>>3780104
>>3782895
>>3782496
>"the Demiurge is evil"
Wrong. That is merely an interpretation of the Gnostic framework, but not its inherent interpretation is more nuanced. The Demiurge wants us all to achieve Christ consciousness and escape his labyrinth, but he also wants us to live to the fullest.
>If you have achieved Gnosis, the Demiurge and his Archons are your best buddies and personally hand you off to heaven.

new age corruption of gnosticism. not even valentinianism will you find this. stop posting and read books

>>40536508
If God is all, that means God is the Demiurge as well. Gnostics cannot resolve this paradox.

>>40536672
gnosticism isn't monistic. if you read books you wouldn't be here pretending you knew better. 99% of the threads on this site would evaporate if you all just stepped outside meme culture even for a month

>>40536508
It's specifically a Sethian interpretation

>>40536500 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinianism

>>40536500 (OP)
>achieve Christ consciousness

Give up all your possessions, your sex drive, and your bed, and your life.

>>40539751
Yeah, but the sethians are reptilians.

You also have to give up all of your hatred. That includes your anger at your own mistreatment, and even your outrage at the mistreatment of others. Thanks Jesus.

>>40536500 (OP)
Black Lodge out in force today.

Good luck!

Remember: don't get sad. If you get sad, or feel self-pity, you're creating NEGATIVE THOUGHT-FORMS that will cause CANCER, so don't do that

Oh, and do not forget to stop having sexual fantasies.

>If you lust after a woman’s beauty then you are already committing adultery. Every type of depravity destroys the soul, so therefore it is better for you to refrain from the comforts of the flesh than to destroy your life.

Thanks Jesus. Christ consciousness is amazing.

>>40539856
You are cancer.

>>40539885
I am rubber and you are?

>>40539891
Better than you.

Horrifying, isn't it.

If you spend your life creating NEGATIVE THOUGHT-FORMS, guess what happens, glue?

>>40539955
You end up on the shit hole known as 4chan completely wasting your life.
Like you...

>>40539965
Try to stay positive.

>>40539973
See unlike you I had a positive life before this so I have some perspective on the difference.

>>40539984
Look at how white its teeth are. My Father is amazing.

--Jesus

>>40539772
Are they? Please, elaborate.

>>40539903
I could feel that burn through the computer screen.

>>40536500 (OP)
I don't think the demiurge is not evil but I'm open to what you're saying. I also think it's highly debatable which God created reality and which God is here now. Also lesser gods vying for power including humanity itself. Even in humanity some look to ascend and sacrifice their humanity to become Godlike themselves.

>>40536718
If gnosticism is dualistic then gnosticism is just incorrect. Dualism is wrong. Other anon is correct to assume monism was implied as the philosophical meta has progressed beyond dualism. Saying "gnosticism is not monist" is exactly the same thing as saying, and what I hear is "gnosticism is wrong". If gnosticism cannot fit a monist interpretation of God, it is incompatible with Truth.

>>40541222
I think dualism kinda exists, but so does every other number version maybe, and somehow they might all be part of some large pattern, but I don't know enough about chemistry and subatomic physics.

You have so many more religions and myths much older than Gnosticism. Why waste time dwelling on something that potentially is already a chewed up version of other chewed up versions of yore.
FYI - Sophia doesn't exist.

>>40541275
Shrooms have taught me that dualism is at best, an illusion born of solipsistic materialism trying to cope with its own inconsistent logic. Monism just makes so much more sense, that God is everything both conscious and unconscious, both form and void; indivisible.

>>40541304
Sophia is nothing more than gnostics personifying the concept of wisdom as a female primordial consort of God.

Do you deny wisdom exists conceptually? Or do you only deny the persona-image? If the latter, you are only philosophically mud-slinging to no purpose.

>>40542153
>Shrooms have taught me...

And right into the incinerator with THIS guy. Western society is so fucking cooked, man.

>>40542175
>secular materialist
Why are you here?

>>40542175
>cooked
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>40542192
I have no responsibility to defend claims I didn't make.

>>40542200
- gets mad at terminology

- seriously considers the mad ramblings of drug-o's as though they had actual spiritual experiences.

Skibbity toilet, fag-o. I'm simply speaking to your level.

>>40542211
You still aren't old enough to post here, child.

>>40536500 (OP)
the demiurge is literally just minding his business.
how is taht evil? or do you want him to go and start shit or act like a slave or genie in order for him to be considered good?