Thread 40665472

Is there anyone on here who has been able to reach their psychic abilities without going schizo or have moved past the schizo?

>>40665472 (OP)
Yeah but it's one of those catch-22 situations where reaching the state of mind where you *can* use those abilities without going insane makes you not want to use them anymore either. Like it ruins your motivations for wanting powers in the first place.

>>40665477
Like you just kinda feel bad for having "unfair advantages" and then you wind up lobotomizing yourself back to a normal state. It's happened to me three times already - two of those were by accident.

>>40665472 (OP)
The only schizophrenic part about it is its taboo status in western culture, which can give rise to an uncomfortable contradiction between your worldview and that of the surrounding society. Using additional senses doesn’t make you schizo - it’s the cognitive dissonance many feel.

There are other cultures where psi is normal and they have no special issues. If anything, the more open and honest cultural environment is better for mental health.

>>40665472 (OP)
I believe I have but by abilities continue to grow so maybe schizo is not out of the picture yet.

Do you want to know how I am not currently schizo? Because if you do, I am unsure I have a simple answer and would a schizo person know if they were schizo. Maybe I am? I don't believe to be and I try follow a moral life but what if life itself is the illusion and morals do not exist? Would such thoughts be the thoughts of a schizo? Or better yet, what is a schizo to you?

What if I told you all humans have a schizo aspect within their mind. Which you could unlock if you had the control of mind to unlock. It would allow you to peer into the mind of a schizo, allowing embodiment of the aspect of a schizo while maintaining control to not indulge it. This is what I believe to have found on my inner journey of self mastery.

Know the self fully and know you already schizo, the whole thing is. Your will is putting it in a box and locking it with a key. Not to abandon but to let mature and watch from a safe distance as it grows along side you instead of consuming you.

>>40665486
Why don't you use the unfair advantage in order to help those in need instead of self harming?

>>40665472 (OP)
>psychic abilities without going schizo
inherently schizophrenic. The most "realistic" psi ability which could be used militarily: telepathy, involves "hearing someone else's thoughts inside your head" and "believing that someone else is listening to your thoughts".
If the most basic ability is real, or synthetically real through technology, it is essentially "useful schizophrenia".

What psychic ability is there which isn't the same as saying you have schizophrenia?
>commune with spirits
>predict the future
>talk to e.t.
And what is the psychic's source?
>I saw it in a dream.
If you believe in /x/ material then schizophrenics are the normal people.

>>40665486
By lobotomizing yourself do you mean through medication or natural methods?

>>40665584
You bring forth many questions. I don’t think knowing things is immoral. Or using to your advantage as long as you don’t actively hurt others in the process.
Can you activate the abilities while they are in a box? I’m trying to find the line between complete loss of touch or reality while having real abilities.
For example hearing negative voices vs talking telepathically.

>>40665472 (OP)
Define "psychic abilities". What system / path are you on?

>>40665597
You'll only understand once you're actually in that state why you wouldn't actually do that. It's like the butterfly effect on steroids - the tiniest little actions in that state can drastically affect thousands of lives. You can only truly understand the scale of things once you have the perspective.

Everything is going exactly as it should - and when the moment is right you will naturally reach that state without needing to force it or accidentally stumbling upon it. My proper time is coming soon, and so will yours.

>>40665699
I just literally went "I don't want to be like this anymore" and fell back down to normalcy. It's tough to describe.

>>40665794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNmaKyMsr64

You shouldn't be so afraid of yourself

>>40665794
Essentially, you become too powerful to participate in this world without destroying it.

>>40665822
It's like having fear of a thermonuclear bomb with a hair trigger inside your soul. It's a rational fear.

>>40665827
But there are others with the ability and id like to imagine guardians who prevent too much influence.

