Thread 40568005

Post the /x/ related books you're reading --occult, parapolitics, UFOs, whatever.

Pic related. Has anyone here read Dave McGowan? If not, you should. Highly recommend the following pipeline of books:

>Stage 1: Chaos by Timothy Oneil. Starts you down the MKULTRA history road. Briefly covers programmed individuals.
>Stage 2: Aberration in the Heartland of the Real - The Many Lives of Timothy McVeigh, by Dr. Wendy Painting. Describes how McVeigh was functionally a programmed individual and was used to set the stage for domestic terrorism as the 100 year boogeyman of the next century.
>Stage 3: "Programmed to Kill" by David McGowan. McGowan is a bit schizo in this one but he sketches out strange networks and occult weirdness that lead to the next stage.
>Stage 4: The Franklin Scandal. This one's a fucking bummer, pure uncut True Detective shit without the Q-Anon shitcoat operation filter.

Once you read all of these you will understand many horrific truths of our modern world.

What books do you recommend /x/?

Whoops wrong pic my bad.

Here's the McGowan book alongside Franklin Scandal.

I have read 'secret, don't tel'l till half, didn't finish it yet due to work, but it's very well written and seems crazy, btw if you are unaware it's related to hypnosis and programming. There was one case study of a young guy in prison who was programmed to do robbery by fellow prison cellmate using hypnotic suggestions, this was CRAZY AF story, i would definitely not believed it, but since it was a legal case there is full documentation of it. Definitely /x/ related.

Ive read fanged noumena and halfway through xenosystems

>>40568017
The Franklin Scandal and Eye of the Chickenhawk fucked me up for weeks. Humans are shit

>>40568005 (OP)
It’s about a an alchemist couple who end up killing themselves through their experiments
It’s the first book I bought by Peter Lavenda because I like his interviews
I think he might be a Freemason though

found this at the goodwill. certainly an ambitous text but feels like it was mostly shoehorning bullshit without any references. age of aqaurius when?

just finished Hamilton and considering where to go next

>>40572323
You disgust me

>>40568595

I've been meaning to read Chickenhawk for ages

Posting my "want to read" list to keep the thread bumped

>>40570090

Yeah Levenda is either insane or a disinfo agent from some weird group or other. Entertaining books but clearly unhinged

>>40575377
What really gave it away for me was seeing Levenda be interviewed by Nick Bryant. Peter was sticking out for Mason’s and acting like he never heard of occult practitioners abusing minors sexually
He also will fearmonger often times which is a dead giveaway that he’s a limited hangout. They always try to scare the Normies away from this stuff by acting like everything is demonic

>>40568017
Good combo

>>40577464

Thanks anon

aged like fine wine

>The 3rd Marathon Bomber had a weird shrine to all forms of terrorism, worked at MIT (as did his weird spook dad), only got arrested because of a domestic freakout in Topsfield MA against his mom who he called a "satanic witch," and then was disappeared into an insane asylum for years without facing trial and now is out and works at an armored car company with no repercussions for his literal house full of pressure cooker bombs

Sometimes I really hate being into deep-state politics

>>40581471
Aren't the recent editions of this missing chapters?
>>40568005 (OP)
It's Tom O'Neill
My issue with McGowan is he acts like anyone who has/had an interest in the occult is ultimately a satanic pedo. As if occultism is this all encompassing thing that means you're "satanic." He acts like a christfag sometimes.

Pic related is one of the most important books and always overlooked.

>>40583099
Got this lil nigga sitting on my shelf. It's gnarly, I still haven't finished it but it's absolutely chock full of JEWCE

>>40579180
collins elite glowie

>>40583206
kys satanic faggot

>>40583099
That’s my problem with most of these writers
They try to frame everything esoteric as evil. It keeps a lot of the kind souls from diving deeper into this stuff.

>>40583206
Who Redfern?

>>40583274
That looks like a good one
I enjoy Joseph P Ferrell‘s interviews, but I have the same issue with him as I do with other authors on these subjects. He makes all of this out to be evil too. And misses the nuance of what is actually happening.
I get why these people respond this way it’s just not helpful to our understanding

Embargoes by Belligerent States - 1914 Dept of the State
Has a lot of metallurgy and chemistry so I count
it as occult for that reason, names everything tariffed by Trump Admin on maritime law

>>40581444
Checked trips
This one looks good too

>>40586377

See also: "Drug Cartels Do Not Exist"

There's strong evidence the global drug trade is largely run by the CIA/the FBI and intelligence world, especially after they got deep into it to fund operations in the 70s. Once you get ahold of that golden goose, why would you stop it from laying as many eggs as possible?

