Do Bible really contradict itself or is it just a meme made up by atheists?

The Bible is not a book. It's a collection of books written by different people with different understandings and different intents. Biblical literalism is also heresy.

>>40700662 (OP)
it does contradict itself.
in one verse jesus talks about compassion and love and in the next says he is not here to bring peace but to bring a sword
and in yet another verse he talks about throwing people into hellfire
it's all a bunch of bullshit

not to mention that the claim that "jesus was prophesized in the OT" is utter bullcrap. it doesn't make sense to a person with the slightest bit of intellectual integrity.
it's all made up bullshit
IMO in my opinion originally it was a slobby psyop from rome to pacify and destabilize judea when they occupied it.
then it grew for some time organically in a less dogmatic more occult/spiritual way
then rome realized it could use it to control their own population
introduced the bishop of rome centralized religious authority, made it the most efficient state religion for controlling people ever.
that is basically it

>>40700662 (OP)
All gods are mythologies
All holy books are fictional

Politics is Treachery
Religion is Brainwashing

>>40700671
>>40700680
This video shows some contratictions in the Bible, I think. Coming from different books of the Bible, but still same canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&ab_channel=NonStampCollector

>>40700695
And for counter-balance here's a response by an Evangelist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azY4KKa8UyE&ab_channel=EyesLikeFireMinistry

>>40700712
Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLNvblf23IM&ab_channel=EyesLikeFireMinistry
Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwg9_sRchyY&ab_channel=EyesLikeFireMinistry

>>40700773
>>40700712
This dude's a fuckin' tryhard.

There's literally two contradictory creation stories in Genesis.

>>40700837
>You tried! You shared holy advice with someone! Cringe!!

>>40700843
That's retarded, he's acting like those are the only contradictions in the Bible. His words aren't Holy, his words perpetuate the idea of the Christian Hell as if it is true or just.

>>40700662 (OP)
On the surface, it does contradict itself. If you compare the verses to each other, it will contradict itself. However, once you realize the true complexities of being on Earth as a human, you will see it as an ally that will protect you from the enemy, whomever that may be.

>>40700841
Yes and 2 sets of commandments received on Sinai
And the contradictions go on and on and on and on an on and on

>>40700860
These dudes don't care about what's in the Bible, they're the "ME STRONK" Christians that like all the evil shit YHWH does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVrN4_Lx-s

This is your representative...

>>40700662 (OP)
Power play test to see if your heart is trued to the right course

Why would you trust a handpicked selection of books the government has told you to use as a referent for how you live your life? Kek. Not only that but until the 14th century the Bible wasn't translated to english so the laymen couldn't even read it.

>>40700662 (OP)
Your question is stupid. You can check yourself biblical contradictions with a simple google search, the verses are all there for everyone to see, so how are "the atheists" going to make shit up?

People also need to drop that atheist umbrella term shit. Christianity is game for anyone who isn't christian, not just the atheists, which most of them are agnostic anyway.

>>40700662 (OP)
no, no actual contradictions at all but if you really want to believe there are you can do so. those willing to take the time to understand will see that what im saying is true.

>>40700883
You're joking, right?

>>40700680
You just proved you don't understand what Jesus is talking about at all. The sword in Mat. 10:34 is to be divided against the world and not an encouragement to use literal violence. Jesus speaks about hell because he wants you to be saved. There is also plenty of OT prophecy about Jesus, I suggest you read Isiah 53.

>>40700894
>There is also plenty of OT prophecy about Jesus, I suggest you read Isiah 53
>I suggest you read the verse out of context that anyone with a brain would not agree is about "The Messiah."
You're a fool, man. I can never respect a "God" who takes a human sacrifice to forgive anyone, I don't care who it is.

