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Christian Esotericism is the inner and/or mystical aspect of the Christian Religion, it includes:
>Christian Gnosis (Clement of Alexandria)
>Desert Fathers Spirituality (Evagrius Ponticus)
>Catholic Contemplative Tradition (Bonaventure)
>Hesychasm (Gregory Palamas)
>Chivalry (Wolfram von Eschenbach)
>Christian Alchemy (George Ripley)
>Rhineland Mysticism (Meister Eckhart)
>Christian Cabala (Johannes Reuchlin)
>Paracelsianism (Paracelsus)
>Rosicrucianism (Robert Fludd)
>Christian theosophy (Jakob Böhme)
>Martinism (Louise Claude de Saint-Martin)
>Swedenborgianism (Swedenborg)
>Magical Idealism (Novalis)
>Romanticism (Baader)
>Anthroposophy (Rudolf Steiner)
>Sophiology (Sergei Bulgakov)
>Christian Hermeticism (Valentin Tomberg)
>Fourth Way (Boris Mouravieff)
>Christian Traditionalism (Jean Borella)
>Divine Love (James Padgett)
And much more, so let's continue to talk about it!

>Resources (WIP)
https://www.john-uebersax.com/plato/cp.htm
https://jacobboehmeonline.com/
https://archive.org/details/awakening-to-divine-wisdom-christian-initiation-into-three-worl-nodrm_202202/mode/1up
https://janelead.org/resources.html
https://archive.org/details/bookofcontemplat00unde/
https://archive.org/details/rudolf-steiner-book-collection/
https://swedenborg.com/bookstore/free-ebooks-downloads/
https://www.gornahoor.net/?page_id=47
https://archive.org/details/meditations-on-the-tarot/
https://files.catbox.moe/8n4061.djvu (Meditations on the Tarot)
https://eliasartista.substack.com/
https://passtheword.org
https://catenabible.com/mt/1

>>40735785 (OP)
Previous thread https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40657853/

how does reading those 10000 books suddenly make the bible make sense?

or is this some sort of bible independent christianity you talking bout?

>>40735809
The Bible makes perfect sense.
Those 10,000 books though?
Probably trash.

>>40735809
There can be no Bible-independent Christianity, and these books are there for personal development

I got done with a 4 day fast on the 14th at 3:33 PM. But i must say that fasting has made God change me. That and getting off my meds.
Not only do i have trouble having the same innocent fun i used to have with my creativity but food gives me aa disgust and my sex drive is gone as well as my anger getting replace with a sense of sorry. (I am feeling rage filled anger again.) I am seeing all this as signs from God.
I should give context for over a decade now i have been dealing with wrath, lust and gluttony. Now i know that God is healing it, as well as giving me signs about my creativity that i am honestly struggling with. And to be more honest, i don't feel anything except sorrow for myself and the world. I need a spiritual guide and a dream interpreter.

Why is it that whenever i try to reach out to people to help me there's no one who will help? This happens every time. I know there are people who can help but no one does. Why? What is God trying to tell me?

>>40736058
What meds? Is it a good idea to be off them?

>>40736204
Prozac.

>>40736216
For depression? Trying to get off meds is understandable, but don’t let your spiritual pride get in the way of getting the help you need. Even with the guidance of God you still need to use the tools at your disposal, because God works through these things, and that includes people. I do recommend getting professional help to monitor you getting off meds, as a safeguard in case things start getting dangerous in terms of your mental condition, explain to them that you want to get off meds and why with full honesty so that they can best help with your situation

>>40736290
I was told it was for OCD. I was given meds for something they were not made to help with.
But i do give thanks and appreciate your concern.

>christian thread full of mentally ill on drugs

>>40736405
Your point being?

>>40736456
I'm having flashbacks from r/christianity

>>40736467
But Christianity is a religion that advocates for traditionally neglected religion, such as the mentally ill. Why do you think it needs some sort of pride?

>>40736497
Because christianity online is full of
>help me I masturbated and feel guilty please pray for me posts

God judges you for everything
Christ only judges you on your faith so that you can be purified in front of God.

Faith is a personal issue, I can't pray that a person stop feeling guilty for something. They can only stop feeling guilty for something when they finally believe that Jesus forgave them through the gospel of salvation.

