Rev. Ike Edition
Seriously, check out Rev. Ike, he's really good.

>>Main lectures:
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardWorkbooks/1939_at_your_command/page/n25/mode/1up
>>freedoom for all
https://archive.org/details/freedomforallmet0000godd
>>97 (Dead) other lecture(just click on pdf to see which you want)
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddard002/imagination_creates_reality/page/n4/mode/1up

>Neville Goddard Original Audio Lectures:
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardOriginalAudioLectures001A-F
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardOriginalAudioLectures002G-I
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardOriginalAudioLectures003J-S
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardOriginalAudioLectures004T
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardOriginalAudioLectures005U-Z
>>Cleaner audio:
https://archive.org/details/NevilleGoddardAudio001.

Last thread, oppsie

>>>40466040

>>40514773 (OP)
Nice, new thread
>Tripfags Included

tripGODS won.

what edition is that BIG Bible he has on that photo?

I have a girlfriend that looks almost exactly like pic related

>>40516965
"Comically Large Bible Standard Edition"

>>40516986
so she's built for BBC?

>>40516986
You don't even believe such a lie.

>>40517171
I'm a white man and she's built for me and me alone.
>>40517177
There's millions like her.

Something really eye opening to me when I was listening to Rev. Ike was about self concept. Since he was black in 1970s, people used (and still do to this day) that as an excuse for failure and poverty. He then gives an example of a black man who lived in Alabama in a place where the Klan ran it and should've killed him on the spot. Instead he became a millionaire and was congratulated by the mayor, the same one who stopped black children from going to school with white children.

It made me think about everyone who is "da joos bro" or "china bro" or "all woman are wh0res bro" and how they can't get what they want out of life because of these circumstances, that only the black ugly and gay can get by in this world and the white man has no place in it anymore. I subconsciously saw a pattern of everyone that knew about the "conspiracies" i knew were all not very wealthy, not well acquainted, and generally not happy but never pondered much after that.

Now I know that the biggest theory is that there are external things outside of me that has a cause on my life and that if I believe that the jews run the banks hollywood governments and the media and theres nothing I can do about it and I will never find a wife because all women are whores and migrants will replace me, then that will be my story. If I know myself to be a happily married man, making abundant amounts of money, well connected and friends with many, then my story will also be.

It's truly liberating. Also welcome back Mother-anon and LilAnon.

>>40517392
Read Neville. Stop telling people what you want, especially on a website where people like to troll.

>>40514773 (OP)
these threads started dying before hitting the bump limit, probably time to call it quits boys

All my brothers manifesting their SP just remember one thing and keep it repeated in your mind. They always come back.

manifest this, manifest that, where the womanifesting at?

>>40518716
https://youtu.be/tIS4EbSCVmY

>>40518748
The passions of the soul which follow the phantasy, when they are most vehement, cannot only change their own body, but also can transcend so, as to work upon another body, so that some wonderful impressions are thence produced in elements, and extrinsical things, and also can so take away, or bring some diseases of the mind or body. For the passions of the soul are the chiefest cause of the temperament of its proper body. So the soul being strongly elevated, and inflamed with a strong imagination, sends forth health or sickness, not only in its proper body, but also in other bodies.

So also the desire of witches to hurt, doth bewitch men most perniciously with steadfast looks.

To these things Avicen, Aristotle, Algazel, and Galen assent. For it is manifest that a body may most easily be affected with the vapour of another's diseased body, which we plainly see in the plague, and leprosy. Again, in the vapours of the eyes there is so great a power, that they can bewitch and infect any that are near them, as the cockatrice, or basilisk, killing men with their looks. And certain women in Scythia, amongst the Illyrians, and Triballi, killed whomsoever they looked angry upon.

Therefore let no man wonder that the body, and soul of one may in like manner be affected with the mind of another, seeing the mind is far more powerful, strong, fervent, and more prevalent by its motion than vapours exhaling out of bodies; neither are there wanting mediums, by which it should work, neither is another's body less subjected to another's mind, than to another's body.

https://youtu.be/YPz2FxrDZvI

>>40518773
Upon this account they say, that a man by his affection, and habit only, may act upon another.

Therefore philosophers advise that the society of evil, and mischievous men be shunned, for their soul being full of noxious rays, infects them that are near with a hurtful contagion. On the contrary, they advise that the society of good, and fortunate men be endeavoured after, because by their nearness they do us much good. For as the smell of assafetida, or musk, so of bad something of bad, of good something of good, is derived upon them that are nigh, and sometimes continues a long time.

Now then, if the foresaid passions have so great a power in the phantasy, they have certainly a greater power in the reason, in as much as the reason is more excellent than the phantasy; and lastly, they have much greater power in the mind; for this, when it is fixed upon God for any good with its whole intention, doth oftentimes affect another's body as well as its own with some divine gift. By this means we read that many miracles were done by Apollonius, Pythagoras, Empedocles, Philolaus, and many prophets, and holy men of our religion.

>>40517617
Dogshit new op and whining about effort posting trips all the time killed these threads. I learned everything one needs to in my 4 years being here, good luck to the rest of you

>>40517483
>Read Neville
you only need like 3 sentences.
or universal line - you don't have to do anything

>>40518901
what gave you the biggest results?

My vibes are fucked this week, send astral jannies.
>start week walking on sunshine, feel like I could walk outside my door and make a new friend
>think "this isn't going to last, is it?"
>everything comes to a screeching halt

>>40517469
can you link his self concept audio about the black man in Alabama

>>40519910
dont let that get you down anon.

my particular game theory is that when you say stuff like "this is going to last, isn't it? You're testing for validation, feeling so good and knowing life can be so easy makes people think there needs to be a "catch", even subconsciously, you give yourself a problem.

so if stuff like that happens, tell yourself
>no, it IS this easy.
then stuff compounds because you said so!

>>40514773 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>40518901
>see something I hate
>no, I won't just let it pass by, I MUST COMMENT

You make your own hell

>>40519917
https://youtu.be/UI4ysGYPYXQ?t=90

Not the exact part but its good to hear from that position

When these LOA Gurus go 'I intend to be given a free cup of coffee' do I just repeat it verbatim in my mind? Including the 'I intend' part?

Tell me about a succesful manifestation any one of you had

>>40520551
My first girlfriend (I was 17 she was 16) I had dreamed of her (not on purpose tho) for 5 nights in a row before having no dreams for like a further week and then meeting her on the bus randomly having never seen nor met her before in my life. What's weird is each of the dreams we ended up being in very similar situations in reality.

>>40520551
As a kid I was poor and I was the only one in my friend group without an Xbox 360. I dreamed about playing my 360 in my room for weeks to help myself fall asleep. I played a specific game on it that my friends liked to play because I played it at their houses. A while later, my dad bought me a 360 with that specific game. It wasn't even my birthday or anything, he just had the money and he wanted to do something nice for me. That memory stands out because I almost never got anything outside of birthdays and Christmas.

Bashar’s Create Your Own Reality
> Act on your passion first,
> At the best of your ability,
> Take that action with zero assumptions on the outcome,
> Stay in a positive state, everything happens for a reason,
> Let go of fear.

Vadim Zeland's Transurfing
> Reality is manifest in an infinite variety of forms.
> Any model of the universe represents just one manifestation of reality.
> Your choice is always realized. You always receive what you choose.
> The alternatives space is an information field recording all that was, is and ever will be.
> The information field contains potential alternative scenarios to any event.
> Space can be divided into sectors and each sector contains an alternative scenario of an event.
> The greater the distance between sectors, the more the alternatives will differ.
> Sectors with roughly uniform parameters are arranged in a life line.
> The radiation of thought energy materializes an alternative.
> Every organism contributes to the creation of material realization.
> When the parameters of thought energy change, a shift occurs to a different life line.
> You cannot change the fact that scenery exists, but you can choose a different type of scenery.
> You do not have to fight for happiness. You simply have to choose an alternative reality that is more to your liking.

Tyler D. Protocol (American Cosmics)
> 8 +1 hours of sleep
> Morning meditation in the sun
> Hydrate hydrate hydrate
> No caffeine / alcohol
> No social media

Real Magic - Dean Radin
> The essence of magic boils down to the application of two ordinary mental skills: attention and intention.
> The strength of the magical outcome is modulated by four factors: belief, imagination, emotion, and clarity.

The 3 basis of real magic :
> Consciousness is fundamental, meaning it is primary over the physical world.
> Everything is interconnected.
> There is only one Consciousness.

I am once again asking you to de-manifest pissrael from the face of the Earth, do it and prove you're master manifestors

>>40523272
We're working on it m8

Do I have to do SATS and immediately sleep after, or can I get into an almost sleep state and repeat my scene many times and after that go along with my day? Everytime I'm really sleepy on bed I forget I have to do the technique and I just fall asleep, what I'm doing rn is imagining my scene some minutes before going to sleep and in other moments of the day

Is "SP loves me and does everything to be with me" a good enough affirmation to repeat robotically for an experiment

>>40524289
Whatever works for you bro. Unfortunately you'll have to trial and error.

>>40518795
>>40518773

Based Agrippa in his First Book of Occult Philosophy.

>>40523272
There is no need to, God is in all and through all, why would you want to hurt yourself? Better to manifest kingship for yourself and that the nation of Israel is a kind and loving place for all.


>>40522888
trips and dubs, awesome post. I need to re-read Zeland again. I've grown so much, I can't wait to see what I missed

>>40517171
can that be attained when manifesting for a gf?
(cute sweet "loyal" but cucks me for a few years before marriage)

Opinions on r/josephmurphy?

Unrelated, but visualized a deal with king of the mosquitoes to not bite me as per Robert B. Stone's Psychotronic book.

So many "bullshit" things seem effortless but when it comes to money, I can't even spawn a nickel.

Nickelnigger

>>40524985
Has to do with your self conception. You need to get rid of you poverty mask you've been wearing.
>>40520467 has a video talking about self-image. Rev. Ike has a lot of good videos in general about changing the self image. He has a 1 hour affirmation video on there I shout in my car and feel the electricity of them that makes me utterly magnetic. It's something I used to struggle with myself but once I got rid of my negative money, negative self concept and truly held fast to my mental diet did I see big changes happen.

i learned about SATS last year tried 3 days didn't see results didn't feel as if it was done but kept learning about the law seeing some videos again and again to let it sink that my assumptions create reality i searched for proof and i got it Now i try SATS again and it's easier maybe this is what they mean by persist it was the same scene if you keep doing it'll be easier and natural until it has the dame feeling as something real that happened like a memory and once you assume and feel it's real it will happen

How do I manifest looking like George Michael

Hemi-Sync is so fucking OP

>>40524859
>why would you want to hurt yourself?
brother if hurting myself would hurt pissrael I'd have exploded already

>>40525315
lmao, I just heard a remix of freedom 90' (no homo), it's a sign bro you can do it.