>>40700773
List of contradictions according to that quiz show cartoon:
1: God's anger lasts forever or maybe not (Micah 7:18 vs Jer:17:4)
2. Does God tempts people? (Gen:
22:1 vs James 1:13)
3. Salvation by faith alone or faith with works (Gal 2:16,Matt 19:17 and Luke 10:26-28, Matt 25:41-46, Matt 16:27, Romans 3:28, James 2:24)
4. Did someone see God? Can you see God?(Gen 32:30, Ex 24:9-11, Ex 33:20,1 Tim 6:16, John 1:18)
5. Does God like burnt offering? (Ex 20:24, Jer 7:22)
6. Does evil come from God? (Is 45:7, 1 John 4:8)
7. Were humans created BEFORE the animals? (Gen 1:25-27, Gen 2:18-19)
8. On the road to Damascus, did Paul's traveling companions hear the voice that spoke to Paul? (Acts 9:7, Acts 22:9)
9. Earth will last forever or maybe not (2 Peter 3:10, Ecc 1:4)
10. Jesus is the only man who ascended to heaven (2 Kings 2:11, John 3:13)
11. Children are/aren't punished for the sins of their parents (Deut 5:9, Deut 24:16)
12. God does/doesn't get tired (Is 1:14, Is 40:28, Is 43:24)

>>40700887
no

>>40700927
https://philb61.github.io/

>>40700903
Jesus checks every box for the prophecied messiah, how do you not see it?

If God is the creator of the universe does he not also make the rules? You don't get to disagree. Besides, justice demands sacrifice.

Get rid of the —— as soon as possible when I tell u to wtf? U ppl are ruining more people.

>>40700951
>Jesus checks every box for the prophecied messiah, how do you not see it?
Except he doesn't, and it's not because Jews are evil that they don't accept him as Messiah. Oh, so because someone is a creator of a Universe, that makes it okay for them to do evil? So when Chuck in Supernatural was destroying all those Universes because they didn't serve him, it was okay? Stop making excuses, dude, I don't want to hear them.

>>40700894
The fact remains Jesus acknowledges division, most scholars (including non christians) agree the sword is figurative. The consensus is that the "peace" he rejects with that "sword" is social/religious conformity in favor of inner transformation. Your regular christian wouldn't see this, in fact they've built their communities and families around social/religious conformity. The church itself bent over with social conformity just to survive and keep expanding.

Also Jesus often mentiones gehenna (hell) but he refers to the garbage pit outside Jerusalem, not a fucking metaphysical realm of eternal fire and suffering. Many mystics and early christians understood hell differently, as a condition of the soul, not a place. Jesus talked about hell as a consequence, not a punishment.

And Isaiah 53 talks about Israel contextually, not Jesus. I get it's appealing to think the OT predicted Jesus, but that's just kinda silly, why not go for the more obvious option contextually?

>>40700967
How do you know he is evil? Did you decide it yourself?
>>40700977
Yes because the teachings of Jesus will cause division when paired with those who reject the gospel but it is necessary because the truth is of eternal consequences. The fact that there are many followers of Christ with religious cohesion among themseluis not contrary to this.

It's true that hell is a consequence, the consequences of sin is death and hell is death. God doesn't exactly punish people in hell, he just gives them what they want (seperation from God).

>>40701009
You're talking to someone that knows of The Creator that doesn't have to be hamfisted to teach. You're vying for a demon in a Hell realm.

>>40700894
Jesus uses literal violence when he throws a fit in the temple.
Jesus literally threatens to throw everyone into hellfire

>Jesus speaks about hell because he wants you to be saved.
he want's me to be saved from him and calls that love
how is that different from a narc abuser telling me they just abuses me because they love me
or because it's just for my own good

>... but hell is a temporary restorative state! because of acts 3:21
so compassionate loving jesus is torturing me into submission, very loving indeed

> There is also plenty of OT prophecy about Jesus, I suggest you read Isiah 53.
Unironically I suggest you go read the critical scholary jewish perspective on that and then decide for yourself how plausible this claim is

>>40700662 (OP)
Wild meme, it's insane how crazily that kind of idea is based on strange grudges. Worship Jesus.