>>40736514
Ok, but why look down on people for being mentally ill and taking drugs to manage that?

>>40736555
I'm not looking down on them. I am saying the only way to help them is by offering the gospel to them. They can go to a doctor to get expert help on managing their mental health.

>>40735785 (OP)
Blake's poems and prophecies are some of the greatest Christian mystical writings of the modern era. America: A Prophecy predicted the course of post-Enlightenment history with startling accuracy; his only mistake was believing that Orc's global revolution would be freeing rather than a greater subjugation.

>>40735785 (OP)
Videos on Gnosis, its various types (SPG, UPG & VPG) and Gnosticism:

https://youtu.be/0F7knBtLsNs
https://youtu.be/260L-DEZVQ0
https://youtu.be/diHf_Tup6tE

>>40735852
>The Bible makes perfect sense.
I disagree.
>>40736043
seems pretty useless to me, when the foundation is corrupt in the first place

>>40736634
I agree, he was a theosopher
>>40736730
>when the foundation is corrupt in the first place
Outing yourself as uneducated so soon already?

>>40736634
>Orc's global revolution
That would only help the beast system accelerate, wage war against the saints and embodies opposition to divine truth.

Thesis - revolution energy striving for freedom
antithesis- becomes bound and corrupted, echoing how revolution can morph into new forms of oppression

Synthesis- Orc's fall and rebirth the to and fro movement of the serpent towards higher consciousness.

The beast system is not redeemed when Jesus returns it is condemned and destroyed immediately so that it can't come back.

I come with a message from God. One to be spread as far as whoever reads it can spread it.
There is a spiritual war going between the forces of God and the forces of satan.
We are unable to see it but we are all apart of it, and I know that there are those who feel it.
I come to you all to say that we can fight, we have power in this war and that power is prayer.
The angels are fighting for us and the blessings they and God want for us are being blocked by the evil they fight against.
So please, to all who are reading this, use your powerful weapon of prayer against all evil spirits as prayer is so mighty in the world of the spiritual.
And let us pray for power and victory, not just for us, but for the angels fighting hard to save us from all the evils that bring to us and with us harm.
May this message be spread across the world in God's Holy name and in God's Holy will.
In the powerful name of all that is Holy, The Holy Spirit, our Abba Father God and Jesus Christ Amen, Amen and Hallelujah.

>>40737269
Nice message anon, although I wonder how you would have received it from God, as you claim.

>>40738342
God sends messages through thoughts, we just need to know how to discern them from thoughts of ourselves and thoughts of devils.

>>40737269
There are no victors in war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Wfkh7U1wI

>>40735785 (OP)
Take the Stormpill.

The Storm God.

Yahweh/Jesus is the Storm God.

ᛋᛋ Cult of Storm ᛋᛋ

The Religion of the Aryan Storm God:

https://odysee.com/@Das_Syndikat:3/Chaoskampf-Donnergott:a?lid=202486f5bba9907a17239545830e09ad361a3189

https://youtu.be/asrNETl_Css&t=626

https://odysee.com/@Das_Syndikat:3?view=playlists

Hail JeZeus!

Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaoskampf
https://mythos-and-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Chaoskampf

>>40739437

>>40738915
This is the war of God vs satan and it is written in prophecy that Jesus will claim victory for all that is good and Holy.

>>40739667
you really should take your prozac again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEzSUDxZTFM

https://berkshistorymysteries.wordpress.com/2018/05/03/mountain-mary-the-medicine-woman-of-the-oley-valley/

>>40739680
I feel sorry for, i will give you a prayer.

>>40740024
And I'll pray you start taking your medicine again

>>40740590
Same

https://berkshistorymysteries.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/book-review-powwowing-among-the-pennsylvania-dutch/

>>40737269
Thanks for reminding me of one of the core aspects of the Gospel, Anon. May God bless you too, and may good rein triumphant over evil. Amen.

>>40739437
Any attempt to mix Christianity with Nazism is retarded. Jesus was a Jewish god and Christianity is a Jewish religion. Even if you believe in Jewish deicide, you must admit you are still worshiping a Jew.

Because of Germanic Superiority, you should be worshiping Odin, or some shit.

