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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:30:54 AM No.40572454
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Has someone who is browsing this board reached enlightenment? I would like to ask you a question. When you feel like life is closing in on you from all sides and you have no hope anymore. You feel like your personality has been corrupted and progress has been blocked beyond saving, yet there's still that bliss of "Love" when you are silent - but then the external world happens and all is hopeless again. What can you even do when you reach a state in that everything seems wrong? Desiring enlightenment seems very misguided - a trick of the ego -. Yet if you don't desire, you feel stagnated, and there's no energy applied into going inside yourself. If I act to solve the problems of my external world, that also seems very wrong, I start thinking "this is not the way it should be, the correct way is realizing the unreality of this situation - it is accepting the unreality of the situation and then maintaining indifference towards the perceived phenomena, without the labels of right or wrong" - yet if I don't act to correct the wrong, the "wrong" consumes me and all sorts of suffering arise. What can one even do at such crossroads? This is my question. Thank you.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:39:44 AM No.40572505
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>>40572454 (OP)

We struggled to read all those Is. Do you exist totally alone in your own reality? Try reshaping your words to include others and so will your thoughts
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:54:38 AM No.40572581
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>>40572454 (OP)
>>40572454 (OP)
Just don't think about about it and try your best to live in the present moment with a clear and focused mind and simply take action in life with whatever you feel like doing. Sometimes you just gotta act before you think and ignore everything else around you that isn't relevant in the moment, but it's important to stay clear and focused on whatever is right in front of you and don't let the uncertainty and despair of life mess with your head. When in doubt, just shrug it off and push forward. That's what seems to help me out from time to time when I think and feel like you do anyways, so I hope it helps you too. I wish you good luck and please take care anon
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:01:55 AM No.40572631
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>>40572454 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:03:42 AM No.40572639
>>40572631
which one is "geopolitics" and which one is "video games"?
Enlightened Christian
6/21/2025, 9:30:37 AM No.40572772
>>40572454 (OP)
Consioussness is awarness.
Awarness is perspective.
Perspective is the way you perceive things.

What be right for you could be wrong for another.

> yet if I don't act to correct the wrong, the "wrong" consumes me and all sorts of suffering arise.
That because you let the "wrong" consume you.

The right or wrong never existed in first place.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:49:29 AM No.40572850
I'm not enlightened. But I'm close. I've discovered many true teachings on the way. Meditation and discerning non-self and self around you and in what you perceive is the way to be more peaceful and serene.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:01:35 AM No.40572891
>>40572454 (OP)
>yet if I don't act to correct the wrong, the "wrong" consumes me and all sorts of suffering arise.

There's a term I came across, recently- that refers to the passions of life, apatheia- I think you might find it relevant in the thread of your thoughts- also- please paragraph next time


> Apatheia, in Stoic philosophy, refers to a state of mind characterized by freedom from negative emotions and passions, often translated as "impassibility" or "passionlessness". It's not about suppressing or denying emotions, but rather cultivating a detached and rational perspective to avoid being controlled by them. The goal is to achieve a state of inner tranquility and resilience, where one's emotional state is not easily swayed by external events or opinions.

There's the argument of releasing attachment and desire- but desire arguably helps us chart our path forward. It is by true authentic desire- that the universe answers our curiosity with love and grace.

What you fight against, you reaffirm- what you reaffirm becomes reality. Likewise- what you desire and walk along- you reaffirm, except in this path (the latter) you don't really know what's going to happen next, because the desire path is not walked- and there's no concrete happening (as opposed to 'wrongs', and fighting a failed system) You walk in faith, in desire.

>Desiring enlightenment seems very misguided - a trick of the ego -. Yet if you don't desire, you feel stagnated, and there's no energy applied into going inside yourself.

what you call 'enlightenment' is merely a word to capture a state of being, that is described in many other words, and ways. It is liberation, it is metta, samadhi, it's relinquishing of control. This is the limit and this is the frontier of 'language'- there are little to no instructions, but a path of feeling.

