temporary solution to regain the "lost spirit and wit", but I'm pretty sure that's because they feared death on the adventure, since everything so far has tried to kill them and they craved comfort like nothing else

Is being comfortable instead of work comparable to turning into animals? Chasing no higher will. A necessary thing to cure exhaustion, after chasing said will, to cope the nature of being sentient animals with craving for achievement... Many people live their lives burdened with constant need to better themselves- end up with anhedonia while seeking higher mind,

Maybe it's reason to submit to nature and be animals until feeling better
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 12:43:59 AM No.40513899
>>40511706
I'd go for it if we had evidence of plantgirl gf.