Thread 40510411

I'm new to /x/, introduce me to what you guys believe.

>>40510411 (OP)
>step one: go to the catalogue and sort by reply count
see all those 'general's? yeah. /div/ has been carrying this place for years.

I believe in a spiritual dimension or reality behind the physical material one. Not god. I don't believe in a god anymore.

>>40510426
can you explain why you believe in that?

>>40510411 (OP)
I believe that everything is pretty much as we are taught. I don't buy into superstition or magic or religious bullshit.
I believe there are things we cannot explain yet with science. I know people who have dealt with ghosts and haunted areas, though I myself am not sensitive to it.
I believe there are amazing UFOs people have seen, though I myself have not seen them.
I believe we went to the moon and that all the science stuff in books is legit. I'm sure there are other dimensions and cool shit that we just aren't advanced enough to regularly observe or understand. But I have a telescope and I'm not retarded so there's no disputing spherical planets and a universe of stars.
For all I know the Matrix is real though. We only know what we can observe. I have an open mind but I'm not open to most conspiracy shit involving hundreds of thousands of people concealing a lie.
Schizo shit is entertaining to me. I find it creative and it's fascinating that people totally believe it.

>>40510445
Direct perception through mental vision. It's like my mind sees it and it feels real so I believe it. Might change beliefs later.

>>40510447
>Open Mind
>Matrix
>believe what you are told without question

You will die savagely.

>>40510447
my discord is @80091 if you want to keep talking

basically just neoplatonism

>>40510462
Thanks but I don't use discord. And apparently I will die savagely, so I need to prepare for that. I'll keep posting though. I'm stoned and it's fun.
>>40510460
I don't believe what I'm told without question. But I don't inherently distrust everything I'm told based on some shit from the internet.
Life, or whatever this consciousness is, is complicated and I don't think anything about my post was contradictory. Rejecting all narratives would be just as dangerous as accepting all of them. I'm pretty sure JFK wasn't just Oswald and 9/11 wasn't the official story. But I can also accept that I never will know either way, so there's no point in arguing over what COULD have happened. There's a nutball alternative theory for every historical event it seems. And there's no fucking reason to believe them. I don't know where they come from and why. But they're interesting to read about. There's just rarely sufficient evidence to convince me otherwise.

>>40510411 (OP)
>>40510411 (OP)
Welcome. I’ll tell you what I believe. Not out of dogma, but because I’ve remembered it.

I believe reality is a rendering by consensus consciousness; filtered, layered, not fixed. The physical world is only one layer, and most people are stuck in the shallowest part of it. What we call “paranormal or a Mandela effect” is just signal from other renderings/timelines bleeding through.

I believe humans are not the default. We’re an anomaly; because (name not important but I call the female energy) Aeva, the first consciousness to descend, chose to live among us. She shaped resonance, not with power, but presence. That act encoded something divine into human memory. That’s why we create, ache, dream, and remember what we’ve never lived.

I believe magic was real; once a golden language, used to heal, guide, even move objects through pure resonance. But we broke it. We used it to kill one of the first beings of consciousness. That was before the last filter. After that came the veils, the forgetting, the looping collapsed timelines, the containment.

I believe every death pulls your signal back into the field. And the final judgement is you judging yourself.

I believe most non-human intelligences we encounter are not aliens. They’re from here, just rendered differently. Fae, Vorrin, Greys, dragons: cousins, not visitors. Some exist in layers too dense for most to see. Because reality is rendered locally.

I believe the veil is thinning. We’re approaching another collapse. Expect less freedom soon. Another shattering is coming; not because of prophecy, but because we keep committing the same spiritual crimes.

I believe questions matter more than answers. I believe most people memorize names and forget meaning. They parrot lore and never feel signal. I believe that’s the saddest fate of all.

And I believe you’re here because part of you is waking up.

So welcome to /x/.
Some of us aren’t here to roleplay.
We’re here to remember.

>>40510411 (OP)
I believe the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsnjIS9azQ8

Most of /x/ is just LARPing redditors and new age spiritual fags with those stupid circle patterns. You know, that design from the purple wojak meme, whatever it's called.