Last year I was severely depressed almost killed myself had panic attacks was complaining for everything.
Tried prayer ,Christianity,Meditation for nothing then came across a guy talking about LoA then learned about Neville and read his books some of them.
Now those panic attacks and sad feelings that used to come to me somedays are replaced by ectasy feelings i have like happiness attacks feel like smiling and a rush in my chest almost like when you win something or have sex. If feeling is the secret then i feel very good cause all those negative feelings went away and only positive and happy feelings remain

>>40522888
Checked. Great post.

>>40525958
Mindstate/mental diet is easily all or none for manifesting, and I like capping posts from people who post such. It's funny though, like I only care and get to that point when I've genuinely had enough.
You can't just decide to manifest xyz. Do whatever method/ritual you're attached to, decide it is manifested, then decide to be happy and not give a fuck, no matter what happens or what anyone says. It's okay to stumble too, but it's better to learn to take back control of yourself. Distractions help a lot too so you don't fixate.

I like to think of manifesting like it's a background app, still running and accomplishing whatever I input during sats/affs/whatever, but I don't need to check it because it'll give me a notification when something comes of it.

yuh

People's opinion on robotic affirmations?

>>40527033
Only work if they eventually create the feeling that you already have it. It's the most important part of manifestion that I feel like no one talks about. It literally doesn't matter what technique you use, you just need to feel that you already have it and dwell in it until you don't anymore. They you keep your mental diet in check and badda bing badda boom you got it

>>40527100
You don't need the feeling, you just need to assume you have it. The idea of RA is that you're saturating your mind so much with the affirmative idea that it has no choice but to assume it to be true.

>>40527033
I was literally thinking about this for the whole day anon. Your post is exactly what I wanted to post lol. I agree with >>40527105 most important things is to try it for yourself and see what happens it's costless. I wonder if there's a way to use daydreaming as a technique or if there are other techniques out there other than visualization, affirmations or scripting.

>>40525179
Please do a SATS session for punctuation.

>>40524957
lucky for you this is the tripfag loa thread, and they specialize in being cucked. they can give advice here

>>40524859
> why would you want to hurt yourself?
This works for individual people, but, a nation is a larger entity. Larger entities can be inherently bad if they exist for a bad purpose.

Israel is a "country" formed on top of someone else's land. You kind of have to choose between one of the other.

> the nation of Israel is a kind and loving place for all

The issue is that that place is Palestine. I guess you could manifest a world where Palestinians have their land and a hypothetical Jewish state exists somewhere else in harmony with everyone, which I wouldn't even have an issue with, but, that still involves erasing the idea of an "Israel" that exists on top of Palestine.

>isr*el gets bombed
>the thread slows down to a halt
curious innit

>>40525958
LoA is Christianity. This is the correct interpretation of the Bible.

The idea that God only responds to your prayers when he's in the mood to and he's like a person who sits and thinks about it and maybe sometimes he'll give you the opposite just to mess with you and teach you humility is incorrect Christianity.

>>40525179
>tried 3 days didn't see results
>i did 12 pushups and didn't look like a body builder
wow really? shocking

>>40524859
>Better to manifest that the nation of Israel is a kind and loving place for all.
some things are not possible

>>40529306
morons like you is why this thread is dying
where is the tripfag free loa thread? I don't see one

>>40527100
>>40527105
what if robotic affirming only uses about 10-20% of your mind, with the rest drifting into whatever other thoughts?

obviously ppl get results robo-affing without full attention e.g. while doing physical task (driving, walking, cleaning etc.),
but what about if you're just sitting there?

>>40529704
I'm repeating the same 2 lines in my head all day every day. There is no other thought in my mind.

>>40529711
I mean dont you have part of your mind affirming and continuing to in the background while the rest of your mind goes elsewhere?

do you affirm really loudly and vigorously, or quietly and casually (that seems to be more the background variant).
you can visualize right?

>>40529729
I do both, loud if I'm on my own or in my mind if I'm with my family or friends. I even sit on the xbox playing F1 whilst continuing to affirm.

>>40514773 (OP)
I am a newfag, what does mean SP?

>>40529739
no i mean in your mind (not out loud) - are you loudly vigorously affirming, kind of like how sammy ingram speaks- assertively almost angrily,
or just affirming casually and quietly.

I also mean if you're affirming in your mind whilst NOT doing anything else - then surely most of your mind goes elsewhere?

>>40529750
Specific Person (often a girl's ex)

>>40529758
I just say it how I normally speak both in my mind and aloud. I might declare it more sternly to myself when I'm outside listening to music though and I have seen results.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/1ck36a3/the_law_is_absolutely_real/
it works even without belief

>>40529785

So how many thoughts on a day would you estimate you are affirming?

>>40530586
It's two sentences that is all I am repeating, pretty much all day when I'm awake. So I'd say two but they're the same thing.

>>40530594

I mean like 1000-2000 in total? There were days where I did similar thing, few thoughts for 7-10 days all days but never manifested anything

>>40530600
I'm averaging closer to 5000 or 6000 a day I'd say. I switched to RA because I can't control my visualisations in SATS it just goes from one thing to another and not always good. I've had some success with RA but I'm only on day 2 of what I'm actually affirming for.

I am the OP of this thread. This is my last (lets go?) post on 4chan. I finally understand it and wondered about the whole thing of "is thought ALL there is?". It's not. William Walker Atkinson perfectly describes it. Thought works within natural law, not against it. People are individuals, while you can affect them telekinetically, they also do the same. This can describe why Neville believed everyone was you pushed out and can affect others by thinking lovely thoughts about them. They, however can do the same thing so becareful who you hang out and speak with.


Unlike how >>40524859 said we should just imagine better for israel rather than murder of people (innocent or not), it probably won't happen if there are a bunch of conflicting mental dramas being played out. Persistance could help it change it OVER TIME, but not instantly.

This also answers the question for my own self why I felt electric while practicing semen retention. It wasn't just my thoughts, it's part of cosmic law. It also explains why eating goyslop makes you feel horrible and eating fresh whole foods makes me feel light and energetic.

I'll post what I made chatgpt give me for all the "practices" that all support the Law of Attraction.

>>40530649


Summary: The “Perfect Atkinson Student” Practices:

Thought Control
Selective thinking, visualization, affirmation
Breath Control
Daily yogic breathing, rhythm, stillness
Celibacy/Retention
Control sexual force, transmute to will and creativity
Diet
Natural, moderate, chew thoroughly, mindful eating
Willpower
Daily hard task, stillness, “I Will” mantra
Magnetism
Project presence, mirror work, aura cultivation
Transmutation
Redirect lower urges into creative, moral force
Study
Mental science, natural law, inner mechanics
Self-Observation
Daily awareness of thoughts, emotions, habits


Addio Anons, I have got what I wanted out of here. I wish you the best of luck of finding what you were looking for her in 4chan

>>40530636

There was someone on reddit who made a mp3 recording of affirms and just listened to this all day and manifested that way. Would tou try something like this?

>>40530700
I have tried something similar but I didn't notice much movement but then again I guess the argument would be I didn't persist.

>>40530662
You can't practice magnetism. That's a byproduct of other practices

>>40530662
>Project presence, mirror work, aura cultivation
Wait bro, how do I practice these

>While Neville Goddard didn't use the word "manifestation" in the way it's commonly used today, he did use terms that convey the same idea, such as "realization," "assumption," and "creation." He focused on the power of imagination and belief to shape one's reality, which aligns with the modern concept of manifestation
Th ks chatgpt.

>>40517469
Most of the pol arguments about da joos are only referring to a tiny minority of economically elite jews. Not all ultrarich jews are "in on it." It's mostly a cope to link a single group or race to reptilian demons. Central banking and fractional reserve is OP though and should be abolished.

Most western women are whores. That's nothing like "da joos". It's not on a similar level. If 0.1% of rich joos are controlling everything, 85% of western women are whores. It's not their fault, it's the media and culture.

Easy solution? Work hard and get your passport, or go after the older homely girls. They tend to be a little better personality wise.

>>40530852
Conor McGregor is the greatest example that the law of attraction works. Use the techniques he talks about

>>40533822
He wanted to be a pathetic flash in the pan known for shit liquor and raping women?

>>40534419
If he can make it work through his public image more power to him

>>40514773 (OP)
>Be me
>Incel walking down a long street
>See to many people for my liking
>Imagine them making way for myself
>Out of nowhere start raining
>Everyone else moved to the sides except for like 5 people and me

>Be me have thing for tall foids
>Wish to see a woman taller than me(6')
>Walk outside see 6:3 volleyball foid with an ass
How do i meet her again considering that i dont know jer?

>>40520540
It does work. I prefer to think of it as bending the law rather than abiding or breaking any specific law. You need to find your local entropic loophole and exploit carefully

>>40529315
Strawman. What you call 'incorrect Christianity' - which I suspect you mean the traditional Christianity - is either a lie told to you by somebody, or a fantasy you conjured up in your own head. It's not real.

Christian is a follower of Jesus, God manifested in flesh who, in the act of self-sacrificial death - separation from God, a state inconceivable to one such as He - sanctifies human flesh, freeing it of inherited sin.

Now, whoever believes in Him is a new creation, and will inherit Kingdom of Heaven, co-ruling with Christ as His brother/sister for all eternity.

The idea that God condemns or rejects based "on His mood" is not compatible with Christianity, and rather shows a deep ignorance of the texts. If anyone - whoever it is - says otherwise, they are a charlatan and a liar, and should be ignored.

>>40535648
It depends on your process of sanctification
some Christians I know are unable to transform completely through Christ so they endure patiently with the old testament until God provides for them the necessary requisite for the renewal of their mind

>>40529916
>it works even without belief

Correct, here is an excellent video explaining this:
>https://youtu.be/PUMsLkWqJAk?si=F9ovt_4YUHQTbXMg

>but muh Sammy Ingram!

She unironically is the best LOA teacher on right now.

>>40527033
Works

>>40527100
>you just need to feel that you already have it and dwell in it until you don't anymore

Wrong - that is a good way to never get what you want. Keep doing your technique until you have what you want in your hands - belief or feeling not required.

>>40524985
>Opinions on r/josephmurphy?

It came about due to the shit show that is the /r/NevilleGoddard subreddit and until Moonbeamz went off the deep end (he tried diddling a minor and tried charging for his couching) it was the superior subreddit but sadly it is dead nowadays. The index, nonetheless, is an excellent resource especially for beginners because it really dispels a lot of myths about the LOA and any baggage you may have if you are coming from the Neville Goddard way of things. The subreddit became infamous because Moonbeamz was such a dickhead (for good reason) to people because he was results oriented and wanted people to succeed; to his credit he never censored anyone talking shit about him.

I only started getting LOA results when I dropped Neville Goddard completely and followed Joseph Murphy's way of the LOA that I learned from the subreddit that shares his name.

>So many "bullshit" things seem effortless but when it comes to money, I can't even spawn a nickel.

Pic related from POSM.

