Reading the secret teachings of all ages, i read a super interesting chapter on serpent symbolism where the author says the serpent has been a major esoteric entity in nearly every ancient culture from Amer indians, greeks, chaldeans, and, hindus It’s often seen as a symbol of wisdom, healing, rebirth, and even salvation as well as the snake removing its skin made it be seen as anatural symbol of immortality and transformation
he even claims christianity later seeing the serpent as an evil symbol was because they "misunderstood" the story of Eden with the serpent and he claims Christians got it wrong since in the bible moses uses a serpent on a pole to heal people as well as Jesus's prophecies and how he himself said to “be wise as serpents"

>>40634679 (OP)
Just like in real life, I won't trust snakes because of their dangerous venom, their cold blood, and their ability to conceal themselves on the ground and trees... yeah, I'm not buying into this, no thanks.

>>40634966
Most of their species are not venomous though.

>>40634980
But when they are?
It can and has proven fatal to people.
There's a reason why most humans have an in-built cannibalistic fear of snakes and spiders.
It's what helped kept us alive.
I'm personally not going to over think it, I won't be looking for serpents for spiritual and esoteric guidance, because just like their real life counterpart, it's too risky.

>>40635011
>cannibalistic
sorry, I meant animalistic. Just a little bit of a Freudian slip on my part, haha.

>>40634679 (OP)
Serpent/Dragon = Chaos
Chaos alchemically is like... breaking everything down into the soup. It allows transformations, both good and evil.

>>40635018

>>40635072
Dragons on the other hand are pretty cool. They are a fearsome, intelligent, and proud beast that can fly and travel like how a bird can.

They are often a great and dangerous obstacle to overcome for a hero, but once the dragon is defeated, the strength and legendary status goes from the dragon to the hero instead. Now the hero has proven their worth, ability, and courage after defeating the formidable dragon.

Dragons are very cool, but they also have the capacity to commit wanton-destruction around their environment. Let's be as strong as dragons, while still retaining our precious humanity.

>>40635128
Cute snek

>>40635136
Just learn to ride it.

>>40635011
valid
>>40635072
>>40635136
awesome
>>40635128
need

>>40635151
>How To Tame Your Dragon
What's up Hiccup

I could ride the dragon. But if the dragon is evil and unwilling to be subjugated, there's only one appropriate course of action unfortunately, and that is to defeat the dragon through the force of arms.

>>40635172
You problem is believing the dragon to be evil. It was born from the dust, just like you, but contains all "colors of the rainbow" that is God's refracted Light.
It's a fun little narrative fantasy you've got there though.

>>40635172
And it's not that it's unwilling to be subjugated as much as it doesn't really think about you at all.

Tame your kundalini!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=s_9FUEJ2Ac8

>>40635191
My problem is not that I believe dragons are evil, my problem is that I believe in the possibility that dragons can become evil. That's an important distinction here, and that is why I said >if the dragon is evil

Just like what this anon said >>40635072
>it allows transformations, both good and evil.
>both good and evil

>>40635199
There is no need for a dragon to be subjugated if it is not a threat to begin with.

>>40635191
>>40635199
And btw, I'm not a dragon hater, like I said I think they're very cool. In a way, I wish to emulate the dragons themselves. Not all humans are good, and I'm sure that simple truth is no different for the dragons as well, but we can still respect and praise the good qualities of what humans and dragons are capable of regardless of their potential flaws.

>>40634679 (OP)
OP here, I am glad this thread did not trigger some angry Christians, so far it's comfy, thank you all.

>>40635233
If you don't consider chaos to be any threat at all then I would challenge you to go camp naked with no supplies for a week in the deep wilderness.

>>40635222
Oh ok that's a fair distinction I see where you are coming from.

>>40635222
Same anon :P
I was expanding on the good (aspects of God) and evil (born from dust) nature of the Dragon of Chaos.
Or attempting to. Sometimes it works, sometimes not!

>>40635409
I look at chaos and see potential for change, for better or for worse. My preference is to learn to thrive in the chaos, for the better, and not for the worse. And hopefully, I will become a stronger and more better person for it.

>>40635409
And also, to clarify my comment made about dragons not being a threat, I meant if they are not an active threat. For example, if they are not indiscriminately attacking other people who are simply minding their own business, I would not consider them an (active) threat.

I know a dragon has the capacity to be a powerful threat, but will they be a threat is the question I'm more concerned with.

>>40634679 (OP)
Here's a book if you enjoy serpent stuff.

https://archive.org/details/TheBookOfSitraAchra/page/n29/mode/2up

"The Book of Sitra Achra: A Grimoire of the Dragons of the other Side"
Full of fun Metaphysics and stuff.

figure this out

>>40635432
And that is a good way of looking at it. I'm just saying, to call it no threat at all will end poorly lol

>>40635445
>For example, if they are not indiscriminately attacking other people who are simply minding their own business, I would not consider them an (active) threat.
I see where we diverge. I imagine the dragon (chaos) as being... way too big in a way too small box. I don't think it breaks shit out of any sense of anything other than being a bull in a china shop.

>>40635467
WOW, i am going to have so much fun with this, much appreciated.

>>40635480
So you're saying dragons are like a force of nature? A dumb beast with no sense of control over themselves like a bull? I am of the opinion that dragons are extremely intelligent creatures with the capacity to comprehend their own actions and the actions of others, they just simply lack humanity because they are, well dragons.

>>40635315
It was comfy, because I have arrived and I will INDIAN OUT on you

>>40635445
>>40635520
>I know a dragon has the capacity to be a powerful threat, but will they be a threat is the question I'm more concerned with.
NTA, yes. It goes back to the old stories in which towns had a form of appeasement to keep the dragons from attacking. Everything has a catch.

https://blog.hmns.org/2019/04/that-time-beer-saved-the-world/

>>40635507
https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-iii-the-book-of-the-52-stations-of-the-crosses-of-nod/page/192/mode/2up

This is also good; step by step book from the same source. Loads of education on all the stuff going on spiritually nowadays.

