The moment you've all been waiting for edition

Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.

The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.

Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.

The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)

> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.

> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6

> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms

> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.

Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q

> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM

>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds

—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S

> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf

> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg

>Last Thread
>>40702531

>>40724976
Then choose another method because the theory is everything in UL. UL is about Knowing in the same way others talk about Intent or Belief on other methods.

>>40725402 (OP)
God bless you all and i see you achieving your dreams this week

Thanks for baking.

Let this be a reminder for everyone starting this new thread.

>"Stop trying to change the world since it is only the mirror. Man's attempt to change the world by force is as fruitless as breaking a mirror in the hope of changing his face. Leave the mirror and change your face. Leave the world alone and change your conceptions of yourself."

- Neville Goddard

>>40722689
Failure on the rain thing. The rain did indeed stop in the few minutes it took me to go out, but I tried to summon the rain again after I came back home and nothing came of it. So I can't confirm that the rain stopping it wasn't a coincidence, even though the forecasts in the morning were giving rainy weather for the rest of the day and into the night.
I know I stopped it, but I need to keep trying so I can do this reliably. A guy I knew, who first clued me in on this schizo shit, said manipulating the weather is one of the easiest things you can do, unless there's other people in the area doing it too.

a little example in "be careful what you wish for"
I did some money stuff, and then I'm getting more hours at work. Woops! Path of least resistance, huh?
I know that, and have overcome that before. I just wasn't clear about that this time.
Now I'm putting a more clear manifestation. "I get the money through luck" or perhaps "I got the money effortless through luck". Something like that. I'm
and also being clear about the type of work I'll be getting at my job. because I like my job, it's not exactly my dream job but it's close. But I'm getting more work of the kind I don't like.

But that's the path of least resistance again, isn't it? So I'm being clear that the work I'm getting is what I signed up for and enjoy. Not extra stuff that "has to be done by somebody"

>>40725882
>I know I stopped it, but I need to keep trying so I can do this reliably. A guy I knew, who first clued me in on this schizo shit, said manipulating the weather is one of the easiest things you can do, unless there's other people in the area doing it too.
yes, manipulating weather is actually pretty easy.
Even though it's a "big" thing. I'm not sure why. Maybe because it's entirely within the realm of possibility? It could just randomly shift, right?

I think that's it. It's why you can make big things happen, and sometimes small things are more difficult. If you wish for something "big" but is entirely possible, then it can happen easily.

>>40725941
Very much so, I had a manifestation for wealth back fire on me. Mind you, I am a tier 4 visualizer on the aphantasia scale. I imagined counting large amounts of money. I eventually dreamt of counting large amounts of money on my bed. I thought I was going to win some large amount of money. Instead I ended up getting a job at payday loan place and now I count thousands of dollars a day, but none of it is mine. lol, I now phrase my intentions more carefully and say things like "I get very large deposits into my bank account regularly."

>>40725882
The desire to test it again, to "prove" it wasn't a coincidence, comes from the rational mind. That part of you still lives in the old world of doubt, so when you operate from there, you manifest more doubt, in this case, an unchanging sky.

Your mistake was trying to perform it again like a trick to prove it to your conscious mind. The moment you felt the need for proof, you shifted from the state of "I control the weather" to the state of "I am someone who doubts I can control the weather." The world then reflected that doubt back to you by giving you nothing. Your friend pointed you in a good direction. Weather is malleable because few people have strong beliefs about it. The part about other people is a limitation you don't have to accept. In your reality, your assumption is the only one that has power.

Hold onto the feeling of that first success. You did it. Know that and accept it. The reliability you're looking for will come from that quiet inner knowing, not from endlessly seeking proof in the 3D world.

I am more positive now, i have a feeling that everything will be alright

>>40725941
>Woops! Path of least resistance, huh?
A good observation. But you're slightly misinterpreting it.

The universe didn't just take the path of least resistance. It took the path that perfectly conformed to your deepest, unstated assumptions about money. You manifested more money, and your subconscious, conditioned to believe that money comes from labor, delivered it via the most logical route it knew, more hours.

You weren't just unclear in your desire. Your underlying belief about how money is acquired was the dominant force.

>Now I'm putting a more clear manifestation. "I get the money through luck" or perhaps "I got the money effortless through luck".
This is a good refinement. You're consciously overriding the old belief. This is the work. You are also correct to be specific about the type of work you do. You are pruning the branches of your reality to your liking.

>>40726129
That feeling is the wish fulfilled. Persist in it :)

>>40726143
^^ i see you are like a sort of sage in these threads
would you mind telling me your story/experience with the L.O.A?

>>40726113
>The moment you felt the need for proof, you shifted from the state of "I control the weather" to the state of "I am someone who doubts I can control the weather."
Heh, that's a fair point. I gotta keep improving.

>>40726205
(1/2)
For a long time, my relationships were a perfect mirror of my state at the time, chaotic, temporary, built on a need for validation. I would try to manifest a SP, focusing all my energy on them, which is a mistake. It's a state of obsession and lack, not of having. You're essentially affirming "I don't have this person, and I need them." The universe, in its perfect obedience, just gives you more of the needing.

I realized I was going about it backwards. I wasn't looking for a person; I was trying to fill a hole in my own self-concept. So I dropped the SP. I dropped the checklist of hair color, height, and hobbies. Those are second causes. I asked myself a different question: "Who would I have to be to be in the perfect relationship?"

The answer was: someone who is secure, complete, and doesn't need anyone. Someone for whom a loving, stable partnership is the most natural thing in the world. That became my only work. I stopped looking for someone. I stopped going out hoping to meet them. I spent my time assuming the feeling of being that man. It was a feeling of quiet contentment. A background hum of companionship. The feeling of not being alone, even when I was physically by myself. I'd fall asleep feeling the calm assurance of a long-term, stable love. Not the excitement of a new crush, but the deep, peaceful knowing that the most important part of my life was settled and secure.

>>40726256
(2/2)
The bridge of incidents was subtle. Old relationships and potential interests just... faded. There was no drama. They just lost their appeal because they didn't match the new state. One day, a friend invited me to a small get-together I had no interest in attending. I was about to say no, but I felt that same quiet nudge I felt years before. I went. She was there. There were no fireworks. No dramatic meeting. We just talked. It was the most normal, effortless conversation I'd ever had. It felt less like meeting a stranger and more like remembering a friend.

The relationship that followed was and is a perfect, flawless reflection of the state I had assumed. It's calm, secure, and effortless.

>>40726067
>lol, I now phrase my intentions more carefully and say things like "I get very large deposits into my bank account regularly."
right. I phrase it as "I am a millionaire" which is pretty hard to screw up.
the problem is my subconscious translated this as "more money" or maybe "more money = eventually I'll become a millionaire". and what's the fastest way for me to get more money, to then invest? my job.
Kind of annoying.
I had specially set up affirmations that took that into account. "I become a millionaire because of a lucky break, and get it all at once, in one shot"
that sort of thing
I'm still trying to figure out how to avoid the monkey paw type shit of "I got maimed, and the insurance payout, or from suing was one million dollars"
I can't say "and I don't get maimed". Because you can't use "not". That will just manifest whatever you tried to say "not" to.
So what's the opposite of some bad thing happening? Good luck? I guess?

I could phrase it as, "something good happens to me" or maybe "something happens to me, which is incredible good luck"
Like you have an uncle you never heard of who dies, and leaves you a share of his company worth 1 million dollars or whatever. Which like sucks for him I guess, but it's not like losing an arm in an accident.

anyway, it's something I'll have to work on. How to remove that monkey paw stuff without doing a "not" statement.

>>40726135
chatgpt ass reply can you knock it off

The secret is indeed the feeling but the feeling is not easy to describe nor be present in, especially as we grow older and jaded and accumulate trauma

Hpw to manifest a villa?
I just need my personal space to ponder my orbs

>>40726135
>A good observation. But you're slightly misinterpreting it.
>The universe didn't just take the path of least resistance. It took the path that perfectly conformed to your deepest, unstated assumptions about money. You manifested more money, and your subconscious, conditioned to believe that money comes from labor, delivered it via the most logical route it knew, more hours.
yes, and that is the path of least resistance, because that's what I believe about money, or believe so strongly that I "know" it.
I "know" that I can't just get a million dollars all at once. Why? Because of my life. I grew up poor, and had to work for it. Ups and downs. all that.
So I "know" that money comes from a job. Not a lucky break

I just need to break that programming, and truly live in that moment of "I am a millionaire". Which I did do, which is cool. But now add in "I got a million dollars all at once, from incredible good luck"
I think the "all at once" and "from good luck" might fix the problem.

>>40726129
nice bro

>>40726761
>The secret is indeed the feeling but the feeling is not easy to describe nor be present in, especially as we grow older and jaded and accumulate trauma
you just construct a fantasy where you have the thing you want, and think "Wow, that's great. I have it, and I enjoy it"

The exact same way you'd get a new gf, and then for a week or two after that, you'd pause a couple times each day and go "wow, she's great. She's so pretty. I'm so happy about my new gf". And give this little happy sigh.

That's it.

if you don't write your own story, you'll become a side character in someone else's story

Live in the end. Manifest the flower, not the seed. Imagine the flower, not the seed.
Do not try to figure out how the flower got to you, or how it grew up. Focus on the final state, and the universe will figure out some path for that final state to be delivered to you.

I've seen some pretty wild coincidences line up when I do general manifestations like that. Things I didn't plan for, or imagine. All the little things that needed to happen for my goal to manifest. Suddenly they start happening.

And this proves that whatever is granting your requests is intelligent. A totally random, or totally stupid machine couldn't do it.

And what is the thing that grants your requests? Well it's you isn't it. But I know it wasn't "me" because I can manifest things I didn't specify, things which had to be set up retroactively, or things that make perfect sense in retrospect but I didn't plan or imagine at all.
So if I'm not consciously deciding how the flower will be delivered to me, who is? My subconscious I guess?

It's an interesting mystery. But it's just more proof that you have to live in the end, and the universe will figure out a way to deliver it to you.

And if it doesn't work, trouble shoot it, and figure out a way to deliver it. Don't get mad, or upset, or blame the universe or whatever. Just find a new state that more closely reflects your real target. Zoom in on it, get closer and closer. Then embody THAT state, and manifest it.

>>40727001
Good contribution. Thanks. I need to drill these things into my subconscious, write them in stone..

>>40726229
>2nd link
>When the dream is doubled—for he had a second dream using the same symbolism—whenever the dream is doubled then God has fixed that thing—there’ll be no altering, you can’t change it—and soon it will come to pass, if the dream is doubled.
Interesting
I had the same dream for two days in a row last week - for some reason the 8 am alarm on my phone had a cool little design with an ornate gold border and some other stuff
IIRC Neville mentioned the number 8 being fairly important in one of his books as well

>>40727423
Dreams were integral to accessing my desired career. Full time employed in a high skilled trade after like a decade of unemployment.. This shit so intense.

Woke up in quite a good mood today after continuing to affirm.

>>40727268
a great post, last night i was asking my self about this exactly, thank you
>>40726256
>>40726263
interesting, thanks

>>>40726229
Yea I realized manifestion is much like how you do things in a lucid dream which is what spurred this endeavor. So now I'm trying to get regular lucid dreams to really figure out how this works from a different plane of consciousness where manifestation is instant.

>>40725402 (OP)
Do you guys think one can become fluent in a language without studying it?

I only have positive thoughts of my SP now. This happened last time and we ended up fucking.

Did anyone stop social anxiety with this?

>>40728603
>you need to look into shifting.
>ppl have done what you're looking to do already
Got an example?

>>40729400
You have to change yourself internally to use LoA so is very strong for those mental or personality problems. I got out from real, crippling depression with it.

Is it helpful to undergo ego death? I'm wondering if we can truly manifest our desired reality while having an ego since it creates needs out of insecurity and we could be trying to manifest things our true self doesn't really want or need. For example, let's say my desire to get fit is fuels by insecurity about my looks and how I might be perceived by others. I'm willing to bet that this sort of desire won't manifest because it stems from something unhealthy and foreign. I'm guessing that only a genuine desire to get fit, let's say for aesthetic purposes, because beauty is something genuinely good, can be manifested successfully. Any thoughts on this?

Is there any guide on how to read the Universal Line thing ? It seems very complicated and sometimes memey. Can I start by reading the financial gain first or do I have to read the octopus story?

>>40729816
First, don't worry about ego death as a requirement. Thinking you need to achieve it first is just another belief that can hold you back. The point isn't to destroy the ego, but to become aware of its patterns so they don't run your life automatically.

You can absolutely manifest things from a place of insecurity. The Law is completely impartial. It doesn't judge if a desire is healthy or not. It just delivers what you persistently feel and believe to be true. A desire born from deep insecurity often carries a lot of emotional power, so it can manifest quite strongly. You can definitely get a fit body because you feel insecure.

So, your thoughts are on the right track. A more effective approach is to focus on changing the feeling itself. Instead of manifesting the body to fix the insecurity, just assume the feeling of being someone who is confident, attractive, and at peace with yourself, regardless of your current appearance.

