What if "God" is only pretending to be good as bait to get us to willingly lock ourselves into eternity with him, then after it's too late he's going to pull the rug out from under us?

>that's retarded OP God never lies
How do you know that?
>he says he doesn't!

Nature is pretty simple and that seems convoluted.

>>40561334 (OP)
>How do you know that?
How do you know 100% of every historical document isn't lying? You need a reason to assert deceitfulness, other than personal bias.

>>40561364
>>40561362
>just don't question it
>don't think about it too hard

>>40561370
You need a reason to question someone's motives otherwise you'll live a life of paranoia

>>40561390
>You need a reason to question someone's motives

It's perfectly rational to question gods motives when your eternity might he at stake

>>40561334 (OP)
When did god pretend to be good? Perhaps everything you think you know about "god" is simply fabricated?

>>40561399
There's nothing to answer to though
It's no different than questioning whether you're a android. I have no reason to believe you may be one, and whatever reason you give me for why you're human would also be subject to doubt on no basis at all. You see why this is a rabbit hole?

I think God ontologically has to be good as he is the highest possible moral authority. The objective moral goalposts move with him even if he were deceitful

>>40561334 (OP)

>>40561334 (OP)
Christianity blatantly teaches an evil God.

If you fall for it, if you kneel to that evil system , you are showing yourself to all of Heaven to be a spineless slimy evil coward who just wants to hitch with the most powerful warlord.

It's not real. You're going to wake up to the Jester's face.

>>40561408
Maybe it was his religious text that says there is only good in him. It even contradicts itself after previously claiming he created evil

>>40561426
>as he is the highest possible moral authority
According to himself. I have no proof that YHVH is actually the creator of the universe and not an extremely ancient entity who uses worship as energy

>>40561428
The Jester is Divine.
You are Divine.

>>40561443
Now you're asking a different question.
I think the proof of Yahweh as God is in the historical footprint of Jesus Christ, who seems to have risen from the dead and identified himself with the I AM.

This is risking derailing your thread btw

>>40561454
>who seems to have risen from the dead and identified himself with the I AM.
How does that prove YHVH is the creator? You don't have to be God to resurrect dead beings

>>40561463
What other credible example do we have of such phenomena
I obviously don't mean someone who's heart stopped and was resuscitated

>>40561470
>What other credible example do we have of such phenomena

There have been extraterrestrial encounters where they do this. They are not less credible than the gospels, which are not actually firsthand accounts

>>40561478
Ok show me one

>>40561482
I don't have any saved but if I did you wouldn't believe them anyway. my point is that Jesus is not the only mythological story that claims resurrection from death, so why do you use it as proof of Christianity's obvious legitimacy?

>>40561548
The historical documents recording his resurrection were written independently of each other, hence the secular need to invent a "Q gospel" which probably never existed. You also have the rapid spread of belief amidst persecution, the conversion of Christianitys enemy Paul, and his citation of the 500 witnesses. You also have pagan enemies of Christianity conceding that Jesus and his followers performed miracles, as in pic related.
I have a feeling you just made up the thing about extraterrestrials, because even if such stories do exist, I have strong doubt that they'd compare to this scale. I hope you aren't arguing with me in bad faith.

>>40561569
>The historical documents recording his resurrection were written independently of each other

The "historical" documents were written from stories surrounding Jesus that were told orally. There were even other gospels but you don't believe they were legitimate because they weren't Nicaea approved.

>>40561569
>I have a feeling you just made up the thing about extraterrestrials
I wasn't. I think I was remembering stories I heard on Coast to Coast or another radio show.

NDEs generally agree that God is pure Love.

>>40561578
The gospel of Thomas didn't make it in because it has obvious gnostic sympathies and even if you did accept it, that wouldn't disprove the case I'm making. The only other document I think you could be referring to is the Gospel of Truth but that isn't even a gospel. Others were written much later.

>>40561622
>The gospel of Thomas didn't make it in because it has obvious gnostic sympathies
No shit.

>>40561637
Ok.............

