What explains the evil surrounding American folklore? While other cultures are more whimsical?

>>40579980 (OP)
Americans just don't understand european folklore.

>>40579980 (OP)
You never read european folklore... the fairy tales are dark and creepy. Constant rape, incest, murder, beheadings and curses.

>>40579980 (OP)
I think the Americans land is cursed and people who live there become more evil and corrupted as time goes on

>>40579980 (OP)
literally Disney vs the internet, you're not even talking America vs US or anything you're just extremely fucking stupid wow, what a thread

>>40579980 (OP)
American folklore y a bastardization of european folklore. The only original bits are from indians.

>>40580109
I think america starts off as a land that makes you freer or more abundant, but then some who are evil deep down become more of what they are over time, and corrupt the entirety. There used to be madmax warrior cult Indians and cannibals. But also Indians with advanced ways of hiding from them.

>>40579980 (OP)
The new world is foreign, alien land. You can't expect it to be hospitable to those who didn't grow from it.

To be fair if you remove the Disneyfication of the folklore, most creatures that lurk in the forests are usually kind of assholes.
Good chunk of folklore comes down to
>Give them alcohol or food and they won't burn down your sauna or lure you to drown in a swamp.
Only occasionally are they actually kind towards you.

Though American cryptids do seem to be a step or three above European versions in being flat out violent as fuck with zero redeeming qualities.
Maybe it's because Indians weren't exactly the noble and kind people they're painted to be. They were bloodthirsty savages who killed each other in brutal ways and never left the tribal stage.
Yes the white man is really good at violence too, but at least there's the other aspect of white altruism and not being completely irredeemable.
Maybe the paranormal just mirrors our energy.
Over thousands of years indians just kept on acting like chimps and never tried to interact with these creatures on an agreeable level and ended up creating a huge rift between our species.
Then white man turned US into a modern nation in a relatively small period of time and didn't exactly get a chance to form bonds with the paranormal either.
Now what you got is a bunch of creatures that have fed off the Indian's savage energies for ages, and a white man who has no fucking idea what type of beings he's dealing with and how to communicate with them, yet he lives where these creatures used to roam.

I'm always annoyed when I see cutesy gnome art with redcaps. Redcaps are murderous little fuckers.

>>40579980 (OP)
>>40580466
nah, european folklore is cursed as fuck. those nice little disneyfied elves will take you to their world and fuck your shit up if you anger them. we have simply learned to deal with them throughout the centuries.

>>40579980 (OP)
You know nothing of the fae.

>the lands original people where rated and murdered and banished to deserts
>these new people have polluted the land and spread everywhere
>not a single corner of this nation hasn't been pimped out for profit, seen massive bloodshed, or some sort of tragedy.
I wonder why this place is haunted as hell

Ive been to American forests many times.

No cryptids or paranormal spooky shit there.

>>40580652
>Ive been to American forests many times.
>No cryptids or paranormal spooky shit there.
Well... Sasquatch is real, as well as grizzly and black bears, and mountain lions ....a few species of venomous snakes and spiders ...amoeba can kill you in a few days if you swim in the wrong lake in summer...wild pigs can really fuck your shut up...then there's alligators...but for the most part ..yeah the wild places in North America are mostly chill.

>>40580466
>Give them alcohol or food and they won't burn down your sauna or lure you to drown in a swamp.
Yeah, alcohol is always the solution

>>40580652
Why Am I having the sensation a man-eater cryptid wrote this?

>>40580007
This.
Also Europe cut down all their forests at one point or other. Not sure if any genuine old growth forest remains.
>>40580109
t. HP Lovecraft

>>40579980 (OP)
Tolkein thought the land of Ireland was evil and that only the religiousness of the people living there kept it at bay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQNMBrlR3bU

>>40579980 (OP)
You are MASSIVELY underage, or undereducated in European folklore to think euro (or any other non American folklore) as “whimsical” lol
The “pari “as ma behtarab” “jinn” “elves” “faires” are as twisted and crazy as it gets
Like in Middle East (more in foresty mountain areas like Iran Afghanistan) people were so fucking afraid of forests, that they thought sleeping at forest will cause pari to kill you. Not whimsical at all
1- they are almost immortal 2- they don’t sick and when you put both into man or anything else you see how they moral shifts
>>40580007
Yep. Like just read the hellboy comics. The way it portray fairies is the most accurate
>>40580254
Lmao yes
Just USA media bastardizing other cultures
>>40580627
Bloodshed and slavery is nothing new on this earth and I am 100% sure Middle East, Asia and Europe seen more genocide, bloodshed, and absolute carnage, way more than usa.

>>40580627
Just as one example, when a kharazmshai emissary traveled to China to see what mongols did to them, he noted how the ground was blackened from burnt human oil, FAAAR away from the city.
Or how a Muslim commander conquered northern part of Iran, vowing to feed his men with the blood of people of that region (he killed them, mixed their blood with water, used that water to make flour and fed his men)
Hell, just go read about what Jews did to people of Israel killing each and every inhabitants of those cities
In comparison, USA is pretty whimsical and tame when it comes to “killing”
Like the only way I can compare what was going on in Europe Asia and Middle East with modern media, is berserk, and that’s a joke in comparison to the real violence rest of the world had to endure.

>>40581135
Its in europe where the worst atrocities have been comitted, the us is cruel too but it gets the job done and gits

>>40581189
I think Middle East seen more killings
I think WAY more than in Europe
I mean we have Assyrians genociding elams and Jews outriggers genociding anyone they saw as “non Jews” in Israel
And that’s Bronze Age

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_pandmonium-or-the-devi_bovet-richard_1684/page/172

https://books.google.com/books?id=jtZKAQAAIAAJ
>celly vichtys

>>40581135
Aren't you just turning the fairy tale on its head?
Do you really believe thanos is coming? Is that what you would say in 500 years?
>they were a strange and superstitious people imbuing humans with special powers to keep thanatos at bay, as they were always one slip away from nuclear devastation

>>40581254
Who are you quoting?
And what’s that about thanos?
Oh and if you talking about “hellboy comic depiction of fairies is accurate” what I mean is that it’s based on how fairies were described by locals for thousands of years.
I mean think about it, the only reason we humans feel bad for sick, for suffering, for old etc, the only reason we have empathy, is that we are aware of our own mortality, and understand that ONE DAY it will be us in that very shoes, so we sympathize with their plights.
A fairy that never know suffering, sickness, death etc (or at least majority won’t) can’t and won’t sympathize with your suffering. You think getting kicked in balls real hard is suffering , no matter it’s you or another person, but to a fairy, it’s just hilarious.
In a way, they are psychopath, but unlike human psychopathy which is just delusional (they gonna piss and shit get sick and die like everyone else) their psychopathy comes from real life experience of being impervious to our everyday issues

Go learn straight from the book and get some education fucking midwits

https://cst.dk/dighumlab/duds/DFK/Dorthe/html/BILL63.htm

>>40579980 (OP)
Eurocucks = Delusional retards who create gay fantasies about literal monsters that each your face off.

Amerimutts = Rational and will drop nukes on every cryptid found.

>>40579980 (OP)
its the indians curse...... all those Target parking lots built on top of the holiest of holiest burial grounds....

>>40579980 (OP)
>>40580466
America is the main stage. Everyone else is only pretending.

>>40579980 (OP)
Euros cleaned up their land of most evil spirits. Native Americans were too weak to do the same.