>No, I didn’t save Billy. He died, but my presence did convince my sister that her son was notflesh and blood. If her brother, in New York City, could appear to her in Barbados, she knew there was something that inhabits a body which cannot go to eternal death.
So why didnt neville save the 17 yo cancer nephew?

>>40534419
>He wanted to be a pathetic flash in the pan known for shit liquor and raping women?

Pic related - if the "captain" of the mind is retarded that will reflect in their outer world regardless of how much mastery of the LOA they have. I know this will trigger all the Nevillecels but LOA will only take you so far and a lot of people really need to read philosophy and create experiences for themselves that lead to healthy personal growth.

If you teach a violent, low IQ rape monkey like Conor McGregor the LOA, then his life is a good representation of what will happen.

>>40535797
Oh and I forgot to mention that the subreddit did a really good job exposing and shitting on A LOT of teachers/coaches for being scam artists and/or being full of shit (Edward Arts, Joseph Alai, etc.)

>>40535823
>So why didnt neville save the 17 yo cancer nephew?

Neville IMO was a larper and didn't manifest shit in his life.

>>40534419
>Raping women is bad o algo

>>40535797
>I only started getting LOA results when I dropped Neville Goddard completely and followed Joseph Murphy's way of the LOA that I learned from the subreddit that shares his name.
>>So many "bullshit" things seem effortless but when it comes to money, I can't even spawn a nickel
I got 500$ the day after i manifested it.
Seems like skill issues o algo

Day 3 of RA.

>>40534419
why did you choose to be cartoonishly obtuse like this

>>40519078
>3 sentences.
?

I'm starting to dream of what I'm robotically affirming for consistently, does that mean anything?

>>40535827
Every single loa coach after neville is a scam.
Including this moon guy

The secret is keeping secret.

>>40535888
The thing about keeping it a secret is only due to people thinking you're crazy and mocking you for it which would cause you to lose belief.

https://goddardenterprisesltd.com/history/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Goddard
If the thing doesnt work why are his relatives gorrilionares?

>>40535915
>In one of his lectures neville talks about brother wanting to get a bussiness going and imaginining it
Looks like it worked quite well

>>40535648
>which I suspect you mean the traditional Christianity

Well, not exactly. Traditional Christianity would be the one closest to the Bible. The idea of a distant God who is uninvolved with our lives isn't in the Bible.

If by "traditional" you mean "mainstream", yes, I'm talking about some versions of mainstream Christianity.

> God manifested in flesh who

Lol kind of a side point, but this is Modalism, which would be heresy from a trinitarian standpoint. The Trinity is more, like, Jesus is God by virtue of being fully united with God the Father, but he's still a separate entity. But, when you say "God manifested in flesh", that sounds more like one entity morphing, which is Modalism, or what Oneness Pentecostals believe, which constantly gets decreed as heresy by the rest of mainstream Christianity.

> Now, whoever believes in Him is a new creation, and will inherit Kingdom of Heaven

Right, mainstream Christians do believe this. The issue is that we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about answers to prayers while you're talking about salvation.

Generally any Protestant won't take issue with the idea that anyone can be saved if they simply want to and accept Jesus. The disagreement is about whether God answers prayers in this life.

It's obviously not a strawman to say that there's Christians who believe that God may or may not choose to answer a prayer based on criteria that you have no effect on.

That's what I'm calling incorrect Christianity. The idea that God wants you to suffer in this life because it "builds character" or whatever and no matter how you pray he just won't help.

You can't seriously tell me that it's a strawman to say that such an interpretation of Christianity exists considering that Cessationism is an entire movement.

> The idea that God condemns or rejects based "on His mood" is not compatible with Christianity

Yes, that's my point, I'm saying that this is a wrong interpretation of the Bible.

>>40535648
>and rather shows a deep ignorance of the texts
I'm not really sure what you're arguing here? I'm saying that this doctrine, that God simply rejects people's prayers because he wants them to keep suffering, is an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

>>40535915
Because his family was already rich thanks to selling blacks into slavery when it was a legal craft? All rich families in Barbados started that way

>>40535797
>baggage you may have if you are coming from the Neville Goddard way of things
Such as?

Anyone happy that my israel manifestations came true? Ill be taking donations later...

>>40536565
Is Iran winning?

I have really bad insomnia, and the doctor prescribed me a drug which hasn't helped me fall asleep, but which puts me in SATS for hours.

I think my mind is being loosh farmed. I basically comes up with scenarios that im not even in or have no realtions to for eg:

Imagine this a wife who is attractive successful had sexual life experience and then there is a husband who doesn't have much experince or success

In this case the husband lashes out fuck things up i rage at this whole thing of woman outearnig men

But i use the power of feeling and get the rage out i believe im being deliberately used by these people to get rid of their insecurties and rage on to me

Im being loosh farmed by these people they want me to rage feel jealous it's like they are outsourcing all the bad things on to me

I might be a schizo

I made thread but im sure you guys can help

>>40535823
To my understanding Neville believed theres a countless amount of different parallel universes, thats why anybody could in theory manifest anything. I think this was something he got a bunch of flack from and bunch of people stopped listening to him because of it. He saw saving the boy as useless since the boy is fine in countless amount of universes and dies in a countless amount more. I dont know how I feel about it, but it would offer explanation on the question "Why hasn't anybody manifested X", they have, but our conciousness' arent in that universe.

>>40537568
Or its just a convenient excuse for the money grabbing larp

>>40536995
it is your mind, you are doing it

>>40536722
Iran won

>>40538051
Nice, I had a feeling they were doing well. I saw a headline about Israel "warning" and it reminded me of those guys who threaten to fight everyone but never do.

>>40514773 (OP)
alright loa bros, I'm back after taking a break from manifesting
I ran into some diminishing returns and I couldn't really get what I wanted. Now I know what the problem was
It was sort of a ridiculous thing, and a message I received before (multiple times now, now that I think about it) but I rejected it because I thought it was impossible or a ridiculous standard
"Never have negative thoughts". I thought it was silly and impossible, but honestly now I'm leading toward that conclusion. Just be free, be chill, feel good all the time, let go, relax, and go with the flow.
It's really just a contradiction that I want good things to happen, but I also want to "allow" myself to have negative thoughts. Why would I even want that? almost like I'm addicted to being negative or "want" to feel bad, or mad, or sad, or whatever. Why would I even want that?
And I thought it was sort of impossible. Have no negative thoughts ever? really? Just never have negative thoughts? I rejected it as absurd

But honestly, I think this is the way forward.
I need to clean up my "general" manifestation. What exists in your heart will be reflected in the world. In other words, the world you see is a mirror for your heart or your "inner world", your mind.
And the manifestations you do without realizing it are often times more powerful than the ones you do intentionally.
What is it that determines the outcome of any specific manifesting attempt? How well you do it. If you do it the wrong way, it won't work as well.
But what about how your life manifests in general? That's probably determined by your thoughts in general.
So to have a good life in general, you need to have good thoughts in general. you also need to let go, go with the flow and just be. Resisting things in your mind just means you are resisting yourself. Stop doing that. Just let things happen, let thoughts happen.

>>40538241
continued:

do techniques that make your thoughts more positive overall. Allow the negative thoughts to dissolve over time, and just sort of fade away. Stop resisting them, let them play out and just be what they are, and then take care to just not have negative thoughts throughout your day
If you do, then just let them float by. Acknowledge them, but don't feed into them
You'll also need to scan yourself to see if any thoughts have "upset" your subconscious mind, and cleanse them so that negativity just floats away. This is a bit more difficult skill to learn, but eventually you can learn it.

I think one of the problems we have in manifesting, is the feedback loop. You see something negative. Then you react negatively. This makes more negative thoughts, which then manifest more negative things. Hard to escape that loop.
But also we shouldn't blame the victim. Why did that first negative thing happen? "Because you reacted negatively" No, not really. It had to come from somewhere first, in order for you to react to it. It is good not to cause 2nd order effects and then see bad things in the world, then react negatively, then cause more bad things to manifest, yes that is true.
But! Where did they come from in the first place? From some negative thought you had.
So you have to get rid of all of them.

I know this sounds ridiculous or impossible, but honestly, I think this is the end game for manifesting (and to improve your manifesting more "generally"). Figure out a way to somehow have no negative thoughts ever. And if negative things do happen, I'm not suggesting you go delusional and pretend something didn't happen or that you don't see it. But just don't react (with feeling). Acknowledge it clinically, then move on. Then cleanse yourself of any remaining negativity, and go back to being totally free, in the zone, going with the flow. Go back to being in that positive flow state "in the zone", and good things will happen.

>>40517469
>If I know myself to be a happily married man, making abundant amounts of money, well connected and friends with many, then my story will also be.
true
I think all these conspiracy type things might exist in reality, in your current timeline, if you have been manifesting negativity
How come the world sucks? Well, the jews. Why is the crime rate high, well the blacks. How come you don't have a gf, well because feminism and women are whores
Perhaps this all makes sense. But only because you are in the timeline
If you are manifesting positive things, then there won't be any jews. Or maybe there will be peace in the middle east and shit with israel will calm down. You won't worry about crime rate, because all those things just sort of bounce off of you, and you don't feel weird walking around at night and get "bad vibes", so there's no reason to look for an explanation (the blacks) for those problems. You just won't experience them
And women will like you, you'll find a good woman who is good to you, and you won't be thinking about "why women are bad", because that simply won't be your experience.
But this will require you to manifest all those good things, and have that good life. While you are stuck in the lower vibration timeline, these things appear real. They certainly affect your life.
But if you get better at manifesting, your whole life will improve and these problems will simply stop existing, or they will be "in the background". If you go looking for them, maybe they will still be there, but they won't affect you.
And I know for a fact that how you are manifesting things can move you into different "timelines" or whatever you want to call them, where people will treat you differently, different things happen. It's based on you, what thoughts you have, what's in your heart, how you react to things. I know that for a fact
All I have to figure out now, is how to do that more, and even better.

>>40519910
>My vibes are fucked this week, send astral jannies.
>>start week walking on sunshine, feel like I could walk outside my door and make a new friend
>>think "this isn't going to last, is it?"
>>everything comes to a screeching halt
you can fix it yourself
you just need to figure out why it happened. Where did that thought "this isn't going to last" come from? track that down, cleanse it, make it happy, give it a hug, and it will be positive again

We've all experienced getting into the flow, feeling like king of the world, everything works, but then for some reason it ends. We get back to normal reality
The key is how to get back into that state, and how to stay there. or make it happen more often
This is a skill you can learn. You just need to figure out self exploration and self diagnosis, and find the parts of you that are unhappy or upset, then fill them with love and positivity, so they are happy again and let go of that negativity
exploring your subconscious and your emotions, basically.