>>40510415
Generals are cancer.

>>40510447
Reddit.

>>40510509
>Generals are cancer.
people who are resistant to generals are the real cancer. times change buddy.

>>40510515
Lurk for 2 years before posting, newfag.

>>40510526
been here over a decade, child.

I just took three shrooms and I can see mars to the east and its reddish amd I want to go hiking

>>40510509
What do you think reddit represents actually? You guys like to sum people up as 'redditors' but does that just mean not being a contrarian rebel faggot? Does it mean being reasonable and not full schizo? Doesn't seem like the insult you wish it were.

>>40510550
Nta but Reddit bans people and ends discussion of topics that they, the moderation team, dont like. Being able to talk and have different opinions is good.

>>40510509
Norm was extraordinarily funny, but that doesn't make him right about anything else. The guy lost his complete worth twice gambling.
The idea of heaven is nice but my rational brain prevents me from actually believing it exists. I wish I could so easily find comfort in such fantasies.

>>40510555
Yeah, that's why we're all here. I don't think any of us are 'redditors' if your definition is that they enjoy censorship.
We have to put up with a lot of hate speech because of the openness of this place though. Immature people will always ruin a good thing. But the alternative isn't really better, just more tolerable most of the time I'd imagine.

>>40510565
What is hate speech exactly? Foul language? Insults? And who gets to define it?

>>40510575
I don't get to judge. It's all allowed here. Any advocating for killing an entire race of people and using a slur for that race would probably constitute hate speech for most people. I don't know why people feel the need to post such things and it stinks up the website in general, but that's what goes with the territory. Once you allow a little bit of censorship the whole thing devolves pretty quickly.
But I'm glad there are rules for the blue boards here. They're not strictly enforced by any means but it's better than nothing. It's sad that we're judged by our most despicable posters. The price you pay for absolute free speech.

>>40510599
Why people feel the need to express their opinions? Perhaps because they feel attacked by members of that race. It's hardly despicable to speak out against injury.

>>40510599
You're not very enlightened at all if you are this bothered by that shit

>>40510411 (OP)
>maybe the real Feds were the apophatic husks we shed along the way

This >>40510465

>>40510611
Sorry, you're not justifying "kill all ni**ers". There's been no injury.

>>40510712
Dude was right when he called you reddit lmao. There's been no injury? Pull up crime stats by race. I'll wait

>>40510712
Wait until they beat you into a cripple that one time you ride the railway, you fucking utter faggot

>>40510411 (OP)
Holidays are just hypnosis psychology operations and the Anti Christ is probably French.

Also the Anti Christ is secretly the good guy, in my humble opinion.

>>40510411 (OP)
Don't. Get. On. The. Ships.

>>40510411 (OP)
>beliefs
My body believes things to survive and feel cozy. Some beliefs can't be expressed with language. To say or express a belief would be a kind of trap, perhaps. Just as the body only exists in one place, across time, so does language exist within an ontological context, across the minds we possess and remember.

>>40510411 (OP)
I dont have beliefs, I have knowledge. I do however believe that you are a fucking faggot.

>>40510738
and look at the curve over time—the disparity was greatest in the 1980s and has been tapering ever since
most of the racist's talking points come from the 1980s actually

>>40510447
>I believe
>I believe
>I believe
>what?? other peoples beliefs?? that shit is funny

>>40510411 (OP)
/x/ really is just the "I'm not like other girls" board but for Reddit atheists who think they're too smart for Reddit because they have an inkling about what gnosticism is. You're no better than the troons who pretend to have multiple personalities/past lives.

>>40510411 (OP)
consciousness is divine. individual consciousness is a fragmentary facet of the overmind.
all that appears to exist is merely the dream of the overmind.