>>40583407
And by the time Europeans settled in the New World, they lost their ancient cleansing techniques and were polluted with Christcuckery and later on materialism which only made an already bad situation worse. By the time Americans were mass-mutilating their male Aryan offspring to appease the Jewish demon for favors, the "alien" threat began and the US government chose to sell out their own citizens in exchange for technology.

>>40581185
Where would you read about those things? The story of the muslim commander is crazy as hell.

>>40584304
Old books man
Here is the Muslim one
>Gorgan (now Iran): commander, Yazid ibn-e Mohalleb, is described as having ordered the mass beheading of Persians to the extent that their blood mixed with water was used to power a millstone to produce enough flour for a day's meal for his army.
Old world was crazy. In Europe, one of the Biggest reason siege of vienna held strong (which inspired siege of helms deep in lotr) was that ottomon, just a few days before, attacked a city close to it, promised to let them live if they opened the gates peacefully, only to kill them all.
They were accounts of Greeks revolutionary roasting Turks on fire (like cooking them alive)
Or how in India, British put sepoy revolutionaries inside cannons and shoot them (it wouldn’t shoot them in air, just obliterated them into paste) because those sepoys killed lots of British women and children despite promising to not harm them if they open the gates

>>40584304
I wish ck3 was as crazy as the world was back then, but it’s like a mobile game now

>>40581216
>I think Middle East seen more killings
As percentages of the population, yes.
As absolute numbers definitely no.

>>40584437
Are you sure? Muslims, Turks, Mongols?
I think both number and percentage, those land seen more carnage (unless you include diseases like Black Death)

>>40584421
Some of the first things I find are relating to the zoroastrians. But I did find the iranian website as one of the sources of that statement. Ebn-e Esfandiar, Tārikh-e Tabarestān, 1320 Sh.
I have not been able to quickly find Tārikh-e Tabarestān. But I must admit, I do not know if I'm reading the information correctly. I do not know I am able to find that book in particular but I have been finding stuff adjacent to it all with the persecutions against the people by the Muslims. Granted... there's lots of history of that. I know of some including the Berber people and of course the Islamic expansion and them reaching Europe.
Honestly, I have been picking up more books on history as I've gotten older. So I guess that will be a dive for me at some point.
I will say though, compared to the old world, it is crazy how "tame" the brutality of the europeans and americans can be when you think back into history. But maybe I'm unaware of what's going on currently.

>>40580652
Weirdest thing I've experienced is just places that give off "strange vibes." And also some very strange coincidences I've noticed firsthand. Haven't really had a paranormal experience per se, a few family members have though.

>>40584622
Yeah if you look into it, you see messed up shit, like how mongols killed everyone in nishapur cause they were resisting (including their cats and dogs)
Some said city was filled with blood and a big pile of heads arranged into a pyramids, nearly a million death. (Mongols were fucking psychopaths) or how Chinese women were throwing themselves off of buildings cause they knew what mongols were going to do to them
Here is a good book to learn about what Mongols did in khorasan : Tarikh-i-jahangushay basically “history of the conquerer

>>40579980 (OP)
North America is actually a lot older than most of the world including Europe, mainly its mountain ranges.

>>40579980 (OP)

Injuns. Everyone knows the number one spook is dead injuns. UFO flap? Injun burial ground. Poltergeist? Oh theres an injun curse on the property. Alligator-Man eating children? Ancient injun folklore. Men in Black just walked through a Stargate and kidnapped a Bigfoot? Yeah that was on the sacred injun mountain.

Seriously. At the injuns are basically paranormal jews. You dig to the bottom of any paranormal case and youll always find injuns somewhere.

>>40580963
There are some old growth forests but are extremely remote
I've been to some in north-eastern Europe, it's completely otherworldly, there is a steep vibe change. I've seen things in those forests but not like you would expect. It's not like you walk around and see a werewolf or whatever, but the nature is more alive and present, if that makes sense. You can talk to trees and order insects around, you can extend your arm and something falls into your palm, you can sit down and notice something sitting down with you, or if you're unwanted there will be signs that you will understand and will want you gone. True old untouched forests are something else man, it's a genuine and real alternate dimension, perpendicular to ours and only intersects our dimension in pocket places (like the aforementioned old growth forests). I've heard of a hunter who has been there, and suddenly he noticed something weird, like the colors were more intense and also somewhat different. And as he walked around, he saw like a veil or a mirror, invisible to the eye. And when he extended his arm, he saw his arm disappear beyond that invisible veil. Also all sounds in the forest were completely gone when that happened. You can just imagine walking and simply disappearing beyond one of those veils, without anyone and even you yourself noticing until it's way too late.
And another thing, like for the ancient vikings or Northern Europe dwellers (I hate the term viking) places like ljosalfheimr were real places, not like an after life Christian heaven or hell thing. They were more like, yeah, behind that tree line in the woods is alfheim, don't walk in there. Also big rocks, there are a ton of big rocks in the old growth forests, and those big rocks are giants. Real, true, living giants, you can literally walk past them and not know it. You can be grabbed and disappear in the blink of an eye.

>>40579980 (OP)
Oh yeah, the gnomes are super funny and not dangerous at all! Why don't you come over and disrespect them a bit, nothing bad could happen from that!

https://archive.org/details/occultlaboratory00hunt_0/page/79
https://archive.org/details/descriptionofwes0000mart/page/178

>>40579980 (OP)
European folklore = not fuckable
American folklore = fuckable

>>40580109
They says there’s ancient cities in the Grand Canyon- when I lived in norther Arizona I remember driving through Seligman and flagstaff thinking “this is truly gods country something happened here”

Icelanders have sex with elves.

>>40579980 (OP)
Bad experiences with the firewater-enriched fauna probably.

>>40580511
They're like the psychotic ninja assassins of the fae realm. You see a redcap, you're pretty much fucked. Somewhere along the way, the myths lost that bit and started portraying them as fun, whimsical, peaceful little gnomes or pixies or whatever.

That is NOT what they are like. At all. Total opposite, in fact.

>>40587514
Flagstaff really is a beautiful place, been there myself. A regrettable number of hispanics though.

>>40579980 (OP)
The forest spirits are vengeful in the US and Canada because of the genocide of the natives.

>>40588241
The natives genocided each other for ages. They would raid neighboring tribes, they would take slaves of the men, women and children. There are tribes and cultures in the Americas the West has never know because they were snuffed out of existence by other tribes.

Forest spirits are morally ambiguous and kind of do what they want, just like people.

>>40579980 (OP)
American folklore doesn't seem that "evil" to me compared to the european one though. I don't think you're checking the right sources kek.

>>40581135
>The “pari “as ma behtarab” “jinn” “elves” “faires” are as twisted and crazy as it gets
Came here to post this. Nasty little demons that grow like Christmas tree lights or fireflies, almost inviting you in. But they are deeply malicious and unsettling to be around, like a swarm of wasps.

You know how we humans have an instinct to want to kill certain bugs and animals on sight? As if the world would be brighter and safer without them? That's how they feel about us. Even if you met one that could intellectualize not hating you, every fiber of its being would want to eliminate you. Or at best, toy with you.

