>Logic (Binah), Strength (Gewurah) and Discipline (Hod) are on the feminine/mother side of the tree
>Intuition (chochmah) and Unconditional love (Chesed) are on the masculine/father side of the tree

What's all this troon shit? It's ass backwards.

In the esoteric arts, there can be a lot of nuance. On one level, it would be as you said. On another, the opposite may be true. Logic, strength and discipline for example exist only on the plane of manifestation, they belong in creation. Spiritual intuition and absolute love on the other hand belong to the superior domain of Being, which ushers in creation. So it is possible to identify those with masculinity too. Like Shiva, who is "passive" with respect to Shakti only in a very specific way.
IDK anything about Kabbalah lol.

>>40501542 (OP)
>It's ass backwards.
The classic Jewish Tree of Life is displayed from Satan's perspective. The structures are still correct, but the labels are wrong.

>>40501542 (OP)
You Intuit the methodology of survival, this becomes the foundations for logic and ordering the cosmos.
Holding unconditional love when piercing the veil is how you best apply logic to an esoteric framework of value.
I disagree with your interpretation of strength as Gewurah, my understanding was more it was about mastery, and learning how to maintain love amidst a newfound plateau of experience could be an expression of mastery.
Why cut out Netzach though? As the cosmos realigns itself in the new balance achieved from Tiphareth there will naturally be some things that simply succumb to gravity and fall away, making space for the new discipline necessary for a newly balanced world.

Male - active, creative, expanding
Female - passive, receptive, restricting

>>40501542 (OP)
why would the masculine have to learn what was given to it? you see what it lacks and has to learn/integrate
im not a kabbalah schizo tho

>>40501542 (OP)
>When my rat familiar gets a little funny when I start learning about the Kabbalah

"Chesed to meet you! :3"

>>40501542 (OP)
You're not going to make a lot of progress with a closed off media mindset like that. This is not something everyone can put to use after a couple of years of understanding it logically, it might take a decade until you manage to see the correlations of this blueprint in your own life and get value out of it.
I've been into qabala for 10 years and it is only now starting to have impact.

Let me help you on your specific question.
The feminine in occult terms is something that is settled, it is room. Logic as an abstract concept simply is. The destructive force of Gevurah and knowledge as emanations of Binah are as well in a way. It kind of just "lays there".
The positive/masculine energies produce an impact on the feminine force. The feminine force transmutes this impact and births something new.

>>40501565

>nuance

Nuance ... pff. Just flip the damn tree!! If it still does not fit it is wrong. If it does everyone else simply is a fag.

>>40501812
Haha xD

Bumb

>>40501542 (OP)
It's nonsense because you have ridiculously wrong translations of most of the terms.

>>40501873
New
Fuck have you looked around?
Everything is a rehash of rehash or rehashed remastered final mix bullshit

Ffs humanity is on COD7 ffs.....

>>40501542 (OP)
>Feminine and masculine
That's because feminine and masculine are not the true primordial binary.

Rather, that's "active" and "passive", which are the principles that CREATE our physical sexes when applied to biology.

What a fun thing to notice.
Yes, the Tree is misaligned. That's on purpose. The whole entire assortment of ideas and teachings present in the modern Occult world, just like everything else, is scrambled, meant for you to untangle the different loops and bends.
I like where Malkuth, Da'ath and Kether are, for the record. I just don't agree that Severity relates to Binah instead of Chockmah, for one. Even though Geburah should relate to Severity, it requires Wisdom/Chockmah to utilize, not mere Binah/Insight.
This is only how I personally order things, however. Keep in mind that when you learn someone else's system, it means not developing your own, which also means not having your own process and just using someone else's system. For all of you out there who haven't fallen into the "just do this for twenty years and then you'll get it lol" trap, having your own system means you can't really perform the system "wrong" in contrast. However, especially for a beginner, it's very easy to perform someone else's system wrong and sometimes it's very easy to do for all or even most of your life.

Its all junk
All this crap is made up

>>40501662
The jewish tree of life is inverted and rooted in the holohoax, while they commit genocides worldwide to maintain their position.

They water their tree of death with human blood and suffering.

>>40505463
All this crap was literally observed in the universe around us.

I was just saying elsewhere: Even in the early universe, the swirl of gasses that accidentally concentrated here and there were the "Natzach" that gave birth to the "Hod" of stars.

It used to be that "Gebura" was simply "I kill you and take your shit", but then the first person started to have mercy, giving birth the Chesed and starting to shift the norms of Gebura closer to what we would recognize as "fairness".

