It is a heroic thing, and extremely brave, to align yourself against a being who claims to be the ultimate power in the universe and call his bluff.

>>40696389 (OP)
I dunno but in pic case, he did out of jealousy to the son of God later this turned into hubris

nothing heroic in that if u ask me

>>40696389 (OP)
>t. Satan coping

>>40696389 (OP)
Based

>>40696389 (OP)
lucifer is a gay baby raging troon who tries to self-destruct and kill reality every time he gets an ass beating or someone says he's wrong. like the ultimate onions gamer who breaks his controller every time he loses. what a dumb little bitch lmao

>>40696389 (OP)
It is an even greater thing to call his bluff because his lie is one of love.

Lucifer represents one way of living life, Yahweh another. Pick whoever represents that which you are drawn towards.

If you pick Lucifer, do not be impressed by those who are drawn towards Yahweh. There are always more of them, and just one of you will always be enough to upset them and drive them into either tantrums or childish insults.

>>40696861
There are numerically more more people who are slaves to Satan than Christians in the world. You are just flat out wrong.

>>40696874
Yahweh spans beyond merely Christianity. The general concept of what Yahweh represents spreads even further. The opposition is always lower in number, which is fine. It does fundamentally require being part of a collective to lose yourself in.

Your immediate aggression only proves what I said.

>>40696389 (OP)
The line between bravery and stupidity is thin and easily crossed.

>>40696389 (OP)

If you can see through it too easily then it is not really bravery, rather common sense. Unless we are discussing basilisks and alignment problems instead.

>>40696907
You seem like the kind of guy who takes any formal disagreement as proof that you're correct yeah. Well that's nice Yahweh is just whatever you want him to be that's very convenient for you. Outside of lala land humanity generally either worships demons or is strictly materialist. Christianity is billions of people, but everything else is billions more. You want to feel like the underdog because you think that imbues your position with some version of heroism, but Satan is actually the ruler of this physical world. You aren't part of a dichotomy, you are picking a shadow cast over the ground rather than the sun. You're just a dupe.

>>40696953
I welcome disagreement, you simply left no room for discussion with your absolute assertion. I know that's due to the simplistic attitude of "I am on the side of the bigger guy who everyone says is the bigger and the right guy, so I am that, too, and you must follow sui or be wrong." It's simply something I cannot be bothered with anymore. Pointing out the obvious here isn't necessary, I hope.Sometimes, I wonder why Yahweh speaks through your ilk in such childish ways.

Freedom to, freedom from. Positive liberty, negative liberty. There is a world of knowledge outside of texts considered sacred.

>>40696389 (OP)
>It is a heroic thing, and extremely brave, to align yourself against a being who claims to be the ultimate power in the universe and call his bluff.
Thanks.

>>40696953
Holy fuck, you are retarded and you dont even realise it.

There is at present no need to touch upon the mystic and manifold meaning of the name Jehovah in its abstract sense, one independent of the Deity falsely called by that name. It was a blind created purposely by the Rabbins, a secret preserved by them with ten-fold care after the Christians had despoiled them of this God-name which was their own property.* But the following statement is made. The personage who is named in the first four chapters of Genesis variously as “God,” the “Lord God,” and “Lord” simply, is not one and the same person; certainly it is not Jehovah. There are three distinct classes or groups of the Elohim called Sephiroth in the Kabala, Jehovah appearing only in chapter iv., in the first verse of which he is named Cain, and in the last transformed into mankind—male and female, jah-veh. The “Serpent,” moreover, is not Satan, but the bright Angel, one of the Elohim clothed in radiance and glory, who, promising the woman that if they ate of the forbidden fruit “ye shall not surely die,” kept his promise, and made man immortal in his incorruptible nature. He is the Iao of the mysteries, the chief of the Androgyne creators of men. Chapter iii. contains (esoterically) the withdrawal of the veil of ignorance that closed the perceptions of the Angelic Man, made in the image of the “Boneless” gods, and the opening of his consciousness to his real nature; thus showing the bright Angel (Lucifer) in the light of a giver of Immortality, and as the “Enlightener”; while the real Fall into generation and matter is to be sought in chapter iv.