>>40589712
>grow
glow*

http://wayback.vefsafn.is/wayback/20100404000814/http://notendur.hi.is/eybjorn/ugm/hrg/hrg.html

If you read the Islamic description of Jinn, that are interdimensional polymorphic entities, you would understand. They’re described as mostly living in remote area where there aren’t people. So Northern America with its wide wilderness is a prime location for them, just like Siberia (Taiga forest) which has the same kind of paranormal activities. While Europe is tinier, more urbanized and densely populated, so it’s not a prime location for them even though there are scaries end disturbing stories there.

And they’re generally described as being quite agressive if you enter in their territory. Thus it explain these stories of Dogman, Crawlers, Wendigo or Bigfoot that heavily freak out people or even attack them in some occurrences.

http://langzeitarchivierung.bib-bvb.de/wayback/20130102113603/http://www.historicum.net/themen/hexenforschung/thementexte/regionale-hexenverfolgung/art/haben_das/html/ca/146406bdc7/

>>40579980 (OP)
what you are missing is that both of the countries folklore is inherently evil, just a different type. The european stuff is meant/setup to be a warning for the things you should steer clear of, and how to identify something wrong. the land warps it's horrors based on the general views of the people inhabiting it.

>>40589356
this always disturbs me because when i had a false awakening as a child i saw those beings in my bed.

had a really vivid dream once about bigfoot
i was in a house looking outside and this squatch was looking at me and started gesticulating at me to come outside to follow it or something and it got pretty mad that i didnt

>>40588190
flagstaff is a shithole and a clump of ponderosa on a mountain hardly constitute a forest
Arizona is a destitute hellscape

>>40580511
>>40586240
>>40588171
>"Gnomes: the products of polygamy, incestuous breeding and coprophilia. It is no exaggeration or hyperbole that all evils of the world are endorsed and committed by gnomes. A gnome feels no empathy, no remorse, no common humanity that separates us from simple beasts. The only "love" a gnome can feel, if you dare describe it so, is that for money. A gnome would sooner sell his own mother for a pouch of silvers than do a single good deed in his entire gaping hole of an existence."

A single gnome could tank a skinwalker and mog it in terms of sheer cruelty. Do you know 'why?' fay creatures compress themselves down to the stature and size of little people? It's to hide the sheer quantities of compressed mana and arcane providence they actually have. Which is a LOT. They are the predecessors of dwarves, and being their ancestors rely mostly on huge magic reserves instead of strength and machinery despite their natural god damn talent for tunneling and digging.

https://youtu.be/ilWoEwmmL40

Offend them and you're probably gonna end up falling in a void chasm for a million years. If they're feeling generous they might make you immortal so you live on, only to fall back into the same spot you've been falling as if nothing happened with all your memories shattered by the thousands of years fall.

https://youtu.be/NbJTlpKPrf0

Maybe they'll have a "tea party" with you and when you turn around it'll be 5 million years into the future on an earth that (HOPEFULLY) is still yours. Gnomes. Gnomes Anon. ARE EVIL!

https://youtu.be/s9XiiImj9RM

>>40590661
Do you have any recs for books about middle eastern cryptids?

>>40579980 (OP)
im jealous of american land, they have resources, lots of space, wilderness, cryptids and aliens, there is still some mystery there. here in germany we live like in a sardine can, there is no fucking space and no resources. all wilderness has been destroyed and what forests are here is relatively new planted by humans, they're even cutting down the ones that are near me, probably to make room for immigrant housing. americans can just go outside and look for bigfoot, skinwalkers and other dimensional beings

>>40595262
not anymore
no more bigfoot sightings
only creepy place still is skinwalker ranch and its numerous anomalies

>>40595262
A lot of our public land is gonna go up for sale if the bill isn't stopped, so a lot of us are about to potentially lose local innawoods access.

>>40595303
most of that land is in the west and is inhospitable desert tundra or plains
maybe only things near the rockies are actually forest

>>40579980 (OP)
you killed all the natives. evil sourounding american folklore is the reflect of your guiltiness.

>>40595357
>inhospitable desert tundra or plains
Both are still fun to fuck around in when you want to hang around outside.

>>40595370
Natives are the ones who told us skinwalkers are bad though and talk about them more than we do.
It isn't western viewpoint on them condemning them.
They say they were shamans who had powers to do good and that the transformation into animals was supposed to be as messengers for the spirits.
But over time these powers came to be used for the the shamans and priests own benefits corrupting them into the dangerous things they are today.
Skinwalkers are created through an initiation through rites by cults of these shamans that still exist.
That is what I directly from a Navajo

lmao more whimsical? Stop watching Disney, cuck. European folklore is full of blood drinkers and bloated corpses and shit that eats babies in their cribs at night. Look at the lore, not the cartoons. Tell me Black Anis, Church Grims, Lamia, Vourdulak, Draugrs and the like are "whimsical".

Actually, kys.

Look into the lore before coming to this Asian AI memeboard

>>40579980 (OP)
America is still largely unexplored and undeveloped mostly. Europe has little forests since they cut them down. You don't see cryptid reports about dogmen or Bigfoot in India for a reason.

>>40579980 (OP)
Europeans took down their forests long ago what remains even from the middle ages are highly sanitized forested backyards, it took out all the myth.
Not so for america.

>>40579980 (OP)
No one in this thread has given the correct answer, so here you go:

Gods are tied to both geography and ethnicity. The Gods of the Chinese reside in China, the Gods of the various European races reside in Europe, and the Gods of the American natives reside in America.

The evil/aggressive/hostile vibes of American folklore/cryptids is due entirely to the fact that these are indigenous spirits that have a hostile reaction because European-descended people are unwelcome strangers in this land. A replacement can take place, over centuries, but only if the invading people bring belief in their Gods with them and the colonization of America took place largely in a post-folklore setting where people may have had a toothless faith in the Christian God but past that, brought nothing with them that might have replaced the indigenous spirits.

As such, these spirits were only displaced, shoved out of population centers and into uninhabited wilderness areas where they are understandably unhappy with the descendants of the people who displaced them. Even if, as many have said, European folklore is often very dark, there is at least something of an understanding between the various European peoples and their native spirits, developed over millennia of cohabitation. There is no such understanding for European-descended Americans and native American spirits, only open hatred and hostility.

>>40596191
lamo
deez niggas couldnt handle blackpowder and the spirit of the white skinned conqueror
stay mad spirits

Northern California and Oregon and Washington have some creepy forests vibes.
it hosts all kinds of folklores like bigfoot and UFOs and witches or spirits. even extending over into Idaho and Northern Nevada desert you have the skinwalker
it also hosts occults that know this for 150 years now. Bohemian Club and their campgrounds north of San Francisco in Monte Rio. Russian river is known for bizzarr happenings. lots of people drown in the strong undertows.

Simple: You're stupid.
>european forests
You think the g rated babyified versions of old folk tales and fairy tales are the real versions of old european folklore.
>american forests
You know only of the (probably youtube/twitter-sanitized versions of) old /k/ and /x/ stories from when the two boards were good that you read and don't know any other folklore.

https://courses.washington.edu/hsteu305/Benandanti%20transcripts.PDF

>>40580963
>Ireland
I went there last week. I can confirm there is an evil spirit there

Die Woodys.

