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This thread is for general discussion of the afterlife, motivated by curiosity and fascination of the afterlife itself, rather than the fear of death.

Any kind of speculation is welcome. Feel free to share your own research or personal anecdotes. Questions are encouraged

>>40740812
That sure is something

I'm convinced the nature of the afterlife is noospheric, the japanese capture this pretty well in their endemic traditions. What i mean by this is that there are realms spawning purely from earth's psychic background, realms supported not only by people's collective consciousness but also animals, plants, minerals. When someone crosses over they lack an anchor (a body), they're just a "psychic signature", so they become heavily affected by this noosphere, they twist and transform. People become confused in a "place" where time can go in all directions and nothing seems linear, including thoughts. This is how "ghosts" come to be in my opinion.

I also think people with strong enough identity and a stable psychic anchor could become coherent beings in that noosphere. But ultimately i think most people would twist and struggle to even keep an ego there. Which is why they probably seek any escape to what it might feel like extreme, tortuous, looping confusion. This is further speculation from my part, but i think there's nothing for us other than that noosphere, that the noosphere loops into life again through a reincarnation method/s. Although the noosphere created by everything that lives on earth (and earth itself) might spawn countless realms.

>>40740806 (OP)
Why do I remember dying yet I'm still here on this fucking retarded earth?

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>https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1125651/m2/1/high_res_d/35-1_4._Matlock.pdf
>Title: Asian Versus Western Intermission Memories: Universal Features and Cultural Variations
>Abstract: We compared features of Asian and Western intermission memories in a sample of 85 published reincarnation cases, 58 from seven Asian countries and 27 from five Western countries. We found non-significant differences on most variables but a highly significant (p < .000001) difference regarding the environment of the after-death state, with Asian subjects more likely to recall an earthly (terrestrial) environment and Western subjects more likely to recall an unearthly (heavenly) environment.
White people go to heaven while Asian people stay on earth

>>40741535
Sorry bro, you didn't remember Blue Eisenhower November

One thing I'm struggling with greatly is premises introduced to be by some Seth texts and I Am The Word. They present the idea this incarnation of you was willingly chosen to exist by a greater you, that this lifetime is essentially a play that you're just focusing super super hard and pushing away all other senses. It could be on of tons of other lifetimes, or maybe just one, maybe your first or maybe your fiftieth. For whatever reason you are here for to experience something.

But what gets me is that all I seem to want and think about is death. The wonders of non physicality excite me and fill me with a huge longing. Even fantasies of becoming billionaire in this world don't compare. I don't desire anything of this world anymore. So then what was the reason I was here then? To learn that I wanted to die again? Or am I a failure who's missed the entire real reason? I do the gateway tapes and try the 5 questions one so often and fail to here anything meaningful. Sometimes I wonder if this was my first every incarnation ever and there's no other info to go back on or is that just all cope. I just wish I knew why I was here and why death seems so damn beautiful to me but so painful to achieve.

I watch a few NDE videos and feel confident about the afterlife, then as time passes I shift back into fear and dread of death and dying. Can't do psychedelics because of my mental health which I know can help cope with death, so I'm stuck in this cycle of feeling okay with death then feeling the worst existential dread back and forth.

>>40742830
>So then what was the reason I was here then?
>I don't desire anything of this world anymore.
You answered your own question.

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>>40742861
There has to be some sort of afterlife. It's completely illogical to think that your consciousness just stops existing when you die.

>>40742861
The NDE stories don't line up too well either. One says they went into a tunnel. Another says they appeared in heaven. Another is just floating over their body. Another is in a black abyss. Another is in a dream tier scenario. Then all of that varies from culture to culture along with the grifters tainting the truth now more than ever.
It's hard to believe any of this, but it's harder to not believe.

Any good books about the afterlife?
I really really liked Mindstar.

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>>40742830
Me too. I have no idea why my "greater me" put me here. I feel "I" was tricked or lied to, I feel no love or attachment towards anybody or anything here. And just a constant feeling of needing to protect myself from parasites.

Read this

I lean towards the "life's a school/test" theory. The life review people get when they pass away makes no sense unless we're being "graded" in some way.

>>40751344
But a test for what? What do we get if we pass or fail?

>>40751686
No idea. From some NDEs they claim we take all the good and love we have accumulated in our lifetime to the afterlife. Whether this is because we're heading to "heaven" or to another stage of life we can't comprehend is still unknown. I just hope we're not just being harvested by demons or aliens.

>>40751344
Life review is just a way to guilt trip you into reincarnating. They need your consent for you to get mind wiped.

>>40751803
Maybe, but most of those reincarnation stories come from people who either passed away too early or weren't good people. You rarely (possibly never?) hear reincarnation stories from a person who had a long, happy, honest life. Being good seems to be necessary when you enter the afterlife for whatever reason.

>>40740806 (OP)
Jurgen Ziewe, multidimensionalman.com
Literally wagmi

>>40752208
I think that reincarnation in that manner is a huge normie cope. Its something done by stupid people with no brains.
Let's say for example you are a massive huge racist. And once dead you start to think that it'd be nice to not have to be so angry at some race all the time and would like to stop having racist thoughts. But fighting your own ego and go into into your memories to find the source of the problem and grow as a person is to hard for these dummies. So somehow the idea of reincarnations comes to mind. That way you don't need to sift through our own ego, you just reincarnate as the life that gives you the exact experiences to help deal with the issue you had after your first death. So after that death you can go oh I get it now because you have pure life experiences to aid in your thoughts.

I don't think you'd necessary need to be good to be able to have a great afterlife. But you need the emotional intelligence and strength to be able to forgive yourself for any things you consider were bad and have the strength to change your own mind for the better. Without needing the lazy 'lol just replace the memories with a better life' way that others might want to take.

>>40740806 (OP)
I've got no fear of what comes after. i feel like I am here for inspiration. I've walked this garden, partaken of its fruits and smelled its flowers, when death comes i will be given soil and seed and tend my own garden.

others may be here for other reasons or purposes, after life may even be a construct of your own soul, every one experiences something different, and those with a strong collective belief are all gathered together for a communal after death existence. I can't speak for others. only myself.

>>40753614
Same

Reality seems to be a dream or manifestation of God and God is experiencing himself through us.

When the body we were using dies, we go back to God.
If our soul grew enough we can stay with God, which seems to be something far, Far better than paradise (a perfect manifestation of earth) or heaven (a reality of such high vibration that everything is almost light).

Until then we will keep having these gay ass unhealthy and retarded lives.

Other more advanced races are aware of this, which is the main reason why they didn't wipe us out and taken our shit. They actually made us to keep evolving and growing, because that also means we contribute to the growth/expansion/apotheosis of God.

God is here, God is watching and God is within us.

>>40753502
You're probably right. Thanks for the insight.

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>>40752308
Beat me to it.

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