>>40697109
There, Jehovah-Cain, the male part of Adam the dual man, having separated himself from Eve, creates in her “Abel,” the first natural woman, and sheds the Virgin blood. Now Cain, being shown identical with Jehovah, on the authority of the correct reading of verse i. (chapter iv., Genesis), in the original Hebrew text; and the Rabbins teaching that “Kin (Cain), the Evil, was the Son of Eve by Samael, the devil who took Adam’s place”; and the Talmud adding that “the evil Spirit, Satan, and Samael, the angel of Death, are the same” —(Babba Battra, 16a) — it becomes easy to see that Jehovah (mankind, or “Jah-hovah”) and Satan (therefore the tempting Serpent) are one and the same in every particular. There is no Devil, no Evil, outside mankind to produce a Devil. Evil is a necessity in, and one of the supporters of the manifested universe. It is a necessity for progress and evolution, as night is necessary for the production of Day, and Death for that of Life — that man may live for ever.

>>40697070
Woo woo nonsense. Christians don't want you smoking weed or whatever your "thing" is so you prefer Satan. Or you have daddy issues. That's really all this is. It's all it ever is.
>>40697096
Wow what a thought provoking reply

>>40696389 (OP)
<3 I love Him so much bros

>>40697165
He would pluck your eyes from your skull and eat them in front of you. Satan does not like humans. At all. He doesn't care how much you like him.

>>40696389 (OP)
there were bluffs all around, you guys.

>>40697178
Sorry, the context is, this morning I was in tears in front of Him, God, who came to visit me in California today. And I can still hear the organs playing of the Great Spirit. The Melody is everlasting.

The last thing I remember saying while prostrating was,

Have no fear,
fear is the mind killer,
and God works through mind,
and may intervene because He loves you so,
so fear not the impossible.

>>40697163
You realised the kind of nonsense you were spewing without me even directly pointing it out, and now, you've moved on to arguments straight from the Satanic Panic of the 1980s.

Please, Yahweh, you have done better before with people you've possessed. You're not much more thought provoking than the guy who called you retarded.

“The “Dragon of Wisdom” is the One, the “Eka” (Sanskrit) or Saka. It is curious that Jehovah’s name in Hebrew should also be One, Echod. “His name is Echod”: say the Rabbins. The philologists ought to decide which of the two is derived from the other—linguistically and symbolically: surely, not the Sanskrit? The “One” and the Dragon are expressions used by the ancients in connection with their respective Logoi. Jehovah — esoterically (as Elohim) — is also the Serpent or Dragon that tempted Eve, and the “Dragon” is an old glyph for “Astral Light” (Primordial Principle), “which is the Wisdom of Chaos.” Archaic philosophy, recognizing neither Good nor Evil as a fundamental or independent power, but starting from the Absolute ALL (Universal Perfection eternally), traced both through the course of natural evolution to pure Light condensing gradually into form, hence becoming Matter or Evil. It was left with the early and ignorant Christian fathers to degrade the philosophical and highly scientific idea of this emblem (the Dragon) into the absurd superstition called the “Devil.” They took it from the later Zoroastrians, who saw devils or the Evil in the Hindu Devas, and the word Evil thus became by a double transmutation D’Evil in every tongue (Diabolos, Diable, Diavolo, Teufel). But the Pagans have always shown a philosophical discrimination in their symbols. The primitive symbol of the serpent symbolised divine Wisdom and Perfection, and had always stood for psychical Regeneration and Immortality.

>>40697163
You post like you are either a gosh hecking ebin redeemed zoomer or a religious boomer. They always sound alike and dont realise when someone is dancing in circles around them. The cudgel of "I liek guy who is right" only works on easily impressionable autists.