>>40538307
Are those people real or is this like solipsism

>>40520258
>my particular game theory is that when you say stuff like "this is going to last, isn't it? You're testing for validation, feeling so good and knowing life can be so easy makes people think there needs to be a "catch", even subconsciously, you give yourself a problem.
it's exactly that. We start inventing problems for ourselves, for a variety of reasons
If you can figure out "why" that happened, why that thought of "this won't last" or whatever it is, and then address that, and bring it back into positivity and joy, then the state of everything being easy and being king of the world will return

When we broke up she went from not wanting to be with me to getting back with me in 6 days but it fell apart 3 days later, I'm currently trying robotic affirming and I'm on day 4.

>>40538354
I broke and messaged her today like an idiot and she basically said she isn't doing any better since we last spoke which one of my affirms may be doing that but I don't know what to say to get her back because she seems to love me but not want me.

>>40520402
>>see something I hate
>>no, I won't just let it pass by, I MUST COMMENT
>You make your own hell
haha so true
If you see something you don't like, you probably already fucked up somehow because you manifested a negative thing
but if you react to it, you just make a feedback loop, and make it worse.
Better to sit back, go into introspection, figure out WHY it's happening, what thing lead to this negative manifestation, and then return it back to simple joy and happiness, and then it will go away
When you see negativity in the world, it's a reflection of your inner world
When other people start fighting you or getting hostile, it's because different parts of you are fighting you, in other words, you have been fighting yourself. So don't fight yourself. just go with the flow and let things be.

But with gentle guidance and positivty, to like fix things. There is a contradiction there of "just be and just go with the flow" and "here's how you can change things and fix your life". So that fixing things should be gentle and based on guidance and compassion. Don't force things (that's just fighting yourself). Put them in harmony, and invite them into the good vibes.

I am spending tens of thousands of dollars on tipping onlyfans and fansly women to make custom videos for me and do livestreams for me

>>40520540
>When these LOA Gurus go 'I intend to be given a free cup of coffee' do I just repeat it verbatim in my mind?
you can repeat it in your mind
> Including the 'I intend' part?
whatever feels natural to you
Keep doing it until it "feels right" or "feels good"

>>40522888
thanks for posting this. this is cool

>>40524289
>Do I have to do SATS and immediately sleep after, or can I get into an almost sleep state and repeat my scene many times and after that go along with my day?
you can do it at any time, but it's helpful for beginners to do it before sleep because they can naturally get into that trance state
If you can already get into trances whenever you want, you can do that too.

>>40524310
>Is "SP loves me and does everything to be with me" a good enough affirmation to repeat robotically for an experiment
yes
but also remember resistance. explore your own resistance to this idea (assuming you have any), and heal that with love and friendliness until it feels better.
then manifesting that idea will be easier
I've been exploring that problem myself recently, and it seems I have a lot of problems with respect to romantic love that has been holding me back. So dissolving that resistance has been something to overcome.

>>40524985
>Opinions on r/josephmurphy?
>Unrelated, but visualized a deal with king of the mosquitoes to not bite me as per Robert B. Stone's Psychotronic book.
>So many "bullshit" things seem effortless but when it comes to money, I can't even spawn a nickel.
I have the same opinion as what the other guy said
>Has to do with your self conception. You need to get rid of you poverty mask you've been wearing.
you're holding yourself back in some way. Some part of you resists abundance and easy money.
So you'll need to explore that

>>40525179
>Now i try SATS again and it's easier maybe this is what they mean by persist it was the same scene if you keep doing it'll be easier and natural
yep

>>40526403
>I like to think of manifesting like it's a background app, still running and accomplishing whatever I input during sats/affs/whatever, but I don't need to check it because it'll give me a notification when something comes of it.
yep
you set it up, and then it boomerangs back to you

>>40535558
>>Be me have thing for tall foids
>>Wish to see a woman taller than me(6')
>>Walk outside see 6:3 volleyball foid with an ass
>How do i meet her again considering that i dont know jer?
don't worry about meeting that specific one again
just manifest another general person GP, not the SP
And do it in a way, that makes it easy for you to talk to her. Then take that opportunity and talk to her

>>40535648
>The idea that God condemns or rejects based "on His mood" is not compatible with Christianity, and rather shows a deep ignorance of the texts.
well that is the problem isn't it?
People pray to "god", their prayer is not answered, so they lose faith in "god"
They don't understand how prayer works, so they think christianity is a fraud religion. And if that's the religion that was taught to them, then yes, it was a fraud
the real version actually works, and is much better.

>>40535880
>I'm starting to dream of what I'm robotically affirming for consistently, does that mean anything?
yes, that means it is being absorbed into your mind
seeing stuff in dreams is not necessary to success. you can manifest things without a dream, or with a dream
it's just a sign your mind is reacting to this idea
in your case, I'd say it's a good sign. but by itself it's not the final thing. You want it to happen for real don't you? not just in a dream
So keep going.

>>40536178
>Because his family was already rich thanks to selling blacks into slavery when it was a legal craft? All rich families in Barbados started that way
plenty of rich people lose their money
why did neville's family keep their money? because they kept being in the mode that says "I am rich. I have money. Money is easy. I keep making money"
or something similar
it doesn't matter where the money came from. If you are in that mode, the money will be there

>>40536995
>But i use the power of feeling and get the rage out i believe im being deliberately used by these people to get rid of their insecurties and rage on to me
>Im being loosh farmed by these people they want me to rage feel jealous it's like they are outsourcing all the bad things on to me
as the other guy said, these are your thoughts. In other words, you're doing it to yourself
Figure out where these thoughts are come from, and engage in self healing. you'll feel better

>>40538336
>Are those people real or is this like solipsism
if that's your experience, then yes it's real
But you can go to a different timeline, where these problems just "go away" and stop affecting you
so it's real, but you can make reality different

>>40538354
>When we broke up she went from not wanting to be with me to getting back with me in 6 days but it fell apart 3 days later, I'm currently trying robotic affirming and I'm on day 4.
>>40538359
>I broke and messaged her today like an idiot and she basically said she isn't doing any better since we last spoke which one of my affirms may be doing that but I don't know what to say to get her back because she seems to love me but not want me.
figure out why it fucked up in the first place
address that problem, and then it will be easy
get back to your general manifesting stuff, and this specific manifestation will be easier

>>40538511
Her excuse was her family don't like how I handled the breakup, will never like me and she wants someone who her family will like. The day we broke up i was also very depressed prior like a feeling i had.

>>40538520
>Her excuse was her family don't like how I handled the breakup, will never like me and she wants someone who her family will like.
I'm not asking about how these unfolding in the physical world. What emotional cause in you made these events manifest?
>The day we broke up i was also very depressed prior like a feeling i had.
this is what I'm talking about.
address this problem, and then move forward

>>40538626
I was depressed cos I was in pain and had a tooth abscess

it's been since august last year i kept a list
main desires:
>get laid
>big amount of money
>ps5
just for the sake of it being not too important i choose the ps5 cause i wanted to compare.
Still nothing i tried visualizations,affirmations,scripting,drawing,chaos magick and robotic affirmations.
Any tips ? it's been 10 months should i just give up? i tried UL at some point too but didn't get any returns

>>40538674
Just test with with stupid shit for a while. Nothing to lose by asking for an assortment of tennis balls color coded by method, right? Just try for curiosity's sake at this point. If you get a tennis ball, return and try other shit using the same method. Keep repeating until you havr it down pat, and move on to what you actually want.

>>40535797
Do you mean you use moonbeams method or what's in JM's book

>>40538626
>>The day we broke up i was also very depressed prior like a feeling i had.
>this is what I'm talking about.
>address this problem, and then move forward
oh, and I forgot to mention this
When you are feeling this way, expect bad things to manifest. So before they do, realize this, and find some way to relax and get back to harmony and good vibes.
Or, alternatively, if something bad does happen, immediately go to your inner world, figure out what is wrong, and then bring things back to a positive harmonious state

>>40538632
>I was depressed cos I was in pain and had a tooth abscess
okay, well then don't react that way and create a feedback loop where soemthing bad happens, then you feel bad, and make more bad things happen
Why did the pain and tooth abscess happen? You manifested that as well. Figure out why that happened, and then try to do better in the future
Can't change the past, so don't beat yourself up over it. You probably didn't realize it. But now you know better
So every time you're feeling bad like that, realize it, and then address the problem so you have good vibes again

>>40538952
I believe in my robotic affirmations to get her.

>>40536565
cool, now do the total dismantlement of pissrael

>>40539018
>I believe in my robotic affirmations to get her.
Okay, that's great
But that has nothing to do with what I just said to you. You should also recognize the things you unintentionally manifest. They are often more powerful than the things you try to manifest intentionally. It's not something to ignore (unless you want bad results I guess)

Resolve the problems that exist within, which caused these bad events to unfold.
It's not just about manifesting a specific event to happen. It's also recognizing how you unintentionally manifest bad things to happen, and putting a stop to that. and also increase your overall good manifestations too (which are not specific goals, just how you feel throughout the day). Having an overall good day with good vibes will make all your other manifestations a lot easier.
You have to address both sides of the issue

Or not I guess. You don't have to listen to me. it's your life. you can do whatever you want.

>>40539115
I'm taking all of what you said into consideration. I also need to start affirming for my own mind and healthy, those are more important in the long run. You've made some really good posts tonight, I appreciate you.

>>40539154
>I'm taking all of what you said into consideration.
oh okay
>I also need to start affirming for my own mind and healthy, those are more important in the long run.
yeah for sure. Me too. These are things I've been focusing on lately
>You've made some really good posts tonight, I appreciate you.
thanks

>>40538674
my stuff works way better when i do meditation, give joe dispenza tapes a go on youtube. Also try to remain in the feeling of the wish fullfilled in your day-to-day life.

SP is getting proper jealous.

>>40539063
are you still talking about that old country? its been wiped off the map for years now

>>40539707
>SP is getting proper jealous.
nice bro

How do i manifest a GP? How can I visualize that person

Last week was wild.
>Song that I haven't heard in years pops up in my head, have trouble remembering the chorus
>The day after it comes on the radio, almost directly in front of the chorus
And this really blew my mind
>SP sends a photo of a handheld smoke detector with temp indicator, talking about how warm it was in her appartment.
>Two days later I visit my parents place and for some reason the exact detector is just laying there on a sidetable the moment I walk in.

>>40540426
>How do i manifest a GP? How can I visualize that person
it's the same as manifesting any type of person, or any kind of thing
you visualize a certain scene, or a certain person in that scene
You fill it with the details you care about. What are they like? tall, short? happy, sad? They like you, or they don't like you? long hair, short hair. You can specify almost anything
for a romantic partner, you would want, good looking, likes me, we have a conversation, stuff like that. You can specify hair style too. blonde, brunette, red head.
You can practice manifesting certain types of people. Try this, and go to the store. can you manifest a bunch of short people? How about people who are laughing at a funny joke? an overall positive vibe. Or maybe you want a down cast vibe.

Anyway, picture this scene, then add a lot of energy to it. A lot of feeling. Say "I want this to manifest in real life. This is really happening. It is so real, I can feel it. I can see it. This is real." stuff like that. Or just use whatever manifesting technique that already works for you. That's just explaining how it works to a beginner.