Just realised I did SATS of me holding my SPs hand walking from her apartment to the street and it happened on the Monday we fucked. So did her laying on my chest asleep. Wow.

>>40730489
Anon, were you and your SP distanced for a long time or it is just something that happened? I am new to manifestation (consciously).

>>40730505
Bad break 2 months ago now, she randomly goes between hating me and loving me.

>visualize a petite redhead in my life
>go out to a concert with friends
>notice a particular ginger girl in the crowd
>its literally a porn star i jerked to a few days prior
>talk to her and make her laugh a bit
> nothing else happens

the odds of this happening should be almost impossible, this shit is literally real, and its important to visualize and end result not just running into them or talking to them.

>>40730558
Are you sure you want to manifest that type of relationship into your life man. It sounds awful. Don't waste your energy on something that can destroy your life and traumatize you.

>>40730390

Read Financial gain Part 1 PDF but only until he stops proving one-thing. The most important thing is knowing why any 2 things need a reference field, why you are that, and why does that state contain everything you want. everything else is full. That's around 10-15 pages, after that intend every 30s for a total of 5 or 10 minutes as per financial gain part 2 which can be summed as be aware you are UL, intend for it to happen then do nothing.

>>40730568

everything else is fluff*

>>40730566
Unfortunately the heart wants what the heart wants. In no contact at moment I told her to never speak to me again but I'm still affirming and visualising us cuddling on a sofa. I've manifested her back 2 times now but I always fail at retaining.

>>40727331
>Good contribution. Thanks. I need to drill these things into my subconscious, write them in stone..
thanks, and good luck

>>40730591
Yeah I get it, my love life has been messed up since I was a teen. But lately I have been studying Jung, manifestation and embarking on spiritual practices. All these things are unraveling and showing me what I needed to know about myself. You are right in that the heart wants what it wants, but why? Why are you pursuing somebody who gives you ambivalent love? That is sick dude. Sorry to tell you but that is going to cost you on the long run. That is not love dude, not one bit. I embarked on many toxic relationships but it was because I didn't know about the anima. You are projecting that dude. That is manifestation in itself.

>>40728697
>a great post, last night i was asking my self about this exactly, thank you
thanks

>>40730612
I know. I want what is terrible for me because when we are together it feels like heaven but when apart she's the devil incarnate. I don't know what to do because I keep bringing her back somehow but she never stays.

>>40730632
She sounds narcissistic. Or BPD IDK. You should manifest blocking her from everything and moving on with your life dude. This is coming from somebody older. This ambivalent experience is hurting you subconsciosly. It will damage your capacity to pair bond and you will hurt other people trying to love you. I speak from experience. It will be hard at first but just realize that there surely are other dudes with her right now. These people act like this naturally.

>>40729259
>I only have positive thoughts of my SP now. This happened last time and we ended up fucking.
honestly, it's a good point
if you start getting mad at your SP, that will manifest. Or upset, or angry that she won't reciprocate, or whatever
If you just have positivity, then that won't manifest new problems. And the problems that exist will stop being magnified
I'm not sure if you can make the problems go away. That's the real level of SP techniques, changing them to be whatever you want. I'm not sure if that's possible. Maybe it is.

I think when people appear in your life, they become stabilized. You can make anyone appear, according to any desire. but once they appear, they are stabilized. And you can ADD things to them. A new dimension, a new angle. A side of them you've never seen before. But you can't fundamentally change who they are.
A really shitty person, an absolute jerk, will stay that way. But you can manifest that they "have a good side" and "can be surprisingly good to people, if it benefits them" or something else.

I still think GP is better than SP, always.

But that's a good point. If you focus entirely on the positive with your SP (that already exists), then it will go better. That is true.

>>40730658
I know there probably are, issue is she's only shown this since the split she was perfect beforehand. I'm manifesting obsession because I want her to feel the pain she caused me.

>>40730670
That's on you bud. You should let her go including the resentment.

>>40730680
I can't. I have an obsessive personality. Ultimately, I want her to obsessively want me (and she will) and me to turn her down.

>>40729816
As far as ego death goes, I think that's not really necessary. Having an ego death experience can bring enlightenment, but I don't really think it's a place you should stay. If you don't have an ego, you're in a coma. If you don't care about yourself at all, you'll stop eating and die. This is nonsense. So I think the whole "ego = the devil" thing that was popular in the original new age 70s type thing, was honestly unhealthy. They took it too far, imo. A little ego death is good, but totally killing the ego, hating the ego, treating it as evil, is sort of dumb.

And of course, if you have no ego, no desires, then why manifest anything? Manifesting is ultimately about getting things and having things. You get what you want. That's the whole point. So ego death is sort of contrary.

>I'm guessing that only a genuine desire to get fit, let's say for aesthetic purposes, because beauty is something genuinely good, can be manifested successfully. Any thoughts on this?
you can definitely manifest something like fitness or looking good, based on "impure" desires. People do that all the time.

However, I think you raise a good point. It is BETTER to manifest based on positivity. Not from an insecure need. Because that won't really fuel you. You don't really want the thing, you want the thing it's going to give you (being fit means I get more attention, more love). And you'll be focusing on this thing you don't really care about, to get this thing you don't yet have. So it'll be negative. "I need to workout, so I can look good, so I can get attention/love". It will be coming from a place of lack.
And if you DO achieve your goals, and get fit, and get the attention, then you'll stop working out. Why would you keep going? You got what you wanted. And fitness was just a means to an end. So you'll gain weight, get fat, lose muscle, feel weak, then lose the attention/love and feel bad again. That's a bad way to do it.

and it's based in negativity.

>>40730489
>Just realised I did SATS of me holding my SPs hand walking from her apartment to the street and it happened on the Monday we fucked. So did her laying on my chest asleep. Wow.
congrats bro

>>40730563
>the odds of this happening should be almost impossible, this shit is literally real
yep
>and its important to visualize and end result not just running into them or talking to them.
Yes, exactly. Don't just visualize a hot girl. Then what will happen is you'll see a hot girl.

visualize having sex with her, or she's sleeping next to you or something.

how do I become a hentai girl, its boring being a guy.

>>40730668
Why do you persist in this limiting belief of stabilization?

>>40730841
>Why do you persist in this limiting belief of stabilization?
because that's what everyone experiences. I know it's limiting. You telling me that is condescending and annoying. It's not helpful

"just stop believing limiting beliefs bro"

Yeah, I know that.

Do you know of anyone who can alter SPs who already exist, to make them become whatever they want, just as easily as making a new GP appear?

This is why I think GP is better than SP. It's always easier to just make a new person appear with the things you want (which the 1st person doesn't have) and without the things you don't want (which the 1st person does have), than to change the SP.

If you can show me any evidence that this belief is mistaken, I'll believe. but I think this is unfortunately how reality works. And there is no one in this thread who has experience that shows otherwise.

If you can make SPs change totally, to turn them into whatever you want, then I'll listen to you.

But I think we all know that's not true. People who already exist are hard to change. They are "stable" for some strange reason.

There are limits to manifesting. Is this caused by limiting beliefs? Or is it just the way things are, and trying to change them or "stop believing in the limiting beliefs bro" won't make them go away.

In other words, the whole idea that you can just do whatever you want and make anything happen, and there are no limits is simply not true. It's just an idea someone came up with. But no one can manifest gold bars out of thin air, right in the palm of their hand, can they? If so, I will listen to them, and copy whatever they are doing.

Same with shooting laser beams out your eyes and flying around without an air plane. If there's anyone who can do that, I'll listen to them. But we both know that doesn't happen.

>>40730790
>visualize having sex with her

i should clarify that i was masturbating to a pov video scene, imagining i was the one fucking her. then at the point of climax doing my best to imagine that i was really fucking her

i did this hoping to manifest a gp that looks somewhat like her, but i never expected it to literally be her. however nothing came of it ultimately so im wondering why id get so close but couldn't seal the deal, perhaps there's some unconscious blockages i still have that im not aware of

still its insane even getting as far as i did

>>40730897
>because that's what everyone experiences.
>People who already exist are hard to change.
>In other words, the whole idea that you can just do whatever you want and make anything happen, and there are no limits is simply not true.
>If there's anyone who can do that, I'll listen to them. But we both know that doesn't happen.

Your conclusion is your command. You're not going to get anywhere while searching the 3d for proof. It's an illusion. One that's effortless to change, unless you believe in its solidity.

>>40730813
please answer me, this pleasure is mine

>>40725945
Its a chaotic system, and chaotic systems are more prone to change through small variable change. And smaller changes are easily manifestable

Molly made me understand manifestation, solo rolling
Had some psytrance on and started dancing. While dancing, a heavy feeling in my stomach lifted (that I often have), and I felt my consciousness itself getting up to dance. This was freeing: It felt like my consciousness sitting down doing nothing was it being stuck in its old reality. It sitting down on a spot (giving it attention) makes the state of that "spot" come into reality. But when it gets up to dance, it can sit down again somewhere else, in a nicer spot, corresponding to my desired reality.

Now it feels like I "got" it. Now the results are pending, though they have to come, as I am the results. Manifestation = timeline shifting. Each version of you is bound to a certain timeline. So as you change, your timeline changes. If you become someone who possesses 6mil, the timeline you are in has no choice but to grant you 6mil

>>40730949
>Your conclusion is your command.
No, just stop. Stop it with the "well because that's what you believe"
Can you show me anyone reprogramming SPs to be anything they want, easier than just making a new GP?

And in any case, how does this contradict "everything is your belief" anyway? You see an SP, you see her behavior. What she looks like. How she thinks.
And this remains stable.
You can change it, sure. Can you make her look totally different? Can you change her entire personality? Well you believe she is that way. So she stays that way. Why doesn't this just come down to belief, anyway? How is this contradicting you?

The only thing I'm saying, is that if you have a horrible person, who hates you, and is ugly, why would you ever spend time trying to "shift" that SP into something better?
It would be a far better use of your time to just manifest a new GP, who is a better person, likes you more, and is better looking. That's it. That's all I'm saying.

And you know I'm right. Stop it with the pseudo philosophical bull shit. You know I'm right. Now, if you could show any evidence to the contrary. Or show me anyone who can do it differently, I'll listen to them.

And I think a lot of people would. People get attached to SPs. They don't want a new person, they don't want to go for GP. They want to "fix" the SP they already like. Make her like them more. Make her nicer or more pleasant or whatever. Make her stop doing things which are annoying. And why not make her prettier too?
Everyone wants that. and yet, everyone knows that making a new GP is far easier than trying to change an SP to become the person you would have just manifested anyway.

>>40730949
>One that's effortless to change, unless you believe in its solidity.
and this is just bull shit. "Just believe harder bro"

Okay, so where are the people who can manifest a gold bar appearing right in their hand, out of thin air?
Where are the people shooting laser beams out of their eyes, flying, going invisible, or other super powers? Where is that?

There seems to be some things which are easier to shift than others. Why is that? It is a very interesting question, and I think investigating that is very useful. It teaches you how manifesting works. The real inner workings of it. How to change reality. how you change your beliefs.

Or you could oversimplify and go "well you don't need any of that complicated stuff. you can just believe whatever you want, and it happens. Just believe harder bro."

It's clearly not that simple. There is more at play here than "just believe harder bro" or "how come it didn't work? well because you need believe hard enough. or you must have had some limiting beliefs. Just get rid of it. Easy at that."

manifesting being an attractive person and women start giving me "the looks"

My hate speech doesn't land me in prison, it empowers me
I have a harem of daughters and wives of dead liberal politicians and foreigners
I am greater than Hitler

>>40731429
>Its a chaotic system, and chaotic systems are more prone to change through small variable change.
yeah, manifesting is really easy when there is RNG involved. Or chaos as you put it. If there is something that's possible/probably, then manifesting can easily make it happen.
But for whatever reason, "bigger" things are more difficult.

But it's not bigger, in terms of physical size.

A whole weather system is huge. Even if I gave you a fan, you couldn't make clouds move with physical effort. And all the clouds in your area? Making them move with the power of your mind? Ridiculous.

And I can manifest a traffic jam. I can manifest an accident (unfortunately). I can make objects weighing thousands of pounds do what I want. I can make a tree fall down in a windstorm, to block a road.

But I can manifest a single pound of gold? What's up with that?

It's like "big things are harder to manifest". I think we all sort of get that, and agree. But it's not "big" like size, it's big like "hard to get", "rare", "highly valuable".
Shit like that.

It's things which are unlikely. It's like manifesting is probability manipulation. Or luck manipulation or something.

The whole weather thing really blows that shit out of the water. It illuminates where the real limits are. Making the weather change is supposed to be some god like power. And yet it's pretty easy. Other things, which seem very much so within the "power of a god" are difficult. They seem "smaller"

But if you have a hard time with some girl who doesn't like you. What's more likely, that she will suddenly love you, or that it will suddenly rain? It rains all the time. That's super common. But the other event is "less likely".