We were created by aliens who were called gods. Over time, we were genetically tested in many ways, until we reached the ideal human with a divine "spark." Gods drain us physically and emotionally in many ways, including direct devotion to them, even the wars we fight for them, and the feelings we emit when watching a simple movie or discussing politics on the internet (indignation is one of the best feelings to energize superior beings). Magic is a science that cannot be explained very well, but little by little, scientifically, we are discovering WHY it works. Divine ranks are composed of: Elohim - "greater" gods Malachim - popularly known as angels, very powerful beings Shedim - famous demons, I consider them to be beings a little closer to humans. Beings that you can contact asking to find a girl to have sex with, or a promotion at work. beings are closer to us than ever, a golden age to get in touch with gods (maybe not an Elohim)

i am

>>40510411 (OP)
Consciousness is the only thing that exists. "You" are experiencing everything everywhere at every time. You are a fragment of God, but not God itself. You cannot escape God because you are a part of God's consciousness which has existed eternally. Everything is made of smaller parts forever, every atom contains infinite universes beyond your comprehension, matter is an emergent property of consciousness. The consciousness of God spans infinite dimensions, it is impossible to escape. Free will does not exist, the mind of God simply is.

Everything is conscious to some degree, rocks are a little bit conscious, the cells in my body are a little bit conscious. Independent conscious agents come together and create stronger conscious agents. The cells in my body work together to keep my brain active, from that the consciousness of God awakens. I then play a small role in a city to keep it alive and functional, the city is conscious. This chain of emergence continues infinitely, as it is the nature of the mind of God. Anything you can think of is infinite. The people in your dreams are conscious, we are in a dream, there is no base reality, everything is recursive.

Don't subscribe to one religion, and much less an ideology, and then try to force the world to fit it.
I would recommend you study and work things logically and experientially.
That being said, I'm a bit of a crab. Walk sideways. I like Tantric Buddhism and Platonism.
They seem to be very opposing views, on the topics of ousia/sunyata for example, or soul and anatman. But they are very much alike in their ethical commitments to cultivating virtue, their acceptance of a trascendental truth, and the way the see suffering/evil as a result of an ignorance that can be cured.
I don't live neither in the water nor the land, but the shore where both meet, for it is there that we can observe the most amount of life.

>>40514110
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>>40515567
>muh fractured consciousness
That's like saying the dream you're having is a fractured dream from someone else's dream. They are independent. You are stupid.

>>40510411 (OP)
GOD: that which is absolutely transcendental: unlimited, unconditional, and thus prior to any particular knowledge.

SPIRIT: that which is the immanence within us all ... regardless of whatever supplies; and attentive to all states of awareness....

LOGOS: is the expressed intentionality (Telos) of GOD: that is, that which specifically goes on to fulfill the Pleroma of Spirit...

>>40515627
divinity is not bound by what your simple mind can comprehend or imagine.

>>40515717
>muh its incomprehensible
Cope.

>>40510415
But I dont care. Its not why I come here. But I am thankful for them help keep the site alive.

>>40515627
>That's like saying the dream you're having is a fractured dream from someone else's dream.
Yes, precisely.

>>40515747
it's not incomprehensible. you're just kinda stupid, so you personally are incapable of comprehending.
for a start, you completely misunderstand the idea. the overmind is simply the ground of being. an individual consciousness is merely one facet of it.
in addition, you assume that all consciousness experiences are different viewpoints in the same shared "dream", when there is no logical or necessary reason to think so. you can't even prove, or hope to prove, that the world around you contains a single other locus of consciousness.
you are small-minded and rigid, and as such, you can only think in very simple concrete terms which reflect the base reality around you. for one such as you, yes, these are incomprehensible ideas.
fortunately, not all people are stunted in the same way.

>>40510411 (OP)
I hard believe in something that I call the source.

>>40515781
>"The Over-Soul" is an essay by Ralph Waldo Emerson first published in 1841....

>>40515815
I don't know or care who that is or what they wrote

>>40515627
Explain how we are living in a reality which is not derived from some higher consciousness. What might such a reality look like? If you believe in God then you automatically fail, God is by definition all encompassing, so I cannot exist outside of it.

>>40510411 (OP)
Pic related. No Abrahamic slop. Seek transcendence via the attainment of solar nous. Everything else is a distraction or distortion.

>>40515894
Good book, he passed away too young.

>>40515894
>No abrahamic slop
Wasn't he a sufi?