>>40735785 (OP)
https://eliasartista.substack.com/p/the-stone-which-the-builders-refused
New post after a long time

I bought Swedenborg's Heaven and Hell. I don't agree with his anti-trinitarianism or his view of scripture, but certain ideas of his fascinate me. What am I in for?

>>40743667
You'll be in for:
>I don't agree with his anti-trinitarianism or his view of scripture, but certain ideas of his fascinate me.
From beginning to end
Don't worry, he isn't authoritative, unless you're part of the Church founded based on his ideas, which you aren't, just read the text, don't try to be too harsh, try to interpret what he writes correctly, and you'll get more out of him than what you are expecting

>>40735785 (OP)
esoteric mormonism

>>40743818
Mormonism is already esoteric

>>40743667
Swedenborg is anti-trinitarian? I may have to check him out.

>>40735809
It makes sense apparently but it's literally a topology that exists in a higher dimension. Category theory, cohomology and differential geometry do already grasp the notion but only in a superficial manner.
>source?
-It was revealed to me in a dream
-See Rudolf Otto, Das Helige

>>40742665
That was amazing. Thank you.

>>40743999
Thanks, and nice trips!
I'll post a bunch of shorter ones in quick succession tomorrow onwards, since i have spent a bit too much time looking a certain topic recently

>>40740590
Those were spiritual blocks like all big pharma. I suggest looking up what prozacs are for anyway

>>40743682
That's reassuring, thanks anon. I do want to delve deeper into correspondences and his cosmology, they already resonate with me pretty deeply. My one question I still have about him is, if this information is true, how did he obtain it? I fundamentally refuse to deny the Trinity, so I just can't believe his claim of being a divinely-appointed Prophet. Maybe he did receive a genuine spiritual vision, but he misinterpreted parts of what he was shown due to his own preconceived theological notions. Idk, I still haven't actually read him directly, so I guess I'll get a better grasp of it once I get the chance to read the book.

>>40743926
Yeah, he's a believes that the Trinity describes three parts of one God (ie the Partialist heresy) and that all three of these "parts" are contained within Lord Jesus Christ. I find this doubtful, and I'd highly recommend you reconcile with Nicene Christianity.

>>40744844
>I'd highly recommend you reconcile with Nicene Christianity.
Nah.

>>40742325
Amen brother and apologies for not noticing your post sooner.
God bless you.

>>40744844
Basically not all visions and mystical experiences are fully true and good, some, well, most, are mixtures of truths and falsehoods, Louis Claude de Saint-Martin martin calls those "Astral Visions", above them are the visions that are 100% true, but the astral ones are to be discerned properly as they also contain falsehoods, an example would be, Jane Leade had many astral visions, which her precursor John Pordage and her contemporary Johann Georg Gichtel didn't, and that's why she strayed from their thought

While talking to my friend about a project that was giving me weird feelings i had a breakthrough and poured out my very heart and soul full of realizations about the project and myself. I had a blessing from God.

>>40744844
>>40745880
Hold on guy, there's something i want to share with you two, a prophetic dream, i just spent all night writing it down but i have yet to write down my interpretation of it. I have it saved so i will copy/paste it all when i am done with it after i sleep. It's a long one so it will have to be posted in multiple parts. I make this post to inform you guys about this and to keep the thread alive so i can post my prophetic dream and my interpretation of it here. Goodnight.

>>40735785 (OP)

>>40748531
Bumping to give anon time to share their dream details.

>>40735785 (OP)
Who made this thread and why? Is there a FAQ? I'm really interested in how this thread explains the deviation in canon; to an academic standard worthy of publishing a paper.

Did you know that Rigpa can be translated to English as Gnosis?

>>40749473
>Who made this thread
Me
>and why?
Fun
>Is there a FAQ?
Not really, but if you have any questions feel free to ask
>I'm really interested in how this thread explains the deviation in canon
What do you mean by that?
>to an academic standard worthy of publishing a paper
None of us are academics -in this field- so we won't post any peer reviewed studies any time soon, but we do read academic material

>>40749670
is there someplace i can reach to you on a real-time messaging platform like biscord with a d? id like to ask a hundred questions. ive been researching intensely recently, with the advent of gemini and grok, notebookllm; etc; basically there is an angel named Mastema and he works as an accuser under Gods permission, and then theres the father who is Zeus, and Jesus, thor, who will return to kill Jorgmandur the dragon from the sea, a different ancient satan.
do you practice any magic? how can we consolidate the warnings from Paul, warning against the use of sorcery?
Are there any modern day writings you believe are divinely inspired?
Whats your opinion on the book of mormon?
whats your favorite movie?