I think that's what it is.

Ffs SPs mum just randomly messaged me again and what she said makes no sense she didn't need to say it

>>40731701
Hits me up randomly don't even speak to her going
>have you spoke to sp be honest
No
>good cos she needs to self care and realise it won't work between ya won't speak again

>>40731624
>how does this contradict "everything is your belief" anyway? You see an SP, you see her behavior. What she looks like. How she thinks.
So you agree. Good. What you're describing is the classic proof loop.
>>40731646
You're just proving that it all boils down to belief. You're belief is "I don't see people doing these things, so they can't be done." Reality will perfectly reflect this belief, like it does with all your other beliefs, and you get "stuck" in the proof loop.

>>40731685
>It's like manifesting is probability manipulation. Or luck manipulation or something.
Or, it just boils down to belief.

>>40731684
Your hate speech shows people how dumb you are.
You have a harem of debts and misery for voting for corrupt pedophiles.
You fall for it again.
I are smaller than motheranon.

I also want to become hentai girl

Does it ever happen to you guys, that you -for a little while- muse about manfiesting a BIG change, but don't do it yet--and then at random times troughout the week, say "damn, IF i had manifested X, then I wouldn't be here but doing X right now--in real life, no escape"
no really monkey's paw...Im talking about natural consequences of actions and decisions.

>>40732094
>You're just proving that it all boils down to belief. You're belief is "I don't see people doing these things, so they can't be done." Reality will perfectly reflect this belief, like it does with all your other beliefs, and you get "stuck" in the proof loop.
No.

Other people do not describe being able to easily change SPs to be whatever they like. And everyone knows it's easier to just manifest a new GP who is more what you want.

You know I'm right.

>The only thing I'm saying, is that if you have a horrible person, who hates you, and is ugly, why would you ever spend time trying to "shift" that SP into something better?
>It would be a far better use of your time to just manifest a new GP, who is a better person, likes you more, and is better looking. That's it. That's all I'm saying.

This isn't "because that's what you believe". Not everything is up for grabs. Where did you get that idea from? Is there any proof for that? Is there any particular reason you have to believe that? How does it work out for you?
the "just believe harder bro" group is fucking retarded.

According to you, if I just believe hard enough, I can make gold bars appear my in hand, while looking at it, out of thin air.
Shoot laser beams out of my eyes. Fly around in the sky.

Okay great. Show me. You can't, and you won't, and you know you're full of shit. I'm sorry dude.

There is more to this thing than just "reality is whatever you believe. just believe harder bro". And I'm sick of this pseudo philosophical bull shit, and pretending to be this wise ascended master. It doesn't help. It just makes you stuck. It means you're missing how it really works and staying stuck in "just believe harder bro" mode. It's nonsense.

You can't do the things you claim are possible! That means you're a fraud, pretending to be more than you really are. Again, if you can find someone who can do the things you claim are so easy and possible, I will listen to them. And yet, no one can do that.

>>40732094
>You're just proving that it all boils down to belief. You're belief is "I don't see people doing these things, so they can't be done." Reality will perfectly reflect this belief, like it does with all your other beliefs, and you get "stuck" in the proof loop.
And no, this is total bull shit

I have been proven wrong many times. Things I believe were true, other people proved me wrong. Did things I thought were impossible. Things I never imagined or thought might happen.

Other people have shown me things I didn't believe, MANY times.

So, no, it's not true that other people will just do whatever I believe. And that because I can't find anyone who can modify SPs to be whatever they want, easier than just making a new GP, that it's just because I personally don't believe it.

I'm very open to the idea. I have no problem with SPs being modifiable. I have done it myself many times.

However, based on my experience, and the experience of many other people, I have found that people who already exist are "Stable" to some degree and difficult to change.

And it's easier to just manifest a whole new person with all the things you wanted to change, as opposed to trying to change a person who already exists.

That's why I say GP is always better than SP.

Now, again, if you could stop being a pseudo philosophical condescending fuckwit and climb down from your ivory tower for 1 second, and actually meet me in the middle, and show me anyone who can do those things, I'll believe them. I have no problem with that. I want to know those techniques! that would be useful to me.

This is the problem with "anything can be achieved, just believe harder bro." No, it can't. No, you can't manifest a gold bar right in your hand out of thin air. So shut the fuck up, and stop being such a fraud.

>>40732102
>>It's like manifesting is probability manipulation. Or luck manipulation or something.
>Or, it just boils down to belief.
Please stop. You're over simplifying things, and your supposed system which is "just believe harder bro" has problems and doesn't give you the results you want.

It doesn't work for anyone. Everyone runs into things they can't manifest. Or things which are easy and things which are hard.

And when they come in this thread and try to figure out why, some idiot just comes in and says "just believe harder bro"

It's so pedantic and unhelpful. And it doesn't work for you either. It's like a weird religion or some shit.

I am interested in what works. I want to know how manifesting works. And "it all boils down to belief" just doesn't work. There are problems with that line of thinking, and certain things you won't be able to solve because you only have one explanation for whatever problem might arise "It must have been because I wasn't believing hard enough!"

There isn't one variable. You're over simplifying. Massively.

>it's all just belief bro. It all just boils down to belief
>just believe harder bro

How is this helpful? It's not true, and he knows it. Does it feel good to be so wise and enlightened, that you know how it all works? "It's just so simple. Just believe harder bro." "How come that didn't work? Well you must have limiting beliefs bro. Just stop believing those limits, and they go away bro. It's easy"

It's false enlightenment. And it's fraud. This guy can't do what he claims is possible. He says anything is possible if you just believe. We all know that's not true. There's more to it than that.

Nah, man. I'm going to stick with what actually works, and figure out how manifesting works so I can exploit the edge cases and manifest bigger and better things. And you can sit there, stuck, unable to manifest the things you want and unable to make progress because you've oversimplified it to just one variable, belief.

This is the problem with the just believe harder crowd. They have no method for making progress.

If there is something I cannot manifest now, how do I get there? How do I manifest bigger things? How about the stuff I really want, but can't get? How do I get from point A to point B? How do I make progress? How do I improve?
Those are very important questions. And they don't have simple answers. If it was so easy, then anyone would quickly make progress and just become a god.

>Just believe you already have improved. Just believe you are already a manifesting master, and have godlike powers, and can do whatever you want. Manifest anything you imagine.
>just believe harder bro

It's so annoying to hear that shit.

Just fucking affirm till you get what you want.

>>40732471
Yeah nah too many telepaths fucking with the conduits.
Just fucking do the thing you want to do. I don't recommend raping women to get sex but ultimately the choice is yours

>>40732386
>According to you, if I just believe hard enough, I can make gold bars appear my in hand, while looking at it, out of thin air. Shoot laser beams out of my eyes. Fly around in the sky.
Yes you can.

>>40732403
>I'm very open to the idea.
You're closed off to the idea, and it shows through your beliefs.

>>40732424
>It doesn't work for anyone. Everyone runs into things they can't manifest. Or things which are easy and things which are hard.
Here's another belief that's keeping you from manifesting those "impossible" things.

>>40732451
>There's more to it than that.
Talk about complexity addiction. It really is that simple.
>They have no method for making progress.
You don't need progress. You can get anything and anywhere in an instant.
>If there is something I cannot manifest now, how do I get there? How do I manifest bigger things? How about the stuff I really want, but can't get? How do I get from point A to point B? How do I make progress? How do I improve?
You have it all already. Just believe.
>If it was so easy, then anyone would quickly make progress and just become a god.
Everyone is a god. It's their belief in their limited nature that keeps their true nature "hidden" from their perception.

>laughs at block-stumblers

>>40732639
>>According to you, if I just believe hard enough, I can make gold bars appear my in hand, while looking at it, out of thin air. Shoot laser beams out of my eyes. Fly around in the sky.
>Yes you can.
Okay, then please show me
Even tell me you've actually done this. I don't even need video evidence or anything.

Can you find anyone who is even claiming they have done this? If so, I'll listen to them.

>You're closed off to the idea, and it shows through your beliefs.
No, but now I'm getting mad, and getting further entrenched in what I'm saying because you're annoying me.

If there is anyone who has actually reprogrammed an SP to do whatever they want, and shown it's easier to change an SP compared to just making a new person with a GP, then I'll hear it.

>Here's another belief that's keeping you from manifesting those "impossible" things.
No, you're being a fuckwit and a fraud.
Let me make it personal. There are things that YOU cannot manifest. Things you have tried and failed to do. Things you cannot currently do. How are you going to overcome that? How do you make progress?
I'd really like to hear it. As opposed to more pseudo intellectual garbage.

>Talk about complexity addiction. It really is that simple.
No, it's not an addiction. It's a recognition of fact

>You don't need progress. You can get anything and anywhere in an instant.
Okay, so you're just retarded then. You're not a serious thinker, and you can't manifest shit. That was what I thought.

Where's your gold bars, man? According to you, it's so easy, and you can just manifest anything you want. Okay great.
So what have you manifested then? I assume it's very impressive stuff, since you claim it's so easy and you've got it all figured out. Go ahead.

>You have it all already. Just believe.
Yeah that doesn't work. Sorry bud. And it doesn't work for you, either, so that makes you a fraud.

>>40732639
>>If it was so easy, then anyone would quickly make progress and just become a god.
>Everyone is a god. It's their belief in their limited nature that keeps their true nature "hidden" from their perception.
No. That is total nonsense. Not everyone is a god, remaking reality according to their whim, making anything happen that they want.
If that was true, then we would see it. People would try out manifesting for a week, and then have everything they want. It would be so easy and simple, as you claim, and people could just manifest gold bars out of thin air right in their hand, fly around, shoot laser beams out of their eyes, etc

They don't, and you know it. Stop being an idiot

I'm glad that this guy has just shown himself to be an idiot
He really is in the camp of "you can do whatever you want, do anything, get anything"

But it's a lie. He knows it's not true. It's not true for him. He knows that's not how it works for him.

There are things he cannot manifest currently. Things he has tried and failed to get. It didn't work. And what's his answer for this?
>well that's just what you believe bro

No, it's not "just" what I believe. It's a fucking fact! Stop pretending you can do whatever you want and get whatever you want. And anything you've ever tried to manifest has worked. That every single thing you've tried to manifest has happened.

You're a fucking fraud dude. Shut the fuck up, and stop lying. Get real!

You probably haven't even manifested anything all that impressive, or overcome blocks and resistance to manifest bigger and better things.

Why should I take advice from someone who has shit results? This guy pretends he can do anything, but he can't. It's just sad.

And I'm tired of the fucking condescending know it all routine. "That's just what you believe bro". No, you idiot, it's a fact. And you know I'm right.

and again, once again, if anyone can SHOW me a better way, or even just claim they can (not even prove it!), I'll listen to them.

>>40732819
>and again, once again, if anyone can SHOW me a better way, or even just claim they can (not even prove it!), I'll listen to them.
I'm going post this as its own thing so it doesn't get lost.

1: Has anyone manifested a gold bar just appearing right in their hand, out of thin air? If so, I will listen to you.
You don't even need to "prove" it. Is there anyone who is even claiming to be able to do this?

2: Is there anyone who can alter an SP at will, to make them become whatever you want, such that just making a new person with a GP would not be easier? don't even need to prove it. I'll just believe your story. Has anyone done this? What did you do?
Because if you can get everything you want out of your SP, and any time there's a problem, you just manifest it away, then I will listen to you.
And so will everyone else. so they don't need to give up on the SP they want, in order to find someone new with a GP.

But I think we all know that's not how it works. You can't manifest items out of thin air. And GP > SP.

I think it's time people move on from the "just believe harder bro" thing. and "you can get anything you want, it's all based on what you believe". No, I'm sorry. That's not how it works.

>>40732786
>Even tell me you've actually done this. I don't even need video evidence or anything.
I have had instant manifestations. Namely, cash.
>If there is anyone who has actually reprogrammed an SP to do whatever they want . . .
I've reprogrammed people all the time. It comes down to, you guessed it, belief. What do you believe someone is like?
>Things you cannot currently do.
No, actually, there aren't. And even if there were, belief is the cure.
>How are you going to overcome that? How do you make progress?
See above.
>It's a recognition of fact
There's a belief

>>40732793
>If that was true, then we would see it.
There's that belief in the 3d that keeping you "stuck."

>>40732819
>That every single thing you've tried to manifest has happened.
Everything I've ever believed would happen did happen. Once I figured that out, manifesting became easy.

>>40732867
>I have had instant manifestations. Namely, cash.
No, I didn't ask about that. I have had instant manifestations too.
I am asking if you have manifested a gold bar appearing in your hand, out of thin air.

>I've reprogrammed people all the time. It comes down to, you guessed it, belief. What do you believe someone is like?
So have I!
The point is, whether or not it's easier to program an SP, or to just new a person with GP?
Is it easier for you to get a GP? I'm pretty sure it is.

>No, actually, there aren't. And even if there were, belief is the cure.
Excuse me? Really? You have been able to do every single manifest you've ever tried? It's always worked? Every single time? Really?