>>40596950

I mean you look at American paranormal mythology its spookier than /x/ & /k/ pasta

> Mothman timeloop skipping men in black fuckery
> Bigfoot, could be an interdimensional who the fuck knows its wild as hell
> Anasazi civ disappearance
> Church of Latter Day Saints, whole thing is a mind fuck
> UFO cult/alien lore intermingled with alphabet conspiracies
> Bell Witch & other young America witch spooks
> Thunderbirds, skinwalkers, wendigos, and a multitude of Indian lake cryptids
> Missing 411 - more interdimensional timeline bullshit

Shits wild man

411

>>40599890
>interdimensional
Can you not add scp-tier autism to established folklore you fucking spaz?

https://www.academia.edu/11880412/Vilenica_and_Vilenjak_Bearers_of_an_Extinct_Fairy_Cult
https://books.google.com/books?id=VdgV4t-YZOgC&pg=PA64

https://www.academia.edu/11312449/PÓCS_É_Tündéres_and_the_Order_of_St_Ilona
https://boszorkanykorok.hu/src/docs/Toth_G_P_2005_IV_060.pdf

>>40589356
I loved this pic, used to have it on my desktop.

>>40595262
Come to America krautbro

>>40583476
This is what Stairway to Heaven is about

>>40603451

>>40603458

>>40603462

>>40580466
>but at least there's the other aspect of white altruism and not being completely irredeemable.
Like what? Burning cats alive? Shoving hot pokers down the throats of babies that might be fairies?

https://books.google.com/books?id=1jzDDwL0g28C&pg=PA200
https://archive.org/details/schweizerisches08unkngoog/page/n43

https://riviste.unimi.it/index.php/aristonothos/libraryFiles/downloadPublic/120#page=147
https://digital.ub.uni-leipzig.de/object/viewid/0000004632
198r

https://books.google.com/books?id=wN53DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT156

>>40589356
This is one of my all time favorite pieces of art.

>>40579980 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xibalba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Votan
Because it was here that Atlantis was - Xibalba (Dwaraka) where people were mocked

they may have caused some trouble in the past but desu i feel sorry for them

>>40579980 (OP)
Muttmerican memes and media worldwide,
Also its a proyection of the muttmerican psicology, gringos shot their family and kids at the slighly inconvenience they are fucked up in the head just like a guy who used to be raped

>>40579980 (OP)
Gonna get me some of that wendussy

There are plenty of nasty things in european folklore too
Nature isn't kind or evil, it just is

>>40579980 (OP)
Romanian forests are the same with American forests, they're fucked by UFOs, devils, ghosts, vampires, black ambulances that kidnaps children off the street, satanists etc...

>>40579980 (OP)
>he doesn't know that the thing on the right wouldn't stand a chance to the happy gnomes

Gnomes are based, i have a house gnome, it tells me stories about his people.

Last one is a meme.

>>40612410
there are gnome kings?!

>>40579980 (OP)
>>40580421

>>40579980 (OP)
Before/ after jewry folklore

>>40579980 (OP)
I'll tell you know the ones on the left are more dangerous.

>>40580007
yea OP is very uncultured to think euro fairytails aren't grim...

>>40579980 (OP)
clueless pigfuck american

european forests are drenched with the blood of the thirty year war, a war so brutal and violent it is beyond modern comprehension

imagine what that did to the local fae and folklore
we have plenty of mythological creatures that are murderous

>>40619244
>only europe has had long and bloody wars

>>40619575
yes, actually

the wars of lesser races do not matter and were not fought at the same scale or cruelty

>>40619705
I'm sure you'd think that if you've never made any effort to learn about anything outside of your little bubble. Europe was very good at having lots of soldiers die from disease but this single battle in Ancient China resulted in roughly twice as many combat deaths as the entirety of the Thirty Years' War.

>This battle is infamous for being one of the bloodiest battles in human history, also sometimes considered ''one of the bloodiest battles of antiquity'', because several hundred thousand soldiers were buried alive.

>>40614699
Yeah gnome king and starseed babies with fairies and how they can live a millenia.
Shit's pretty dope.

https://archive.org/details/remainesofgentil00aubruoft/page/153

https://books.google.com/books?id=36TyCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA198
https://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/7514/132

>>40621549
I can't read german.

>>40620910
lol 400k is nothing compared to the casualties of the thirty war

also
>trusting chink history
they were always exaggerating, same with pajeets

>>40621712
>400k is nothing compared to the casualties of the thirty war
Good thing I specified "combat deaths" then, isn't it? More people died as a whole during the Thirty Years' War because, spoiler alert, it lasted for fucking thirty years and the vast majority of those deaths were from either disease or mercenaries killing peasants.

>they were always exaggerating, same with pajeets
And yet you "people" are always crying about the population size and breeding rates of those two countries. So we have two options here, right? Either you're wrong about how many people live in India and China or you're wrong about how many people die in their wars because that's what happens when a massive country with a massive population enters a total war: massive amounts of people die.

China alone is slightly under 10 million square kilometers, while the entirety of Europe is slightly over 10 million square kilometers. They're pretty close to the same size which means that there's no reason why internal Chinese conflicts shouldn't have casualties on par with inter-European conflicts. And when you look at the historical data without incel cope, that's what you see.

That aside, I understand that you're very insecure but
>the nobility in my country killed a lot more innocent civilians than the nobility in other countries
is really not a good flex, you know?

>>40621780
It actually is, when it comes to discussing which country has seen more cruelty and evil and has therefore a matching dark folklore

Seethe harder. You are brown.

>>40621948
>Seethe harder. You are brown.
If you can't tell from my grammar alone that I'm not then I don't know what to tell you.

Europe is a sanitized, harmless playground compared to literally anywhere else in the world. The worst you can claim is some periods of civil unrest where mercenaries pillaged the countryside. You realize that this is the permanent state of affairs for large parts off the world, right? The long periods of peace Europe has had between conflicts are historically unknown is most of the rest of the world. Do we need to take a quick trip around the globe?

>North America:
Literal constant warfare that featured none of the concepts of chivalry or morality you might have found in Europe. If you survived a battle or a raid by another tribe, if you lived on the East coast you could look forward to being tortured to death over the course of many days, or if you lived on the West coast, you are a chattel slave until you are worked to death.

>South America:
Do I really need to elaborate? Death cults as religion, human sacrifices and cannibalism, and again of course constant warfare and slavery.

>Africa:
One of the places where the state of unrest found in the Thirty Years' War is how things have been since the dawn of time. There are currently around 40 internal wars in Africa, right now. There has never been a period in recorded history when there weren't multiple wars taking place within Africa. Rape, mutilation, torture, genocide - things that would be historical atrocities in Europe are daily occurrences here.

>Middle East
You could read the Bible alone for a quick guide to the amount of blood that's soaked this land.

>Asia
Cambodia alone shits all over anything Europe has to offer in regards to "cruelty and evil". China is infamous for, among other things, multi-year sieges where soldiers ate civilians to survive. The kind of shit the nobility of ancient China did to their own families alone is cruel beyond anything Europe could imagine.

I wish we could have focused more on how fucked up and aggresive North American entities are. Most European ones tend to, leave people alone.

North Americans actually just want to tweak and chimp out on peopke.

I want to explore why and get to the bottom of why they are hyper aggresive. Agression like this isn't even common in the animal kingdom.

>>40626498
see
>>40596191
>The evil/aggressive/hostile vibes of American folklore/cryptids is due entirely to the fact that these are indigenous spirits that have a hostile reaction because European-descended people are unwelcome strangers in this land.