>>40749710
>id like to ask a hundred questions
Why not just use this thread for that?
>gemini and grok
Those are only good for surface level research
>Mastema
Yes Mastema is an angel from the Book of Jubilees
>the father who is Zeus, and Jesus, thor
Here you're mixing greek myth with Christianity, you cannot identity Zeus with God the Father, unless you're thinking of Zeus as the one true "Theos", God, like in Middle Platonism and in Gemistos Plethon, Jesus and the Germanic Thor are unrelated, Thor fights Jörmungandr in the medieval Christian Eddas from Iceland, but that's seen as a "Chaoskampf" a scholarly term for identifying various similar myths throughout the world, a similar motif also exist in Japan where Susano-o battles Yamata no Orochi, it boils down to "Storm guy fights chaos snake"
>do you practice any magic?
No, i was interested, but my interest in it has declined, prayer is superior
>Are there any modern day writings you believe are divinely inspired?
No
>Whats your opinion on the book of mormon?
Mormons are good people but they believe in a false religion
>whats your favorite movie?
Don't have one

>>40749822
I don't think that the people in Theos are even sufficiently remotely close to those who were worshipping the non-Theos religion so to say.

>>40749903
Any manifestation of monotheism in Greece, meaning Platonism, Aristotelians, originates from Greek paganism and a pagan background

>>40749256
Thank you.
>>40748531
Just going to copy/paste what i have saved.
>>40744844
>>40745880
I would love for you guy to take a look at my prophetic vision based on a dream i once had
I had the dream in September of last year when i was 25, i am now 26. Parts of the dream i am going to post is copy/pasted from what i told a friend a month after having the dream in October while parts of it will be updates, important context that i didn't think was too important back then that i am now realizing i should add after recently think about it. This dream also happened before me and my family got a new dog so she's not in this one.
Now for the dream. Keep in mind that all of the extra context is from months old memories but by the mighty will of God i am 100% confident that this is completely accurate to the dream that i had, a dream i know to be prophetic.
Pic related is what i told of the dream to family and friends in case anyone wants a comparison between the first time i shared my dream and this improved update. (Spoiler alert)
I will also be posting images that relate to the respective parts of the dream, they won't be exact but i hope it gives the right ideas while reading.(1/15}

>>40750086
>The Dream
My dream starts in my dad's bedroom, all i remember of his bedroom is that it felt like a dark void, all i could see was his bed, the same one he has outside of my dream.
I could still feel other objects and floors but i could not see them in the void, i could only see the bed, my dad, who was very ill and filled with so much sorrow, was sleeping on it, in a coma like state, and my older dog sitting on it guarding him from evil spirits and demons and i could feel my younger dog by my side looking after him as well.
During my dream my body was smaller and much more thin than i am with more and longer hair in a different style, like I was a teen again, and i was wearing some scavenger outfit.
Watching my dad in this state i didn't want to leave him but i had to get his medicine so i left my dad and older dog, trusting her with his protection and life, and somehow left the bedroom void through a small door going outside.
My younger dog, a male black and white shih tzu, came with me and my older dog, a female light brown wheatenpoo, stayed behind to protect my dad. (Both of my dogs are no longer with us in the material world)
My older dog who stayed behind to protect my dad, sat still on his bed at his feet serious and proud, facing in the direction in front of the bed, staring at the wall of the void, on high alert for any and all danger, ready to fight for the safety of my dad.
My younger dog who came with me was so happy to be by my side again and happy to help my dad, but he could only be by my side in a phone like device i had resembling a 2000s cell phone but was made to contain souls to travel with us.
In the phone like device my dog was tiny, green and digitized like an old virtual pet game, but it was still him and he loved being in there as he was by my side. (2/15)

>>40749971
What's paganism for one people is paganism for another. What you're talking about is an interconnected world with each other, trading religious experiences, and modern day people, us, attempting to reconciliate their history based on the notion that they're all distinctly bringing down the same amount of understanding regarding words connected to phrases; connecting "an idea that isn't particularly lacking in love so to say, for me"
The idea of angels and demons are corroborated by the actual event in which there is a source of life breathing into what I coin are spirit-clusters, places in which the invisible can gather and wander, after they died on the planet, suffering a terrible fate; the fate of having been born of a forbidden marriage, human and angel.