Then wait. It will manifest. Then practice, and try different variations. Does it work better when you hold this scene and feeling for 30 seconds? Work better if you hold it for 5 minutes? How long does it take to manifest? Did you get a big result or a small result? Did it work at all?

Experiment, try new things. then, manifest that GP. Or you can skip all that practice, and just try it from the beginning. But that's how you would train this ability. Experiment, try new things, make it bigger, add a challenge.

>>40540484
yeah bro, synchronicities are wild

>>40538808
>>40539677
actual advice i did not expect that thanks fellas and yeah i skipped simple stuff like the tennis balls and the ladder but i might have to do them to gain confidence or whatever, and meditation sounds like it might help me too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OFSx5jwFM
has anyone tried this?
i would like a qrd of steps to take to embody beneficial alter ego.

Told my SP about my ex messaging me for lols and she went insanely fucking jealous yet says she has no feelings for me

>>40538497
>>40538018
Its not someone is attackaing it doesn't go away it comes back

>>40514773 (OP)
I'd say i succesfully manifested israel being engulfed in flames.

>>40523444
checked, the thought gets me harder than le girlfriend
real girlfriend question though: I often tense up when I imagine happy times with an imaginary girl. How to navigate the mental imaginations such that I don't tense up, so I can experience those pleasures?
>>40538451
So is GP just a general appearance? They can be completely customized - do I have to customize, choose everything? How much detail do I need?
I did the ladder experiment years ago btw and it worked in 5 days. I've tried to visualize fantasy girls going to bed and my mind redirects.
>>40539677
maintain wish fulfilled for just a few days is enough?
>>40540741
>>40538808
tennis ball sounds easy to do that's the point right, that EVERYTHING is the same "difficulty" which is zero?

>>40538674
>should i just give up?
I mean, that might be what missing from your practice. Just give up. Let it be. Let it go. You might have been holding the wrong feeling, waiting for your manifestation to come and guess what? What you find is more waiting, because that's the signal you're sending : waiting and being frustrated, maintaining a gap between you and your desired object, thinking the next method would help you, or the next one, or the next one, when the simplest one could do just fine. It's your heart and mind that need readjusting, not the method. Be calm, be peaceful, live your life. Remember one thing and one thing only : the law always works. Always. What you need is keep calibrating your mind and your heart so that you can be sure you live at the end instead of daydreaming; looking at your desired object from behind the glass door.

>>40540741
>>40541574
>tennis ball
Yes, try to get the behavior/feeling memorized so you can mimic it when dealing with something you actually care about. The reason I said different tennis balls is so you can tackle it using trial and error to figure out what method works for you.

>>40541574
>tennis ball sounds easy to do that's the point right, that EVERYTHING is the same "difficulty" which is zero?
the point is to make sure you know first how to do it and build confidence step by step from there instead of jumping straight away to your main desire which usually has a lot of baggage and feeling of attachment

>>40514773 (OP)
Am I doing it correctly? Ive made it my mission to meditate on a single thought so I can finally obtain a job Im content with. Basically this is the thought im meditating on

>I want a job that is only 30 hours a week, thats paya $20 an hour, that runs Monday to Friday, that doesnt drug test, that ill be content working at for the foreseeable future, a job that comes with a work/life balance so I have time for vacation, friends and family, and I want it by August/September of 2025

I under that I might not get 100% of my thought, but if I get most of it, but say only $16 an hour, I would still be happy. Im not coming from a place of zero work experience or skills, I do have a CDL but I just dont want to do this line of work, and the no drug test thing is while i currently dont smoke, and dont really plan to for awhile, id like to have the freedom to do so without it ruining my life. I just basically repreat this mantra in my head over and over. Currently im on a path of losing 40lbs in a little over 80 days, Ive stopped masturbating, stopped smoking weed, I just want my life to go in a different direction than it is now, and I think the only real missing puzzel piece is just a job that fits me and my wants. Im ready to get dog pilled.

The job reached out to me. Every single one I wanted went sour but this one paying me 24/hr for entry level worked out when I have no job experience. Now I just need to manifest my girl back. Ik she loves me, I'll reach out on her bday. We all gonna make it.

Going onto night 4 then day 5 of robotic affirmations. Also combined with 3 days SR.

>>40540582
How can I visualize a "Good looking" person if i have e never met them before. Would I just visualize a scene where they are turned away from me or something?

>>40541252
your mind says you are under attack.
whose mind is it?
as long as you keep putting the blame on the outside, there is no chance. take responsibilty.

>>40543969
What is your opinion on robotic affirmations?

>>40535797
Honestly, the affirmation Murphy offers as "the solution" in the pic feels just as passive and archaic as the rest of the affirmations he's teaching.

The difference between "I am wealthy" to "I am being prospered" - especially if this prosperity is affirmed for wealth - doesn't seem great enough to matter.

>>40541574
>So is GP just a general appearance?
a GP is a general person, as opposed to SP which is a specific person
You can make a bunch of people appear who have random appearances (not specified), or you can make a bunch of people appear who have a specific "type" or style of appearance.
>They can be completely customized - do I have to customize, choose everything?
You can be as detailed as you want. Make it general and vague, or be very specific. If you make it very specific, what is most likely to happen is that people will start appearing who "sort of" look like your manifesting target. Then they will look more and more like your target. As it keeps going, they will get closer and closer to the target in your mind.
>How much detail do I need?
you can do a little detail, or a lot of detail. it's your choice.
>. I've tried to visualize fantasy girls going to bed and my mind redirects.
Then level up and level down, according to your results. If you get fast and easy results, then try something more difficult. If you try something and get no results (or very shitty results), then try something easier. Then do that over and over again, until it's easy, because it's skill you can train. Then once it is easy, try something more difficult

>>40541574
>real girlfriend question though: I often tense up when I imagine happy times with an imaginary girl. How to navigate the mental imaginations such that I don't tense up, so I can experience those pleasures?
this is resistance
you need to learn some shadow work techniques to figure out why you are tensing up
I suggest IFS for beginners

>>40541857
>Am I doing it correctly? Ive made it my mission to meditate on a single thought so I can finally obtain a job Im content with. Basically this is the thought im meditating on
the way to know if you're doing it correctly is if it works. If you are getting good results, you're doing it right. If you are getting bad results, you're doing something wrong (probably because of resistance and lack of self knowledge)

>>I want a job that is only 30 hours a week, thats paya $20 an hour, that runs Monday to Friday, that doesnt drug test, that ill be content working at for the foreseeable future, a job that comes with a work/life balance so I have time for vacation, friends and family, and I want it by August/September of 2025
>I under that I might not get 100% of my thought
as far as this goes, I see no problem with what you laid out
The only question is your technique, and are you doing it right. Have you ever got results before?

>>40544511
I honestly just started today. So we will see what comes of it.

>>40543854
>How can I visualize a "Good looking" person if i have e never met them before. Would I just visualize a scene where they are turned away from me or something?
just think of it verbally.
"I will see a hot girl"
"I will see a hot brunette" "I will see a graceful beautiful woman"
Whatever you want, really. You can manifest any kind of person, with any kind of appearance.
or, imagine some hot girl you can already imagine, maybe based on someone you've seen before, or perhaps created entirely from your mind just using your imagination/creativity
It doesn't need to be super detailed, you don't need to get it exactly right. You can do it vaguely and just imagine the vague appearance of a woman and then verbally think "This is a hot woman. I will see her"
It's not like you need an exactly photorealistic imagination with perfect visual recall or anything like that. you can be vague. It's just based on your feeling. If you she is hot, then she will be hot in real life
Or tall, or short, or whatever

>>40544334
>Honestly, the affirmation Murphy offers as "the solution" in the pic feels just as passive and archaic as the rest of the affirmations he's teaching.
>The difference between "I am wealthy" to "I am being prospered" - especially if this prosperity is affirmed for wealth - doesn't seem great enough to matter.
the way he's talking about avoiding mental conflict is... really really shallow
I'm not sure if that's the extent of his knowledge on shadow work or overcoming resistance, but if it is, then he really has no qualifications for teaching anyone (except for people who already have no problems with resistance)
Whenever someone says "I have this easy way to overcome resistance, just do this one little trick", they have no idea what they are talking about.

>>40544519
>I honestly just started today. So we will see what comes of it.
good luck
I hope you figure it out
just base everything you do on results. If you get good results, keep doing it. If you get bad results, try something new. Always always based your actions on your results.

>>40544538
Understood. I plan to chant it as much as I can, I need this bit of my life to change, so im committed. Thank you.

Can't get over a block it seems

Is:

>a male's left side of the body is feminine and the right side is masculine (the straight eyebrow)


stems from bloodline,But a female has that usually mirrored! Google fistula too see that some women can come from dad's thus can have that (mirrored) Other females have both crooked, Men except for Adam still have some femininity on the left if they themselves come from dad, Hope this helped. God bless.

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>>40537574
If Neville wanted money from people he wouldn't tell them about his multiverse shit since it was super unpopular. I think he said he'll preach to the empty walls if people dont want to listen

I might be in the autistic spectrum. I have a pretty nasal voice and it's hard for me to be taken seriously by others. Having an intellectual mind, great ideas, passion for knowledge but a shitty voice as an hurdle in the way to make friends. Today I joined a vc, talked a bit and someone laughed at my voice. Felt really bad about it.

Got called good looking by strangers, but I'm also a sperg with an eccentric and erratic personality. Even if I try to sound badass and cool, I still lack the deep voice that domineering Chads have. It's like a kitten trying to be brave. This takes away my hopes of communicating my ideas in voice communication. Some people especially girls say that I have a soothing voice but I interpret is as being feminine and weak in their eyes.

Is there any way to manifest a deeper voice or anyone into it? I want to have a more masculine, domineering and deep voice so I feel a balance between my masculinity and intellectual ideas. Maybe doing robotic affirmations until I feel I have a deep voice may be a great method.

>>40547218
surgery

>>40547264
Nah, I don't want to take up smoking but it seems there's not other choice. Fucking my lungs for a better voice.

>>40547298
There's voice deepening surgery

>>40522888
nice dub trips

>>40547218
there's 10 million videos on youtube about talking from your diaphragm vs your throat.
if you lay on your back on a hard surface you're forced to use your diaphragm due to body mechanics.

Affirmations just to do them is pointless if you are still desperate and wanting. Embody the state of abundance.

>find old journal from 2020 when I found LOA and Neville
>full of cute stickers, texts, affirmations
>really positive about life and its magical potential
>"OMG I CAN DO MAGIC AND I'M HEALTHY; HAPPY; WEALTHY AND SO ARE MY LOVED ONES!"
>nothing really happened since then and some stuff got objectively worse despite having been more positive and relaxed than ever
>life just keeps going

I feel so bitter and disgusted seeing me scribble like a happy kid thinking I'm some kind of witch who is gonna have a grand adventure. I really want to just rip apart and burn all of that shit, I hate being reminded of being a hopeful fool.