>>40622081
lol this is funny.
Before we wete about which race is most savage? Now we are boasting about which race is the most savage?
Lmao of the 4chan race wars are always directionless
Also lol europe? Tame?
Nothing say tame like blinding 15000 captives to teach theme a lesson
Or killing entire populations for shits and giggles
Truth be told, everyone a savage
Oh and your tidbit about North America
I know, and you know, that you just wanted to “flex” and you just put it in with info literally out of your ass, and zero evidence
Explain to me how folks who had no way to March long distances (no horses) could inflict more death than people who COULD
I agree with your stuff about meso American history, but only mesoamerica. South America was pretty chill
And again, I don’t think people without access to metal can do much harm

>>40626650
Natives get snatched up by spooks all the time (see the Highway of Tears). Spend enough time on a reservation and you WILL see some weird shit, and the natives openly talk about a lot of spooky shit.

The spooks in the Americas are still around because the belief and faith in continued up until European contact (and still persists to this day). It's still pretty active in many parts of the country, like reservations, National Parks, forests with rumors or disappearances, urban legends, etc.

>>40626713
>I know, and you know, that you just wanted to “flex” and you just put it in with info literally out of your ass, and zero evidence
I'm not American. Europe has by far the tamest history of any major geographic region. That doesn't mean that Europe has ever lacked for savagery, but that there is nothing that was done in Europe that wasn't done elsewhere.

I don't mean this in the typical sense but this is what you'd call "Eurocentrism". You've never seriously studied foreign history but you've gone into great depth studying the various horrors of European history, such that you imagine they're unique to that region. They're not and, as I said earlier, the various "savageries" of Europe stand out because they're set against a backdrop of long periods of peace and prosperity that have been unknown for much of the rest of the world.

>Male and female captives as well as teenage boys would usually face death by ritual torture at the hands of the Native Americans. The torture had strong sacrificial overtones, usually to the sun. Captives, especially warriors, were expected to show extreme self-control and composure during torture, singing "death songs", bragging of one's courage or deeds in battle, and otherwise showing defiance.
>The torture was conducted publicly in the captors' village, and the entire population (including children) watched and participated.
>To make the torture last longer, the Native Americans and the First Nations would revive captives with rest periods during which time they were given food and water. Tortures typically began on the lower limbs, then gradually spread to the arms, then the torso. The Native Americans and the First Nations spoke of "caressing" the captives gently at first, which meant that the initial tortures were designed to cause pain, but only minimal bodily harm. By these means, the execution of a captive, especially an adult male, could take several days and nights.

>>40626775
>Natives get snatched up by spooks all the time
The vast majority of them aren't really natives anymore; they're almost all mixed to some degree with European DNA.

>>40626775
>The spooks in the Americas are still around because the belief and faith
Jinn exist with and without your belief,the reason why jinn in North America act in this way is due HUGE amount of empty lands and most of you being sinners adultery,sodomy,alcohol etch all of these stuff make jinn more confident

>>40579980 (OP)
Americans don't have forests
They have mcdonalds and shopping malls

>>40587211
I'm going to fuck a wendigo.

>>40624454
why are they fucking? the beast of Gevaudan killed random people, not couples like the Zodiac...

America is the oldest continent
Primal spirits and entities still reside there

>>40627670
>America is the oldest continent

>Australia is generally considered the oldest continent, with evidence suggesting its continental crust is the oldest on Earth, dating back 4.4 billion years. While other continents have ancient components, Australia's Western Shield area has the oldest exposed rocks, and its landmass has remained relatively stable, allowing for the preservation of ancient geological features.

>>40626927
Most clueless European in this thread. One of the only good things about America is that it has huge tracts of empty wilderness. I live within a 30 minute drive of three different national forests, which altogether cover a little under 3 million acres.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forests_of_the_United_States
>As of 2016, roughly 36.21% (about one-third of the U.S.) is forested. Excluding the U.S. territories, forested land in the U.S. covers roughly 818,814,000 acres (3,313,622 square kilometers).

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-ordinance-of-the-lord_1643/page/n297

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-art-of-chirurgery-_sennert-daniel_1663/page/2726
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10367320?page=554

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1475-1640_the-swedish-intelligence_swedish-intelligencer_1632_0/page/127

https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10000891?page=368
https://dfg-viewer.de/show/?set[mets]=https://content.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/zefys/SNP28215886-16260427-0-0-0-0.xml&tx_dlf[page]=4

https://leopard.tu-braunschweig.de/rsc/viewer/dbbs_derivate_00011764/max/00000297.jpg
https://brema.suub.uni-bremen.de/zeitungen17/periodical/pageview/1431867

>>40579980 (OP)
americans are judaized to the core.

>>40627699
Outdated.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/science/oldest-earth-rock-discovery-canada-debate

It is morally correct to rape, torture and kill any "super" natural fucker you catch on the forest. It doesn't matter if they holy, unholy or neutral, you must remind the faggots, this is a human universe. The entirety of existence is our birthright.

>>40580109
I'm an American and I agree. There's something evil about this place.

>>40579980 (OP)
European Folklore is whimsical? Ha!
No, go read some real European Folklore, not the sanitised Disney version

>>40579980 (OP)
Indians and bush people but unironically.
Folklore is stories around the campfire and useful lessons from the past. Well if you had indians hunting for scalps those stories permiate through the ages. Feathers and furs become claws and skinwalkers. America was a land you could get lost in before the surveillance state took over.

>>40581135
>you see how they moral shifts
>they moral

>>40581185
There's a lot of unbelievably fucked up shit taking place in America right now and has been for decades and decades.

>>40626713
>I don’t think people without access to metal can do much harm
Then you're just really uneducated, unimaginative, and stupid. You don't need "metal" to inflict a massive amount of suffering. You have a very small mind.

>>40637575
lol you got me lmao at that gif
>>40637583
They might be. But they are unrelated to human cruelty

>>40637634
lol ok a ChatGPT esque answer.
Again, people without METAL can’t do more harm than people with METAL
That’s a fact

>>40637126
You're not raping or killing anything, big guy.

>>40637640
>Muh metal
Again, you're really ignorant and lack an imagination.

>>40637636
>But they are unrelated to human cruelty
No, it's pretty much all humans inflicting meaningless suffering on other humans and animals.

>>40637583
>>40637636
jewish cruelty is explicitly anti-human, and the US is their sacrificial temple

>>40637648
On your knees inhuman abomination before I torture you harder than the mexican cartel ever could.

>>40627640
Don't you see his hard-on? He's there to make it a threesome.

>>40638221
Damn I didn't see it... maybe I was too distracted by the hot shepherdess to focus on the beastly penis. Thank God there's some gay noticer to help.
>threesome
Well, they're french, I'm right? Lol

>>40580544
lol. lmao. we are infested with fae, corn demons they fed with tens of millions of souls, and they who walk in the dark.

>>40580652
>t. skinwalker

>>40637697
No.

>>40637697
That's too bad that you think about torturing me. I'd absolutely fuck you up in a real life scenario.

https://archive.org/details/fragmentsforhist0000unse_r7a5/page/351

https://archive.org/details/witchesdevilsdoc0000weye/page/512
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10888966?page=372

https://books.google.com/books?id=mDX2_0Qb03EC&pg=PA251
https://arca.irht.cnrs.fr/ark:/63955/md98mc87q06t#Galerie
16r

https://books.google.com/books?id=1jzDDwL0g28C&pg=PA186
https://doc.rero.ch/record/22050/files/I-N-268_2005_10_00.pdf#page=8

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k56198468/f109.double
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b100368283/f55.item

>>40639615
Tell me more

>>40580007
And cannibalism, do not forget the eating of human beings for sport.