I’ve posted this one before, but it’s a good one that most people don’t know about. It’s how the CIA found billions of USdollars back in the 1940s. Not in today’s value in 1940s value.
They took Yamashita’s gold which the Japanese got by raping and murdering tons of Buddhist all around Asia. That was buried in the Philippines and they used it to fund the modern CIA in the beginning of the black projects and also make themselves rich

>>40592440
Forgot the book

Read The White People by Arthur Machen for the first time recently. Fun read. Machen was apparently involved in the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn in his lifetime.

>>40588491
I always wanted to read John Keel

>>40589860
Is this School of the America's stuff?

>>40589938
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU51S26hrA

>>40596917
Why does he have all the frogs?

I haven’t read it yet, but I like his stuff on Hollow Earth so I picked this one up too

>>40589938
I read large sections of this book and liked them.

>>40568017
Good stuff and leaves you utterly fucking disgusted and furious

>>40568005 (OP)
Programmed to kill is an excellent book. Well sourced and exhaustively researched. There's nothing "schizo" about it. I used to research this topic quite a bit, even contributed some pieces that appeared into a legacy/continuation website to the book (programmedtokill dot net). Check it out, it's a wild rabbit hole.
>>40588491
This is one of my favorite books. Keel was WAY ahead of his time, unbelievably so. Ends the book in a decidedly gnostic fashion, theorizing that we are essentially controlled and monitored by an entity at the edge of the "super spectrum". His skeptical pessimism and scientific approach probably turned off a lot of new agers from his work. (Which is why I like it so much. Can't stand new agers)

>books you're reading
pic rel. One of the most touching and informative works I have ever read.

>>40598171
>Programmed to kill is an excellent book
Not really occult, but have you ever read the book "On Killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman?
You may find it interesting because it's very related to the topic of programming people to commit acts of violence without putting a lot of thought into it.

lot of extremely interesting recommendations in this thread, but does anyone have any recommendations that they would describe as good beginner books into areas of the occult or areas that better the understanding of symbolism, and books that are good for creating a general understanding of occult knowledge? im trying to read three occult books of philosophy by agrippa and the zohar (with extreme caution) but I want some other good sources for some deeper understanding

>>40603908
for understanding the basics i would suggest the secret teaching of all ages by manly p hall
its long but covers a lot of western esoteric and symbolism

good thread

been reading this

>>40578493
Hell yeah, I'm reading Against the Day right now too. On page 891 or so.

This book sucked the author blames FDR assassination on the Soviet and Eleanor
He ignores any role the Smedley Butler plotters might’ve played
I think he’s right about Eleanor being involved, but I think it was mostly Americans and international bankers who had him killed
I actually could see FDR telling them if he didn’t prosecute, then he could be president for a third term or life
And then they probably took them out

>>40581471
anything available at barnes & noble is unlikely to be the truth

>>40576880
more specifically, he was defending Aquino and giving very very poor excuses for the child knowing details about Aquino's furniture. also, the anecdote about levenda schooling aquino on false flags was hilarious

>>40608099
Soviets offered to investigate because they believed it was an assassination but Eleanor declined. That's according to FDR's son. I'd have to assume that replacing Wallace with Truman was part of the plot too.

>>40608150
nick bryant will have some esoteric/conspiracy authors on and they'll be experts but when nick brings satanic ritual abuse they suddenly have no idea what that is
im not even surprised

>>40608382
yeah. Truman was put in place to become the next president. they knew what they were doing and Truman was more anti-soviet than FDR ever could be. Harry was also from missouri or something where they had that ufo crash at before roswell
they needed one of their own who would play ball on israel's war crimes, covering up aliens, giving power to the intelligence agencies, and turning the commies into our enemy

>>40608099
>>40608382
>>40608684
it would make no sense for Stalin to take out his ally in FDR to be replaced with a young VP no one knew a lot about

kino thread

>>40608684
I started reading "The secret teachings of all ages" last night, i am very new to all this stuff so there are stuff that flew over my head but I 'm enjoying it regardless, I especially love the comparative Mythology sections

>>40610821
Sorry, I didn't mean to reply to >>40608684

>>40568005 (OP)
I started reading "The secret teachings of all ages" last night, i am very new to all this stuff so there are stuff that flew over my head but I 'm enjoying it regardless, I especially love the comparative Mythology sections

>>40610854
its a beautiful book by one of the best to teach this
rudolf steiner is another one who does tons of great work explaining the esoteric

>>40610854
it takes everyone a while to understand this stuff
its purposefully obscure and multilayered

>>40604514
Do you think his beard was really blue

>>40568005 (OP)
I'm reading the books of Dolores Cannon.