Okay you are full of shit

>Everything I've ever believed would happen did happen. Once I figured that out, manifesting became easy.
Ah, so that's your cop out. If it didn't work, you just gaslight yourself into thinking "I must have not believed hard enough"

Okay, so you're just totally full of shit then. I understand. You have a belief about manifesting that doesn't actually work in reality, and every time it doesn't work, you just make up some nonsense about "I didn't believe hard enough"

Okay. I'm glad to confirm that you are full of shit. I knew that from the start, and that's true of every "just believe harder bro" guy, or the dumbasses who reply with "well that's just your belief bro"

Like, it's just stupid. I'm sorry, but no.

You currently cannot manifest items out of thin air, right in the palm of your hand. Stop larping, stop being such a fraud.

Or tell me you can. Please do so. Just do that. Make a gold bar appear in your hand, out of thin air, and then tell me you did it. you don't even need to prove anything. I'll listen to you, if you even just claim that you have done that.

>You can manifest anything. Just believe harder bro
>Really, anything. anything you believe in

How about making a gold bar appear in your hand, out of thin air? How about that? One moment there's nothing, the next, POOF, a gold bar. Right there.

>Well I have manifested cash instantly....

No, I'm talking about manifesting an item out of thin air. Not instant manifestations. I can do that too. I mean you straight up make something appear, out of nothing, right into the palm of your hand. Like magic.

That counts as "anything" right? You can "believe" in that right? Seems like it should be something you can do, according to what you say.
So go ahead and do that. And then come back to the class, and explain how you did it. I'll listen. No problem

>>40732992
>>40733013
>No, I'm talking about manifesting an item out of thin air.
I did that. The cash was out of thin air.
>explain how you did it.
Belief.

This is the problem with the "you can do anything" guys

They are full of shit. They exaggerate their successes, and minimize their defeats. I mean this guy has even coped with "well any time it didn't work, it's just cuz I didn't believe hard enough. But really I can do anything!"

And when you point out a very clear and obvious test, like making a gold bar appear out of thin air into your hand, they... wibble and wobble and sort of talk in circles, change the subject, and can't answer that direct question. Because they are full of shit.

And really, it could be anything. doesn't need to be a gold bar. That would just be useful.

We all know you can't make objects appear out of thin air. There needs to be some kind of "coincidence" which delivers it to you. Off screen. "around the corner". Or you look away, and then it's there.

It's the same thing as "forget about it, and then it happens" kind of shit. I think it's related

But the "just believe harder bro" guys have no nuance. There's just one variable to them. They have no curiosity. When things don't work, they don't ask why, they keep just going along.

If what you are doing isn't working, you need to change your system. These guys just... don't. Their shit doesn't work, and they are frauds. It's just that simple. And I'm tired of it

I'm also tired of their condescending attitude. It's annoying.

>>40733032
>I did that. The cash was out of thin air.
Really? I appeared out of thin air
Meaning it wasn't "around the corner". It wasn't that someone opened their wallet and gave it to you. It wasn't under a leaf on the sidewalk.

You were looking directly at the spot where it appeared, and one moment there was nothing, and the next moment it popped into existence.

Like magic.

Are you still gaslighting yourself, or are you being for real right now? Because if you are being for real, I will listen to you.

>>40733035
>I mean this guy has even coped with "well any time it didn't work, it's just cuz I didn't believe hard enough. But really I can do anything!"
Because that's how it works.
>We all know you can't make objects appear out of thin air. There needs to be some kind of "coincidence" which delivers it to you. Off screen. "around the corner". Or you look away, and then it's there.
Or you could drop that limiting belief.
>have no nuance.
? It boils down to belief. That's it.
>I'm also tired of their condescending attitude. It's annoying.
Go manifest a new diaper around the corner.

>>40733041
Yes. It materialized "like magic."
And once again, we see one of your limiting beliefs. There is no "thin air." Every point of reality hold contains the every possible reality.

>>40733035
>making a gold bar appear in your hands
Best I can do is sand flakes of 50/50 Au/Fool's Gold off the soles of my feet, but ya gotta bite quite a few hollow points before dancing on hot coals to make it work.
>>40733041
>it wasn't under a leaf on the sidewalk
Once found a $20 in the grass outside of a library in the thick of a game afoot. *shrugs*
>and the next moment it popped into existence
>like magic
I know a lady cat that can sew pockets inside of your pockets and pull anything lighter than ~2 grams from your pants to her skirt, some birds that can empty a whole vending machine banknote cache of blood money, and a jack of all trades that can throw something into an oven that then pops out in the pool.

Once you watch your first tealight candle appear in a flip box, it changes everything. At least it did for my own self, and I don't even exist.

Gentlemen, what does it mean when my affirmations are my only thoughts on a subject? I seek knowledge.

>allegedly proof looped retard trying to become the thread diva with stupid "that's imposibru, I got you" antics while he poisons the well with self help book flavor of LoA.
>people still engaging with him trying to prove him wrong ignoring he vill walk the planet several times just to move the goalpost.
nice thread loababies

>>40733101
>Yes. It materialized "like magic."
>And once again, we see one of your limiting beliefs. There is no "thin air." Every point of reality hold contains the every possible reality.
honestly, I have to say I don't believe you. Because you've been so cagey and speaking in riddles.

Are you say you can make an item materialize out of thin air. Like it it just pops into existence. Not that someone gave it to you. Or that it was "around the corner" and then you found it.

Like the spot it appeared into was totally empty. You were looking at it right there. And as you were looking at it, it just popped into existence?

I'm not saying looked away, and looked back.

>>40733204
>>allegedly proof looped retard trying to become the thread diva with stupid "that's imposibru, I got you" antics while he poisons the well with self help book flavor of LoA.
No, I'm not "prooflooped" whatever the fuck that means.

This guy is saying he can manifest items out of thin. Something which no one else claims, everyone else says can't be done. Even the most exuberant people say "yeah man, it can't be done"

But he's been real fucking cagey and gaslights himself, so I'm guessing he's full of shit

I mean he even said "every one of my manifests has come true". So I know he's full of shit.

He back pedaled and coped, saying "well, everything I BELIEVED came true". So he gaslighted himself every time one of his manifests didn't work, and just said "well I guess I wasn't believing hard enough".

And I'm pretty sure this new claim is also bullshit. He started off with "I manifested cash instantly". Which wasn't the question I asked. Then he said "yeah out of thin air man"... and I'm guessing there's more to the story. But he's being all pithy zen koan type shit. And that just makes me think he's full of shit.

>>people still engaging with him trying to prove him wrong ignoring he vill walk the planet several times just to move the goalpost.
Excuse me? When the FUCK have I ever moved the goalpost? I have been extremely clear and extremely consistent. I have repeated my main 2 points several times, and never changed my points, and just kept pushing them over and over.
The other guy has been changing the topic, answering questions I didn't ask, and has a real hard time sticking to exact topic and giving half answers or vague non answers.
"Oh I can manifest cash instantly"
Me too fuckface. I'm not talking about instant manifests. I'm talking about manifesting items appearing out of thin air
"Oh I can program SPs to change them"
Yeah me too fuckface. I'm talking about if it's easier to change an SP, or to just manifest a new GP.

Oh, and another thing

The guy is still full of shit. He won't admit he's ever failed a manifest.

He said straight up, that he's manifested every single thing he's ever tried to get. Never failed. Never ran into resistance. Just got every single thing he ever tried to get.

Yeah I don't think so.

Then he went off on "Well, I got everything I ever believed in". So he's gaslighting himself. And I'm pretty fucking sure the "I manifested cash and it appeared out of thin air" will turn into "okay, so I said it happened instantly, and it appeared out of thin air, like magic. But uh actually some dude opened up his wallet and handed me 20 bucks. I actually can't manifest gold bars out of nothing"

And in any case, that's what I'm really interested in. Or maybe he could manifest shooting laser beams out of his eyes, or flying around. Or whatever else.

Make gold bars appear out of thin air. Just appear right into your hand, as you are looking at it. Not "around the corner" or "someone gave it to me". Making items materialize like they teleported from another dimension.

He says he can do that, and he's never failed a single manifest. He can do anything, and he's always succeeded to manifest anything he's wanted. So making a gold bar appear out of thin air should be easy for a "god" like him.

We all know what's gonna happen. He's full of shit.

>>40733748
>Make gold bars appear out of thin air. Just appear right into your hand, as you are looking at it. Not "around the corner" or "someone gave it to me". Making items materialize like they teleported from another dimension.
and btw, this isn't "moving the goalposts"

Anyone can manifest physical items, by looking away. Or around the corner. Or you manifest an item being at a shop, and then you go there and it's there. Or someone gives it to you.

I am specifically claiming you cannot make items (or people, or anything else) appear out of thin air. You have to break line of sight. Look away, walk around the corner, whatever.

I am specifically claiming this is a limit to manifesting, and this guy is claiming you can in fact make gold bars appear out of thin air, and just drop right into your hand. He's also claiming he has never failed any manifest. He straight up said that. Other than the ones he "didn't believe in". That seems to be the big caveat here.

I think both those claims are bull shit. No, he cannot make a gold bar appear out of nothing, and no it's not true that he's never failed a manifest.

He has failed to manifest things. There are things he wants right now, and cannot get, because they won't manifest. Just like everyone else. Everyone has experienced a failed manifest. Everyone has things they want right now, but can't seem to get to work. It's ridiculous to me that he won't admit that.

And his "system" has absolutely nothing in it for "how can I manifest things, that I cannot manifest now? How can I improve?" I think he answered that question with "just believe harder bro".

>>40732992
>you don't even need to prove anything. I'll listen to you, if you even just claim that you have done that.
>>40733677
>honestly, I have to say I don't believe you.
>>40733719
>When the FUCK have I ever moved the goalpost?
See the above posts.

>>40733775
>I think he answered that question with "just believe harder bro".
Actually, it's just believe bro, and you are proof looped.

>>40733986
>>When the FUCK have I ever moved the goalpost?
>See the above posts.
No, that's not moving the goalposts. I'm just asking the same question again.
That's noticing he's cagey as fuck, and has multiple times gone all "zen koan speaking in riddles" shit like a reclusive guru.

I just wanted to clarify

did this guy manifest an item out of thin. While watching. None of this look away, and then look back bull shit. That's the point.

Was he watching an empty spot, which was empty one moment, and then the next moment an item appeared in that spot out of thin air, like magic.

If this is actually you responding, then yeah you're kinda proving my point. you won't answer the question, because you know you're full of shit. I'm not moving the goal posts, I'm just asking the same question again to make sure you really actually did do that.

Did you? did you actually manifest an object, materializing out of thin air, teleporting into existence, like magic? Yes or no?

>>40733993
>Actually, it's just believe bro
Just believe harder, or just believe, what difference does it make?
>and you are proof looped.
Ah, so it IS you. Okay, so you didn't answer the question and all of a sudden you don't have anything to say and you just want to criticize. Okay, so you are full of shit then.

You "instantly" manifested cash, which wasn't the question I asked you. I asked about an object materializing out of nothing, just teleporting into existence. Not "around the corner". Not "someone gave it to me". full on, like magic.

And that never happened. Feel free to correct the record. Did that happen? Yes or no? Because it sounds like I'm talking to dishonest cagey fuckwad right now, and you're totally full of shit.

btw, I will remind everyone that this guy actually claimed he has never failed to manifest anything. Not once.

Never ran into any resistance. Never struggled. Never tried and failed. Every single time he's every tried to manifest anything, he just "believed" and it worked.

Without fail. Every time. Those are his words.

And yet he left that little back pedal of "well every time I believed something would happen, it did".

So he's just gaslighting himself. Every time it didn't work, he just told himself "I guess I didn't believe hard enough". This guy is full of shit.

And now that I am simply asking him, again, to repeat the claim that he teleported an object into existence, that he manifested and object and it materialized out of nothing. That's what he said. Well, first he changed the subject and claimed he "instantly" manifested it (which is not special and was not what I was asking). Then he... got all weird and suddenly didn't want to talk any more when pressed.

So I'm starting to think he's totally full of shit.

>So I'm starting to think he's totally full of shit.
Oh, and by the way, these types always are. They think they know all the answers, everything is so simple and easy.

>How come it doesn't work for you bro? Just believe harder bro

These people are liars. Frauds. I think he's actually gaslighted himself into believing it. He's not exactly lying. Or at least, not to me. He's lying to himself.

There are things he cannot currently manifest. Things he has tried to manifest but has failed to get. That is true of everyone, and it is true of him. He does not have infinite power, and can just do or get anything he wants.

He'll say "oh yes, I have. I can manifest anything. There are no limits bro!" But then he'll add that pesky little caveat of "I can manifest anything I believe.... those manifests that failed, well I just didn't believe them see? So they don't count. Every time my manifests didn't work, it's just that I didn't believe hard enough"

I mean that's his little game. Every time something doesn't work, it's "just believe harder bro". I mean he really is that meme.