>>40580963
>Also Europe cut down all their forests at one point or other.
That's what you would expect if they were filled with evil entities

>>40644699

>>40645005

>From the early Middle Ages to the beginning of the modern era, the Wild Man was an anthropomorphic creature in the folklore of the Germanic and Slavic-speaking regions. He was described or depicted as a solitary, extremely hairy, naked primitive man, or one clothed only in moss or foliage. His way of life was considered semi-animalistic and primitive on the one hand, but also paradisiacal and close to nature on the other. Uninhabited or uninhabitable forest and mountain areas were thought to be his preferred habitat.

>>40645799
>Wild men are human and not transcendent beings, i.e. they are not beings from another world, for example the divine world, who can materialize at will in this world and appear and disappear again in different forms. Since Wild Men are unable to do this, they can also be captured by humans. Although Wild Men have superhuman abilities, sometimes even something like magical powers or psychic abilities, they are themselves biological beings who are vulnerable and can be shot at and injured. They can have a sexual and family life. Only in the archaic legends of the Alpine region (mainly Tyrol) do wild men have certain characteristics of spirit beings and nature demons.

>>40645813
>Wild men are usually inferior to humans if their great physical strength is rendered harmless. This can be done by sexual seduction, but also by female virtue, by alcohol, by magic, by fighting them with professional military training and weaponry, by remote weapons or by other particularly intelligent measures. Then they can be locked up and kept in cages like animals, prisoners or lunatics. However, the expectations of unraveling the mystery of their savagery are fundamentally disappointed.

It was only at the beginning of the modern era that the wild men became guardians of mostly metal treasures (a role that had previously been ascribed to the magically powerful and technologically superior dwarves). This was the time when people had to systematically develop the last areas that were still uninhabited in the Middle Ages in order to access the mineral resources that were waiting to be discovered in the mountains, which had previously been shunned as inhospitable and wild. Here they encountered the wildness of nature, from which they were able to wrest their treasures using previously unknown measures. Typically, it is also miners who encounter the Wild Man here for the first time, not hunters as is usually the case.

>>40580750
>bears, mountain lions, snakes spiders, wild pigs

America is not special, we have these beasts around here too.

>>40580937

>>40588241
no, theyre vengeful because the white man cut off their supply of human sacrifices that they grew fat from.
>>40619244
lol. lmao. we genocided the indians, who had genocided countless other entire races here.
>>40621712
the thirty years war was jews overtly paying white royalty to kill off whites for the jewish abranel and mendes clan amusement.
>>40626650
they hate the Indians too. always have, unless they were the death priests who sacrificed humans to them. thhe ancestors hated them bancj, but the indians wentt degenerate a looooong time ago and started the death worship up for war.
>>40626713
>South America was pretty chill
OHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHO!
>>40626899
the fae are and have ALWAYS been man eaters. djinn are just fae by another name.
>>40644676
the walkers are scary boogeyman thing s that prey on other boogeyman things. a skinwalker to the skinwalkers. humans arent even their 9th choice of food. they will fuck us apart into meat if given a chance though.
>>40645005
the werewolves of the 30 years war like that woodcut were people with rabies and cannibals with the brain rot.

wait till the euros find out the shit they had there was found living here when the Europeans first showed up.

like tommy rawhead and bloody bones.

https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Der_Werwolf_in_Thummlingen#cite_note-2
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb11255980?page=72,73
https://brema.suub.uni-bremen.de/zeitungen17/periodical/pageview/1311825

https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10927305?page=160

https://arcinsys.hessen.de/arcinsys/digitalMediaViewer.action?archivalDescriptionId=235522&selectId=11125733
https://books.google.com/books?id=tWQOAAAAYAAJ
>fest und unsichtbar

>>40646460
Danke, Menschenskind!

>>40580109
I'm 2nd gen american from European family with a brit bong wife. I don't think i would call American land cursed but this is definitely a topic my wife and I have discussed before in the difference between between Europe and America.

I wouldn't have it any other way. America feels more vast, powerful and maybe primal in comparison. American history and founding mythos feels more violent but also more majestic and powerful. Like it's destined for either great things or terrible things depending on who is currently steering

>>40599890
I think you are touching on part of what mashed American folklore unique is that it's alot more modern tales, it doesn't have a "muh 2000 year old traditions". What European traditions that did get brought over were chopped up, mixed up and then forgotten only to be replaced by new monsters and mysterious from the atomic age

Consider why we have forest folklore in the first place, why do pagan cultural practice persist in every culture. Cultural practices and folklore exist as a means of warning and protecting children from the danger of the woods. Monsters that live in the shallows of lakes and ponds are warnings to keep toddlers from drowning themselves, "stay back from the edge". Other things are to prevent you from being kidnapped, eaten, or lost. Light and noise to scare off "evil spirits" especially during large festivals and harvest feasts is a practical means of scaring off bears and wolves so that your unsupervised children don't get eaten while you're drunkenly fucking in the back 40. European folklore used to be PLENTY scary and dark, especially German folklore, in a region that was HEAVILY forested and rife with crime during the medieval period. European folklore persists in it's charming state because their forests are now small, harmless and de-wilded. North American forests are still scary as fuck, and the mythos surrounding them is a subconscious interpretation of their lethality. As a field biologist, and avid back packer, the woods are still terrifying sometimes. The forests of Canada can be lethally cold, hundreds of miles wide, and full of several animals that will fuck you up just for encountering them. Culturally we have boy scouts and camping trips to instill a respect for the rules of being in the woods, but all of this still ingrains an understanding that carelessness in the deep woods will get you killed. Our folklore of the woods is based on a deep seated fear of nonspecific mega fauna, getting lost, and dying of exposure.

>>40637640
metal weapons= metal armor. You can easily kill some unarmored retard with a bat or a primitive spear

>>40646460
BASED. I have wanted to have a custom van with those woodcuts or something by Albrecht Dürer on the side.

there was a series of books by thom aylesworth called "meet the.." with one for werewolves, another for vampires etc that was filled with them.
>>40647419
well, sometimes its mindbreaking things straight from hell eating a deer like a burrito in your backyard at 3 am.

>>40587155
This is on libgen too, thanks for the rec.

>>40579980 (OP)
I dunno, but does anyone know where to start so far as learning to fight back or at least stave off the paranormal?
I've had small run-ins in the past and am worried I'll run into scarier things, since my circumstances are unfortunately placing me back where I can run into them.

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1475-1640_admirable-and-memorable-_goulart-simon_1607/page/389
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb11264300?page=280,281
https://books.google.com/books?id=BOHSDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA201
https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb11264300?page=288

https://books.google.com/books?id=CvhKDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT185
https://runeberg.org/olmagnus/0728.html

>>40584428
That's why I can't get into map games. If I cant let my soldiers raze a city to the ground, rape all the women and burn everyone else alive. Am I really in a military simulator?
Yes, all the women, even the old and ugly.

is anyone familiar with a cat-like forest spirit named "Sameel"?

>>40649493
I wouldn’t worry about it.

>>40651934
I think I should, since I'm going back to graveyard shift in a haunted af place with shit from ghosts to at least a skinwalker and likely more. I saw as much shit in 1 year as the guys who've been here for 20, and shit was getting more aggressive over time.