After that I think I'm done.
I'm gonna focus on the mundane And help as many people as I can as a hobby.

>>40610987
>>40611251
The author has an accessable style but it will not make up for my poor background with all the topics he talks about, the most impressive thing's the fact the author wrote this at the age OF 20
thanks for mentioning rudolf steiner.

Just started reading Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal - Vols. One & Two by Joshua Cutchin

It's interesting so far

>>40613506
The cover's fantastic, am sure the content's fantastic too

>>40613506
Looks like McKenna on the cover

>>40612545
her books are really good, if you really want to help
learn her hypnosis technique and give as many people as you can past life regressions
those therapists usually are fully booked, some for over a year out

Baron Biza.

>>40616761
>>40612545
I just looked her up, i can see she's a part of the "new age" group, i heard negative things about this group even from other occultists.

>>40617024
sorry if i sound like someone who can't form an opinion of his own.

>>40617024
Dont read them then, you wouldnt want to think for yourself

>>40617024
>>40612545
>>40616761
sorry if i sound like someone who can't form an opinion of his own.

>>40617044
I will never know until i dig my fingers in

>>40617041
>>40617056
A part of it is me being very new to this whole occult/paranormal thing and there are many interesting authors and books out there, i feel the need to be as selective as possible with my reading, of course i will never know if something is good or bad until i experience it first hand.

>>40617024
she's one of the better authors considered new age, her work is up there with Ra and Seth material in quality. Dolores goes much more in depth and has a bigger library of material than everyone ive come across except maybe Cayce and Quo

>>40617044
A part of it is me being very new to this whole occult/paranormal thing and there are many interesting authors and books out there, i feel the need to be as selective as possible with my reading, of course i will never know if something is good or bad until i experience it first hand.

>>40617101
thank you for the comment anon, i am reading the secret teachings of all age as i stated in another post here, some years back i would have laughed at someone telling me to read it, as i was repulsed by occultist and esoteric stuff but now i am enjoying this book (despite my poor background leading to bad comprehension often times)

>>40617134
>>40617101
thank you for the comment anon, i am reading the secret teachings of all age as i stated in another post here, some years back i would have laughed at someone telling me to read it, as i was repulsed by occultist and esoteric stuff but now i am enjoying this book despite my poor background on the subject leading to bad comprehension often times

>>40617110
theres the channeled alien stuff but most of that is garbage outside the very best (Ra material is from a deep trance hypnosis is probably the best of stuff, Seth material is similar but slightly older (70's) and less deep trance.
The hypnosis stuff can be good if the therapist (cannon) or person under trance can go deep easily (Edgar Cayce). Cayce's stuff can be a little harder to understand than Dolores but both talk about atlantis a lot. Blavatsky touches on these subjects but is a little harder to understand. Steiner does a great job of bridging his pyschic insights and historical research. Manly Hall focuses more on the research type content but is similar to Steiner.
its wise and understandable to limit how much you put on your plate. I personally would start with Dolores because she has so much and touches on most stuff the others do with more modern concepts as well, like alien abduction
its something youll figure out. enjoy your journey and good luck

>>40617195
Thank you, Thank you, I am just gonna follow my instinct, as long as i am having fun and/or gaining useful knowledge, that's all what matters

>>40613872
Check out the cover to part two

>>40615372
It's where the title comes from and the book expands on McKenna's ideas/philosophy.

Terence McKenna referenced the concept of "ecology of souls" in his discussions, particularly in the context of altered states of consciousness and psychedelic experiences. He suggested that psychedelics, such as DMT, could carry individuals into an "ecology of souls," implying a realm populated by various entities and intelligences.

McKenna's idea of an "ecology of souls" is closely tied to his exploration of the paranormal, death, and the interconnectedness of consciousness. He believed that the soul was a complex and diverse entity, influenced by both the living and the dead, and that this diversity was essential to the functioning of such an ecology.

>>40581444
based

>>40579180
What am i in for?

>>40598101
get your jewish propaganda off my board

>>40618760
>The author, Nick Redfern, investigates the strange world of a secret group within the U.S. Government known as the Collins Elite. The group believes that our purported alien visitors are, in reality, deceptive demons and fallen angels. They are the minions of Satan, who are reaping and enslaving our very souls, and paving the way for Armageddon and Judgment Day. In FINAL EVENTS you'll learn about the secret government files on occultists Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons, and their connections to the UFO mystery; revelations of the demonic link to the famous "UFO crash" at Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947; the disclosure of government investigations into life-after-death and out-of-body experiences; and an examination of the satanic agenda behind alien abductions. FINAL EVENTS reveals the stark and horrific truths about UFOs that some in the government would rather keep secret.