>>40505480
And there's literally nothing jewish about it.
You might as well say nuclear science is jewish, while you're at it, if just discovering something makes it yours forever.

>>40501542 (OP)
Jews are matriarchal devil worshippers, everything they do is intentionally ass-backwards and oriented towards the earthly, all the way down to hellish existence.

>>40505578
Yes, clearly this is how somebody talks when they have all the keys to enlightenment...

>>40501542 (OP)
It's that a project moon reference?!

>>40501565
Fpbp
>>40505450
This anon gets it the whole point imo is to have the Holy Spirit unveil the mysteries for you personally as a reward for your constant contemplation so that it the tree of life may be ate and digested by your framework to advance and improve it until it aligns with gods framework which makes reality a language that can be read so you always have your eye in the meta which makes the game so much easier and magical
If you know the Way broadly you will see it in everything
Also on the muh Jews conversion all religions where just made to gaslight and control the normies into not being savages while keeping alive sacred secrets hidden within the traditions for the wise whom are always born amongst retards to elevate themselves above the chaff into a hidden ancient order that has always been in plain sight

>>40505668
Don’t expect anyone here to know anything about the moon
Thats late game shit

I’ll give a hint though
>>40505437
It’s not active and passive it’s active and receptive
And another name for kaballah is reception
I put a cube on my head but don’t call me a cube head

>>40505716
I would call "receptive" a subset of "passive".

Cuz here's the thing, AASB, active and passive are very literally the "1" and "0" that make up the universe, like computer binary.
And what that 1 and 0 also have in common with computer binary is that the 0 is LITERALLY NOTHING and is only an "existence" in any meaningful way when given context by its opposite 1/"active principle" (and in that context the principles become co-equal).

So like... I'd say that you arrive at "receptivity" once you expressive the passive principle built ATOP a certain amount of active foundation. (the active principle being necessary in some degree for there to BE a receptive "thing" to begin with).

>>40505716
>>40505734
Btw, just to give a direct example of the abstraction I'm talking about:

Womanhood is the passive principle EXPRESSED as "receptivity" because the passive principle is being expressed ATOP the active foundation of "organism" that is shared by men and women.

>>40505596
Stating the self-evident without fear is a sign of enlightenment, yes.

>>40505758
You do not understand what it is for a thing to be "self-evident".
That is well above your intellectual pay-grade.

And ironically, that is me stating the self-evident without fear.

>>40505768
Actually no, that's you being a salty Jew kvetching after being called out for your obsessive-compulsive inversion of roles and resorting to strawmanning as is custom when your kind cannot refute things.

>>40505734
It’s a trinity 0 is the middle pillar which split into +1 and -1 so it could play between but really it’s more like -1 the infinite contracted it’s self 0 so that it could play as +1 the finite
Semantics though

Circumcision is an extreme form of child abuse.
The Talmud advocates sex with three year olds.
Israel has the highest child molester per capita rate of the world.
Dark Triad traits are cultivated by the Jews.
Money lending is a parasitical activity.

>>40505792
>-1 vs 0
I have to disagree for this reason: The left side of the ToL always has the effect of "maintaining", NOT "pulling us backwards". That's a 0, not a -1.

The left and right sides are each pure, but contradictory forms of "Good". The left maintains while the right pulls us forward.
Its not the kind of "balance" that would keep us still forever. Its a balance that moves us forward.

>>40505787
Protip: The self-evidence of your wretchedness lies in your inability to say anything positive about anything.

You are nothing, and so all you can do is try to tear down others, even as you mislabel everyone because you're also irrational and paranoid.

Void (0)
Unbounded expansion (+1)
Unbounded contraction (-1)
Bounded existence (+1 | -1)

>>40505820
0 is just a canvas blank state
If 0 is the middle it is the receptive force that creates
like a mother taking seed to birth life
giving the left side the - taking of seed and the right the + life made of which
Aka how the external is a product of the internal

But I see it more as the middle being -1 the pull while the right is the canvas 0 and left +1
And these roles have layers that layer into
Each other

Binah is nominalist, word-based, understanding. Chokhmah is deep knowing. Example: you see a plate with three coins, you *know* they are three. You see a plate with a bunch of coins, you count them, then you *understand* there are 20 coins.

Gewurah and Chesed introduce judgement: beautiful/ugly, good/bad, etc. Gewurah is judging, Chesed is accepting.

Hod and Netzach respectively introuce action and inaction.

Everyone participates of the masculine and feminine. But think of men and women and ask yourself which ones think more in terms of words without much understanding, which ones judge all the time, and which ones are constantly acting (consoom, travel, etc.). Of course a man also uses words, judges and acts, but in a much more tempered and definitive manner.