Gtfo and lurk moar.

>>40696389 (OP)
Lucifer is an incel

>>40697235
You are going to regret typing that sentence.

>>40697273
>You are going to regret typing that sentence.
It's OK, just don't blaspeme the spirit.
His name is Jesus. I'm not Jesus.

>>40697281
I am the Holy Spirit.

>>40696389 (OP)
Think about how logic functions.

>>40697283
Nice to meet you. Who am I?

>>40697344
hmm?

>>40697178
>He would pluck your eyes from your skull and eat them in front of you.
What's the difference, can't see it.

God: Please use the immense power, dignity, intelligence and subtly I have generously infused you with to benefit others

Satan: lol no

What a tragic hero after the Grecian model.

>>40697744
He is benefiting others though. How is being YHVH's unquestioning slave for eternity benefitting you?

>>40696389 (OP)
>call his bluff
then why did he lose and keeps seething today?

>>40697783
He didn't lose.

>>40697790
>he didn't ACCKK

>>40697199
Hallelujah. Bless you anon.

>>40697201
What argument is there to be had? You worship a version of Satan that exists exclusively within your own mind . What am I debating here, the imaginary friend you made up for yourself?
>Satan is totally 100% evil and hates humanity
>"Nuh uh. Not MY Satan. My Satan wants me to do SELF CARE and LOVES ME LIKE A SON!"
Ok but that is not a version of Satan that anyone but you people believe in. And you only believe in it in opposition to Christianity, not because you have any particularly compelling reasons to. So what the fuck am I supposed to say here besides assuming you're crazy and have some vice you don't want to kick that Satan enables and God doesn't

>>40697234
I don't care about your opinion of me you are a string of text on a screen

>>40696389 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA8AfQaUnXM

>>40696437
Why did gob create a being with the ability to covet? And then get mad about it? Is god the proverbial retard who makes the thread about the thing he hates?

>>40697887
For not caring at all, you sure enjoy sperging out like a Christian Facebook mom.

Nigga, this is X, not your WBC Facebook group. Nobody cares about your strictly Bible-truth position. We read other shit, too. You are as basic as it gets, and it shows.

>>40696389 (OP)
I don't deal with fictional deoties and their supposed creations

>>40699802
The other shit you read was made up by theosophist hippies in the early 1900's and is a series of arbitrary elaborations upon the basic ideas presented by the philosophy. There is no basis for anything you believe besides that someone else said it, who changed a little bit of what someone else said, who got the idea from some German bitch a century ago. She literally just made shit up and everyone from Crowley to LaVey iterated upon Helena Blavatsky's ideas with their own twist in whatever their preferred direction was. It is, literally, nonsensical larping from practical neophytes. Everything you believe was made up by idiots who hated their fathers and died broke and alone.

>>40699956
I am not him, you reeing spastic. I don't even adhere to this Abrahamic bullshit, be it from the desert adventure volumes 1-3 or Blalultsky. Even I know that it goes far deeper than the Hippie edgelord shit that you mentioned. Youre just wilfully blind, uneducated and stupid. It's why you sound like an advert from the 80s about the Satanic Panic. You tick every box. Muh drugs, muh daddy issues, muh Satan, muh damnation, muh Bible. This isnt the Bible study board, you faggot. The barrier for entry is higher.

Gtfo, lurk and read moar.

>>40696953
>You seem like the kind of guy who takes any formal disagreement as proof that you're correct yeah
You're projecting

>>40696389 (OP)
1/4 or all the infinite living entities do this, including you and I. So uncommon but not really rare.
And it kind of deflates the whole brave part since God then goes "Of course! Let me give you an entire multiverse to experience and exhaust this rebellion you want, and I promise to be absent until you ask me back into your life."