The gov't knows aliens are demons and when they weren't trying to weaponize them they were trying/failing to hold them off before the coming final invasion.

>>40619890
damn

>>40619890
IMO some of the most interesting bits of this book are the reports and memos between the different groups like the Collins Elite (CE) and STAC. STAC is likely an acronym yet nobody really knows for sure what it means. My guess is its something like Scientific and Technical Advisory Committee.

The CE maintain the non-human intelligence (NHI) are demons or Fallen Angels and believe it is time to disclose these beings to the public. STAC is anti-disclosure and has tried to control the NHI and close their "entry points" (all for naught). A recurring term in the book is the "Parsons Technique" which they did not elaborate on other than to say,
>“STAC-5—are still convinced that the “PARSONS TECHNIQUE” can assist in holding off deception, infiltration and final invasion.”

also interesting
>“STAC is now “in too deep” with its attempts to reverse-control the situation and prevent enemy infiltration and deception beyond present levels.”

So this one group STAC might actually being making things worse by continuing their efforts and/or is unwilling to stop.

Writings on magic by Johannes nefastos

>>40622812
so both groups are glowie controlled limited hangouts?
why cant we have a group that comes out and speaks the truth, some aliens are evil, and some are good but most indifferent

>>40619890
I looked into interviews conducted with the theologian Nick Redfern was working with, I personally think it's a psyop, probably with some amount of truth.

>>40624336
>so both groups are glowie controlled limited hangouts?
No, not really. The scope of the CE's mission was just to find out what UFOs and aliens are. They don't say it but its easy for anyone to conclude that if there are fallen angels there must be good angels too.

>why cant we have a group that comes out and speaks the truth
The Collins group are telling the truth about an immediate threat facing us and want disclosure. Also occultists and certain members of secret societies have knows all about this stuff for a long time.

>some aliens are evil, and some are good but most indifferent
The ones communing with the govt are evil and a threat.

>>40624426
Why do you believe that?

>>40624444
the theologian Ray Boeche, the man approached by the "collins" organization admitted the possibility in later interviews. they're on youtube if you're interested and from 2 or 3 years ago. he admitted he felt that some later interviews (with the collins whistleblowers) had them gauging his reaction rather than just approaching him to reveal information

I also don't particularly trust the Parsons narrative much either, LRH's and Crowley's involvement is just too much, it reeks of a narrative

>>40624455
Boeche was a UFOligist and did say something like it could be a disinfo campaign (similar to Paul Bennewitz if you're familiar), probably out of an abundance of caution.
What would be the motive though?

And what do you mean by too much and narrative?

>>40624472
>what do you mean by too much and narrative

the parsons - LRH - crowley story just seems to be used as a smokescreen for the "uhhhh aliens/demons didn't exist until after WW2 because uhhh they just didn't ok?" narrative some factions seem really deadset on pushing. primary reason for this, as far as I can tell at this time, is to make "ontological shock" a bit less shocking. anyone with some amount of research and a brain in the topic can see and surmise that these entities have been around doing things a lot longer than WW2 or even the magenta crash.

>what would be the motive?

too many to list honestly.

>>40624486
Have you read the book?

IIRC Boeche and the CE were aligned with Vallee’s Passport to Magonia. And believe that Crowley first opened a door and Parsons widened it.

C'mon list them. I want to hear your case.

>>40624526
>And believe that Crowley first opened a door and Parsons widened it.

I haven't read Vallee, but my opinion is pretty simple, there's a ton of historical evidence in history and mythology that suggest these entities have always been around. the entire point of the Parsons/Crowley story is shift away from hard questions like "so uh, how much have they done in history? have they effected our evolution? what else have they done?" and other questions they are quick to dismiss like ancient global civilizations and etc.

>>40624539
No I meant have you read the book Final Events by Nick Redfern?

>I haven't read Vallee, but my opinion is pretty simple, there's a ton of historical evidence in history and mythology that suggest these entities have always been around.
Thats what Vallee's book Passport to Magonia is about.

>>40622929
>Writings on magic by Johannes nefastos
Was it even translated to English? The majority of his works are in Finnish

>>40624455
Starting with Adamski, .mil intelligence has been creating alien and UFO narratives by feeding public facing people stories and "evidence".

I like Redfern but I won't dismiss the idea that he's getting fed some bullshit, in fact, it's more than likely he is.