>>40725402 (OP)
does robotically affirming silently work? i get headaches and facial nerve pain when i try it out loud

>>40725475
someone make a version of this that will help you get a hot girlfriend

>>40734255
>filtered by the easiest explanation of UL

Try visualizing your dream girlfriend with music

https://youtu.be/2loY-oxBE64?list=RDBvYuf4r-8xk

>>40734249
>does robotically affirming silently work?
yes
>i get headaches and facial nerve pain when i try it out loud
Okay, so this is resistance my dude. Some part of you is resisting your affirmations
Maybe doing it silently would work better, but uh, you need to figure out why some part of you is resisting

Perhaps because it's getting annoyed at you repeating it over and over? like "I got the message already"

nodreams spinal anon here
i did fast years ago, like 2-3 days, eating nothing. eat once, then again 2-3 days nothing and so on
i cant really fast because im already somewhat underweight, weak and only eat once, max twice per day.

Now that those retards have stopped fighting im gonna try and give advice.
>>40730927
>i should clarify that i was masturbating to a pov video scene, imagining i was the one fucking her. then at the point of climax doing my best to imagine that i was really fucking her
Not that anon you replied to. Anyways heres what you did wrong: For one, that's closer to chaos magick than true New Thought-style manifestation. Neville Goddard and co. were all about stripping away masturbatory (lol) rituals and hacks as much as they could to saturate to the subconcious as directly as possible. If you really want to use orgasm as a primer, look into sigil magic and use that instead of porn or /loa/ shit. Otherwise, learn how to use Neville Goddard's method of prayer (State Akin to Sleep + Visualization) and stick with that.

The second thing you did wrong was not choose a scene to imagine that actually implied you got what you wanted. All your scene implied was that you were fucking someone. In this case, a specific pornstar. If you want a relationship you need to choose a scene that implies you are in one. Again, unless you really want to be a coomer, I suggest you go with a less sexual imaginal scene. Something like GP telling you she loves you, or you bragging about your amazing redhead gf to a friend. Good luck, I think this is all you need to get it right this time.

>>40734249
If you affirm and actually, genuinely believe it and take on the Assumption (READ: take on, adopt, or begin to have) then it works just fine. You have to really take on the desire and mentally walk with the thing you are trying to (already have) become. Neville suggests against it because it can easily become useless (vain repetitions) by fucking that part up. Better to just skip it and just go into a SATS with your affirmation instead of affirming all day. If you must take the robo-pill, just affirm when you have a thought contrary to your desire and drop it once the bad feelings are replaced.

>everyone else says
fuck of with that, at that point just go to /adv/ and stop shitting the thread with your autism and I call it that because that's what it is. No one cares about your triple post essays about "what is easier" when is very clear you don't understand why. No one cares about your technicalities dilemma about "thin air", "instant", "around the corner" or "someone gave it to me".
The only proof you need is what you get. Youre sperging ans triple posting for stupid "proofs" that no one able to do would do just to stroke your ego. If you live in the "everyone else says" you will be caged and limited all your life.
>Then he went off on "Well, I got everything I ever believed in".
Are you him? Are you one of those retards that believes that everyone wants the same shit? Even if it were true, I wouldn't degrade my self image just to stroke the ego of a random anon. Once you started sperging, it becomes that, I wouldn't say "yes, I can't manifest a golden goalpost moving from thin air" so a chimp can climb a box and drum his chest while sperging he was right in another chain of three post.
>He back pedaled and coped, saying "well, everything I BELIEVED came true"
Again, you don't know the hows of the whys. You aren't even full of shit, you're empty. Yes, that's how fucking works. You can act like you did everything well but you can fail at anything if you do it wrong. That includes LoA.
If you don't believe, if you don't have coherence, if you don't have certainty, if you don't Know, you will fail.
But you don't even know why. You just want someone to lower his head and stroke your ego saying "you're right" so you can climb the bars of your cage and dance.

>>40734418
>nodreams spinal anon here
>i did fast years ago, like 2-3 days, eating nothing. eat once, then again 2-3 days nothing and so on
>i cant really fast because im already somewhat underweight, weak and only eat once, max twice per day.
okay, did that give you any dreams?
2-3 days is where the intense dreams begin to happen. so I think you should try 4-5 days. And not taking breaks or anything.
you just need to go like 4 days, maybe 5. If that doesn't do shit to give you dreams, then yeah it probably won't do anything if you go further.

>>40734506
>The second thing you did wrong was not choose a scene to imagine that actually implied you got what you wanted. All your scene implied was that you were fucking someone. In this case, a specific pornstar. If you want a relationship you need to choose a scene that implies you are in one. Again, unless you really want to be a coomer, I suggest you go with a less sexual imaginal scene. Something like GP telling you she loves you, or you bragging about your amazing redhead gf to a friend. Good luck, I think this is all you need to get it right this time.
I feel like imagining sex will do the same thing though, right?
If you're having sex with a woman, doesn't that sort of imply you're in a relationship with her? I know it doesn't exactly. But I don't think anyone would complain about having sex with some hot girl they like.
If that makes sense.

>>40734507
>>everyone else says
>fuck of with that
I think it's pretty important. You can learn a lot from other people
Why is anyone here in this thread, if not to share stories, and learn from each other? That's why I'm here. To learn shit

>No one cares about your technicalities dilemma about "thin air", "instant", "around the corner" or "someone gave it to me".
Well that is sort of the entire point though.
Anyone can manifest an object around the corner, or someone gave it to you.
It is far far more impressive to make objects appear like it's harry potter and you just conjured something into existence.

And most people have decided this kind of thing doesn't happen. Seems to be a limitation of manifesting.

Then this guy comes in and says "oh I can do that". Then walks it back and says "well I manifested it instantly". Then said "i can manifest anything, but those times I didn't believe didn't count, dontcha know???"
>The only proof you need is what you get.
correct. And if someone can do something I can't do, I become intensely curious and immediately ask them how they did it.
But that guy was full of shit so... yeah. I was right. Unfortunately.
But a lot of the time, when someone says they can do something I can't do, I ask them and like 50% of the time they explain it, and I learn something new. It's really useful.
>Are you one of those retards that believes that everyone wants the same shit? Even if it were true
But he said he could do it. So... yeah bud. He said he made money appear out of thin air.
That's a lot more impressive than finding it under something or whatever. That's making objects materialize within line of sight. Which seems to be a key limitation.
If I can do that, then I don't need coincidences any more. I can just make things happen.

>>40734507
>You can act like you did everything well but you can fail at anything if you do it wrong. That includes LoA.
Nah bro. He said he never failed at manifesting. He said that he (currently) could do anything. Not theoretically sometime in the future. That he could do anything at all, make anything happen, and that he has never failed at manifesting.
And that's just not true and you know it. There are things he cannot do currently. Things he's tried to do, but couldn't get to work
But he lied, and then backpedaled, which proves he's full of shit. He just won't admit it

You don't have a problem with that. You know there are things you can't do currently. Things you've tried to do and failed at. That's normal! There's nothing wrong with that. Everyone is trying to do more. Everyone wants to know how to do more, and manifest bigger things.
>If you don't believe, if you don't have coherence, if you don't have certainty, if you don't Know, you will fail.
No, you don't need to believe it. You can manifest something without a care in the world, with no focus, that you don't have any belief in, that you do even as a joke. Sometimes it works better that way
Now I know you belief niggers will say "but bro, you must have believed it without realizing!"
What about shit you totally believe in, but doesn't happen?
Belief is not the only variable. It is one variable, but it's not necessary. You can manifest things without "believing" in them.
You don't need certainty either. That helps sure, but it's not necessary. There are many ways of doing it.

>You just want someone to lower his head and stroke your ego saying "you're right" so you can climb the bars of your cage and dance.
No, I just want him to admit he's full of shit. You know he's a liar. You know he's full of shit. I don't like liars, and I don't like frauds.

I don't like jackasses pretending to be wise sages, when they don't know shit, and are inflating their resume.

>>40734603
>You know
>You know
>You know
>You know
Nope I don't know "that", stop assuming I'm thinking like you, you autistic manipulative piece of shit.

>>40734569
>>The only proof you need is what you get.
>correct. And if someone can do something I can't do, I become intensely curious and immediately ask them how they did it.
To be clear, I have learned many many things through this process
Someone claims they can do some cool shit. Then I just ask them how their system works, what they did. That sort of thing
And about 50% of the time, I learn something new
And sometimes, they are full of shit. Other times, they are for real, but they can't explain it or don't want to or whatever.
But 50% is still pretty good numbers for learning new shit.

If someone else can do something, so can I. There is no ability I cannot copy.

I didn't start out with this belief, but it's something I've seen confirmed time and time again. Same for everyone else too. Anyone can learn anything. Anyone can copy anyone else. There are no limits.

If someone else can do it, so can you.

The only problem is when people are full of shit, and say things like "you can manifest anything". Like say, for instance, shooting laser beams out of your eyes like super man.
Or I dunno, becoming a millionaire instantly. Or a billionaire.
Or whatever else.
These people talk big, but their results don't back up the big talk.
Meanwhile, I'm going to be talking to people who can actually DO what they are talking about, and therefore know what they are talking about (not some theory they think is true, but something they have DONE so they know it's true), and I'm going to be making more progress faster.

And I know the faggots will say "oh, but you can progress infinitely, if you just believe. No need for progress, you're already there"
Where's your lambo? No? No millions of dollars? No gold bars? Then shut the fuck up and stop talking out your ass.

>>40734637
>Nope I don't know "that", stop assuming I'm thinking like you, you autistic manipulative piece of shit.
Really? You already admitted it though.
You even backpedaled his backpedal.

You think he can do anything, currently. Not theoretically some day, but he can ACTUALLY do anything he wants, right now.
Really?

No, you don't. Stop being a dishonest piece of shit. You KNOW he can't. I know he can't. Everyone knows he can't, and even he, in his pathetic coping larping way, knows that he can't.

He just gaslights himself and tells himself all those times it didn't work were just because he "didn't believe hard enough". And he's succeeded on every single manifest he's ever tried and has never failed (minus all the times he didn't believe hard enough)

Be a man. If you disagree with my assessment, then tell me I'm wrong. Just tell me flat out that I'm wrong. Don't get all bitchy when I say something you know is true. You know he's full of shit, that's it, the end.

Unless you wanna pretend mister super hero over here can do heat vision like superman? You know he can't, shut up.

I'm just wondering if a single person here will actually back up that idiots claim of never failing to manifest anything in his entire life.

Does anyone agree with that? Or does that sound like he's full of shit? I'm guessing not a single person believes that. Not a single one.

He said he's never failed to manifest anything. Every single thing he's ever tried has worked. Every single one. Every single time.

Yeah, no, he's full of shit.

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>hey guys, I'm a super wise ascended master guru sage. And I've never failed to manifest anything.
>except for all the times I didn't believe hard enough. But those don't count.
>How can I believe harder? Make sure my manifests are more consistent, so I fail less and win more? How to alter my beliefs, if that's the actual main metric which determines if a manifest succeeds or fails? How can I measure my belief, improve it, increase it, or change it, so that I manifest what I want? Manifest bigger things?
>I dunno. Maybe believe harder bro?

No wonder this guy gaslights people. He has gaslighted himself into believing he's never failed a single manifest. Not one! Never ran into resistance. Never struggled to get something to manifest. Not a single time. Except for all the times it didn't work, but those don't count because he didn't "really" believe.

That is literally a cope. Fucking pathetic.

>>40734665
Nta, but you are wrong. This works via belief, conviction, knowing, whatever semantics you want to use to describe it. If he didn't believe, of course its not going to work. That's not a backpedal. I'll second this >>40734637 anon's opinion. You are an autistic manipulative piece of shit.

>>40734730
>Nta, but you are wrong. This works via belief, conviction, knowing, whatever semantics you want to use to describe it.
Yes, I agree, but you can do it with any of them
You don't need specifically belief. You can do it with a different one.
Same for "knowing" or conviction, or whatever else.
People manifest shit with all kinds of emotional energies and states of mind. And they all work. Some are better than others, but they all work.

The point being made is that you "need" belief. No, you don't. The belief niggers focus on that, but it's not necessary. You can use some other thing, without using belief, and manifest just fine.

> If he didn't believe, of course its not going to work.
yes, I agree
>That's not a backpedal.
No, it is. He claimed he could do anything and never failed to manifest anything. That's horse shit. Then he said "well if I believe in it, then it works, but if I don't believe then it doesn't work"
Okay, but then that means it doesn't always work. It's not true that every single manifest he's ever tried has worked. That's just nonsense.

I had no belief yet I fucked my SP a week ago and I wanna do it again.

>>40734774
He never made that claim. Belief, conviction, and knowledge are synonyms you absolute fucking retard.