>>40665834
One that must be conquered none the less or else you will never be truly free of it - just believe in your capacity to do good, if you didn't have any you wouldn't be afraid in the first place and you should want to protect those in need instead of running in fear of yourself that's what a hero is bro learn to control yourself instead of running from it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTy4kDArGb8

>>40665644
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all psychics are schtizos its just magi hold in there spaghetti and rationalize the kaos in a way that befits them and doesnt cause alarm to others
like most magi know explaining real magic to normies is a complete waste of time
it just comes off as schitzo
so every thing just has to be a coincidence that makes normies go oh hmm that was weird and then move on as it is there nature (programming) to block out that kindof stuff
this is why in the west people who here voices usually describe the voices as negative evil while people in the east see voices as more benevolent
its our "cult"ural training basically psychic abilities feed off the psyche so if the psyche is trained to think these abilities are spooky evil they will become spooky evil
manifesting destiny

so when a "normie" accesses these abilities or are born into them in a cruel environment not fit for them they crash out thinking theyre going crazy or that its demons aliens evil fungis ect its how theyve been trained

>>40665834
anon you take the material realm to linearity to seriously you could blow up one million realms and there would still be infinite more to take there place without anyone being the wise except for maybe you but if you had the power to destroy a reality youd have the power to manifest it back to the same so it wouldnt really matter

so dont just learn to control yourself learn to not take yourself so seriously

really the scariest thing about breaking a reality is realizing youre all one
alone

>>40665839

Eh, you'd be surprised. The vast majority who reach that state just sorta fuck off to other realities - this reality is simply too fragile to handle beings on that scale. There are guardians for sure but they barely interfere for the same reason I lobotomized myself thrice - just the slightest interaction can greatly impact this world.

I met someone else the second time I reached that state and they described it as "boring" to stay here once you reach that state. It's kinda like choosing to hang out in the tutorial area of an MMORPG or something forever. I stayed behind because I could just feel it in my heart that I had shit to do still, things holding me back. I didn't wanna be hung up on that shit

>>40665875
>>40665958
You just gotta be there to understand man, I can't explain it. You'll understand when you're there.

>>40665975
https://youtu.be/GE8SeSBpqeM

>>40666043
i have been there i didnt handle it as i should have i am litterally speakng to myself with the archetpe of doubt in the form of you

i started your video it seems marktwain lost himself in the nothing forgetting he is everything

>>40666072
We're all the primary observers so it's zero-sum. If you want to leave no one is stopping you - you can also leave for other dreams. But "fixing" this one the way you suggest would burst the dream like a bubble. That's why it hasn't been done - we're hardly the first to reach that summit (not by a longshot) and we're far from the last. But I'm going to stick around to hit the lights on the way out the door

>>40666072
i just realized why so many people fail the test
they think they are only there thoughts
meaning if there thoughts arent real they must not be
not realizing they made there thoughts

like how people think they are the world and if the world isnt real they must not be no
senpai
you made the world you made yourself to host yourself to explore infinity through linearity

>>40666091
only one reaches the summit one has no limits because there isnt one reality you sem to think there is but we are traelng infinite possibilites as we speak you dont go from one to another like a cartoon teleportation its a smooth transition as you are in constant travel

>>40666043
just finished watching the video its a retardedly edge lord dark angle perspective of dreaming a dream and being a dreamer

I think it's like the stanley parable; I 100% know there's at least one guy out there who has thousands of hours in the "8 game", so no one is actually lost or sacrificed or anything, everyone just unpacks and roots themselves, so to speak

>>40666178
i have no idea what youre saying but 888 is the word

>>40665472 (OP)

takes hella time and doesnt happen in the way its popularly understood, but absolutely.

seferhodaah.neocities.org

>>40666043
How does one reach that state? You brought up something extremely interesting that I haven't really heard before.
I reached a point where I feel like I'm on the brink of a breakthrough but I've been on hold for so many years that I became frustrated. It's a very real sensation that I've been researching without ever finding an answer. Imagine a cold windy etheric mass bursting from "chakric" points that never goes away and only amplifies/extends with the slightest attention to overwhelming degrees.