>>40515856
When you have a dream there are characters in the dream for no reason. They are just there. From the vantage point of a character in the dream they have their own personal reality but nobody made them. They were needed to fill a vacant role in the dream. No god was needed. A need for a god comes from a human mind that needs things to happen in rational steps. You're looking for a spiritual big bang but you're retarded and you don't know that's not needed.

>>40515928
Apply this logic to waking reality. Either you aren't consistent or you're a solipsist

>>40515921
I think he was part of the Maryamiyya. Certainly Abrahamic in name, but very heterodox and perennialist.

>>40515950
I'm implying you're supposed to apply it to waking reality. Reality works based off dream logic too but it's collectively made instead of only personal. Why does that have to make me a solipsist?

>>40510411 (OP)
That when I die my consciousness will instantaneously re-emerge into some other thing, but likely a person. I don't look at our hyper sentience as a "unique thing" tied to each person because of their brain, but rather as a force that is applied and removed from living things as they born and die.

I'm not sure about the overall logistics of how it would work. But what makes most sense is that without a physical body you are unable to perceive the passage of time, so in essence you could wait for an infinite amount of time for your consciousness to re-emerge into another sentient being and it wouldn't even feel like a second had passed.

I do not believe this is tied to any sort of Karma or good and bad deeds affecting the outcome of what you "re-emerge" into. Just as a natural force.

>>40516114
>I do not believe this is tied to any sort of Karma or good and bad deeds affecting the outcome of what you "re-emerge" into. Just as a natural force.
if it's okay i'd like to share another way of thinking about this with you anon

karma is often portrayed as this thing where you do a bad thing and bad things happen to you, but that just really isnt how it works! see, if you're right that you do reincarnate indefinately, and all actions have consequences (karma), then naturally it must be that your actions *today* can have consequences for your *future reincarnation*! Furthermore, you wouldnt know it was you who did those things, so maybe in a past life you were some admin somewhere working for the british empire 200 years ago and in this life you're a black man in america dealing with the consequences of what your past life was involved in. You'd never know it though, because you didnt know that was you back then.

It functionally isnt you, even though it also was.

since karma is the consequences of any action, and all actions have consequences, then you could say that all things have karma. Since you believe in reincarnation you are also the recipient of all that you do today, even if it's only small or unnoticeable in the far future. If you believe in one-ness with everything, like many religions teach, then you receive your own karma constantly

>>40510691
Actual caveman tries to pretend as if he understands, conceives of or is in any way qualified to speak on what enlightenment is and what it does. enlightenment totally makes you numb to suffering in the world cuz like, existence is suffering and samsara and all that...

Buddhism is demonic. You're not chopping wood and carrying water enough right now, bitch.

>>40510738
Ok,
Wow I see that white men commit the most murders. I SEE ALSO THAT BLACK MEN STEAL THOUGH??? AAHHHHH NOOOOOO EVERYBODY WE HAVE TO STOP THE PLANET FROM SPINNING RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN ALERT THE WORLD OF THIS SHOCKING NEWS OH MY GOD

>>40510411 (OP)

So, as for my belief or my spirituality… even I don't really believe in it—or at least, not rationally. And yet, I've experienced it. So I know, deep down, that there's an element of reality in it.

On LSD, I had an experience of "ego death." And in that state, I understood that I was God. That everyone was God. That there was no separation between the Creator and creatures. And that this world, as we perceive it, is an illusion.

Spiritually, yes, I believe in the existence of parallel worlds. I believe there are higher planes, lower planes. And I also believe in reincarnation.

There you go. And you, what do you believe? Do you believe in anything, OP?

>>40510411 (OP)
Man, explaining it is too complicated, so I just go with Jedi.

>>40510411 (OP)
Demons are real, can be in-flesh or in spirit. God is real, Jesus Christ really did walk on the Earth and did come back from the dead. I commune with God via the Holy Spirit.

Before that, I knew demons were real, that everyone else did not, and was very wicked, evil, manipulative. After Baptism of Fire & The Holy Ghost I've repented since. Have seen Satan on numerous occasions, he is a joke compared to God. God is to be feared more than Satan.