In the past, I used to think it was a 'striving' for, a climb up a very terrained mountain- but honestly, it is a dance of your own
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:13:30 AM No.40572918
>>40572454 (OP)
If possible Isolate and search your inner self for answers. And sever the things you dont need in your life.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:21:46 AM No.40572937
>>40572891
I achieved Apatheia a few years ago. I did not like it.
Before, I would cry when a character in Games of Thrones died.
Afterwards [REDACTED] dying in [REDACTED], which should have been a big event, became nothing as I remained tranquil and resilient.
What was the meaning of watching them anymore, specially when that's what my family enjoys doing the most with me?
Coming back from that to feeling emotions to the fullest and letting them control me has been hard, but I've reached the point where I believe that's the reason we came here to live, in death we can be as tranquil as we want, for the opposite we need a physical body.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:26:53 AM No.40572948
>>40572937
>Coming back from that to feeling emotions to the fullest and letting them control me has been hard, but I've reached the point where I believe that's the reason we came here to live, in death we can be as tranquil as we want, for the opposite we need a physical body.
Truth.
But which emotion do we cultivate in ourselves to respond to better, and more succinctly?
Like neuro-programming- if we react constantly to stimuli that upsets us, it becomes easier to react in that manner. Being extremely discerning on what we feed our minds.

Like the metaphor for the garden, your mind is a garden. What will you plant- what path will you carve out? Will it be Japanese styled, or french- or will you let wilderness run gorgeously and live in that chaos

Responding vs reacting is also very important to take note. A lot of people live by reacting, being triggered by stimulus. With meditation, we train our senses to be in a state of observing and non-attachment, thus giving us better time to observe and respond accordingly.

Of course, there is a certain beauty in the entropy of immediate reaction
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:55:57 AM No.40573013
>>40572454 (OP)
Well, to me the "enlightment" would be having one less paralyzing fear in my life.

Once the inevitable hit (the very thing I feared the most), I was left broken and unconsolable, and retreated into my shell in tantrums, away from the presence of God, but little by little He's been bringing me back out, and now, even though hurt still, my heart has regained new, unexpected strength, and by His power and mercies I'm now able to resume living.

โ€œSorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.โ€ (Ecclesiastes 7:3)
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:05:51 AM No.40573028
>If I act to solve the problems of my external world, that also seems very wrong, I start thinking "this is not the way it should be, the correct way is realizing the unreality of this situation - it is accepting the unreality of the situation and then maintaining indifference towards the perceived phenomena, without the labels of right or wrong" - yet if I don't act to correct the wrong, the "wrong" consumes me and all sorts of suffering arise.
I'm about a decade into being forced to confront the fact that, at least so long as I'm alive, this reality is as real as anything and totally indifferent to me, so my advice would be to avoid the temptation to focus on mystical solutions at the expense of practical solutions. If you want something to change, aiming to directly, physically change it is often capable of quickly getting results that a century of concentrated mental effort and soul searching will not get.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:23:47 PM No.40573441
>>40572850
>discerning non-self and self around you and in what you perceive
inshallah give holography and cybernetics
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:57:04 PM No.40575297
>>40572454 (OP)
>What can one even do at such crossroads? This is my question.
pause
observe
relax

wise man Mr. Jiddu says "Understanding nature of problem is the resolving of the problem" or something to that effect, so understand the nature of confusion, of the situation which makes you feel hopeless. What is the nature of hopelessness? No verbal answer required but relaxed observation IS required.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:31:30 PM No.40576607
>>40572454 (OP)
go volunteer but not for things meant for people fulfilling their community service sentence. churches have some opportunities to volunteer. make connections while doing it. the karma will benefit your life
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:34:13 PM No.40576622
>>40572454 (OP)
enlightenment is a lot like a dream you just end up there in the thick of it without realizing how you got there its not something you strive for or can hold its not like that at all and when you arrive you aren't really sure if you were ever there at all or what it even was.