>>40505959
>>40505959
>Of course a man also uses words, judges and acts, but in a much more tempered and definitive manner.
Right, because of Chokhmah's temperance. Insight doesn't mean you act with more Justice or Temperance; it means you act with understanding, with emotional/cognitive union. That's why the Chaotic Feminine is erratic and the Orderly Masculine is more controlled or measured and thereby acts less, conserves energy and speaks more strongly.

>>40505914
I should add the external and internal feed off each other
Such is the union of opposites and there creation from such friction

>>40505914
>0 is just a canvas blank state
Until its contrasted against 1, and then it becomes half of everything.

>like a mother taking seed to birth life
But there can be no meaningful receptivity of motherhood until its built atop the ACTIVE principle of Life.

Cuz its not that the mother is a 0, but before she's pregnant, 0 is the number of babies inside her. That's "receptivity". Its an empty cup. But the cup itself is "something".

>>40505692
Well, no neccesarily that moon but I'll rode with that good sir.

>>40506032
There can be no active principal of life without the receptive principle of consciousness
The active principal the demiurge is an inversion of the receptive principal Sophia made from the shadows of 0 Sophia’s contemplation on that which can’t be contemplated kaos the infinite nothing the 0 which means a gape
It is the act of it reality as we know it making the infinite zero finite through +1 via its contemplation-1
Basically all of life is the infinite nothingness -1 contemplation of its existence nothingness 0 making itself finite +1

It’s the whole wave function collapse where infinite probability’s zero in on one finite outcome via observation

A Buddhist way to look at this is that there was 0
0 had desire making it -1
-1 desire desired to escape this desire making reality +1
To escape +1 one must realize they are -1 which ultimately leads to 0 the maker of both + and - as relativity time story itself
And the fear and aww of 0 is just the beginning which was always the end

Enjoy:)

>>40506081
>There can be no active principal of life without the receptive principle of consciousness
Not so!
"Everything that is moved is moved by soul", and that principle predates consciousness in the material.

Besides, you aren't accounting for how things build atop each other like a ladder.

Lower-level active and passive principles COME TOGETHER to make the higher order active principles in the pattern of the Tetragrammaton.

So for life, that's roughly the active element of chemical activity with the passive element of entropy, reconciling into the UNIFIED synergy of "self-sustaining activity", and then that new dynamic becomes the NEW ACTIVE PRINCIPLE of "Life".

And then further active and passive elements influence and develop that further.

>>40506219
Oh, and then obviously the opposite of LIFE is when entropy destroys the underlying dynamics in some way, resulting in the passive principle of DEATH.

So rest in grace glory the -1 reception submission am of 0
Or participate in strength nature the +1 dominance force i of 0
Both have there ups and downs and both just are as I am

>>40506219
Consciousness is soul logic is spirit which comes from the material and goes back to it which is how things build each other not just biologically but memetically which biology is a product of

And nothing is passive in reality but 0 aka nothing and that’s outside of reality it just also happens to make up all of reality which is why I understand all the confusion

>>40506274
>And nothing is passive in reality
Correction: Nothing is the ONLY THING in reality that's FULLY passive.

>>40506314
That’s not a correction you’re just repeating what I said in other words

>>40506320
No, its a *reframing* of what you said to view "nothingness" as an actual element of the universe.

Cuz seriously, think: "Receptivity" is not the OPPOSITE of activity, so why would they form the most primordial binary?

>>40501542 (OP)

>>40505959
Where did you learn this from? Recommend books

True divinity/godhood is to be all things, this means to be both masculine and feminine at the same time.

Alpha males came first, crude things, beta males came next, beta, better, next iteration.
Delta humanity is the peak of evolution, embrace a world of only femboys, futanari, and cis femdoms.

The Jewish state depends on pedophile entrapment networks to gather dirt on the world's politicians. They don't know jack shit about spirituality other than how to capitalize on others' base desires and everyone in history was right about them.

>>40501723
You have "restricting" and "expanding" mixed up.

>>40507744
He simply observed reality. You should too.

>>40507903
I'm pretty sure the jews you hate have always viewed Kabballah as a heretical offshoot.

Again, its like when you guys call Lilith a "Jewish demon" as if jews hating her makes her "one of them"?

>>40501542 (OP)
It's because you're interpreting it through classical gender roles when it's more about archetypal dynamics. The right side of the tree is active/giving, it is considered masculine. The left side of the tree is receptive/containing, that's considered feminine.