Yeah blog post or whatever, but that's how I feel. Maybe someone can relate or not.

I manifested mossad getting hit,
Yesterday, today it happened.
I also asked it to make me pass a test but they havent given me the results yet, but thr excercise i could find the answer intuitively

>>40549091
>>full of cute stickers, texts, affirmations
>Affirmation on book
Do sats, Considering your state you re either tbe blackpillers or dont have anything to lose trying sats

>>40549665
I've done that (SATS) too. I was quite negative for years and got into a positive high for over a year through LOA. I would fall asleep with the feeling and my visions. It felt all very real and good. Then for example, I got then suddenly very sick (woke up paralyzed like a stroke, hospital couldn't find out why although they've done all the tests... still have some effects from it) which left me with strong PTSD about my health to this day. It makes me scared to even touch LOA because it happened when I felt the best about myself and had took only positive visions to sleep.

Not saying it doesn't work for others, maybe it does for you and that's great, but to me I have gained so much bitterness from being let down from this high and hope that I can't even look at the practice without feeling hate at myself and it.

I've noticed that semen retention makes your manifestations come quicker and far more powerful.

>>40549701
How many days of retention?

>>40547218
>Is there any way to manifest a deeper voice or anyone into it?
you just practice talking differently, then you just do
The way you talk is a choice. It's not something you're born with. So learn how to talk differently, and then do that

>>40535838
The dude just got the extreme luck to get discharged before being thrown into the actual battlefield when drafted to WW2, and he just got high on his own shit, believing that it wasn't luck, but him that did it. That's the only relevant thing he supposedly manifested in his entire life: an once-in-a-lifetime hit of luck that he never could replicate, not even close, for the rest of his life.

I bet you that his rich family moved some strings to get his ass back into America safely, and they just didn't tell him about it, or he still thought that his family doing that was that bridge of things that were to happen for him to get out

>>40549687
>Then for example, I got then suddenly very sick (woke up paralyzed like a stroke, hospital couldn't find out why although they've done all the tests... still have some effects from it) which left me with strong PTSD about my health to this day. It makes me scared to even touch LOA because it happened when I felt the best about myself and had took only positive visions to sleep.
okay, then figure out why it happened
Sounds to me like this was resistance.
Just as your life was getting better, BOOM something happened that knocked you off course.

> I would fall asleep with the feeling and my visions. It felt all very real and good.
And perhaps, more importantly, did it actually work at all?
Feeling good in your imagination is great, but if you weren't getting results, then you were doing it wrong. or you had resistance

Seems to me like had a lot of resistance. You can feel fine consciously, but very not fine subconsciously. You need to do shadow work my friend. It's not all about manifesting positive things. You also need to explore the negative things in your subconscious that are holding you back, and heal them.

>>40550259
The things I want don't seem possible in this reality anyway and I was dumb to think so. Even manifestation "masters" get sick, get old, struggle and so on. I suppose the true paradise is in the afterlife.

>>40549977
I achieved things within the 5 to 13 day range but people also report stuff further along.

>>40550253
>Manifest divorce with wife in which she shoplifts so he defends her in coirt and she gives him the divorce
Yeah no.
Keep coping

>>40550271
>The things I want don't seem possible in this reality anyway and I was dumb to think so. Even manifestation "masters" get sick, get old, struggle and so on. I suppose the true paradise is in the afterlife.
okay, so what I'm gathering from this is that you never got results
Scale up and scale down, according to your results. If you're not getting the results you want, try something smaller and easier. Until you can find something you CAN do.
Then do that, over and over again, until it becomes easy
Then level up the difficulty, and do something that is somewhat hard. Do that, over and over again, until it becomes easy
Then move up to the next thing.

Manifesting is a skill, and it's just like weight lifting. You start with a weight you can lift, and do that. Then lift heavier weights until you find something that's difficult. Then you lift that weight over and over, until it becomes easy, then you go to even heavier weights.
You need a training mindset. Feeling good in SATS and feeling it's "really real" doesn't mean shit if it doesn't actually happen in real life. Results are the only thing that matter. Based everything you do off of results.

>>40550928
Are you beautiful, rich, supernatural and exceptional?

>>40514773 (OP)
works on my machine

>>40550986
>>40550986
>
Yeah
>
i manifestet money before, but now its just free stuff,
>
Highest iq at my uni

>>40550928

Nah you can manifest big desires right away, it might only take longer, but even that is a limiting mindset

>>40551025
>Nah you can manifest big desires right away
Yes, that is possible, depending on the person
But if someone cannot manifest a certain thing, then they should scale down and focus on what they CAN do
Do that over and over again, then scale up from there. Build up the skill, and prove to yourself that you believe it is possible, that is is "just easy".

If what you are doing is not working, then you need to try something else.
>but even that is a limiting mindset
A manifest attempt not working is not only caused by a limited mindset. It can also be caused by resistance. It's not just what you consciously believe or what your conscious mindset is, but also how you feel. And how you feel can be very complicated. Untangling subconscious resistance can take some time, and that is called shadow work.
your conscious beliefs and mindset is just one side of the equation. "Just believe harder bro" "you must have not believed hard enough" is incomplete. There is also subconscious resistance to take into account.

>>40551083
>But if someone cannot manifest a certain thing, then they should scale down and focus on what they CAN do
>Do that over and over again, then scale up from there. Build up the skill, and prove to yourself that you believe it is possible, that is is "just easy".
in other words, your actions and habits can change your own beliefs and "prove" to yourself that a certain thing is possible.
It's not all about beliefs and just sitting in your room manifesting stuff and waiting for it to happen. That's the purely mental way of doing it. But it doesn't work for everyone.

How does manifesting work for normies? they think they need to "Work" for money. So they work. They think they can't get, or don't deserve a certain amount of money. So they make a small amount of money. But after a while, they get accustomed to that, feel that is now "normal". They expect it, take it for granted. So if they make 30,000 a year, why not 32,000? So they get a raise. Or maybe they find a new job with more money.
In other words, their actions and habits influence their beliefs. If you could just manifest your way into getting everything you want, no one would have difficulty. So overcoming that resistance, to do bigger and better things, THAT is the real key here. How can you manifest bigger and bigger things? What are the skills and tools necessary to overcome resistance, and manifest even more?

And for most people, progressive overload (just like lifting weights) is what does it. Find something you CAN do. Do that, over and over, until it is easy. Then do something more difficult. Do that until it is easy. Then level up even more

Your results are the thermometer for your manifesting. If you life sucks, then your manifesting sucks. If your life is getting better, then it is working. Everything is based on results.

>>40551136
>But after a while, they get accustomed to that, feel that is now "normal". They expect it, take it for granted. So if they make 30,000 a year, why not 32,000? So they get a raise. Or maybe they find a new job with more money.
oh, and this is the "effortless" manifesting that people talk about
That is how it should be, and it's a signal for you to level up and try something harder.
Once something becomes "easy", "natural", straight forward, and basically something you can do at will and you know it will work, then that is your new baseline. Now level up to more difficult stuff.
It's just like weight lifting. Getting to that state where it's "just easy" is the goal, and it's a signal to now lift heavier weights.

>>40551083
>Untangling subconscious resistance can take some time, and that is called shadow work.
NTA, but you've created this mustache twirling villain called a subconscious. You've also created (manifested) a requirement that you need to work through its "very complicated" mysterious issues.
>"Just believe harder bro" "you must have not believed hard enough" is incomplete.
There is your belief.
>There is also subconscious resistance to take into account.
Here's another belief of yours.
>>40551136
Manifesting is not like working a muscle. It all boils down to belief. That's it.

>>40551249
>NTA, but you've created this mustache twirling villain called a subconscious.
Sorry bro, the subconscious is real
But hey, if your thing works for you, then great. Keep doing whatever works for you. That's totally fine and if you get good results, then keep doing what you're doing
>You've also created (manifested) a requirement that you need to work through its "very complicated" mysterious issues.
It depends on the person. Some people have no issue with this, other people do
>>"Just believe harder bro" "you must have not believed hard enough" is incomplete.
>There is your belief.
If you can do without, then go for it.
>>There is also subconscious resistance to take into account.
>Here's another belief of yours.
No, I'm pretty sure that's real. But again, if you get good results otherwise, then there's no reason to change

>Manifesting is not like working a muscle. It all boils down to belief. That's it.
Again, it depends on the person.
Some people can just instantly believe whatever they want, and they get it right away with no difficulty.
But most people run into problems where they can't manifest something. Why is this? Why can't they "just believe"? Why doesn't "just believe harder bro" work?
Well because of resistance. And resistance is based on your emotions. It's not logical. Why wouldn't I just let go of whatever bull shit that's holding me back and get out of my own way? It makes no sense. Because it makes no sense to your conscious mind, and is emotional in nature, it's probably subconscious

That is how resistance works. I'm happy for you, that you can just believe whatever you want, get it easily without any difficulty, and anything you have tried to manifest just works with no effort. Great. Good for you.
Unfortunately, most people don't have that experience, and have to deal with resistance.

>>40535715
Opinion on being fully focused on affs Vs affs as 20% of your mind while the rest drifts off into random unrelated thoughts?
I'm not talking about affirming and doing physical activity, I'm talking about the fraction of your attention on affirmations Vs other thoughts, when just sitting or lying affirming, not doing anything else.

>>40551311
>Opinion on being fully focused on affs Vs affs as 20% of your mind while the rest drifts off into random unrelated thoughts?
test it, and try it out for yourself
See what works best

>>40550892
>Imagine hating your husband so much, you commit a small felony to socially disgrace you for the rigidly brutal conservative society you live in to accept that you are unsuitable to be married, and that your husband is completely justified in divorcing you.
Neville really had to be insufferable behind closed doors, holy cannelloni. Also, something really minor compared to avoid dying in a trench fighting the nazis, get fucked.

>>40536398
Neville is based.
There is no baggage.
It all works, no need to deny anything but one's personal favourite method.

Though any teacher can be good or bad depending on your beliefs about them.
I choose to have faith in Neville.

>>40551366
There's this thing Vadim zeland says about the answer lying on the surface, it's trippy:
>the corrext solution always lies on the surface.
(not sure it's fully correct though, the correct solution may seem to the uniniated to be external struggle (rather than loa), which can be suboptimal.)

>>40551249
Based believer.

>>40550259
>Why
Neville said he never asked why, when someone came with a problem, just "what do you want?", then proceeding to imagine.

>Negative "fact" (which doesn't even exist)
>Why
>Negative cause
>e.g. blaming society, parents, yourself, God, nature etc.
>Now you have negative facts + negative theory

(Exoteric) Reason is not the way. Reason just adds a conceptual layer on top of sensory data, reinforcing it. Which is fine if your external situation is positive, but if you use reason to interpret negatives you are just building negative theory on top of negative facts.

But yeah this negativist root of obsess over "limiting beliefs" "resistance" "negative thoughts" then consciously let them go is interesting, albeit dodgy.
Neville obsessed over the positive wish fulfilled instead.
Also does anyone have any more insight into Lester Levenson..?