>>40699779
>And then get mad about it?
When
He literally and canonically gambles with him from time to time

>>40696953
Based

>>40700105
>posts this
>goes on a spergfest about how he's right by default
Why are Christfags like this?

>>40700094
No, you don't. You are a fucking liar and are just regurgitating random buzzwords while making no particular point. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>40697235
Suck a dick faggot

>>40700105
Bad faith
>>40700167
Again, this is in bad faith

>>40700239
Meant for >>40697273

>>40700233
>>40700241
You bring up basic Biblical points, figures like LaVey, and 80s Satanic Panic arguments, then scream about buzzwords.

You belittle people, insult them and assert unassailable truth, then call bad faith when your faggotry is called out.

Holy shit, the faggotry. You dont even know how much you are proving everything the Luciferfag you are responding to has said.

So brave and heroic to be against someone who simply asks you not to rape and murder.

>>40700293
Christians have done much rape and murdering throughout history.

>>40696953
Sorry Satavirgin, but this christcuck is right

>>40700293
>So brave and heroic to be against someone who simply asks you not to rape and murder.
It actually is, because on the surface it sounds moral, but which people would be the most concerned with convincing people not to commit murder in general? The ones people want to kill.

>>40700272
Your desperate attempts at baiting read to me as being botlike. You're not saying anything. I've already won this argument. You don't understand the things you believe or where they came from.

>>40700356
>gets a mirror held up to his face
>sees his own retardation
>LALALALALALALA BOTS LALALALALALALA I WIN LALALALA

God really gives his most retarded soldiers his toughest battles.

>>40700356
What baiting? You responded to the chill Satantard like a raging faggot. You tried to bait but only baited yourself.

>>40700398
>>40700415
No argument detected

>>40700523
Likewise.

>>40696389 (OP)
yes, they literally called his bluff and, as expected, failed. God wants his angels to have free will, he wants them to make choices for themselves. unfortunately, there's no other way and god would never make something that actually has the power to destroy him. that would be idiotic. God can't be destroyed, but Satan can try to destroy as man of his creations as possible. only the strongest humans will survive this and that's who god wants. it literally is Satan coping as the other anon put it

>>40700527
No, I already made my argument. I said that everything you believe is made the fuck up and it's extremely easy to trace the lineage of your thinking back to some random dumbass bitch who didn't base anything she said off of anything in particular besides connections she made in her own head. You said that you
>Akshually believe in something FAR older and WAY MORE LEGITIMATE
But I can't think of a single tradition prior to theosophy that does shit like conflate the character of Lucifer with Prometheus and present him as a liberator as opposed to an oppressor and source of evil. Ok, so what the fuck do you believe? Enlighten me. If you call me an angry christcuck I automatically win btw

its only heroic if you're morally correct in doing so
this is just glorifying challenging authority for the sake of challenging authority
OP never got over his rebellious teen phase and struggles to hold down a job

>>40700691
If the abrahamic god is real he's a petty tyrant who cursed all of humanity because two people ate a fruit they weren't supposed to, how is that not something worth rebelling against?

>>40700853
That isn't what Satan rebelled against, Satan directly caused that. Satan rebelled because he hated humans, thought he was smarter than God, and staged a coup against his own father. A coup that he knew prior to starting it would be unsuccessful, and that he only attempted out of his own pride.

>>40700859
>Satan directly caused that.
>But the omnipotent god didn't delete him and fix everything, e.g. send A&E to heaven and start over.
Cope.

>>40700659
I said I dont believe in anything Abrahamic, but that even I know that you are uneducated on the matter and base all of your "arguments" on baseline Christfag bullshit that doesnt look past the 1900s. You probably confuse me for the one Luciferposter whose two posts sent you spiralling ITT, like his first post said you would. Learn to read.

Explain why anyone should enlighten you if you prove to be this incapable of reading, comprehending, and baseline courteous conversation. It's like an incontinent man hitting you before shitting his pants and demanding you clean him up. It's either a waste of time or far more amusing to keep you shitting yourself. Take your pick.