>>40700933
lol. lmao even.

i'll raise you a Christian Thinktank
https://www.christian-thinktank.com/
and a basic answers website
https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-Questions.html

>>40700695
>>40700712
>>40700773
>>40700915
Another rebuttal of Quiz show Bible contradictions cartoon made by Christian Hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jV4f3B_vG8&ab_channel=Christianhope

>>40700773
>>40700915
>>40701305
13. 800 thousand or 1.1 million valiant men drew the sword for Israel, as counted by Joab (2 Sam 24:9, 1 Chron 21:5)
14. David take 700 or 7000 horsmen(2 Sam 8:4, 1 Chron 18:4)
15. David pay 50 or 600 shekels for the threshing floor (2 Sam 24:24, 1 Chron 21:25)
16. The chief of King David's captains killed 800 or 300 soldiers in one encounter (2 Sam 23:8, 1 Chron 11:11)
17. One or two thieves reviled Christ (Luke 23:39-42, Mark 15:32, Matt 27:44)
18. One or two blind men were healed by Christ near Jericho (Mark 10:46, Matt 20:30)

>>40700680
This.
It's a book of bullshit.

>>40700686
>All holy books are fictional
Nope. At least one rapture has already occurred. This planet is, in fact, the place that some people from Earth (such as myself) were raptured to. We weren't "taken to Heaven." We were brought here instead. We're now on a real, physical, 3D planet that is definitely NOT Earth.

Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Moreover, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is just an impostor planet.

Make sure to read my pinned X thread (all four posts). And regarding my X bio, I'm exactly who I say I am. Bozrah natives must break free from the spell they've been under. This entire situation has gotten so ridiculous. At this point, I'm just waiting for the day of vengeance.

Pinned X thread:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589
or
https://bozrah.info

And I'm genuinely curious: How long will you keep pretending this is Earth?? The time for pretending has long since passed.

>>40702741
>It's a book of bullshit.
See this post ... >>40702848

>>40702848
Oh my god will you fuck off already

>>40702848
This should be considered advertising at this point, no one is buying your bullshit.

>>40700680
>not to mention that the claim that "jesus was prophesized in the OT" is utter bullcrap. it doesn't make sense to a person with the slightest bit of intellectual integrity.
Tell me who the "man in linen" is?

>>40700662 (OP)

When I was an edgy atheist I used to think the take of Jonah and whale was silly. But it is actually a prophetic vision of Christ's harrowing of hell.

Most people who claim this just want it to be true without putting in the work. They don't wany to learn about the historical or cultural contexts of the documents in question or become fluent enough to even understand the languages in which they were written. Instead what you will get is a shoot-and-scoot "deboonk" that would be dismissed in an academic setting. Even scholars like Bart Ehrman dilute their arguments to sell books even though they would never publish them in a scholsrly journal because they woild be called out by their colleagues.

Read the church fathers please.

Biblical inerrancy is a modern invention, none of the churches that are still in continuity with historical Christianity believe the Bible is free of contradictions. The church fathers weren't stupid and they read the Bible much more deeply than modern people did, and they don't get bogged down in this shit.

Dude, I have a sneaking suspicion that your mom fed you chlorine when you were a baby

>>40700662 (OP)
It's actually supernaturally consistent in its use of symbolism. The KJV helps bring these out through the consistent use of English words to translate the Hebrew-Greek correspondences.

>>40702848
>Make sure to read my pinned X thread (all four posts).
comedy gold
>>40702944
>duh of course it looks like contradictions, but that is only because you haven't learn all of the ancient languages in which the bible was originally written in
>trust me bro if you learn all these languages, study history for years, become an expert in all the cultural contexts of the bible it will finally make sense
> you are just lazy and don't want to put in the work
> no I can't solve these contradictions now.... because...because... something something Bart Ehrman I am out of here

>>40702983
Glad we agree that the bible is full of contradictions and doesn't make sense

>>40702944
>just gotta read the biographies of 20 jewish people and you'll understand the bible bro
nah nigga

>>40703086

>my ad hominem greentext will make them look so le silly that I won't have to address any valid points raised

Do you have professional certification as a retard, or are you just a skilled amateur?

