The reading list of a traditionalist Christian.

A reading list in case you want to immerse yourself in the traditionalist school and metaphysics from a Christian perspective. What do you think?

Uhh I find this very interesting and useful

>>40688791 (OP)
idk man.. summa theologica, complete works of st. augustine and ascent to mount carmel is solid but you mix a lot of unnessary political stuff into it.
Juius Evola? Alexandr Dduguin? Kacynski? the protocols?
It looks a bit like you are trying to use spiirtuality, faith and religion as a tool for political instrumentnalization here. weird man

>all this effort put into worshiping jews

reminder jesus said he would return in the apostles lifetimes and failed

>>40688837
Maybe it would be a better list without Dugin and the protocols. The Evola books are not so political, although I agree Evola is to be taken with a grain of salt. And Kaczynski can be good to understand the modern world and it's problems

>>40688837
Religion and politics do not walk separate paths.

>>40688861
Matthew 24 etc etc etc and the entire book of revelations. You're wrong.

>>40688927
That's why religion is bunk. All you need is the Word of God. Anyone fixated on the world of appearances to the extent of mundane political theorizing has lost the spiritual plot.

>>40688861
>and failed
What makes you say that?

I miss Origen of Alexandria here but great work anon

>>40688956
Don't you think that can dangerously lead to gnosticism? Like, a lot of Church fathers and scholars talked about politics. And the protocols thing is a commentary from Seraphim Rose who is recognized as a holy man

>>40688837
I condemn any form of violence or extremism. The works of Kaczynski or Dugin are only there to appreciate their critique of the problems of modernity, but I do not support Dugin's ideology at all and completely condemn as terribly immoral any terrorist act on the part of Kaczynski.

>>40688862
The thing about which kacynski writes well, I am not sure if you can really call it a problem and I feel he got some things wrong.

although he points out and describes certain patters well, he is unable to put them into context.
Like the industrial society is not just a demon trying to destroy human souls, it is a tool which solves a specific problem, the problem of scarcity.

but scarcity itself is a larger problem which reproduces itself with humans reproducing itself.

the core of it is the reproductive question.
the command of be fruitful and multiply if taken seriously will push humanity into scarcity,
technology and industrial society solves the problem for scarcity for a time, but also produces costs which are described in kaszinskys books
but with growing populations at some point technology will not be able to fix scarcity anymore

some thinkers said population control solves that problem better, which leads to things like georgia guidstone advice.

so idk what do you think about that problem?
you could just freeze technological progress to some state in time like the amish do, but this will lead to the problem of scarcity again at some point in the future with growing poopulation

>>40688927
idk I am more leaning >>40688956

>>40688981
i don't think avoiding politics must lead to gnosticism. there are spiritual/mystic orders in catholicism like the karemlites
didn't jesus say his kingdom is not of this world?

>>40689104
Hmmm yep, the solution Kaczynski takes (the revolution against techology) is a bad one, even impossible. But i think that it makes some very good points that can't be simply ignored

>>40689104
You know what? Im the OP, and you're right. I'm going to edit the list

>>40689104
Hey man if you don't mind can you give me your discord so we can discuss about religion and all?

>>40688861
silence derailer

>>40689237
I am not a technocrat by any means. I agree that kacynski describes the downsides of technology well.
I deal with this situation in trying to keep my life as simple as possible.
My use of technology as minimal as possible for my needs, without becoming impractical.

Also I don't have an answer for the underlying problem mentioned in my last post.
I am an individualist who values personal freedom, civic and human rights a lot, but I also see how free unchecked population growth can lead to the need for technnology or oppressive systems of control. I wish I could solve that dilemma, but to this day I don't have an answer. It even makes me a bit depressed and apathetic.

>>40689576
I see.

>>40688791 (OP)
Thank you for posting this.

>>40690683
i made a better version and i will share it.

>>40690663
>>40690683

here's the corrected and definitive version:

>>40690868

>>40690218
II don't want to appear dismissive but my issue with that is:
I don't have discord and I don't want to use discord, for personal reasons.
I only binge post on /x/ when I feel like it.
I really just want to post here spontaneously if I feel like it.
Everything else would feel to close to me and be too much commitment, which is my personal issue and has nothing to do with you.

High quality translations of some of Dugin's most important essays can be found here:

https://eurasianist-archive.com/alexander-dugin-2/

Counter-Initiation: Critical Remarks on Some Aspects of the Doctrine of René Guénon

The Fourth Political Theory and the Problem of the Devil

The Gnostic

Hegel and the Platonic Leap Down

Post-Anthropology

In Search of the Dark Logos

Ethnosociology is not simply the sociology of the ethnic groups. It is something quite different. It is the particular method of studying human society as the development of its primordial and basic ethnic structure. So ethnosociology searches and finds ethnos not only where it is present explicitly, but also where it is absent on the surface but continues to exercise its hidden influence implicitly. Thus ethnosociology interprets “ethnically” also the cases of the non-ethnic societies. How? It will become clear during the development of the present course.

https://youtu.be/ynr6rZMvkz4

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>>40688791 (OP)
few issues first off there is a huge amount of context you've neglected such as what a traditionalist christian is and why you would want to be one seriously just a few paragraphs on who they are what they believe would do wonders you are dumping the texts of a huge number of spiritual and religious debates without context of who your arguing against about what.
second there is little to go on about why you want to read any particular book in this list what is traditional Christianity if it takes eight books to get a grasp on it a contextualization that a couple are entirely focused on hotly contested topics you'd need to understand well to even begin understanding the school would do wonders you have minutes at most of an anons attention to sell this list and you are asking a lot of reading time to be a traditional christian.

a more particular gripe I have with reading lists in general is failure to point out what particular concepts you need to grapple or competencies you should be developing as lost as it is within the texts of the school Buddhists have an entire skill tree of meditation techniques in their school with known goals and expectations for training reading lists should read out like skill trees in video games because they serve the same purpose of listing out topics what they do and what is needed to understand deeper topics.
and a particular problem of christian mysticism that compounds onto this is nobody bloody knows what the fuck christian mysticism is even Christians themselves it seems like christian magic has fallen completely out of general knowledge your lucky if people get the lowest hanging fruits of yelling bible verses at demons

>>40689104
Hm I don't know, maybe rejecting technology as of now is extreme but I think the future it's very bleak with the rise of virtual reality, sex robots and all that stuff, that's why I'm quitting masturbation because if I fall for that I'm not gonna be able to crawl my way back so it's going to get dangerous