Both of these belong in different places, wandering earth is the middle ground for the poor souls as their fathers wage war against the elect by which the most Humble one would so as ever grant to his creation and sons. Of course I'm talking about Jesus.

>>40750128
>Of course I'm talking about God*

>>40750117
When i exited my dad's bedroom i stepped into underground tunnels that me, my family, and many others called home, the tunnels resemble a sewar system, but with no water or sewage flowing anywhere, a safe haven protecting people from the evils of the world, not much of what's left of humanity lives there, the world has went through a great tribulation, quite possibly the next great reset, and the worldwide population has lowered greatly, feels like the population of the world lowered back to what is was during the time of feudal Japan.
Somehow i ended up above ground while exploring the tunnels due to a little adventure that i completely forgot what happened during it.
The only thing about the little adventure i vaguely remember is crawling through some sort of vent like structure, looking at and panicking with my dog in a phone after witnessing something we were not supposed to see, a hidden evil that snuck into our safe haven, i also do not remember what it was, all i recall is that at least 1-4 people were involved, mostly men, at least one of them were female, they were doing sinful deeds but i can't remember the specifics, if i had to make a guess based on what i do remember it had something to do with satanic experimentation. (3/15)

>>40750137
I jumped into a big hole connecting to the tunnels using scraps and vehicles, such as what seemed to be a school bus, as stairs/ramps.
I landed onto the table of a trader who was selling scrap, junk, etc from the outside.
The trader is a young seemingly teen girl and if i recall correctly she's a dirty blonde, wearing your average armoured trader get up, helmet of sorts included, and she had dirt on herself, including her face.
She got surprised and was shocked and i tried to apologize but i couldn't say anything cohesive for some reason so i left. (4/15)

>>40750086
I still have to spend some time sorting through the rest of this dream (and presumably there will be more detail as you continue posting), but I just wanted to say that when I was in my early teens, I also had a dream where a monstrous Patrick Star was chasing me through a hallway of my house. I just thought that was too weird a coincidence to not mention.

>>40750158
I went down some stairs a the side of the tunnels and went through a door where i came into a realm, a void, like walking out of bounds in a video game and looking into all the room from the outside.
In this realm were lots of floating star demons, all varied in color, with the faces of Patrick Star, swimming in the air as if mimicking how they thought a real starfish moves and when one noticed me it began chasing me, and when more noticed, more chased, and from the points of their top three limbs, or what I assume to be parts of their bodies mimicking the limbs of starfish, they were shooting at me, a weird green substance, best described as some combination of laser beams and goo, an odd form of matter not of this world and they were shooting it at me from their mimic starfish limbs with the intent to kill.
While being chased and avoiding being noticed by more of them i looked at my dog in a phone to guide me out of there, he knew the out.
When i found my way back to where i came from i shut the door behind me, while taking a break i was panting and looked at my dog in a phone to see him celebrating, that made me giggle with a big smile on my face. (5/15)

>>40750164
I went back to exploring the tunnels where i finally found a pharmacy, it was so big and white, the shelves too were big and white, it was mostly empty of any products and it looked like a mess looking like it was hit by a tornado.
I walked into the pharmacy and working there in the middle of this giant room were four Asian women of different ages, using a fallen and destroyed smaller normal sized white shelf laying on its side as a checkout desk.
They were talking but then i showed up asking for the medicine, they gave me odd looks as if i did something to offend them.
But they did give me the medicine i needed in a medicine bag and for free, although the woman who gave it to me was seemingly the oldest, possibly in her 40s, had a stern look on her face.
The other three are seemingly an adult and two teens-young adults where standing aside, one looking at me and the older woman with a plain look on her face.
The other two holding each other's arms looking back and forth at us and each other with confused and/or worry on their faces.
So i took the medicine and walked away with an awkward feeling as the four Asian women continued to stare, as i was walking out of the pharmacy someone appeared from behind one of the big shelves greeting me, catching me by surprise i was shocked to see that it's my mom. (6/15)

