Take it from the top.
Seriously, what are we missing here?

I just sit there and watch paint dry. tbf I can't even keep at it twice a day for 6 months let alone try anything fancy

Its not a singular thing.

>>40517453
Therein lies the confusion

Maybe stop making this thread every single day and actually try it.
>Develop the ability to sit still
>Cultivate mindfulness in your day to day life outwardly
>Bring that awareness inwardly
>observe the mind observe the body the sense
>Practice being non reactive to the mind body and senses simply observe
>Refine your awareness into concentration
>concentrate that awareness onto a singular point (the breathe)
>Unwavering on the object of concentration absorption occurs (this is meditation)
>Unwavering on the object of meditation absorption deepens into access concentration
>unwavering on the object of meditation through the access concentration state the first Jhana and a taste of samadhi is reached.

>>40516851 (OP)
Stydhexxenhammer be like

>>40516851 (OP)
easiest way for me is to use a mantra. make something up that sounds pleasing to you or invoke your god or something if that's your thing. focus on each syllable as you breathe in and out. when you find your mind wandering, return back to the mantra. eventually weird and wonderful stuff starts to happen once you practice this enough, i can't really explain it. you just have to feel it.

>>40517571
>Maybe stop making this thread every single day and actually try it.

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>>40517571
No wonder no one knows how to do this shit. You don't even know either evidently. Parroting WikiHow articles somehow qualifies you as an expert:

>Cultivate mindfulness in your day to day life outwardly
Fucking kek.

Literally means nothing.

>>40517571
unironically we dont get enough meditation threads. idk why we don't have a meditation general

>>40517453
>>40517560
This.

What actually is medtiation? It diverges so much, there's no clear "how" or even "why" - people throw out "mindfulness" but thats actually a misnomer. Obviously there's a slim chance ascended masters are browsing /x/ but I'm hoping someone can offer something actually novel ITT

The biggest hurdle for me is the idea of retaining consciousness but also becoming unaware or at least unburdened by the body. Guides say all sorts of varying shit but it never helps.
When I try to meditate its like I become hyper aware of my body. I feel my heart beat and my breathing way more the normal. I try to forget the body by trying to focus on my thoughts but that at times can lead to me just latching on to random thoughts and going on big tangents that aren't really beneficial. And if I try to focus real hard on a nothingness it ends up being so much nothing I feel the body again.
Some guides say stuff like "just be aware and let it go", others say to focus on the breathing itself which I feel makes things worse.
But maybe I'm wrong in thinking that this is what meditation even is?

I struggle to really get anything meaningful out of meditation. I’ve tried it intermittently for years but I still just don’t really understand what the point of it actually is. You sit and observe your thoughts, and then what? The thoughts don’t stop, nothing changes. I’m just sitting there and doing nothing. What am I doing wrong?

>>40516851 (OP)
>>40517453
>>40517560
>>40517934

As far as we know, studies show the benefits from "meditation" are actually just the benefits of deep focus and clearing one's mind by focusing on one thing. Tha's what meditation is about.

>>40516851 (OP)

I'll try to give you some advice as an experienced meditator.
Might work for you,

So the easiest form of meditation is mantra meditation, but I find it kind of shallow.

If you can't do any other kind of meditation,
you can start with mantras.

First you can speak out your mantras, then just say it in your mind and then just be quiet.

But if you have a better potential, then you should try deeper meditations.

Two things you need to remember is,
first
Keep your emotions relaxed no matter how much your mind wanders, try to feel relaxed.

Second
Try to focus on your sense of touch, but not just on the surface of your skin, but on the inside of your body.

You can try an exersise be very still, extend your index finger and try to feel the skin under your nail, touching against your nail.

While trying to feel your insides in more subtle way, focus on your breath or heart beat.
Relax yourself deeply, bring a complete stillness to your body.

And do this only 20-30 mins a day.

>>40517978
> When I try to meditate its like I become hyper aware of my body. I feel my heart beat and my breathing way more the normal.

That’s literally what you’re supposed to do.

>>40518164
The point is to understand your consciousness. Essentially the Vedanta gurus were psychonauts, and meditation was one tool they used to explore their consciousness.

>>40518164
The point is to be meditative,
Most of your mental issues can be solved by being observant of your compulsive behaviours .

Once you realise you're doing something irrational, you'll just be able to stop it.

And having the ability to just pause and look at things in a quiet manner in the most chaotic of life situations is the general goal of meditation.

For people who are into other deeper meditative practices it's otherwise.

>>40516851 (OP)
sit in a comfortable position and just quiet your mind

stuff will come to you, thoughts, memories, etc.

just sit with it and let it pass.

you have all sorts of traumatic memories, subliminal manipulation and so on that you never took the time to process. just sit with it and then let it float down the river. it's not who you are

you are the one watching it.

over time your mind will get quieter and quieter. just sit for 5 minutes the first day

>>40517889
>Im a Down syndrome retarded and I can’t comprehend the idea of engaging in right mindfulness when interacting with the external world

>>40518469
>But if you have a better potential, then you should try deeper meditations.
can you suggest one? i wrote >>40517649
but i've been curious about trying something different. not asking for a full breakdown, just something to try now that i'm comfortable with mantra meditation. can do my own research

>>40517889
>literally means nothing
Mindfulness; to be engaged, to be aware, ultimately to engage with any object consciously.
Outwardly; as opposed to inwardly(meditation practice) When I walk I do so with 100% awareness, I feel my feet touch the ground, I feel the wind on my skin, I see where I’m walking, my mind is not somewhere else. That is to cultivate mindfulness outwardly. The start of meditation is directing that awareness that you’ve cultivated with your outward engagement; inward. If comprehending that is beyond your intellectual pay grade then there’s not much that can be done.

>>40517571
>Maybe stop making this thread every single day and actually try it.

This, it takes months of daily practice for the average person to become SOMEWHAT good at it. Also if you are dependent on drugs/alcohol/e.t.c. then you won't get anything out of it.

>>40517978
I got 2 solutions for you: Both were useful for me in different times of my life.
1) If the feeling of the body persists then focus on it with you neutral awareness until it bothers you no more
2) Change your meditation into full-blown body relaxation and breathwork, if they body feels tight/uneasy then relax it and if the breath and heart feel uneasy too then relax them too.

>>40518469
>And do this only 20-30 mins a day.

Do it at least 2 times 30 minutes each per day actually. Meditation is a skill and it requires practice.

Between active imagination, astral travel, image streaming and lucid dreaming, which is the most beginner friendly? I want to visualize and explore the inner world but I'm not naturally good at any of these. Alternatively do you know of any more basic practices for a visualizationlet.

i don't get how people struggle with getting their mind quiet try getting a boring ass job and you'll see how easy it is to just be there thinking nothing it's not that good i prefer sleeping.

>>40521341
I can never quieten my mind even while working and trying to sleep. It's torturous.

>>40517571
I can already tell you don't know how to meditate

>>40521467
Do you?

>>40521693
Does anyone?

Smoke a bunch of weed right before

>>40521717
Weed is overrated. Just smoke a small (or big, if you're advanced enough) amount of DMT. Or take a reasonable dose of LSD/Mushrooms.

All of these options matter nil when you are completely unpracticed though, if you still don't know how to meditate AT ALL - smoking some reefer isn't going to do much for you.

>>40518532
This

>>40518532
I tried this for weeks.
I tried sitting for longer.
I tried different positions, different techniques, mantras.

The mind never "eventually" or progressively quieted.

Please someone help me.

>>40516851 (OP)
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