>>40703122
On a scale of end war to medium skilled population, you are low end intellect, sorry but true, but together in a short period of time we'll make you better.

it doesn’t contradict itself. all atheist criticism of the bible is basic misunderstandings of the scriptures.

for example

“Adam and eve repopulated the world but were the only people!!! this is not possiblllleee!!”

truth: nowhere in the bible does god say adam and eve are the only people nor the ones who populated the planet. they were simply the first. and god mentions others. basic deduction skills should lead any person to understand that god made more humans who weren’t named. yet atheists use this to say theres a contradiction


Another “contradiction”

God cant be all loving because he burns you in hell!

1. nowhere is eternal torment mentioned in the bible. god says that eternal life is reserved exclusively fof the believers fir the wages of sin is death an eternal separation from god. sinners will be erased.

2. Define love

Its just this over and over. atheists and all criticism of god and the bible is pure stupidity. i will debate anyone on this. and they will lose

>>40703134
Trust me I am surprised what era we're in. I don't know if there are equals to me out there or potentially the physical, spiritual conditioning as well, thus better than me. I'm pretty sure I'm the max. What we see down here is so primitive I can't register as nothing more than an balancing act creating a rigid tower where max intelligence can be gained. I don't see what it's like in the main dimension but I assume it's much better than down here. at least era 1. What's depicted in fifth element in some way. However, that's still low if era 20 technological advancement is the max and that's just era there's also width and length etc to condition your mind to. Pre-helium and hydrogen update the 'nuke' of techs was a spear that creates a cold hurricane and freezes through objects. Like that thing out of day after tomorrow. I had to live through this attack to find helium. That's where it's found. There is a lot to learn about mind, chemistry and what's most important for general knowledge is the combustion of them all. You likely won't learn general knowledge to the max, you will learn to be max in differentiated fields to maximise your performance in those fields. A soldier who is stupid everywhere else is actually so much better than a soldier who knows all. It's simple what you probably know already, it's not too much of the main track. It takes something really abstract, precise, to really understand general intelligence.

>>40703122
Calling them out on their non-answer which doesn't address the actual contradictions is an unwarranted ad hominem to you?

>>40703190
Take the interlocutor for example, a typical smartphone device that hides behind the hand and arm in the fabric of space.

>>40703153
>1. nowhere is eternal torment mentioned in the bible. god says that eternal life is reserved exclusively fof the believers fir the wages of sin is death an eternal separation from god. sinners will be erased.
So basically the compassionate loving Jesus is saying:"Obey me totally or die"
If that isn't love and compassion I don't know what it is.

If you have a contradiction, then you have a wrong translation or you yourself are interpreting wrong. For example:

Nowhere in the OT or NT does it say to forgive someone that hasn't asked for forgiveness. Instead it says to forgive as God forgives. How does one get forgiveness from God? Well, the Bible tells you. You MUST be sorry for your wrongdoing/sin and you MUST do everything in your power to let this be shown that you are sorry. THEN you BEG for forgiveness. Nowhere does it say to forgive everyone of everything whether they are sorry or not. In fact, you could argue it's a sin to forgive those that sin but do not ask forgiveness; doing so would be judging, something only the Lord can do.

How many 'contradictions' disappear with this interpretation of forgiveness? Re read the Bible.

>>40703318
Matthew 5:44:
"But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you".
Luke 6:27:
"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you".
Luke 6:35:
"But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."

bible there says god is kind to the ungrateful and the evil, but you said they must beg for forgiveness or death.

>>40700662 (OP)
Just wait until you find out how much science contradicts itself

>>40703370
Nowhere in your out of context quotes does it mention forgiveness. Try again.

>>40700680
> in one verse jesus talks about compassion and love and in the next says he is not here to bring peace but to bring a sword
You must be 18+ to post on this board.

>>40704330
Sword could be a metaphor like a "sword of truth"

>>40704308
>Nowhere in your out of context quotes does it mention forgiveness
That was kinda my point.


>>40707320
luke 12

49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.
or in matthew 10 it is specifically said the sword to be the antithesis to peace, and goes into detail describing that.
but supposedly jesus is about love and compession, yeah...

matthew 10
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a]