>>40750176
Me and my dog in a phone were so happy to see my mom, but i was also confused as she was so happy with a big smile on her face, she was talking and acting like she always does but, sadly, she was in denial about the state of the world around her.
She started talking about shopping in the pharmacy as if it wasn't destroyed, checking out products that were either damaged, didn't exist or something else entirely, planning on taking them to the front checkout that is no longer there, even my dog in a phone was concerned about her.
As we were walking towards the exit through the rubble and wreckage of the pharmacy things were normal again, me and my mom were talking about stuff i don't remember and my dog in a phone is happy again now that my mom is having normal conversation, he's so happy to be with us.
My mom asked how my dad is doing so i told her the state that he's in and that our older dog is looking after him and i showed my mom the bag i was holding with the medicine.
I was still worried for my dad but my mom wasn't worried though, she was still happy because she was filled with hope, telling me to not be worried as everything is going to be fine, especially with the dogs being with us again to help and protect us, i felt better because i believe her. (7/15)

>>40750196
Then she asked me about my brother, how my little brother is doing, i then received a vision in my dream, an image that flash before my eyes of my brother with his girlfriend around his left arm, they were standing in a doorway made of your usual light brown wood and the walls were peridot green, the wall had decorations but i do not recall what is was, my brother and his girlfriend were both looking at me with big smiles on their faces.
After having that image flash in my dream i knew why my mom was in so much denial, why my dad was in such sorrow, my brother was dead, i don't know why but he and his girlfriend were dead, it felt like everyone knew it, even my dogs knew it, everyone knew it but her.
I wanted to tell my mom, but i couldn't, i tried but i didn't have the heart to tell her so i stayed silent, eventually my mom started talking about something else.
This next paragraph of my dream is a part I remember vaguely and is fuzzy in my memory but, during this point in the dream there were a small group of old ladies, i don't remember how many there were but they were sitting at a small blue table in small blue chairs like a plastic table set for kids, they where doing the usual old lady stuff like tea with cookies and knitting but they stopped everything they were doing, they were frozen, silently watching me and my mom with sad faces because they too knew exactly what was going on and they were waiting to see what i'd do with the truth. (8/15)

>>40750221
It was during this time when i was wondering how my brother and his girlfriend die, i knew they died together but i didn't know how and i was trying to remember how it all happened, this was the moment a realization hit me, one of those realizations stemming from a memory of the waking world that almost makes one realize that they are in a dream.
I realized that my brother's girlfriend in my dream wasn't his current girlfriend, it was his ex, but his current girlfriend was nowhere to be found, like she was erased from history, so now, while we were walking towards the exit, i hear my mom talking to me but not listening as i am too busy being confused, wondering what happened to my brother's current girlfriend, if she was alive, dead or even exists, why my brother is with his ex are together as if they never broke up and how they died.
When we were nearing the exit, with all of this in my mind, but it was short lived as all of a sudden I was lifted into the air in the speed of light, my dog in a phone and medicine bag phased through my hands before i phased through the ceiling and the ground above out of the pharmacy, out of the tunnels and being dragged all the way to space by a force unlike any other, i was now that of a spirit above the Earth, where i had forgotten all that i was thinking about and was made to focus on what i was being shown. (9/15)

>>40750250
Whoever dragged me to space wanted me to witness the Earth, to witness the state of the world, ruined and swarmed with demons and evil spirits, filled with darkness both figurative and literal, with safe havens where what's left of humanity hides.
I was then flown to another safe haven, somewhere more far away from the tunnels I called home, and it was being attacked by demon, they were all big shadow like creature taking forms of all sorts of shapes and sizes with eyes pure red looking like they crawled out of some kind of cartoon, but people were fighting back, like how humanity fought back against demons and evil spirits in ancient times, i was then put there to fight against the demon, learning how to defeat them with an natural instinct, it was all so natural to me like i was fighting with my natural warrior spirit, my true nature, my body even became bigger and muscular to better fit this role.
And throughout all this the voice of the one who brought me here was explaining to me how important it was to slay the demon and even teaching me more than just my natural instincts, and although his voice was a faint whisper, even though i could not properly hear his words, my very soul understood everything he was saying. (10/15)