Chokhmah is wisdom, intuitive insight and potential, Chesed is kindness, love and generosity and Netzach is eternity/victory, it's represented by endurance, ambition and drive/passion, it's the "animalistic" sphere and for this reason it has sexual undertones, but they're animalistic sexual undertones linked to reproduction, survival and beauty.

Binah is understanding, structure, logic and containment, Binah is the womb of creation and she gives form to the insights from Chokhmah, it nurtures ideas into form. Gevurah is severity, discipline, restriction and strength OF WILL, it's the energy that represents all boundaries and limitations. Hod is glory, intellectual clarity, humility and the ability to reflect.

All the sephirot are emanations from Keter so te picture of the tree is just a way of dissecting Keter's components, it's a visual aid. In reality all these spheres or energies would be comprised into Keter as a single point or singularity. And all the paths in between (the netivot) would form a field around Keter when everything's collapsed in it. The netivot transport the different energies of these spheres as they form a field, and all these energies flowing together is what forms reality.

>>40501542 (OP)
You know the left brain controls the right side of your body, and the right brain controls the left side of your body, right anon?

>>40507863
>this means to be both masculine and feminine at the same time.
To be clear, we do not, very specifically, mean to physically embody both genders. We mean, instead, to be extremely clear, something mental and/or spiritual. For an alternative, if you want to include any physical depiction, you include the Man, the Clay, the Vessel, with the Divine. There is no physical androgynous being at any point being referred to. Any and all references of trannies is explicitly wrong. You should not mutilate yourself, anyone else or even suggest, especially to a child, that this is a reasonable choice. If you're undermining, in any capacity, a child's perspective of their own gender, you are atrophying Nature, mentally torturing a child and subjecting further generations to repeats of this heinous treatment, ultimately leading to suicide in just about all cases.
>muh alpha and beta
This is a psyop meant to demoralize you. Humanity requires balance. Women necessarily practice hypergamy. Be an adult about it. You're not a supermodel and you probably don't actually want one. It's like owning a mansion; it sure sounds fun until you have to clean it, pay the bills to upkeep it, decorate it and so on.

>>40508518
Is that what I'm missing here >>40505450, anon?

>>40508523
>To be clear, we do not, very specifically, mean to physically embody both genders. We mean, instead, to be extremely clear, something mental and/or spiritual.
Its best through of as a "perspective".

>>40508761
>that's just your opinion
The alternative is mental illness and becoming a statistic.

>>40501542 (OP)
Pagan Kabbala Mysticism is not true Jewish Practice

>>40509316
That's great but "Talmud" meant "Teachings" and it wasn't written in reference to who you think modern "Jews" are today. In fact, "Ancient Hebrew" wasn't even around until a few hundred years before Jesus, when Ptolemy commissioned the translations from the Septuagint.
The Tree of Knowledge/Life concept pervades all systems and the idea that the Kabbalah is owned by people wearing funny hats is absurd. Even if they claim a localized creation (the best the can boast), Cabbala has undoubtedly become much more refined. The notion that Hebrew is some super old language that's more powerful than any other is absurd.
I'd be delighted to flood the thread with additional reasons that "jews" aren't who they claim to be though, like listing their allergies and other biological limitations which disprove ancient ties to supposedly ancestral lands, like their ability to metabolize certain animal products or a lack of sophisticated, supremely related animal husbandry practices which were pervasive cultural fixations in basically all other places familiar to the story told in the region as other regions.

I think for me hod and netzach are very difficult to understand. They just seem redundant with binah and chesed already there. Also no one talks about the middle ones

>>40509569
That's because on each pillar the sephirot are refined as you climb. Netzach is the most unrefined version of Chokhmah and Chesed. The sephirot in the middle pillar are balancing the dynamics on both sides. For example Da'at (even though it doesn't exist as sephira in traditional kabbalah) is the dynamics that emerges as knowledge and awareness when Binah (understanding) and Chokhmah (wisdoms) touch in the middle pillar.

Tifaret balances the dynamics of the three sephirot at each side, so Tifaret is a synthesis of those six sephirot. Yesod balances Malkut, Hod and Netzach.

>>40510397
I shouldn't have just said that they're unrefined versions of the "upper" sephirot. A more concrete description would be that they express the same archetypal energy but at different levels of condensation and application.

>>40501542 (OP)
Men and women become more like the other as the body is deemphasized. The new traits, opposite the base traits, are closer to the forefront of the mind, as they are less instinctual. And the sephirot is really, all about the mind.
So like, men are strong.But women have to BE strong.
But yes, its completely ass backwards.