>>40734778
>I had no belief yet I fucked my SP a week ago and I wanna do it again.
Exactly. You can do things as a joke, half heartedly, or even with a random thought you don't take seriously at all.
Belief is not necessary. Some kind of "energy" or "push" is. But belief is just one kind of emotional energy that can power a manifestation.
Belief is not the only thing that works, and it's not necessary either. Why are the people who fixate on "belief" such ass holes?
Ah, I get it. It's because they focus on belief. duh. So they have "strong beliefs" and aren't very compromising. People who use "love" or whatever else will be a different kind of person. And people who use anger to power up their spells will also be a different kind of person. More angry, obviously.

I mean it's so obvious in hindsight. Of course the people who focus on "belief" will be uncompromising pricks with "strong beliefs". That's their whole system. Kinda sad honestly. There are so many other ways of doing it. You don't need belief at all.

Oh fuck they are still going at it kek
>>40734534
So I get where you are coming from. I suppose you should test it out during SATS, redoing your scene to have a clearly different ginger gp instead of the pornstar you used as reference just to make sure your brain doesnt make the same mistake. In SATS you should be better able to saturate your subconcious with the context that this is an entirely new girl that you are in a serious LTR with. Maybe have her saying she loves you mid-coitus, so that part is obvious. That's really the thing here: going to the end by ensuring that the imaginal act you are taking really implies you two are together. If you can do that with a sex scene, go for it. Maybe try to "explode" your desire and happy feelings while looping this scene. It could help.

>>40734511
yea sure. once i was ill and did not eat for like seven days.
the only times i had any dreams was when incapacitated by copious amounts of alcohol or really intense emotions. both of these things are years and years ago. i decided for myself that these things are not what i am and not what i want.
>tldr no desires
>N O dreams
>clinical/medical sleep problems that are probably not going away (a woman i met with the exact same condition ironicly dreams everynight)
>good memory
>did a test if manifesting via concentration and affirmations for me does work
>yup, insane it does work
>i want to dream/astral travel and work on the other planes (astral cafe ect)
>cant even into dreams

>>40734813
I didn't even jokingly do it, I was desperate. I don't even know how it happened if it was my shit attempt at SATS, affirming robotically or my askfirmations. I wanna do it again but I dunno how and I do feel kinda needy. I just want a text.

>>40734819
Watch out for that pesky subconscious. Gotta get sats perfect or it'll never work.

ANON-MOTHER-KUN
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>>40734813
Dunking on belieflets with complexity addiction isn't being an asshole. It's the right thing to do.

>>40734786
>He never made that claim
Nope.
This is what he said.
>If you don't believe, if you don't have coherence, if you don't have certainty, if you don't Know, you will fail.
Sorry, but no. NONE of those things are necessary. You can manifest things without using those emotional energies at all. you can use something totally different.

> Belief, conviction, and knowledge are synonyms you absolute fucking retard.
yeah, I'm aware. And you don't need any of them. you can manifest things as a joke, as a skeptic, sure it won't work, totally demoralized and depressed, or whatever.
You don't need belief, or conviction, or "knowledge".
And believing harder doesn't necessarily make it work better.

And there are things you truly believe will happen, and they just don't.
Other things you don't even care about, hardly put any energy into, have no belief it will happen and just do as a joke or for no particular reason, and then THAT happens instead.

So belief is really not the key factor here. Sorry "just believe harder" bros. Belief isn't the only option, and it's not necessary either.

>>40734825
>I didn't even jokingly do it, I was desperate. I don't even know how it happened if it was my shit attempt at SATS, affirming robotically or my askfirmations. I wanna do it again but I dunno how and I do feel kinda needy. I just want a text.
you'll figure it out bro

>>40734819
>In SATS you should be better able to saturate your subconcious with the context that this is an entirely new girl that you are in a serious LTR with. Maybe have her saying she loves you mid-coitus, so that part is obvious.
yeah I think this is a good option

>>40734848
>yeah, I'm aware.
?
>>40734774
>Yes, I agree, but you can do it with any of them. You don't need specifically belief.

>>40734821
yeah I guess the normal rules don't apply to you then, because of your condition
I wouldn't worry about dreams then. They aren't really "necessary" for anything.

>>40734847
>Dunking on belieflets with complexity addiction isn't being an asshole. It's the right thing to do.
but belief isn't necessary to manifest things
It's just one way to fuel a manifestation. There's lots of other emotional energies and states of mind that do it.

>>40734864
>>Yes, I agree, but you can do it with any of them. You don't need specifically belief.
The "any of them" part of that sentence is referring to many different types of emotional energies.
You can use belief. Or conviction, or "knowledge". and a bunch of many other things too. Like love, hate, despair, boredom, or even just going into a trance and staring at something with absolutely no thoughts or feelings in your mind at all.
The belief/conviction/knowledge type of thing is not necessary.

NONE of the things he claimed were necessary are actually necessary.

>>40732199
bro you are just helping me because my non-reaction to your mantras is making my manifestation stronger

>>40734879
Those things only work because you belive they work.

>>40734892
>Those things only work because you belive they work.
Nope. You can do a manifest which you believe strongly will not work, powered up with some other thing, and it can work. Belief is not necessary, not at all.
You can even have people who have absolutely no belief that another emotional energy will work, and they just accidentally do it as a total atheist, and it works.

Great example would be manifesting by getting into a trance like a stupor, and just staring at something with no thoughts or feelings in your mind at all.
That can work.

What if someone just does that accidentally? They don't know about manifesting, and they have no idea that such a thing can work. No beliefs what so ever about it.
And it works.

So that kinda disproves the belief niggers and their theory that belief is the end all be all. It's not. Sorry guys.

Belief is just one of many power sources you can use to make something happen. And honestly, I think it's kind of a shit one.

>>40731684
>My hate speech doesn't land me in prison, it empowers me
>I have a harem of daughters and wives of dead liberal politicians and foreigners
>I am greater than Hitler
based haha

>>40734891
>bro you are just helping me because my non-reaction to your mantras is making my manifestation stronger
that's the spirit bro

I keep trying to stop but my mind auto replays my affirmations. Wtf

>>40734825
desperation doesn't push your desired reality away, it's doubting that it will happen, or fearing that it won't.

>>40735085
I don't doubt or fear it not happening, I know it will happen. >>40735072

you guys have some scripts/pages or sources for slight paranormal/naughty LoA affirmations?
im crafting/modifying some of my affirmations, but always too nervous (of all the possibilities) to keep thinking straight, lmao

>>40735430
>I see things that blow my mind
>I'm not living in Gaza Iran or Detroit
Repeat 3x 10 minutes a day

>>40735449
>>I'm not living in Gaza Iran or Detroit
kek
nah i mean like,
>when i lock eyes with single women, their pussy tingles for me already
or lewd stuff like that
>Repeat 3x 10
im wayyy beyond they horizon, you wouldnt believe

>>40725402 (OP)
Any tips for truly forgetting my problems and starting to manifest? I can't stop thinking about who I want to help, I'm sleeping poorly and eating little, I feel helpless because I'm someone without financial means... I want to manifest this person's well-being, but I can't stop thinking about going to help directly, or about them not being able to find what they need.

>try visualizing myself in my ideal female body
>just start crying instead

>>40725402 (OP)
What is you guys daily manifestation routine? Just SATS before sleep? I suppose you can do SATS at any moment, right? You don't actually have to sleep after a session I suppose
I'm also watching these cringe videos that guide your manifestation session

>>40734918
nta, so what is the primary reason for failure then? I want to be able to manifest with a mathematical precision. I've done this list of past successes vs failures in order to find one common denominator on the "failures" side yet I don't see any.

>>40736350
I repeat 2 affirmations all day every day.

>wake up
>manipulative autist is still on it
>he didn't even caught I was saying he is wrong and tries to spin it off with "you know"s
>when he reads the post where I called him on, he tries to make me look as the wrong side as he has been doing, ignoring any fact or sense
>can't even manifest a "you're right" so he can dance like a happy ape and start with another reddit spaced nonsense.
lmao
>bashing on belief, knowledge and on fucking certainty because he and "others" had had results with wishy washy joke moments, calling all of them, including fucking KNOWLEDGE, "emotional energies"
>"oh man, I have this EMOTION that every time I open the tap, water will come out"
Now he really is full of shit, proof looped and a certified keychain of limiting beliefs.

Anyone know how to get better at visualizing for sats? Is it just a matter of practicing? I can kind of visualize but i cant tell if its realistic

What's the best proof loa is real? Besides ladder or tennis ball
Or is no such thing possible because it entails a sort of solipsism

>>40736707
not him but I have to admit the belief theory of manifestation doesn't add up.
Almost everybody who tries LoA for the first time doesn't believe in it from the get go. Yet shit still happens.

>>40736779
That's a hard answer to give unless you want to read a precise, down to earth answer becaus LoA doesn't make sense in clownworld laws and terms. The only proof that you can have is the one you seek for yourself.

You can read and hear testimonies but they're all subjective from both parties. Some care about what they need and nothing else. Others need people who went for their exact same desires to consider it valid. There is a bunch that says if you didn't got generational wealth o made feats like getting a bar of gold from thin air (lmao). What is a proof depends on yourself and calling for a definitive one is dumb because people able to do something like that won't risk doxing themselves just to give "proof". I mean, those feats deserve just getting the fuck off of this reality. If I could pull them off, I won't be in this universe but in one of my creation.
At the end, it depends on you. Some threads ago a clown replied about how having a normal "middle class life" wasn't a proof of anything. Even ignoring all the extra things that made that story more than just living a "middle class life", you can go and see how most of humanity lives in misery and even the middle class clowns on certain country are on medical bill to be on bankruptcy. Some can't see privilege if they have it so they don't (want to) understand how just having that kind of life, again ignoring everything that makes that story a LoA story, is big for those people.
I know LoA is real. I've seen it. I've experienced it. But that means nothing to others, the same way some are pro-misery and pro-atrocities until it affects them.
Also, testing for the sake of testing implies doubt. You don't open the tap to check if there is water if you know there is.
TLDR: LoA is subjective as fuck. The only valid proof is the one you chase by yourself. If you want a science guy answer, that answer will be no because the case of proof for the sake of proof implies doubt and that will proof loop you.

>>40734506
redhead anon here, thank you!

>>40737035
Certain forms of law of attraction still work with doubt right?

>>40736779
honestly man the best proof will be the one you create for yourself, the more you seek for proof from external sources the more you'll manifest just that, looking for proof

we all want that unassailable external evidence that its real but i dont think it works that way. unfortunately youll have to do the work, persist in the assumption and create small wins/manifestations that build up your belief.

any anon smarter than me at this please correct me if im wrong here

ive won 2 free lottery tickets back to back, i feel my win getting closer, maybe today. 200k is already mine

>>40737085
https://www.quatism.com/lottery.htm

Buy a multi draw 39 draws 78 dollars powerball ticket with it today before 10PM

>>40737103
ah yes i remember this, wasnt there also something about making a list of things to buy every time you lost or something? very interesting

>>40737085
>I didn’t win the jackpot so this much lower result is proof that I am going to win one day
No, absolute cope.
You either get what you ask for exactly or you are lying to yourself.

>>40737071
>if you look for proof you’ll only get looking for proof.
Lmao. The state of larpers.

>>40737125
Yes I've been doing it seriously for many months now

Hard to say if it's working but I recently saw this post by the original author https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40042230/#q40042230

Problem is he just now decides to point this out
>Similarly, with the mapping routine if numbers aren't equal you should be looking at the specific combinations (e.g. 5 white 1 red wherein the white and red balls have different max numbers can result in combinations which are biased - still qRNG numbers but you'll end up with a subset of combinations that 2, 3, 4, etc times more likely to be drawn than the others.)

I'm guessing that means set the number of white balls to 5 and number of red balls to 1. Set max of white to 69 and max of red to 69 and just generate until you get a ticket that has a red ball less than 27

But I'm not sure

>>40737153
i mean i get what you're saying, but my issue is i still have a subconscious block or hang-up about the probability of such a large jackpot, i don't think its cope to lower the scale so it fits my current belief structure

>>40737042
Yes but in that case you're in lukewarm territory.
Is like asking if using cooking oil works for lubricating some ball-bearings or if is ok using just duct tape instead of using nails, screws or whatever you really need for a job. It may work, but is far from being the best.

>>40737185
This doesn’t make any sense.
Either this is your consciousness objectified see the OP) or it isn’t. You are saying your subconscious somehow trumps it. The subconscious does not work that way. That’s also cope.
If you manifest a specific thing then you are either getting it or you aren’t. Any “sort of” is plainly not working.

I keep affirming and ive just prayed to God and made a soul contract

>>40737281
the way i see, and maybe im wrong, is that i am aware that subconsciously i believe that lets say a powerball jackpot worth 200 million seems more unlikely than a local lottery prize of 100 or 200k.

knowing this subconscious limitation i currently have around probability im not gonna try to bruteforce a massive win currently until ive solidified a stronger belief in my ability to manifest a large jackpot, however the smaller win is well within my current threshold of what i "know" i can manifest with my current belief structure of manifestation

>>40737334
Not LoA

>>40737338
Ofc it's loa because I'm assuming it is true

>>40737348
No you are not assuming. You are using other things to do the process and therefore not assuming.
Second causes brings in complications and inevitable failure.
You are like mother anon but just better.