>>40551553
*route

>>40551553
>>Why
>Neville said he never asked why, when someone came with a problem, just "what do you want?", then proceeding to imagine.
okay, that's great, but things manifest for a reason
Why do negative things happen? Because you manifested them
Why does a certain bad thing keep happening? Because you are manifesting it over and over
How to stop this from happening? Figure out why you're manifesting it, and stop it. Then manifest something better in its place. Or maybe it will just go away if you stop manifesting it

>But yeah this negativist root of obsess over "limiting beliefs" "resistance" "negative thoughts" then consciously let them go is interesting, albeit dodgy.
>Neville obsessed over the positive wish fulfilled instead.
Well, bad things happen because of bad feelings or bad thoughts, which are manifest into bad things. Good things happen because you had good thoughts or good feelings, which then manifested
Neville talked many times about not having bad thoughts about other people. "Never wish things to happen to other people, that you would not want to happen to you"
In other words, love thy neighbor
And it's correct. You shouldn't think negative things about other people, or wish harm on them. That sort of thing is likely to manifest bad things into your life.
So you should just be positive all the time. Wish good things for yourself, good things for other people.

this loa shit is so gay or being a little god when you are a soft princess kind of person and want to be SAVED by your prince

because it all depends on you and your shitty mindset
and my hormones drive me crazy
asking to be saved doesn't work becuase "hurr you have to be strong and manifest and if you cave in its over"

Retain your semen and affirm, affirm, affirm.

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>>40520551
I was excited to get an early day out of work last Friday. And I mean really pleading it was a straight forward fix. I wanted it a little too hard, a 1:30 PM day turned into a 7:30 PM day due to a coworker fucking me over. It’s manifestation alright. But in the reverse of what I wanted

>>40520683
I was a little kid when ninja turtles came out. I was in the hospital. I prayed to God to make a Krang toy, it didn't exist yet. My mother showed up the next day with a Krang figure.

>>40553077
nice bro

Neville is an omnipotent, almighty entity because he manifested a rain on school days and manipulated his mother into not going to school.

Based Larpille.

>>40550253
>got the extreme luck to get discharged
Funny how "luck" works like that, innit?

If LoA is a legitimate system why aren't all narcissists powerful, successful, influential, millionaire, and superior to everyone else?

LoA is basically narcissism under an intellectual/spiritual facade.

>muh narcissists feel deep down they're losers
No. They believe they're superior to other people and some of them are not even close to success or greatness. The typical far-fetched excuse of not believing enough is a fallacy. This argument debunks the entire premise of LoA.

>>40554031
I once manifested a flood causing a week long extension on an assignment by assuming I would get it done in time.

very good stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/1aiwna9/affirmations_are_goat_literally_everything_you/

Picrel could represent time on x, state on y, flipping into new state then stabilizing.
Ofc I'm not saying it's the only possible dynamic (there are infinite mathematical functions).

>>40554188
How does chanting and visualizing something make someone a narcissist? Your post reads more like a narcissist than anything else on this thread. If they chanted "Im the best!!! Better than anyone!!!" Sure, but chanting and visualizing say a better job isnt being narcissistic.

>>40554320
All separated consciousness is narcissistic and psychopathic to a degree, if you wanna use those terms.
But it is better to just use spiritual terms not pathologizing psychological terms.

If someone is unpleasant/narcissistic you don't acknowledge/affirm it, you just rethink/reimagine them.
You don't react:
>Aaaah they're an evil narcissist reeeee!!!
That's just creating/reinforcing the negative.

Very basic thought control.
Why do you even need to use the word narcissist(ic) ever? You don't.

Can you use imagination negatively? Yes.
But it doesn't mean imagination as a whole is negative.

>For you’re told in the Book of Deuteronomy, “I place before you this day good and evil, life and death, blessings and cursing; choose life” (30:19). He suggests that you choose life, but he can’t take from you the right, having set you free, to choose anything you want. So he puts before you life and death, good and evil, blessings and cursing, and suggests you choose life; but he cannot deny you the right to choose anything. It’s all spread before you.

Also if a soul wants to play on the dark side, to be evil for a bit, who are you to judge that? It's just another part to play, another experience, being the villain.
They can choose that and go to that version of themselves and you can reimagine them how you want and get that version.

>>40554400
i.e. a soul has the right to absolute freedom,
It's all a dream anyway

>>40554188
Loa is obviously a scam, but narcissists tend to live better lives than their humble counterparts. It's not magic or rocket science, it's just that narcissists won't usually stop at anything to get what they want, and won't let others reach the level they have, all of this without remorse. Most politicians are narcissistic, for putting an example, and you have to be one if you want to get ahead, especially in the high spheres

>>40554400
>Why do you even need to use the word narcissist(ic)
B-because you did?

The concepts of "individual subconscious resistance" and "erasing limiting beliefs" aren’t contradictory, they’re sequential stages in mastering this universal law. Both hold truth, but as third-density beings, we must acknowledge the necessity of gradual progression. No one can instantly erase their limiting beliefs, beliefs that etched into the subconscious over their lifetimes. These are shaped by lifelong conditioning (external influences, personal conclusions about reality), past-life imprints, and pre-existing frameworks before encountering this law.

Few, if any, discover this law uncorrupted. Most first grapple with subconscious resistance;,a shadowy battleground of ingrained patterns. Only later does one realize the true endgame: dissolving limiting beliefs holistically (mind, spirit, and body), not through superficial affirmations but embodied enlightenment. Timing varies wildly. The Buddha required countless incarnations. Yet here, some still confuse daydreaming with visualization. To prematurely demand belief-erasure risks harm. Guidance must meet individuals where they are. Let’s collaborate patiently, phase-appropriately without conflating beginners’ struggles with adepts’ breakthroughs.

>>40554474
im not that anon:>>40554188

>>40554492
use your own words

Doesn't work without semen retention. NG had great results because he wasn't pulling the todger every 30 mins.

>>40554998
Uhh and how do women manifest pray tell?

>>40555034
Through sheer belief that they will gravitate towards you. I know women throw themselves at me and so they do.

second causes

>>40555049
That's now what I asked. How do women manifest they can't retain semen.

>>40555087
Women have different sources of energy. For men, our life force is our seminal fluid. No idea what it is for women, wouldn't surprise me if women are most spiritually active when extracting semen from men like spiritual vampires.

>>40555095
>tfw female virgin
It's over

>>40555122
I don't think it is a requirement I just think SR helps it being more powerful and coming quicker.

the Babu X Bobu gated thoughts mechanism
tell me about your ladders.. do you climb up into unawareness or climb down into the black void

>>40514773 (OP)
How would you manifest your own death? Would it count as a suicide? I want to pull the plug on this life and start over

>>40555417
I personally recommend the near death experience
You get the raw unfiltered presence of your own sub conscious
Set and forget - you already died because maybe you actually did

>>40551953
you are a bitch nigga. bitch niggas do what they can but real niggas do what they want.

Conclusion is Command. If you believe X thing will do Y. It will. "Everytime I brush my teeth, I get richer". Everytime I visualize something it happens.

It's all about intention and reminding yourself that you are "I AM" that you are not just your thoughts, feelings, emotions.

You need to update your 4D. The key is to find out which way to do it best for you.

Is it a simple ritual like lighting a candle, dwelling on the thought or Is it affirmation? visualization? sigils?

If you believe it works, if you remind yourself that your higher being is taking care of you. you'll see results.

Now my questions is. How do you really convince yourself that it works. True intention coupled with doing something to achieve it. Meditation, Sensual Deprivation.

Why do most of my manifestations just happen out of nothing by having X thought and thinking "Hey it would be nice to have / experience X".

I already know the answers. "Just try out different methods". "You need to not put much effort / thought / importance into it".

I'm tired bros. I'm tired of manifesting menial shit, like dating partners or small amounts of money here and there or my favorite foods, or a trip to somewhere. yeah that's nice and all, but I want out of it, I want financial freedom. I want a wife. I don't want to have to meditate each time I want X. "Hey are you hungry? Just manifest an apple" "Hey do you want sex? Just manifest a girl to have a one night stand"

>>40556292
hey, are you dissatisfied? just manifest satisfaction, bro

>>40556292
>Why do most of my manifestations just happen out of nothing by having X thought and thinking "Hey it would be nice to have / experience X".
because methods DON'T DO ANYTHING. they're tricks. pranks you play on yourself. what precedes doing a method? the conclusion that methods are necessary, or even just the 'delusional hope that they MIGHT work.'. re-read the first sentence of your own post.

>>40556459
but if methods don't do anything. Am I just supposed to sit there until by random some urge in my occurs that I want to have or do X and forget about it? At that point I'm not even commanding I'm just being aware of what's to come.

I'm killing a few adult human beings in self defense and not being found guilty of any crimes for doing so.

>oh wow you were attacked and had to defend yourself?? they tried to kill you? you killed BOTH of them? that's soo scary!!!!

just put on a song called "lost kittens"
and a cat spawned outside my (open) door

>>40554188
>If LoA is a legitimate system why aren't all narcissists powerful, successful, influential, millionaire, and superior to everyone else?
because you're missing a part of the picture
narcissists can still hate themselves. They are deeply afraid of admitting any mistake or any wrongdoing. So they are not very good at overcoming challenges or flaws.
They work, up to the extent that their natural talent allows, and then when it becomes hard and they can no longer say they are the best, they find something easier and faster.
Then they do that easy thing, get good results, and claim they are the best again.
But ultimately, deep down, they have a lot of negativity. They will never admit this, or allow themselves to go to that place.
So there are some things that are locked off to them. Certain spiritual practices which they will never want to try.

>>muh narcissists feel deep down they're losers
>No. They believe they're superior to other people
I can see you've never experienced a narcissist breaking down and turning into a crying little child who wants mommy. That's what they are, in the end. They are weak children, who gaslight themselves into thinking they are strong and respected. It's all a facade. that's why they put so much effort into maintaining their "image".

>>40554273
>very good stuff
>https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/1aiwna9/affirmations_are_goat_literally_everything_you/
>Picrel could represent time on x, state on y, flipping into new state then stabilizing.
>Ofc I'm not saying it's the only possible dynamic (there are infinite mathematical functions).
cool, thanks for posting. I'm reading it now

>>40554492
good post, thanks for writing that

>>40555417
if you really do want to die, then just jump off a cliff
if, in reality, these suicidal thoughts are happening because you're unhappy and your life sucks, then fix up your life

>>40556292
>I'm tired bros. I'm tired of manifesting menial shit, like dating partners or small amounts of money here and there or my favorite foods, or a trip to somewhere. yeah that's nice and all, but I want out of it
then I would suggest you start doing some heavy duty stuff
like NDE, OBE, astral projection, shamanic transformation
Go and do something big, that triggers a change within you.
What you've been doing has gotten old. So do something new. Do something big.