>>40666172
You just don't understand. You will with time. When you've never experienced it before - it seems so obvious "why not just snap my fingers and make everything so much better", but when you're actually there you realize "why would I ever do that? It misses the point entirely".

>>40666544
Everyone has their own unique method that is specific to them. Only you will know your own path, but it definitely seems like you're on it. I wish you well my friend, if you want it you will find it. That's just the way it is, the path will show itself.

>>40666178
Exactly - once the last person "quits" this bugged and unfinished game the "update" can roll out for everyone without issue. We can't relaunch the game with people on the server still, however - because everyone is God, everyone is the primary observer. So as long as even one piece of us is here we can't update this server because that one aspect of us will just stop ourselves. Everyone has to let go, and eventually we all will.

>>40665472 (OP)
Yes I work on them daily. Everybody sees differently.

>>40667187
I didn't ask to be born - to be some freak mutant prototype. They could've just as easily made me a female counterpart instead of leaving me alone to rot.

Instead they scapegoat their mistakes onto me, because I am this flawed and accidental creation that they can't destroy - because even they don't understand me. They know I can take the heat in a way no one else can - doesn't make it right though. Doesn't make it play. I just hope they know that in the world to come I will do a far, far better job at running things than they ever did.

>>40667322
>BPD: the post

>>40667036
reminiscent of attack on titan, where when you gain the ultimate power, it comes with an inescapable desire to not use said power

i really want to believe you here, but it's a terribly convenient explanation. like oh yeah i totally become all-powerful but i just didn't want to use it and decided to become normal again, the universe all works out man.
it mirrors the journey of a comedown from a strong psilocybin/dmt trip, where people report feeling like they're god and the feeling slowly leaving them as their chemistry resets to baseline. in this case it'd just be post-rationalization that you chose to let go of that omnipotence

i can't shake my skepticism without direct experience; what do you recommend to go see for myself? kundalini yoga, psychadelics, gateway tapes?

>>40665472 (OP)
I have nothing to gain from lying.
I have had periods of focused practice. A part of the ("spiritual") practice was attempting psychokinesis while "fully awake."
It genuinely worked and got better, but the quality of pk was unstable. It was not a linear progression, just came in spikes. Sometimes nothing happened, other times I could slide balls across rough furniture.
It almost always made my heart and mind run like crazy. The sight of shit moving "IRL" is phenomenal and very scary because immediately you think "what if I give myself an aneurism now" as the object moves in this incredibly fluid and smooth way. Weird thing is, the movement could be directed, but it always felt like an subconscious happening. To sum it up, the state of mind required was expansive, detached and allowing.

I went full schizo periodically and never moved past it. In fact, I have developed some issues. I now hear a piercing high frequency point in my spacious auditory awareness. Mostly sits in my right ear, but I have managed to learn how to consciously move it around and sometimes it just does on its own. I can also fall into very vivid and deep daydreams if I'm not careful. Also, genuinely, feel like an alien. The biggest change has been the cultivation of a more expansive spectrum of "good" and "evil" within myself.

There is other stuff I won't reveal, but it gets weird.

>>40667704

Yeah I know it sounds like the cosmic equivalent of "just wash your hands" but brotha I'm telling you shit really is that simple. Most people just leave this dream for a better one when they get to that point - I chose to come back. You can stay at that level but it just kinda feels trivial.

That's all there is to it.

>>40667148
except there's at least four anchors that cannot quit, and one seems to be Berlin and fascism vs anti-fascism as Atomnazis vs Chauvimoslems.

>>40667334
telling someone they have BPD is accusing them of not wanting to raise their sister as a goat to fuck and eat them, and this here is a blue board, so that's a bad post and you should feel bad, go back to /b/ and sort yourself out

>>40665472 (OP)
what do you call seeing into the past? if there is a current problem or situation i want to know about, or get some strange feeling about something, i can look into the past and see the events that caused what is happening in the present.

>>40667764
The random thoughts are the problem like what if I just stop my heart or set myself on fire. It scares me from concentrating too deeply.