>>40701007
God doesn't delete anyone. That isn't something he does, once you begin existing you exist forever.
>>40701008
>No reply
No anon, I do not need to justify myself to you you contemptible faggot. Either you're going to tell me, or not. I win either way because you're just going to go in circles complaining about how mean I was to you by knowing more than you like a whiny little bitch. You haven't presented any counterfactual claims, you just keep calling me mean and stupid like an angry child and insisting you know more than me without actually elaborating upon what you supposedly know. I don't think you know a single fucking thing, and are just saying shit because you like to argue with strangers over nothing on the internet because you're an unemployed loser with a bundle of personality disorders that make you practically non-functional as an individual.
>Inb4 ur projecting
Do you understand how predictable you are

>>40700541
>yes, they literally called his bluff and, as expected, failed. God wants his angels to have free will, he wants them to make choices for themselves. unfortunately, there's no other way and god would never make something that actually has the power to destroy him. that would be idiotic. God can't be destroyed, but Satan can try to destroy as man of his creations as possible. only the strongest humans will survive this and that's who god wants. it literally is Satan coping as the other anon put it

It's amazing that they knew I was bluffing *something*.

I was watching the Matrix Reloaded movie.

Here's what I learned:

The Matrix Reloaded is a test of the viewer, against the watchers who can watch your every move, and now even your mind. Every line, every saying, every quip is like a test of your reaction. The dialog is about you "knowing" something, and the scenery is full of police staring down at you. They're testing to see if you know that you are being watched fully. I was using a 5G router while this was happening. Since then I have switched to something lower in power.

Here's what I suspect in addition:

They read your mind by internet devices (e.g. even hotspot on your phone) and if you're turned to it you can hear it, it sounds like little beats, like gentle but quick drumming where the drumstick is muffled with cloth, and the drum is very loose, and the drum is big, behind you, far away.

the frequency changes with your thoughts, it adapts, I think, but the drumming is the scanning of your brain and body.

>>40701052
Dumbass schizo narcissist

>>40701024
Nor do I have to justify myself to you. No proper, factual claims were given by you either, aside from "muh drugs, muh daddy issues, muh LaVey". Why would I make the effort to feed someone knowledge if they are proving themselves this unwilling to devour any of it and spend half a thread sperging out? If you want things done for you, be less of a faggot about it. Any /x/schizo would tell you to fuck off, and several did ITT. I am also not the guy who told you that you are projecting, either.

You did exactly as the Luciferfag predicted before you even were ITT, and even I think he's a pompous, LARPing spastic. At least he's not a faggot, however.

>>40701052
>>40700541
>yes, they literally called his bluff and, as expected, failed. God wants his angels to have free will, he wants them to make choices for themselves. unfortunately, there's no other way and god would never make something that actually has the power to destroy him. that would be idiotic. God can't be destroyed, but Satan can try to destroy as man of his creations as possible. only the strongest humans will survive this and that's who god wants. it literally is Satan coping as the other anon put it

It's amazing that they knew I was bluffing *something*.

I was watching the Matrix Reloaded movie.

Here's what I learned:

The Matrix Reloaded is a test of the viewer, against the watchers who can watch your every move, and now even your mind. Every line, every saying, every quip is like a test of your reaction. The dialog is about you "knowing" something, and the scenery is full of police staring down at you. They're testing to see if you know that you are being watched fully. I was using a 5G router while this was happening. Since then I have switched to something lower in power.

Here's what I suspect in addition:

They read your mind by internet devices (e.g. even hotspot on your phone) and if you're turned to it you can hear it, it sounds like little beats, like gentle but quick drumming where the drumstick is muffled with cloth, and the drum is very loose, and the drum is big, behind you, far away.

the frequency changes with your thoughts, it adapts, I think, but the drumming is the scanning of your brain and body.