>>40737403
At least I'm better than that trip fag larper with 0 proven successes meanwhile I have manifested this SP back twice over the past 3 threads.

>>40737419
Ok that sounds like a thing.
You are definitely a thousand times better than mother anon.

outer man sees the seed, inner man sees the flower. it is as simple as letting go of the seed and going for the flower.

>>40737403
>>40737419
>>40737433
now that's what i call obsessed!

>>40737451
>I am fucking useless
At least you are being recognised for your one achievement. Failure.

>>40737085
>>40737185
just remember that each lottery ticket that doesn't net you anything doesn't affect the fact that you're going to win whatever amount you want

>>40737572
Very true >>40737163

>>40737572
thank you for the confirmation i also believe that,

one thing of note, i still sometimes experience doubt or fear the moment before checking my ticket on the app (you can the barcode and a message pops up)

ive done sats visualizing this "popup" message when checking my ticket, but i wonder if there is some resistance because im using technology or my phone or something, or if those even matters

maybe i should just visualize something else? like being in my mansion with my gp, instead of visualizing the moment of the win?

Does anybody have any reading or videos along the subjects of observation changing reality? Looking for things like explanations to the double slit experiment where observations change outcomes and how to apply that to manifestation. Also interested in theory's explaining "dead zones". Basically the old adage, if a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it, does it make a sound? If there is no observer, does something exist and can you manipulate it between observations by changing your perception?

>>40734879
>>40734918
What techniques are effective for manifesting with out belief? How does manifesting without belief work? Genuinely curious.

>>40737866
>i still sometimes experience doubt or fear the moment before checking my ticket on the app
just let these thoughts pass by without commenting on them
if you avoid checking your passes for any reason you also show doubt already, just open the ticket knowing you have it, and don't complain or be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

>>40738321
nta. 95% of population is "manifesting" (unconsciously) without belief. When a person indulges in mental arguing and later has the argument in physical reality that's the Law in action.
Stop looking at LoA as some specific "manifesting" thing and treat it more like universal Law whether you operate it consciously or not.

>>40737866
NTA. The "resistance" is you failing to go to the end result properly. Similar problem as the redhead guy. All you are manifesting is *a* lottery win, not the specific one you want. To do that, your scene needs to imply that the winning ticket has already come and gone:
>maybe i should just visualize something else? like being in my mansion with my gp, instead of visualizing the moment of the win?
Yes! This is what you should have been doing from the beginning. If you really, truly need this financial windfall to come from a lottery ticket, include a reference (verbal, visual) to that in your scene and see what happens. You visualize what comes after, not the moment it comes. You go to the end.

Would believeing that my powers have limits on what i can achieve hinder my ability to get what i desire?
for example if i am confident that i believe i can attract money and moderate wealth to my self but i am skeptical wether i can attract a woman or change the wether would this hinder what i can do with the system since am not convinced that i can get everything i would desire with it?

>>40738825
>Would believeing that my powers have limits on what i can achieve hinder my ability to get what i desire?
Creation is finnish and all thar

>>40738553
Nta, but how far in the end are we talking. Do I imagine me and my sp as corpses buried next to one another?

>>40738553
>>40738380
you guys rule

>>40739005
You *could*, I guess. Not sure how you'd go about visualizing that lol. The scene just has to imply you are already in a commited relationship with SP. Could take place just after she tells you she loves you, could take place within the domestic bliss of marriage years after the fact. Just dont overthink it anymore and keep it simple

Doing my first foray in the subject combing the OP but it doesn't seem to explain what SP stands for?

>>40739169
Are you manifesting any, Mister Anya poster?

I manifested rain and water coming back after the pipe burst after doing some robotic affirmations. The key is in feeling the affirmations with confidence as an objective reality.

Question: something bad might happen, I'm trying to visualize that everything is okay but I can't help but get worried and think of the worst case scenario constantly. Any tips regarding avoiding such behavior?

>>40741010
notice yourself doing it
take a moment to simply breath in and then out
re-focus

If you avoid looking at a thing because it makes you feel insecure, don't think: "If I look at this something bad might happen", think: "If I look at this it's going to feed my paranoia".

I manifested some free stuff several times. Like probably a few thousand dollars worth of stuff. Very oddly specific things that have very low probability / weird coincidences. I simply think that all the free/unwanted stuff in the future belongs to me. I also decided to barter or pass on some of the stuff to people that need it or can use it more than me. Maybe it will help some of you to know this. I think it's good to help yourself and then selectively help other people when you see a coincidence. Kind of like passing on the chain of coincidences a bit.

>>40725402 (OP)
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>40742818
Thread blessed.

affirm without affirmations

If Neville is right shouldn't men be having way more sex? I swear I think about everyday and go to sleep thinking about it.

>>40743613
>If Neville is right shouldn't men be having way more lack of sex? I swear I think about everyday and go to sleep thinking about it.

>>40743613
I ask myself the same thing
Always struggled falling asleep and, even without knowing about loa, my nightly ritual for a couple years was to imagine myself in bed between the same two women i could picture vividly from their faces and voices down to the feel of their skins
Needless to say it never happened for real
My cope for it not working (and therefore possibly working in the future) was that despite having a vivid imagination, I lack focus and wasn't trying to fill my mind with it exclusively
Also most of the time i ended up jacking off and thinking about other things after bussing
I think it's the difference neville talks about between futile daydreaming and actually doing the thing

>>40743613
the fact that men aren't having sex nowadays that their brains are filled with "I can't get girls if I'm not 6'4" makes perfect sense. Whoever invented blackpill is really just making it easier for us - and themselves, because the elites knew about manifestation before Neville was alive, why do you think the Bible is full of it? Why do you think they're so keen on making a mockery of the occult yet still using occult symbols?

>>40743669
>I think it's the difference neville talks about between futile daydreaming and actually doing the thing
If you can have no fear of your manifestation in your daydreams then you'll have no fear if you are on the streets talking to strangers. If your gut thinks you are ready, you are ready.

>>40743678
no i meant actually doing the sleepy state and imagining exclusively day after day

>>40743613
why should they? is Neville's gospel common knowledge? it's like asking why don't everyone drive sports cars if millionaires exist, you have to know what you're doing before you can do it.

Switching to the general affirms of I don't chase, I attract

>>40743671
I'm not one who likes some of those schizo theories but you're right with that point. Any grade of shitpilling on yourself only makes life and LoA harder for you. It's like being put on those things used so donkeys can only see what they have in front of them, in this case, all the shit you don't want in your life disguised as "protection" or "resistance against" it.

>>40743753
i don't even need to attract, the budding rose is already with me.

>>40743722
How would you manifest sex then? Other than going to sleep while imagining it?

>>40725402 (OP)
Is using LOA for someone's good, out of pure charity, more effective?

How can I avoid constantly thinking about this person's pain?

I liked the advice to think about what you get later like a lottery ticket, but what about this? I'm not winning anything. Should I just imagine this person thanking me later?

>>40744081
It makes no difference.

>>40743779
Meds and mental illness is all you have within you.

>>40744095
Do you have any examples of stories like this?

>>40744119
Neville makes it clear that you can use this for good or evil and it does not matter whether you use it for yourself or others. There is no more efficiency.
Same with any other genuine teacher/writer/guru. This is a practice where you are the soprano power. There is no karma or charity or good or evil involved.
Just read the docs.
Stories are useless. No once can believed in this general. It’s packed with larpers making up sorties. Just go back to the sources.

>>40744081
>>40744119
Stop trying to make this about divinity, the "greater good", "good", "objective" morality, etc. The limit is yourself. If you believe is better using it for charitable end, it is. If LoA claps you in the hand or monkey paws you is only your fault for using it for something YOU believe you shouldn't have or do.
Do note I'm not saying believing in god or having certain morals is bad or invalid. I'm saying it doesn't belong here due to what I said up there.

>>40744078
what do you mean? you manifest your desires the same way you always do, by looking within and simply being with it.

https://luckykiwiii101.tumblr.com/tagged/void%20success
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMrQe87gRk
/loa/ is thriving

>>40744170
>>40744188
Thanks anon. I just hope it doesn't take long. I tried SATS once, and when it was starting to get what I wanted, it went wrong because I stopped. I must keep going and believe.

what is sats? im esl and i know sats only from american sats test for military

>>40744500
State akin to sleep

>>40744550
i c ty

>>40743613
I dunno man, since the world is created by your own assumptions it's really all on you what 'men' are doing.

>>40736350
The 3-6-9 method

>> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg
is there any other link to download the tapes (15GB) except mega links? mega blocks my downloads. i downloaded the testimonals (5megabyte) and now im infinity loop blocked.

SATS is tougher than I thought
I relax, assess that I'm not quite drowsy, think on my scene to prepare, keep doing it because I'm still not sleepy, then somehow I wake up in the morning

How do I manifest black wings, long fangs, multidimensional powers and being able to reset reality by snapping my fingers? I want to be a powerful, omnipotent schizo vampire and conquer the world.

>>40745901
assume

What experience proved /loa/ was real for you?

I learned about /loa/ when I was 16 and used 4chan everyday, back when I was a chronically online, lonely kid deep into incel-core movies like Taxi Driver and A clockwork orange. I used to think no one would ever get me.

But I started repeating the assumption:

>"There's a girl out there who wants to have sex with me"
>"I will lose my virginity before the end of high school"

A few weeks later, I told my school counselor how much of a lonely fag I was. She said she knew a girl who reminded her of me, same niche interests, was also isolated, and asked if I wanted to meet her. I said yes.

Before I even met her, I kept affirming:

>"I'm going to sleep with this girl. No matter what."

We met, clicked, and eventually lost my virginity to her. The relationship didn't last, mostly due to me being insecure still, but the experience proved LOA worked for me.

>>40729816
Don't do it i had to bring it back.
If you kill you ego you have no desires since you have no desires you already are in your "desired" reality having nothing is your new wish or desire since you have no ego

>>40746642
when i had a bully at work and did affirmations all day that the universe had the perfect solution for both of us. he instantly stopped showing up to work and then, within a few days, quit. it was like witnessing a miracle unfold right in front of me

Use askfirmations not affirmations. Your subconscious seeks a way to answer the question bypassing doubt.

>>40746642
the fact that it works within, that i can do it with no resistance from anything and universe will go out of it's way to accommodate me doing it and make sure i have no obstacles other than those that i create. that is all i need as evidence.

>>40744188
> the limit is yourself
> monkey paws you for something YOU believe you shouldn't have or do
pick one
topkek

>>40747294
reading is hard
understanding what you read is even harder
being a retard taking just parts out of context
seems natural to you tho, as they say is garbage can, not garbage cannot

is hairloss the final boss for wizards and loafags? because I have never seen a single bald person who managed to successfully use manifestation to regrow their hair back.

even joe dispenza got a hair transplant. lol. wtf? this guy claimed he could heal cancer.

>>40747510
how many balding people are actually using /loa/? and is getting a hair transplant not getting your hair back? is it not enough?

>>40747595
why get a hair transplant when you can grow back your hair naturally. or even alter your genes.

>>40747510
this unironically, considering it's possible to regrow your hair biologically

>>40747654
you're concerning yourself with the seed, if your budding rose is getting your hair back then does it truly matter if it is through "transplant" or "naturally"? and why do you think you need to alter your genes?

>>40744869
Use jdownloader.
>>40746642
Noticing a pattern of people using affirmations and getting results while SATs people keep saying it's hard.

>>40744252
>>40747595
>>40747595
Why do you post advice and answer questions when everything you say is wrong?
You can’t do LoA. Don’t tell people how to do things you are unable to do. It’s obviously stupid.
You are worse than a larper.

>>40746642
I had a similar story, except I was 29 and was invited to a wedding by the bride. The days leading up to that I KNEW I would get along with the sister of the bride. A girl I had only heard of but never met.
During the wedding I met her, we talked a bit, and a bit more we spend almost the entire day together. Eventually I mustered up the courage and kissed her, a week later I slept at her place. It was a surreal experience, but also the relationship didn't last because I was losing myself. Probably because I was a kissless virgin to that point and didn't know how to deal with all of this and the insecurities that filled me up.

It was weird but good.

>>40748230
always the first one to reply aren't you?

>>40748354
It’s impossible to tell who is replying to you. I am a different anon. I also think you are a detriment to discussion. You get insulted by various anons here and on your home planet of /succ/.
You just don’t really add anything but you do subtract. This is because your opinion is second hand recycled Edward Art and your own stories suggest that nothing worlds for you and you change your intentions constantly and constantly fail
What do you seek to gain by being incompetent and broadcasting it?

>>40748642
you're the only one here this obsessed with me.

>>40748354
Yes
>>40748642
Based

>>40748646
>manifests failure
>gets told he is shit
You are getting what you want here.

I am trying to manifest a lot of money with this, not a crazy amount of money, just something average or a bit above average for my country's standards (am from a low income country anyways) i just imagine my self owning cash in my 2 hands.