>>40635480
>>40635557
And to add on to my post here >>40635520

You see time and time again in ancient lore from a variety of cultures, that dragons are very intelligent and sentient creatures, but with a clear lack of humanity, for the simple fact that they are dragons, not humans. They may be a force of nature, the embodiment of chaos itself, but they can still comprehend cause and effect, their actions, and the actions of others, and they can still choose to do good, or to do bad, they just simply lack the inherent humanity that belongs to humans when they make their decisions.

That's what makes dragons so interesting, and so cool. And that is why I am of the opinion that humans should be like dragons, while still being able to retain their own humanity.

>>40635573

>>40635573
I hope i don't forget that one, but i will bookmark it as a second recommendation to that book on serpents, thanks a second time

>>40635471
This is real N'wah hours here
Drink skooma and get slaves (legally)

>>40635582
I GOT READ IT, i love serpents

>>40635467
>>40635573
>>40635582
cool, thanks for posting these material
very educational

>>40635601
>>40635582
It's a step by step book to actual Dragonhood (for those that comprehend them); leads to massive real spiritual powerlevel.
Spend some time with them and you'll figure them out.
Third eye practice books; sigils include loads of Metaphysical information

>>40635072

>>40635520
It's both. You try fitting in a cat cage without knocking over the bottles standing in it!

>>40635631

>>40635628
I will keep so in mind, i just bookmarked it as a practice book, honestly i am not really convinced with all this paranormal stuff, but i will keep walking in path because i enjoy it eitherways, i will figure out if i can reach or have any actual experiences with the paranormal

>>40635644
The world is far, far bigger than a cat cage, and dragons are usually not so large that they cannot move around and control themselves without causing so much destruction around their environment. They are intelligent creatures, they can fly, and they can choose to destroy, or not to destroy. They just simply lack humanity.

>>40635661
Leads to massive real world paranormal effects on your daily life when you're tuning in to the current.
Look for signs and you'll notice them quickly.

>>40635667
It's a metaphorical way to describe Chaos anon. You are taking it far too literally. Unless I wake up and see a dragon actually fly across the sky (which would be awesome and I wish for a lot) I'm going to keep considering dragons to be metaphor toward the functionality of Chaos as the first force of nature/activation of reality.

>>40635680
Different anon here, I'm gonna be honest, I'm not going to read any of those books myself personally, mostly because I have reading comprehension problems and I'm just not very good at absorbing a ton of information.

You wouldn't mind summarizing it in a general and easy to understand manner? Break down Barney-style for me? You don't need to of course, thank you regardless.

>>40635680
Ok

>>40634679 (OP)
ouroboros, the snake eating itself, an entity devouring what it has achieved (ego), i think that's a really nice represention of the serpent, adam- 1st: the one, eve -2nd: a reflection/clone of the counterpart, serpent-3rd: ego, god in all, the serpent wise but impulsive convinces others to perform the original sin, i think the bible showcased it beautifully, as twisted by the humans it may be, it still contains some of The Narrative.

>>40635689
Dragons are large scale players of "The Great Game" (stuff advanced spiritual practitioners are doing).
Nefirtiti of ancient Babylon/Egypt etc is an example. (real Monarchs are not natural beings; the world is built through spiritual strategy games; ie civilizations are founded spiritually; not by normal humans choosing to found a nation and building a bunch of buildings one day or something).

>>40635689
Anon, I am also speaking metaphorically as well, and I still stand by what I said. The devil is in the details, anon, and all of the ancient lore on dragons oftentimes showcase the stories where the dragons can have the capacity to think, reason, and make their own choices, just like humans do, but that they simply lack humanity. There is real meaning to these fictional stories when we compare it towards the idea of Chaos itself, so it's important to acknowledge this even when we are speaking in metaphorical terms.

And with that being said, as humans, we should metaphorically be like dragons, while still retaining our own real and precious humanity.

>>40635700
Step by step educations on advanced metaphysics. Instructions for "the spiritual alchemy"; upgrades to different parts of the body; loads of genetical formulae etc; teaches you to upgrade stuff like nervous system, hair, bone, blood, etc etc with a bunch of advanced stuff; upgrades to different organs.
Also teaches you how to play spiritual strategy games effectively; how to defend yourselves against conspiracies for example.

>>40635760
I see, that seems really interesting. Thanks a lot btw for giving me a general idea of what this means, I'm considering taking the time and effort in order to read the material on this subject when I feel ready to do so. Again, thank you.

>>40635760
"Q-anon: trust the plan" comes from said books.
("Q" is a "Qayinite" movement).
Educates you on the stuff going on politically behind the scenes in the world as well.

>>40635729
a Lovely comment

>>40635778
Do it; can strongly reccomend it.
If you're looking for a "full-time lifestyle change" then Liber Falxifer 3 is the best stuff to go to. Leads you into "intelligence community stuff" (spiritual education to get loads of insights into the world around you; as well as understanding spiritual communications etc)
The "nobody general threads" here on /x/ are about the being called "Qayin" in said books.
The books aren't human written btw; they're "spiritually generated". ie advanced Sigil structures with advanced functionality.

>>40635827
Advanced codebooks btw.
Templar initiations.

>>40635827
O.P here, i am still a pretty noob into /x/ core stuff as i may have stated eariler, after i am done with T.S.T.O.A.A i am going to get into Rudolf steiner's work do you know him?
i must be patient and enjoy the journey, thankfully i have a lot of free time.