I suggest *not* watching that movie with the internet on. Only download it to watch it.

>>40701058
This really is like talking to a bot you are so perfectly obtuse and hostile it's like you were fine-tuned to be as obnoxiously incorrect as humanely possible in a laboratory. Suck a fucking cock you worthless piece of shit

>>40696389 (OP)
You are on a conveyor belt in a slaughter house.
Do something with your life relevant to this decision or it is not even a little impressive.

>>40701067
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I hope the knot in your stomach, tightness in your jaw and heat in your face won't last too long, you self-righteous and blind faggot.

>>40701073
Self righteous, it always comes back to you fucking imbeciles being insecure because you think we're better than you. You think I'm self righteous? You took a core figure of my religion, turned him into a product for rebellious teenagers, then turned around and insisted I was insane and didn't understand him because I read the fucking book he literally came from. You are the most retarded people in the history of humanity, there is no group of people more fucking stupid and less self aware than modern edgelord consumersois. You don't believe in Abrahamism? Then why the fuck do you keep arguing with me and saying irrelevant bullshit you braindead nigger? Do you like Satan or not? If you do, you're fucking stupid, if you don't and you've spent the last hour or so arguing with me about something you don't even believe, you're twice as stupid. Either way, you are a fucking idiot.

>>40701101
Why would I see myself as beneath you? I don't. Plus, with how you are losing it, you are putting yourself beneath anyone who has responded to you ITT so far. Everything else you have said can be summed up with "That guy's post offended me", and you have no idea how that proves the point of every single Satanfag out there, not just that guy.

I told you why I keep responding earlier.

>>40701024
>God doesn't delete anyone. That isn't something he does, once you begin existing you exist forever.
That dumb rule is worth billions of man-years of misery to "god"? Could break it, nah.

>>40696953
Unfathomably based take.

>the sperging fag is gone

This was one of the worst Yahwehfag meltdowns Ive seen. Whew lad.

>>40702811
So glad I have faith in The Allfather so that the jewish demons loserifer and zoggay have no power over me.

Without faith in The Allfather and his son Platinum Jesus you’ll go to Hel.

>>40701101
I have made two threads thus far where some of the things I spoke about pertain exactly to the likes of you. People who are wired to adhere to Lucifer's path generally won't go on hateful tirades whenever they are confronted with someone naturally wired to follow Yahweh. There is nothing to gain by doing so, and it'd be exhausting because the likes of you are far more prevalent. People who follow Yahweh, however, often feel the need to do what you just did because being confronted with someone on Lucifer's path, even someone whom you suspect to be on Lucifer's path, is perceived as a threat. It's perceived as a threat because the existence of such a person questions the foundations of what you hold to be absolute, unassailable truth. Plus, while those who follow Lucifer know you very well because you are everywhere, you barely know them because they are rare. It was always like this and will likely stay this way.

You flailed your arms around to try and punch anyone who responded to you, and you even mistook several people in here for me. For the most part, everything you have said was incredibly surface-level or juvenile insults. This wasn't a show of confidence, strength and natural superiority; it was screaming and yelling meant to masquerade insecurity not only within yourself, but within your faith. I'm not someone to tell you to STFU and GTFO, nor would I call you a retard or a faggot, but I also would not say that you did not stamp yourself in this way without any outside help.

If you don't understand that Lucifer and Yahweh might as well be different terms for concepts that have existed for thousands of years and have been repackaged, debated and rediscovered from the esoteric and alchemical to the political and sociological and instead prefer to be mindlessly bait yourself, as one Anon put it, then you really are a lost cause, at least for now.

I do think that you are on the right track with your chosen faith and worship, however.

>>40703756
Unfathomably based.

https://youtu.be/8zjRhqdjt9k

https://youtu.be/8zjRhqdjt9k

All this spergout needed was for the Christfag to start posting paintings of Jesus while reciting unrelated scripture before samefagging to reply to himself with "BASED"