>>40639615

>>40652771
follow the old ways. salt, sage, fire, iron.

you are pointing at the exact reason when exposing that we have no scary entities here.

You see, entities are somehow manifestations or forms that take shape following our own imagination. After decades of infantilization of these european entities they have actually devolved or disolved since they have no longer the power of fear and they form was weakeaned by all the disney and infantile books.

Those were done on purpose to erradicate them btw.

https://archive.org/details/Zbornika-Radova-Vizantoloskog-Instituta/ZRVI%2050-2%20%282013%29/page/1077
https://www.scribd.com/document/587690096/Zakonopravilo-fototipsko-izdanje-Ilovac-kog-prepisa
312 / 862

>>40580466
>Give them alcohol or food and they won't lure you to drown in a swamp
Hey, I live in north america and have a local legend about this, it's about fairies and a ghost.
So theres a swamp thats known to be infested with fairies and to cross it you need to bring the traditional "please don't kill me" bribe of breadcrumbs or else the fairies will kill you. One day a little girl tried to cross the swamp without the bribe and the fairies went about killing her. She screamed out a lot and lots of people heard but they thought it was a fairy trick (yeah the fairies can mimic people to lure them into the swamp) and left her to die. Now the swamp is also haunted by a vengeful hag ghost that also kills you. Even worse, she doesn't take bribes.

>>40652771
>shit from ghosts to at least a skinwalker
Can you elaborate on that?

>>40587859
based

>>40655003
Thank you for sharing.

>>40656947
I don't really care to, 90% is insanely mundane and don't even constitute a story. I repost the stories like once a year in October greentext threads, make updates if I get new info from coworkers. I guess if you have specific questions I'd answer, but I'm not dumping everything here. Maybe I'll have some new additions to make this year.

Skinwalker:
>crew of men, been here for years, many have experienced the same things
>some nights are quiet and more oppressive than others
>animals all hide, everything, rats, frogs, geese, deer, skunks, coyotes, everything disappears early evening
>get that "I'm being watched/hunted/I'm not alone" feeling outdoors so we don't typically linger
>one guy reports hearing his name whispered from the trees after someone calls to him
>a couple of guys have found animals acting odd/uncanny, even frightening off the rest of their packs, but for me the animals are always absent
>some guys refuse to swap stories, maybe they just don't want to anger the things
>one night something starts whistling at me, sounds like it's right next to me and circling but there's nothing visible
>k might be a wendigo but it's summer
>biggest panic feeling ever, stupidly keep walking instead of running for cover
>make it to car, still circling me which is even scarier somehow, feel trapped
>drive over and sprint into building, can still hear it
>it's gone 20 minutes later
>realize afterwards there was a smell in the air of rot

https://archive.org/details/talesofeldersofi00roeh/page/212
https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/cb909a51-5acd-4fee-95ec-51ff09b87676/surfaces/74e990ae-a37f-402a-8735-db1c547af18a/

>>40659547
Assuming you're in the States, see if you can find a local Native American medicine man to help you. I've heard they can at least deal with skinwalkers.

>>40580627
>the lands original people

>>40587859
not surprised at all

>>40587859
not surprised

>>40662264
Were the stories partly about Sami/Laps?

>>40582553
https://youtu.be/ABGD7azyJWA

>>40651560
Can I get a quick rundown on this spirit?

>>40579980 (OP)
Lovecraft wrote about this in several essays, America was founded by calvinist schizos whose entire worldview was based on existential dread and saw evil everywhere

>middle of Night, Spain
>Wake up
>Look at my left
>There's a Wendigo glaring
>Turn arround and sleep
>Wake up
>My skinkwalkered neighbour is wearing a wedding suit to his working with plaster and other construction materials.
>Yawn
>Grab my kitchen knife, stab a few spirits, japanesque style
>Go online
>4chan thinks spirits are born in same place forever
Yare yare daze

>>40664847
On a more serious note, and having introduced the odea of spirits and beings having mobility even interdimensional...
A few nights ago, I saw a being in an alley intersection, had a bluish tincture skintone, and a surprised expression, such as my startle upon seeing him at a distance.
I tried spiritual stabbing, but he had a shield of some kind, he stayed put, I circumabulated the alleys to catch him from another angle, but no trace was left.

Thoughts? It was like a shielded blue zombie in appearance, intelligent, slow mover hard hitter, scan says. Likely from another dimension.

>>40664875
I'm a Hunter, a Nightmare who hunts, incase you wonder.

>>40664887
If I manage to make a pic some day (Photograph) or otherwise decent drawing, I'll make sure to upload, I'm considering a black flashlight to look for traces, do please suggest hunting devices, apart from bioenergetics scanning devices. Still havent seen other witness.

>>40664899
Please take these messages seriously, the being was observed in a civilian farming area, so it's probably people who are very easy to scare. My data suggests a frontal physical assault is most preferred, either a katana of top notch quality (magically and poison infused) or maybe a riot shield and machete.
>Nigga, ure insane
Please, do call the cops on a mystical zombie

>>40664875
This is a guy with a female demonic soul, she can (and thus he) stab you right in the soul, I'm at her place, gave me a few examples, if you guys can, figure what this being is, she'll hunt it, she can dish out the damage.

>>40579980 (OP)
333.......my "favorite" number

>>40579980 (OP)
>What explains the evil surrounding American folklore?
the trail of tears transformed how the forests behave

https://archive.org/details/bloomsbury-2024-classical-antiquity-medieval-ireland/page/337
https://www.isos.dias.ie/RIA/RIA_MS_23_P_2.html#555

>>40665438
Choronzon innit?

>>40580007
hehe...kid...you thought european folklore was quaint and whimsical? Think again, heh. We've got rapes, murders, incest. This is a dark world you Americans are living in. Think you can handle it, kid? Nothing personal.

Who needs Heaven when Álfheimr has more freedom

>>40589356
what a nice quinceañera picture

>>40580996
speaking fucking japanese

>>40580007
>Constant rape, incest,
H-hot

>>40651934
skinwalker hands typed this post

is it a good idea to try to bind a fairy and use it as a sex slave?

>>40672095
it is one of the worst ideas possible in the history of ever

just go get some wendussy or skinwalker pussy like the rest of us

>>40638268
she's a white woman, if anything she's the one who invited mr red rocket.

>>40649493
for the most part, just keep your head down and you won't have to.
If they don't know you're there, they can't mess with you.

If they do know you're there, as the old stories go, they can generally be appeased.

>>40647419
Interesting post

>>40647419
Came here to say this.
/pol/ drew correlations between vampires and "juice" pretty early on, and looking at history, it'd appear to be true.
Myths needed to be light enough to keep childrens interest, yet scary enough to make them respect the rules.
>Fairy tales are actually super dark bro, just read Grimms
I honestly don't believe that parents would go around sharing the gory details. The stories exist today for the reason stated above.

>>40579980 (OP)
you did not get your information from me
Disney studios maybe
but not me

as I've read
a story or two
Disney ripped off from other cultures

and spoon feed that
to american kids
for lot's of money

americans
were willing
to spend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q1ZAcnF97M

>>40579980 (OP)
Europe has been settled by large scale urban societies for thousands of years, the true forests have long since been cut down or tamed, so the entities within have been dead or weakened enough that people dont take them seriously. The United States has only been settled by urban Europeans for about 300 years, any 1600s settlement is too small to really make an impact. There is still true wilderness in the US, places where the old ones still thrive

>>40579980 (OP)
Early Americans felt guilt from stealing the land?