>>40556803
already did obe and I don't see the point in all of those, how are they going to get me what I actually want.

>>40554998
not a coomer, been doing SR for two months now. but it really doesn't matter. Goddard talks about this, whether you smoke, drink, have sex, or do none or some, it doesn't matter.unless you believe so

>>40556900
>already did obe and I don't see the point in all of those, how are they going to get me what I actually want.
alright, so then you didn't do enough
Do more. Go wild
If you ever had an experience like that and say "Well, what was the point of that?" then you didn't really have a transformative experience
So go back. And go wild. Go extreme.
As far as how they can get you what you want, they transform you, and make you more magically powerful. There is more "you". Your self or soul becomes larger and more brilliant, you can see more, etc

Can i manifest good things for other people saw this middle aged lady working in a store feels bad man

See sadness in her eyes like i feel bad so can i like give her good vibes

>>40555516
How would I go by consciously choosing to experience this?

I actually did have a short out of body experience a few years ago, but with was unintentional and before I knew about all of this LoA stuff.

It also happened while sleeping, so, quite easy to pass off as just a dream, but still a profound experience.

>>40557268
>Can i manifest good things for other people saw this middle aged lady working in a store feels bad man
>See sadness in her eyes like i feel bad so can i like give her good vibes
yes, you can give other people good vibes
but also remember that what you see in the world is based on what's in your heart
So make sure your mind and heart are clear. Wish good things for yourself, and good things for everyone else.
The easiest way to do this is cleanse yourself and heal yourself of any negativity. This might take some time to "stick". but you can definitely do it in a little burst, and see how this changes the world around you.

>>40514773 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily destroys the very foundations of pissrael now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever hated pissrael is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense destruction and endless torment and failure the pissraeli now enjoy

retard question here:
how do i ensure that i do not eat shit and accidentally cause something bad to happen to me travelling next month because i've had repeated intrusive thoughts with emotion behind them for weeks about it and i'm trying to make sure i don't fuck myself over

>>40557565
>Things are wonderful. My family easily destroys the very foundations of pissrael now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever hated pissrael is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense destruction and endless torment and failure the pissraeli now enjoy
lmao nice

>>40558033
>because i've had repeated intrusive thoughts with emotion behind them for weeks about it
shadow work my man
you need to explore these thoughts and feelings, and address them
Why are you having these negative thoughts? What is the root of them. This is basic shadow work stuff
Remove the negative thoughts, and you won't manifest negative events
focus on your positive thoughts and feelings, and positive things will manifest.

Is it immoral to manifest sexual relationships?

>>40558101
>Is it immoral to manifest sexual relationships?
no, because it would only manifest if the other person also manifested you (meaning it was their desire)
As long as you're not manifesting rape or whatever, you should be fine. Just manifest that "I like her, and she likes me. we like each other."
That sort of goes without saying though doesn't it? If she didn't like you too, why would she want to be in a relationship with you?

>>40558087
I'm good at the identifying part, my problems begin with working on it.

I'd have a <1 month window to do it but basically it's a weird fear of death with a root in FOMO/feeling robbed of life opportunities. The root of them is most likely that -- I have goals that I haven't accomplished yet and while I'd love to go where I need to go, my fear more or less is about the plane eating shit and dying prematurely. I can get over the stuff consciously, ie, "it's statistically safe," but it's mainly they just randomly barge in with emotional charge.

>>40558151
What if it is with a porn star and i heard a news which shatterd my heart a bit

Is it a sign a good or a bad one i kinda has feelings for her though

>>40558223
>I'm good at the identifying part, my problems begin with working on it.
focus on the body sensations of it
that's some advice I got from the IFS people, and it works
let me link you a video on it, which also talks about the same technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQPTSLg5HQ
basically what you do is get back into that feeling
Locate where it is in your body. And what it feels like
Then touch that place (maybe on your solar plexus, maybe head, where ever it is)
then "talk" to whatever part of you is having that feeling, and be reassuring to it
the video explains it in more detail

>>40558258
>What if it is with a porn star and i heard a news which shatterd my heart a bit
>Is it a sign a good or a bad one i kinda has feelings for her though
well I'd worry about this problem if this person ever actually does show up on your life
But in any case, no it's not problem, because if she does want to be with you, then what's the problem? That means she's with it

>>40558651
Thank you anon

>>40558662
>Thank you anon
no problem. Hope that video helps

A woman is messaging me a at least 57 minutes long video today.

>>40558656
So several times i have manifested her and would cancel it becuase i thoght it would have negative consequences in my life

And i just manifested her because i focused and everytime i would try to forget her it would come back

Am i attracted to her because she is manifesting me

Regarding the news im not feeling good it gave me a hurt in my heart made me anxious

>>40558101
LoA is based on the premise that your thoughts create your reality. If you're always thinking something, you're always manifesting. So, everything that you've ever gotten was manifested.

I get where people are coming from when they say it violates free will or whatever, but you're just using the mechanism that the world already works through.

New Age spirituality is decentralized, so there's no "pope of LoA" that keeps track of correct doctrine. This is generally a good thing, but one of the downsides is that people come from other spiritual traditions and mix it with crystals and chakras and think of it as one of many laws that compete with each other.

So, "manifesting someone" gets thought of as casting a spell like you're Harry Potter. No, you're just redirecting your thought patterns that already exist. You were thinking in a way that was manifesting you not having your desired relationship, and now you're thinking in a way that attracts your desired relationship.

You're not competing with 12 other spiritual laws and overriding them or whatever. You're not even overriding the other person. I personally believe that if they manifest a different relationship, your desire will change and both of you will be happy. Some people explain it with parallel universes and all this extra woo woo, but I think that's unnecessary.

>>40559632
>So several times i have manifested her and would cancel it becuase i thoght it would have negative consequences in my life
>And i just manifested her because i focused and everytime i would try to forget her it would come back
Wait a second, did she ever actually show up in your life? Did she actually manifest?
If not, then you're worrying over nothing
>Am i attracted to her because she is manifesting me
Probably not, no.

>>40559685
Im saying certain things kinda feel spiritual and i usually tried to bury every crush i had but this one i don't feel like because i see it as a treat to myself

Maybe she is longing for me the feeling she has for me

What were you saying about the negative consequences

Did a tripfag manifest this thread?

>>40559710
>Im saying certain things kinda feel spiritual
okay, but if you got no results from this, meaning she didn't actually show up in your life and the manifest was succesful, then you are worrying over nothing
>but this one i don't feel like because i see it as a treat to myself
Then stick with it, if you want to.
>Maybe she is longing for me the feeling she has for me
I don't think so my man.
>What were you saying about the negative consequences
I didn't say anything about negative consequences. And there won't be any... because you're not going to manifest her. Again, you're worrying over nothing.
There is a difference between visualizing and manifesting. Manifesting is when it actually happens in real life
If you just want to imagine having sex with a hot girl, there's nothing wrong with it.
Keep doing it, and see what happens. Maybe a hot girl will appear in your life if you stick to it. but probably not that specific one though

>>40558151
>no, because it would only manifest if the other person also manifested you (meaning it was their desire)

>I tell this story only to illustrate a principle. You do not need to ask anyone to aid you in the answer to a prayer, for the simple reason that God is omnipotent and omniscient. He is in you as your own wonderful IAmness. Everyone on the outside is your servant, your slave, ready and able to do your will. All you need do is know what you want. Construct a scene which would imply the fulfillment of your desire. Enter the scene and remain there. If your imaginal counselor (your feeling of fulfillment) agrees with that which is used to illustrate your fulfilled desire, your fantasy will become a fact. If it does not, start all over again by creating a new scene and enter it. It costs you nothing to imagine consciously!
Neville was clear on this.
Slave

>>40559817
Um okay?
Are you trying to say other people aren't real?
Okay fine... but uh, you do know that manifesting works the other way too right?
Otherwise, how could you have a relationship with someone? they have to like you

>>40559810
I just keep persisting on the good feelings should i let go

>>40559847
>I just keep persisting on the good feelings should i let go
is that a question?
You can let go if you want. It's your choice.
If you want to feel good, then feel good.
If you think it will do something, and you want results to actually manifest, then keep trying. It's your choice
But you really should focus on results. Feeling good in your imagination and something actually working are 2 very very different things. Results are the most important thing, and your results should be your greatest guide. Everything is based on results.

Or, if you just want to feel good and don't care about results, then do that.

>>40559860
I think i get what you are saying i had only small amount of success i don't do manifestations for big things only small stuff and thats where i had success

So i should try to manifest more things get a grasp of the law

Like i made this being with her basically my only goal i want this to be magical or something

Do I need to be chanting all day? I chant for 15 maybe 20 minutes in the morning, and then sparsely through out the day. Also on the visualization part, how can I visualize something that I dont know what it is? Say I want a gf (not what Im going for just an example) Does one have to visualize how she will look? How detailed do visualization need to be?

>>40559909
>So i should try to manifest more things get a grasp of the law
yes
Practice makes perfect

>>40559950
Manifested gaming laptop ps4 ps5 a year ago still not getting it. How does time work if i domt get it in a specefic time should i manifest again

>>40559977
>How does time work if i domt get it in a specefic time should i manifest again
yes, if you don't get something in a month, try again
I'd even cut it off at a week, but if it takes longer than a month then that's definitely a no go

>>40559989
So should i manifest fucking that p star everymonth. Including the gaming laptop

But i read that if you have a manifestation and expect at a certain time and it doesn't happen manifest it again

>>40514773 (OP)
For someone with limited free time, what would you say are the most essential audio lectures to prioritize?

>>40518125
I've completely given up on SP manifesting, it's a waste of time, especially when you spent your life in rejection.

>>40562636
your conclusion is your command, retard

>>40562660
ok

>>40560044
>So should i manifest fucking that p star everymonth. Including the gaming laptop
No, if it doesn't work, you need to try something else
Don't just do the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome. So try different techniques, and figure out why it didn't work.

>>40562636
>I've completely given up on SP manifesting, it's a waste of time, especially when you spent your life in rejection.
it may or may not be a waste of time, for you, but this is one of the good reasons to manifest a GP instead of an SP
If you can't overcome those hurdles, especially if it's a difficult SP, then GP is 10x easier
You live and learn. Maybe you'll figure out how to make that one specific person like you someday. But there are plenty of fish in the sea my friend. Go out there and get em

>>40562824
This is the first time I've head of a GP, what is it, and does the same process for manifesting an SP apply?

>>40562898
>This is the first time I've head of a GP, what is it, and does the same process for manifesting an SP apply?
a gp is just a general person. It means you are manifesting a certain type of person, that fits your criteria.
It's the exact same as manifesting a SP, but you just don't care who it is specifically
When you manifest a GP, multiple people will show up in your life who conform to what you manifested, and you just pick whichever one you like best.

>>40562932
Oh I've tried this then, sort of like the general idea of the person I want to be with. I have no problem "creating" such person, the thing is they just never reciprocate those feelings.