>>40750311
It was hectic, it was chaotic, but this too was short lived as soon after it began I was flown off to another safe haven, this time a huge, huge, huge mass of farm land, i was placed kneeled down onto the corner of a field of crops, close behind me to my left was a nice big farm house, and by body changed again, I was thin like before but this time i was much smaller, like i was a kid again.
I was then learning again, but not with a natural instinct this time but pure teachings from the one who brought me here, and again his words i could not hear my soul understood, so i followed his instructions, i dug a hole with my hands, planted a seed and gave it water, he then gave me gardening tools and i used them on the dirt. (11/15)

>>40750324
As green started to grow out of the dirt I was lifted back into the air and i was surrounded by clouds, and skies like ocean, and right next to me, to my right, was a giant, the man who brought me here, the one who showed and taught me so much, i wanted to see what he looks like, but i couldn't, i was unable to look up at his face, i could only see his robes, so i grabbed onto those robes and started climbing, i climbed all the way to his left shoulder and there i looked at his face, and the man i was looking at, was Jesus.
I was staring into the face of Jesus Christ himself, he looks like how i imagined but so much more, he looked like how he is usually depicted, but his flesh, the color of his skin was nothing of this world, his skin was pure white with pure black stripes, like one of those so smooth statues and fountains at a museum, like God sculpted him from the purest of marble.
I was stunned with amazement, the glory was unexplainable, Jesus Christ right in front of me, so much i wanted to say, so must i wanted to tell him, so much i wanted to ask him, but i couldn't, no matter how hard i tried i could move my mouth, i couldn't move my body, there i was on Jesus' left shoulder, stuck in a Holy trance where all i could do is stare into his beautiful face, all this lasted for just a few seconds.
And that's when i woke up. (12/15)

>>40750331
>The interpretation
And now how i interpret the dream. I posted this on another thread sometime last week so i will copy/paste it with a few updates based on thinking deeper into the dream while writing all this. (13/15)

>>40750336
The world will get better but sadly not everyone will survive. There will be another great reset and there will be mass sorrow and denial as those who survive will have lost at least one of there loved ones, the population will decrease to under 1 billion, somewhere between 150-500 million people worldwide, give or take.
The society we know now will be moved underground, no cities, but underground suburban life with stores such as pharmacies to give meds to the sad and sick and traders under the big holes connecting above ground, where there is miles upon miles of farmland and returning nature, but there will be evil that manages to sneak into safe havens.
This will also be a highly spiritual time as the walls between our world and the spiritual world are shattered, our loved ones who died before the great reset, including pets, will help us, able to communicate in special areas or through certain technology, but sadly those who died during or after the reset will be lost to us.
And above ground there will be evil spirits, such as demons, and humans will have to learn how to defeat them like our ancestors did in ancient times.
During this time the world will be watched over by the Heavens, including Jesus himself, who will communicate with people and he will be larger than life. (14/15)

>>40750344
So that's my dream and interpretation. What are your guy's thoughts on all this? (15/15)

>>40750162
That is strange, thanks for sharing this information.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a common teaching to be found between Wesley, Swedenborg, and Blake. All three were fervent empiricists, all three claimed transformational spiritual experiences, all three had these experiences during roughly the same time period (the Eighteenth Century), and all three highly emphasized both loving action and love as the divine image. There's something going on here, I think I'll have to do a cross-reading of all three to find more common threads.

I just read over my dream and i want to apologize for all the weird wordings and typos, especially in the later half of it. It was late at night, i was tired and was rushing myself, and while posting all of it i was rushing again with excitement. I am sorry. Although i know that people will still understand the words i posted so i might just be worrying over thing so small huh? Heheh.

>>40743667
you're in for a man afflicted by demonic delusions with the purpose of leading men onto the wrong path. read Seraphim Rose's The Soul after Death. He speaks about this.