>>40672095
>t. Edric Wild

>>40627670
[Citation needed]

>>40579980 (OP)
Christian guilt vs Classical Honor culture.

>>40678210
great pic

>>40646460
https://youtu.be/-q7JU3r4TEI

>>40580292
America is the greatest nation on Earth because we accept the fact that man, at his core, is greedy, selfish, and covetous. We tell our people that they're on their own and to just grab all they can grab.

https://obvil.sorbonne-universite.fr/corpus/mercure-galant/MG-1693-05#MG-1693-05_062

https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Die_Ehre_des_Hertzogthums_Crain_-_Band_VI_-_Von_der_Istrianer_Sprache_/_Sitten_und_Gewohnheiten
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Die_Ehre_des_Hertzogthums_Crain_-_Band_XI_-_Krinck
456

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-present-state-of-the_rycaut-paul-sir_1679/page/n326

https://www.academia.edu/6260743/Evliya_Çelebi_in_the_Circassian_Lands_Vampires_Tree_Worshippers_and_Pseudo_Muslims
81
https://archive.org/details/EvliyelebiSeyahatnmesiVII/page/n470
https://archive.org/details/evliyaelebisey07evliuoft/page/n183
>اوبور

https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-travels-of-monsieur-_thevenot-jean-de_1687/page/n136
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k8726927g/f210.item

https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10503395?page=23

https://www.academia.edu/49078183/La_Chiesa_e_le_campagne_dellIstria_negli_scritti_di_G_F_Tomasini_1595_1655_vescovo_di_Cittanova_e_corografo_in_Quaderni_giuliani_di_storia_Trieste_I_1_1980_pp_9_49
43 & 45

http://periodica.fzf.ukim.edu.mk/godzb/GZ13(1962)/GZ13.07.%20Antoljak,%20S.%20-%20Sultan%20Jahja%20u%20Makedoniji.pdf#page=44

https://www.scribd.com/doc/204028610/Albania-Nel-XVII-Secolo
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https://web.archive.org/web/20111106094136/http://forumikatolik.net/showthread.php?t=10480

https://www.cesnur.org/2009/balkan_vampires.htm

https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb11055600?page=411

https://archive.org/details/u_20210420_20210420/Λεονταρίτου%26Μπουρδάρα%26Παπαγιάννη%20-%20Αντικήνσωρ/page/1392
https://www.loc.gov/resource/amedmonastery.00279393004-jo/?sp=171

https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/view/bsb10190022?page=67

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342277730_Death_in_Late_Byzantine_Canon_Law
243
ht tp s: // ww w. bl .u k/ ma nu sc ri pt s/ Vi ew er .a sp x? re f= ad d_ ms _3 40 60 _f 46 7v
https://archive.org/details/stvtq_202008/Vol.%2044%20Issue%202%20-%202000/page/174
ht tp s: // ww w. bl .u k/ ma nu sc ri pt s/ Vi ew er .a sp x? re f= ad d_ ms _3 40 60 _f 46 9r

https://www.sbcividalese.it/Archivi/BSCI/Files/Luca%20Olivo%20-%20Fondo%20DOrlandi%20tomo%201.pdf#page=176
https://fauna31.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/distretto-di-tolmino-03.pdf#page=2
https://www.techeudine.it/visualizzatore?folder=fondo_joppi%2Fj_mss_0322
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https://books.google.com/books?id=HHBvf3zZSCgC&pg=PA37
https://archive.org/details/zgodovinatolmin00rutagoog/page/n71

https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/186947
85

https://archive.org/details/matijevlastaras00novagoog/page/n71
https://archive.org/details/zakonikstefanadu00novauoft/page/158

https://books.google.com/books?id=Fy4DEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA216

https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_Chasidim.464
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10548452h/f257.double
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b105494109/f236.item
>שטר״ייש

https://vampiria.forumcommunity.net/?t=22212422#entry409630424
https://collections.library.yale.edu/catalog/9998954
33v
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9739088g/f220.item
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_1IWEI8JQoTAC/page/n166
https://olympias.lib.uoi.gr/jspui/bitstream/123456789/3618/1/doc.pdf#page=43
ht tp s: // ww w. bl .u k/ ma nu sc ri pt s/ Vi ew er .a sp x? re f= st ow e_ ms _6 2_ f1 51 v

https://ruthjsalter.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/geoffrey-of-burton-vita-s-moduenne-uirginis-47.pdf

>>40579980 (OP)
There’s some bad energy in the Appalachians

>>40580652
t.

>>40580963
I live in Ireland an I am evil

>>40669310
Lol, soon she will be an abuela too

man

>>40664124
I remember hearing it on beyond creepy but I can't find the video it's from
it's from an encounter that two boys had while camping in the woods at night
while they were sitting near the campfire, all of a sudden; a human-sized, cat-like entity walked on two legs to join them around the campfire and politely introduced itself as "Sameel" and had a conversation with the two boys
that's about all I can remember

>>40687949
https://youtu.be/SOSegE_lUZ0

>>40580466
> be me
backwoods Kentucky
rifle, NV goggles, flask full of Monster Energy
hear screeching from treeline
"prob'ly just a skinwalker again lol"

> bring out thermal scope
see 8 ft tall deer-man doing a Fortnite emote
heart rate spikes
not from fear, from rage

> "NOT IN MY FOREST YOU DON'T"
magdump into the trees yelling “FREEDOM AIN’T FREE”
cryptid T-poses and catches the bullets

> hear it whisper inside my skull
“your soul tastes like vape juice and regret”
black out

> wake up with MREs arranged in pentagram
trail cam footage shows me doing Fortnite emotes for 3 hours
local sheriff just nods and says
“that’s just the Wendigo sayin’ howdy”

> reload
go back into the woods
round two, baby

>>40687988
thanks

>>40580466
Oh shit what an idiot take.

>>40690778
jeez this guy is weird

>>40580109
America is ancient
Like the actual American Empire existed for well over 1000 years before the great catastrophes which reshaped our enormous old world giant castles into what now resembles mountains and mesas
so the mountains and running trails we hike have a ton of fucking energy about them

>>40602468
W O U L D
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>>40664909
>>40664875

So you found a creature and immediately went for the kill just because you could and now you want to hunt it? That doesn't sound nice, why would anyone help you?

>>40579980 (OP)
Those fae on the left are going rape, kill, and eat you unless you catch pregnant. And then get your family.

>>40672475
To be fair I've mostly seen Asian girls involved in it.

>>40694201
stfu dickhead

>>40580511
>>40588171
>>40595162
This. Don't fool around people, you don't want to get GNOMED
>captcha: rapez
Jesus wept

>>40673708
>I honestly don't believe that parents would go around sharing the gory details
Ah, but the gory details are never as bad as what kids would imagine happened to them.
It's like when the movie finally shows the monster, and it's never as bad as you thought.
Fear of the unseen.

>>40679418
imagine believing this boomer slop, i hate hylics

>>40579980 (OP)
What Yuropen forests are like:
(it says watch out, mines!)

>>40579980 (OP)
Are trolls real?

>>40662298
>>40662264
what stories?

https://www.avesta.org/ka/yt13sbe.htm#section22