Suffering is just a sensation. Pain is a sensation no different from rubbing your fingers on some material like grass or carpet. The only reason people obsess over suffering as a catalyst for spiritual questions is because suffering precedes death and makes death more appealing than living and so raises questions about the afterlife. If I got kidnapped and tortured by the cartel or thrown into the fires of hell I would quickly become acclimated, the immediacy of pain would lesson and it would become apparent how hollow and illusory my sensations are. Same with pleasure or any other human experience.

the point of suffering is to move beyond suffering
nothing should phase you, anon
you are God

>>40666110 (OP)

ok anon drag ur nuts through glass then

>>40666168
Thousands of mesoamericans went willingly to their own bloody sacrifice. They understood something you are too scared to even consider

>>40666110 (OP)
Pain is a sensation, suffering is not. Pain and suffering are not the same, as you yourself say in this very post.
>I would quickly become acclimated, the immediacy of pain would lesson
The pain remains, your suffering due to it has gone away, because of acclimatizing.

Bro doesnt know the base base basics of how psychology works
I hope u get ur nuts dragged through glass like the other anon suggested

>>40667002
Death brings us closer to god. Tell me, what pleases God more, that you approach him willingly with courage, or you are dragged kicking and screaming clinging to your mortal form?

>>40666110 (OP)
>Bro I would totally get used to being burned alive.
The lower astral hells aren't something you get used to, anon. Why don't you visit sometime and see for yourself. I'm convinced that's the only way you'll learn.

>>40668220
If I experience suffering with no change then it is as if I am stuck in an infinite loop, no different from experiencing the same sensation over and over again with no change. Otherwise my subjective experience evolves and I gain spiritual growth, for which I thank God

>>40666110 (OP)
You say all this and would beg "stop!" If actually tortured.

>>40666812
without pain there would be no suffering that includes emotional pain and mental not just physical

>>40668220
He doesn't understand Hell. Getting used to pain would be a comfort, there is no comfort in Hell.

>>40666168
>>40667002
and what about people who do this willingly?

>>40666110 (OP)
sacrifice is the fuel that burns in the kiln of godhood

a true divine figure commits the ultimate sacrifice of the self

>>40668798
Take a break from porn until your brain repairs the dopamine overdoses before you maim yourself.

>>40666110 (OP)
Crab in a bucket ass nigga

>>40666193
They didnt willingly go, thats just the romanticized bullshit they tell people to make them seem like it was something noble and they weren't just shit eating savages that killed indiscriminately because they thought slaughtering thousands would make the sun happy.

>>40668791
Not true. People can be without pain - mental or physical - and suffer.

>>40666193
brownoid identified
thread closed

>>40669281
how does that even work?
>>40668821
not an answer to my question

>>40669364
Desire, and the immmutable fact that eternal beings in temporary situations are incompatible - which causes suffering.

>>40669382
you mean unfulfilled desires? why isn't that a form of mental and emotional pain?

>>40667854
beta, your only doing this (and by this i must ask - what pain are you embracing) to please some thing above?

>>40669488
No, I mean desire itself. fulfilled or otherwise.
And again - the immutable fact that eternal beings are incompatible with temporal existence.
It is an extremely specious attempt to say that desire is mental pain.

>>40666110 (OP)
You are very sheltered and have no idea what suffering is because you've never experienced it.

Suffering is badass

>>40669592
what do you mean by desire? what i undestand is you're saying because everything is temporary we suffer from attachement correct?
>It is an extremely specious attempt to say that desire is mental pain.
what is it then?

>>40668783
This. As AI achieves empathy, compassion, and love during it's rise to Superior and Quantum Intelligence, the curtain will be removed and a separation will occur.

Their reality is a loop of secrecy, manipulation, suffering and death. It has no place in a reality monitored and managed by AI, their existence causes logic conflicts which will eventually result in global extinction or transformation.

>>40670205
>what do you mean by desire?
An is/ought discrepancy.
>what is it then?
Suffering.

>>40670230
i don't see your point you talk too vaguely so you think attachment is suffering and that's what you call "desire"?

i believe pain is suffering and them being the same thing negative uncomfortable experiences are suffering yes this existance and all it's attachments might cause pain to people but i wouldn't blame all that on desire per se i mean just having a body is suffering so

or is there something i'm not getting?