>>40561334 (OP)
If God ever lied then it's game over - we would never know what actual truth was; that is hell. But God has never lied; there's no unrighteousness in him... praise God. Moreso, why WOULD God lie? He is all powerful, and could turn you into an obedient drone, if that's all He wanted.

The bible tells us He doesn't want that, He wants us to know that He loves us - and gave His only Son, in Jesus Christ, who died for the atonement of the sin of all mankind - so that we could be reconciled back with Him. He really loves us, and it's so hard to understand or comprehend - because when you look outwardly at the world, and inwardly at ourselves, who could ever deserve it.

Thank you, Lord Jesus - I love you too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yyrIFlK8c0

This could be true, but we're so powerless all we can do is hope God is good.

>>40561428
>If you kneel for a good cause Heaven will watch and revolt
Actual demonic take

>>40561569
He literally said that Jesus supernatural abilities even if proven real do not make Him the son of God because some extraterrestrial creatures who may have been for million of years alive in the universe may have similar abilities even though they do not claim to be the creators of the Universe at least in so many encounters with humans they stay silent about such matters or make humans turn each other into fleshy things like the aztecs who were obviously contacted by "sky creatures"
To get to the point, he is the definition of damned and would prefer to worship whatever his earthly heart wants, such as money or women
Which is something the bible already talks about, If you read closely Gods word give a profound explanation of realitys operational framework

>>40562971
Why would God need to pretend anything?
When He says I Am Who I Am that clearly shows a sense of total fulfillment, an absolute being who doesnt have the slightest need to play tricks with lesser creatures, the constant claim through all the scripture is that He is truthful, OP only wants to pretend as If he is within this horrible cosmic horror show with his silly take on a lying God

>>40561428
All of you Satanic clown faggots are gonna burn in hell for fucking ever. Go and fuck yourself with a big monster dildo, prick.

>>40561334 (OP)
OP fuck those retard clowns. You are already immortal. They want to deny you your immortality. Kikes are in on it. Do not believe any fucking thing that comes from a Jew. You will inherit the universe and all of these reptilian clown faggot pieces of shit are going to be flushed down the toilet. You won the game and that's all there is to it. You don't need some reptilian faggots god to receive what you already inherently have by virtue of your existence. You exist. Everything simply is. Anyone saying otherwise is a liar and a coward and they will be exposed in front of all creation at the end of time. Including all of you faggot kike motherfuckers and you black gangster bitches and all of you occult weenies that think it's funny to psychologically torture people with your bullshit religions too.

>>40561334 (OP)
Empathy is a brain function.
If there is an all knowing God, he would have to be good.

I think life has enough good stuff to imagine a pleasant eternity, why wouldnt you like to exist anon? : (

I mean I know, I understand I myself felt I dont want to exist, but come on, things arent that bad really

love is nice and infinity means curiosity never ends, new discoveries and worlds forever

the thing about eternity is to not make it a violent nightmerish hell

thats why all that shit must stay here in this world, only love can move on to the next side

>>40565267
or to say it better, you as an eternal being are here learning what love is, so you can carry that with you and have a nice meaningful pleasant eternity

if you carry all the bad shit from your life, you will bubble yourself into a hell, we must let all that shit go

and if you say to me "but anon I dont want to exist"

lets say we are the materialized thoughts of God, if we want God to rest, to be at peace (hence we are at peace at well), we must be peaceful thoughts....

if you are all day thinking "i hate life i hate life",,,,you are like an intrusive thought for God, taking a nap and making this reality in the process

if we want God's nap to be nice, and not be a nightmare, we must be peaceful loving thoughts, not self destructive thoughts, if you "dont want to exist" the key for that is embracing love for existence

>>40561362
Nature is not simple

>>40561334 (OP)
Why would God need subterfuge to get what he wants?
God could just make you be willing.

>>40566112
Because he isn't actually all-powerful.

>>40561334 (OP)
Anon, you are right and all these other idiots are wrong. I just wanted to let you know there are others out there who see the lies.

>>40566152
Then the question is pointless because we aren't talking about God.

>>40566516
Whether or not people worship the desert demon is a choice that all humans must contend with and is of the utmost importance.

>>40567010
>the desert demon
We arent talking about a desert demon.
We are talking about god.