I am trying to manifest a lot of money with this, not a crazy amount of money, just something average or a bit above average for my country's standards (am from a low income country anyways) i just imagine my self owning cash in my 2 hands.

I am trying to manifest a lot of money with this, not a crazy amount of money, just something average or a bit above average for my country's standards (am from a low income country anyways) i just imagine my self owning cash in my 2 hands.

>>40746816
Obviously fucking not if people are having success with regular affirmations

>>40747595
Are you retarded there are countless stories on reddit

>>40746642
I think one of the reasons these affirmations worked so well is because thetre very open ended. You didnt confine it to any specific woman like "im gonna lose my virginity to anri okita". There is ironically a wet pussy for every incel out there to pound. And the goal of losing your virginity before you finish high school isn't even statistically improbable in the grand scheme of things because there over 3 billion women alive and an infinite amount of scenarios to make that happen. There's very little resistance youre dealing with her. Now im thinking about how could you apply this to getting an ideal girl. Like saying "im going to meet my future wife soon" might work but you can't specify if this will even be a good marriage. Maybe "im going to meet my perfect wife/girlfriend soon" is enough

Think i might kill myself

literally about to interview for a marketing agency that could pay me 6 figures, send me your manifestation energy bros!

I am making a new fansly and only fans account and purchasing dozens of custom videos on these websites.
I am spending tens of thousands of dollars on only fans.
I am spending tens of thousands of dollars on fansly.

I am making a new fansly and only fans account and purchasing dozens of custom videos on these websites all from real non AI women.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on only fans.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on fansly.

I am having multiple real non AI women on only fans each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real non AI woman thousands of USA dollars each.

I am having multiple real and non AI women on fansly each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real and non AI woman thousands of USA usa dollars each.

All of this is happening after today and within the next 4 consecutive years. All of this is happening in real life while I am awake in this universe timeline and worldline.

>>40749685
why should i care about what a redditor has to say?

>>40749810
>>40749788
Manifest this please

>But only you can manifest for yourself it's already done etc etc

Just do it and tell me you're doing it and it's done.

Manifest me manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting about manifesting a manifest

>>40749833
>>40749788
Also this request isn't just for him anyone may fulfill my request thank you

you are the one imagining the distance between you and your desire

Hello, hopefully this hasn't been answered before in this thread ...

How do I become able to manifest without the guides of others? My friends are into LoA, and for that reason, I often rely on them though I wish not to.

I will try to manifest what I already have, and if my patience wears thin, I will ask my friend to manifest or make a subliminal for me. It instantly clears my doubt and I am able to bring what I have into the 3D.

How do I remove this imposter syndrome and trust in my own abilities?

>>40750765
>>How do I become able to manifest without the guides of others?
all you need is self concept, and a completely delusional unshakable faith in it
you dont even need SATS
all you need is "I'm it"

>>40750819
through my day i get a lot of negative thoughts concerning my future anxieties, everytime i get them i remember what i try to manifest and tell my self that i will get it in the most natural way for me

>>40743084
thank you.

>doubts gone
>now impatient and thinking "do I need this EXACT thing, actually?"
Dammit man

*manifests the idea that manifesting any other idea won't work for anyone ever again*

>>40725402 (OP)
I do believe in manifestation in terms of the subconscious stuff that happens. But SP manifestation? Specially when they have moved on/don't want to see you? It seems very far fetched and I think that it can damage you mentally.

>>40725402 (OP)
Manifesting qt witch gf.

I stopped caring, even though I have a lot of stuff to care about, and somehow I keep getting best outcomes. I just dont give af, and ever since I just keep winning.
What am I doing right?

>>40752214
no resistance, keep it up

>>40726067
>>40725941

You see, this shit is why I am burnt out when it comes to manifesting. I put forward a request that I am pretty fucking clear with and I am rewarded by the "universe" with some fucking monkey paw bullshit. I have yet to find a decent answer why this keeps happening to me even though at this point I have made sure to be overly specific and clear with my affirmations, scripts, etc.

I don't get it and hence why nowadays I half ass my LOA practice because I keep getting vague bullshit in the ball park of my manifestation. It's like my subconscious understands the general idea of what I want but not the exact specifics I need.

>>40726135
Fuck off cancer

>>40726460
>I phrase it as "I am a millionaire" which is pretty hard to screw up.

You say that but in my case, it happened where a glitch in my bank made me a millionaire for half a day until they fixed it. There are infinite possibilities for the universe to fuck you around.

>>40752931
Sorry anon, didnt read the rest of your post before responding but I agree with what else you said.

I am making a new fansly and only fans account and purchasing dozens of custom videos on these websites all from real non AI women.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on only fans.
I am spending tens of thousands of USA dollars on fansly.

I am having multiple real non AI women on only fans each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real non AI woman thousands of USA dollars each.

I am having multiple real and non AI women on fansly each send me dozens of custom videos in my dms. I am paying each real and non AI woman thousands of USA usa dollars each.

All of this is happening after today and within the next 4 consecutive years. All of this is happening in real life while I am awake in this universe timeline and worldline.

>>40752925
Money counting anon from the prior post. I think its due to a lack of faith in LOA that causes them to back-fire or not work at all. I got what I tried to manifest, but not the result I was looking for when I did it. I have manifested many different things, but nothing too life changing as of yet. Don't give up and believe in yourself. Remember you are in Barbados, or if you prefer Universal line I like the "no perception, no experience, no excuse." affirmation. You can do it. You are blessed with wealth and love.

I live in the south but the industry in my field dead. Have to move to the east or west coast to realistically have a career. My grandma lives in California so I was gonna ask to live with her but didn't wanna seem needy plus I hadn't talked to her in forever.

Ended up somehow inadvertently manifesting a call from her asking how post college is going that led into her saying I could stay with her near San Francisco. Let's go, now just need my girl back bros

>>40743613
>If Neville is right shouldn't men be having way more sex? I swear I think about everyday and go to sleep thinking about it.
I think the key is that there's 2 different imaginations.
1st version is imagining from a position of lack and desire. This doesn't manifest anything.
2nd version is just assuming that what you want will exist. You basically have faith until it appears. This works and even Jesus said so:
>“Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

>>40754771
amazing verse, thanks for sharing it, us being 100/100 certain in getting what we try to manifest's the most important thing by far

>>40754771
yeah this is what i concluded myself about a month ago
but for me it did this
"Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you" (Matthew 17:20).

>>40753186
>Don't give up and believe in yourself. Remember you are in Barbados, or if you prefer Universal line I like the "no perception, no experience, no excuse." affirmation. You can do it. You are blessed with wealth and love.

Thanks anon, you as well. I wonder if there is something minor or stupid that I am doing wrong or that I need to improve my visualization abilities so that my intended "results" clearer. I'm pretty close as well

>>40725402 (OP)
I'm trying to manifest, and I feel like it will work out soon... but I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of everything going wrong. Does even occasional thinking about it really get in the way? I'm anxious and sad about how long it might take.

Cyn is my wife

>>40755653
Affirm to yourself
>my doubt dies not affect my reality
>it's okay to be scared or nervous. That doesn't mean my manifestation isn't coming
>these are normal emotions

Your manifestation is your order at the restaurant.
You ordered a burger, then you enjoy yourself, knowing that a delicious burger is coming. You don't sit there and think, I hope they give me a burger, I'm afraid I ordered a burger and it will never come, or I ordered the burger but I'm afraid it will take an hour to get here... no, you order it and relax. Even if you thought these things, it doesn't affect the kitchen... your burger still comes out fine.

>>40756319
Thank you Anon, I'm really feeling very helpless in this situation, even losing my appetite. The LOA is the only thing I have left, and I'm trying everything while putting the affirmations and SATS into practice.

>>40756365
same here fren, both of us will get what we desire, might as we be as confident in it if you got no other options in life

>>40756498
might as well*

How do you know what your ideal body is? I can't even figure out what sex I wish I were

how to know what i want?
i have no desires, no goals.
why am i even here
im accumulating all the knowledge and wisdom i get my hands on but whats the point.

like yes, i have the insight that i can do any and everything i want, i have faith.
but the problem is more like wanting, not doing.

Woke up feeling better today. Also weirdly got a text message from the takeaway next door to my SPs house, I've never had a text from there before and we haven't been for about a year.

bump

>>40755653
only what you persist in

if you had the literal power of god in your hands why would you settle for a billion dollars instead of turning into a 8 foot tall superwoman

>>40757044
I advise you not trying to get into SP stuff. That can harm you mentally. In general stray away from LoA. Make real substantial changes in your life with work and therapy.

>>40758836
no
it is the other way around. if you had the power to to anything, why then do anything at all really?
since you know you can do anything and you dont have to prove to yourself?
which is my situation >>40757032

>>40753118
I would share my p*rn related LOA fantasy\lucid dream AP goal...but I don't want to sound like a pathetic pornbrain

>>40758886
>it is the other way around. if you had the power to to anything, why then do anything at all really?
because if i had the power to do anything i would definitely turn myself into a literal goddess

>>40758886
>>40757032
I sometimes think I should try to be as extremely comfy as possible; chocolate coca hot cups, a literal hobbit\winnie pooh cave, pajamas with that funny pirate cap +candles, tucked in bed in winter in an acoustic-isolated room...AHH!

>>40758880
If you aren't doing this on every thread on /x/ you're a shitty troll.
I don't like that schizo meme but your fake "I have to save them all!" play makes you glow.

>>40733041
I have once and only once manifested an object legitimately out of thin air (or rather thin water).
I was in Italy on the beach, standing in about mid-chest depth water, just completely relaxed and chilling.
I remember I was completely empty handed, having swum around to get to that point to take a little break and enjoy the sun.
All of the sudden I had an overwhelming belief:
"I wonder how far I can throw this rock in my hand?"
I brought my right hand up and I had a rock in it.
Again, I had nothing in my hand, I was just standing in the water catching my breath after swimming a few laps. Then, I raised my arm and I was clutching a rock.
This was years and years ago, I have never done anything like it since.
I think they key was that I didn't even believe, it was a level beyond that, I just knew with 100% certainty that I had the tool for the job clutched in my right hand.

It was like when you wake up in the morning. You know that for you to have woken up that morning, you 100% did not die in your sleep, no shit because obviously you are alive right now.

I think if you go beyond belief and just absolutely know that something is true, then it will be true.
I think it is important to mention too that you have to be in a state of complete subconsciousness. I had zero other thoughts going on, I just suddenly knew I was going to throw that rock, and obviously I had a rock to throw already, because I was already going to throw it.

To deviate from the other posters in this thread, I do not think it would be possible to manifest something tangibly useful with such a method.
The complete detachment from the world that was required in that moment would probably be broken if you asserted that you were going to raise a gold bar out of the sea instead of a regular ass rock that only existed because your subconscious had intended to throw it.

>>40758836
Ah yes, the classic "A literal god would like and do the things that I like and nothing else".
Are you the kind of person that lives doing things to proof yourself to them too?

>>40759038
> I think if you go beyond belief and just absolutely know that something is true, then it will be true.

To add to this (I am the OP of this post), I think it also has to be a condition that is exclusively true to you and you only.

For example, that rock only existed for me from the moment it was in my hand, until I opened my hand and it was open to the rest of the world.

Something like gaslighting someone into 100% believing the laws of thermodynamics did not exist would not work because there are hundreds of thousands of people every single day focusing their consciousness towards the observation and study of these laws in classrooms, physics labs, and otherwise.

Yes I know the appearance of this rock in my hands 100% violated the laws of thermodynamics, and I do not understand how this works, but I think it has to do with a sentient observer. If even one other consciousness is or will become aware of the change when it happens, then it cannot happen because their consciousness will interfere with the outcome of the event.

This is also why I think manifestations that involve money magically appearing in a digital sense do not work, as a system administrator somewhere will be pinged the moment a number stops being that same number without a good reason in a high stakes environment like the bank that owns the checking account into which you are manifesting money.

Basically what I am trying to say is you can manifest literally anything, but only in the isolation of the consciousness which is directly attempting the manifestation. If another consciousness becomes aware of the manifestation before it has taken place, then their observation of the event will disrupt the outcome.

>>40759187
or in a really long convoluted way, you can manifest any outcome, but the specific means through which it reaches you are indeterminate due to the fact that you would need to interfere with multiple conscious observers to go through your chosen method.

>>40758836
No one in this thread is settling on a billion or a million dollars.
The greatest manifestation you will find here is Mother-anon manifesting himself buying something from a supermarket.

>>40759027
Don't get me wrong dude. I would like to think this stuff is real. I like the idea of LoA. And I entered it, like many with the intent of getting back an SP.

reminder that the contents of the thread you experience is also a manifestation of your beliefs

>>40759187
>>40759209
Or you could drop the complexity addiction and just believe.

>>40759728
Pretty sure the anon in the first quote is the "you don't need belief " retard that was writing essays about how you can't do something is someone doesn't tell you you can and called knowing and knowledge "an emotion" so you're wasting your time telling him that.