>>40735785 (OP)
i hate the dispensationalist heresy

>>40749822
how can prayer be superior to magick if the latter is so much more immersive and sophisticated from psychological perspective?

>>40751627
Spiritual>psychological.

>>40751627
>the latter is so much more immersive and sophisticated from psychological perspective?
And the Sacraments are much more immersive and sophisticated than any magical ritual

>>40735809
The only way to be a christian is to read the bible yourself. Don't be influenced by these large ' Christian ' Organised religions that have been deceived in the 'Truth'
Why do you think there are so many branches, they've all been deceived. They take advantage of people who are too lazy to actually read the bible or can't comprehend themselves.

>>40752170
never reply to me again, schizo
thanks and God bless though

>>40752170
Truth.

>>40751627
Prayer and magick are one in the same in that they're both tools and methods to reach the divine in you, external to you and everywhere inbetween. Both can be highly immersive experiences if you allow for them to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk2KIvioRvk

https://boomcalifornia.org/2015/12/29/jesus-on-lsd/

>>40755703
prayer requires humility which I have trouble feeling or expressing
ritual and ceremonial theurgy done alone is just cooler, no better words for it
it's more fun, ecstatic, but sometimes I wonder if changing myself to be humbler would be beneficial

>>40756015
You can pray and do magick for Angels, Saints, God(s), Christ, etc. to bring the energy of humility, gratitude, grace into your being. Do so not just once, but over a stretch of time and journal what you feel during the act, along with reflecting on your thoughts and actions over time.

My books arrived, time for some cross-sectional study.

>>40756705
Cool!

https://embassyofheaven.com/

Why do Christians invoke deities other than God to fulfill desires? Like they'll say something like "it's just like asking a friend for prayer" but then will have a whole shrine up for Mary or something which isn't what people do for their friends.

>>40757701
Because Catholicism is plagued by idolatry. It isn't the statues or prayers that are themselves idolatrous (at least, as far as strict Biblical condemnation goes), but the fact that they make offerings to statues of creatures. We are explicitly commanded to worship nobody except God, and insofar as worship means the offering of sacrifices, the Catholic Church and its offerings of flowers to Saint Mary, offerings of money to Saint Anthony and offerings of eggs to Saint Clara are a clear violation of that commandment.

>>40757806

>>40757810

Does anyone know where to find a good dream interpreter?

>>40758522
And they said to him, “We have had a dream, and there is no one to interpret it.” Then Joseph said to them, “Do interpretations not belong to God? Tell it to me, please.” Genesis 40:8, NASB

>>40757701
>whole shrine to up for Mary or something
Catholicism is full of Jewish subversion. It's full of lost sheep. When Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses, us as a group of people, were able to break the old psyops. Modern protestants don't say we are going to pray for mother mary or by x-saint or y-angel to help you. We will speak to Jesus or God. Yes, modern Protestantism has now majority fell to jewish psyops but the books and information are there for you.
>>40750086
>asking for dream interpretation that is 16 posts long but is a "Christian"
You really should take some sort of anti-psychotic or get your shit together quick because I'm pretty sure you're the reason this thread is shit

thank you all for seeking. thank you for trying. we are earnest, we are humble, we are compassionate. god sees all our efforts and feels the joy of a father watching his child try, fail, and try again.

Non nobis dominae, non nobis, sed nominae, tuo da gloriam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTNKUztXoqA

>>40759802
Joseph is also the guy who got out of prison by interpreting dreams.

I'm not sure this is entirely relevant to the thread but I have slowly been getting back into Christianity and I'm at a rough point in life (well, I kind of always have been). I have a lot of medical conditions that I've had forever and I will be going through some intense medical treatment soon and everyone around me knows about it including closest friends and family. My relationships with them isn't perfect and I'm not a perfect person, but no one has really offered anything help or anything like that at all, it's like nothing is happening. This is probably the biggest event of my life, could have very severe side effects and there's just no help or anything from anyone else. Of course I will be praying and looking to God but here on Earth it just seems like I've been abandoned by the people around me. No one offering to help, being there for me,, going out of their way to do something extra or make something easy for me, just nothing. I just feel a bit lost, I am not sure if it's me.

>>40762841
I will pray for you.

>>40764275
>Thinks he can kill God