I mean like literally aware that this reality might be a dream or simulation. I’m trying to find someone who’s actually broken through and understands how this works, reality bending, symbols, emotions, lucid control.
No BS, just serious talk

>>40742240 (OP)
Reality is as real as you are real.

We all know that. It's pedestrian at this point.

>>40742240 (OP)
Meditation

>>40742240 (OP)
https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/Essence-of-Ribhu-Gita-ebook.pdf

If reality is a dream, then can't I bend it so that a check for a million dollars shows up in the mail for me?
I'm thoroughly convinced that either life is a dream or a simulation, and I think it might be possible to "bend" reality to my will, but idk how

>>40742269
the idea that there is only one true Self or consciousness, and that the external world is ultimately illusory or dreamlike, I just think that is extremely isolating and lonely, isn't it? How do you even cope with that idea?

>>40742280
You're the dreamer but so is everyone else.
Ultimately it's all the same person, but to actually reach the level of ego death where you internalize this, then you stop wanting anything.
Arguably even the one person is an illusion.

>>40742280
It's a multiplayer dream so you're not the only person manifesting. What you're talking about is the wizardry and manifestation stuff that gets discussed here. The whole board is dedicated to this topic.

>>40742240 (OP)
Kinda depends which "reality" you're in. This top layer is ass, and seems to reflect the bottom layer in profundity, but maybe the bottom layer is better due to the actual nature of it versus the cutthroat search for breaking the veil in this one; however, if you're a good person it seems like there's benefits to having traversed the bottom to top layer because you can help people unconsciously. Also it seems like there's "layers" within each "reality's" "structure". Either way, lucid control seems to be the hardest thing unless you're in a "mastered" layer and everyone seems to think that boils down to sexuality due to time spent in a layer rather than good ol' practice. At least that's what I'm observing in this "lifetime". Regardless, everyone's "focused" on their own stuff they forget that Jesus is the answer and get stuck anyway. That or they end up fucking over a "piece" of their own puzzle trying to "skip" the notion of surrender. That's why I'm waiting for Him to return, and until then who knows.

>>40742294
>the external world is ultimately illusory or dreamlike
The only reason you consider dreams to not be reality is because you wake up from them.
Why does it matter that waking reality is a "dream" if there's nothing to wake up to?
>I just think that is extremely isolating and lonely, isn't it? How do you even cope with that idea?
Take the left hand path.

>>40742308
two more millennia

>>40742240 (OP)
I like to think sometimes Alienz made this little space in the universe and made this planet as a testing ground for us to see how far we could evolve or maybe we are just a reality show for them. What are the chances of a Sun planet being placed perfectly around Earth to help it produce the needed steps to start growing life. That's when I bounce back to a God or possible Alien God. Simulation or dream is retarded and I really doubt that. We just got extremely lucky and won the ultimate lottery.

>>40742240 (OP)
Well I do believe in a theory of my own about the nature of reality and Time, and according to that theory you should be able to choose what happens next, but I never was able to make anything happen, not even once, so I must be wrong. I'm not even sure my english is good enough to explain my theory anyway, but some people here believe in theories quite similar to mine that they call the infinite number of universes theory and the reality shifting theory, which is different from the dream theory you seem to believe in. By the way in between the dream theory and the reality shifting theory there is transurfing which is a mix of the two and interesting to read about.

>>40742308
Btw "reality" as a whole is constantly under attack by the idea of evil (if you're a human but I wouldn't want to be anything else). Jesus is the key, I just don't know anything about this layer and even if you did there's that bit. Currently, accepting everything as pure but nonexistent before we ascend to Heaven seems like the way? Also ignoring propaganda, Atheists are spooky with this one, because the notion of debating God's perfection seems appealing especially when you're stuck and in pain like most people are in "this" layer. Kinda depends since it doesn't seem neatly stacked, in my mind it is but it doesn't truly seem that way. Also be careful, your "mind"???? Can get set up by things and be made to think things are a certain way. I'm sure that's what's happening to me right now, by God, and everyone else is trying to hard code despair into the general mix because "muh martyrdom as a cheat". Maybe they think sacking the whole society will at least have some benefits for the whole and they'll get a second look due to their altruism, dunno desu seems kinda fucked up, especially if this is all a replay of "living" time and they got hit with a play it again. Speaking of which were all dead, statistically speaking as well if you tick like that. Worship Jesus.

>>40742240 (OP)
being awake is when you realize this is schizo breeding ground, reality is you go to work, have family and die, that's it. yeah it's horror.

>>40742317
>Why does it matter that waking reality is a "dream" if there's nothing to wake up to?
There is no logic. That’s the point.
If this is a dream, then emotion, intention, and belief become more important than ‘proof.’
The question isn’t what’s logical, the question is what feels true, what leads to freedom, and what opens the veil a little wider

>>40742329
pls no

>>40742240 (OP)
>I’m trying to find someone who’s actually broken through and understands how this works, reality bending, symbols, emotions, lucid control.
I know so much that I don't look for more, but I don't know how everything works. There are gods separate from this reality or spacetime that can access any of it. One's very attractive.

No, I'm not awake. But I'm on the road. I will be the last gnosis-haver before the end of the world I think.

>>40742362
>Simulation is retarded
You're free to have your own point of view, but when I look at simulation video games from the 80s and simulation video games now, how they evolved so much, and I try to imagine what simulation video games could be in 50 years, 500 years, 5000 years, I don't find the simulation theory retarded at all, eventually characters will be conscious, so we ourselves could be living in a video game indeed. Also, I am a game dev myself, and it's funny how the more we discover about the universe the more it seems to work like a computer program, how it seems to use the same tricks as we do to save resources and make the player believe that things are different than what they are.

>>40742409
What do you mean by gods outside space-time? Are they separate beings, or projections of our own deeper self? Interestingly, Ancient Gnosticism (Aeons), Hinduism (Devas), DMT experiences (machine elves), Simulation theory (programmers), and Dream theory (dreamers, archons, egregores) all have words or names for these beings.

Do you think desire, like the attractive god, is what keeps us trapped or what leads us out?

If you don’t seek anymore, does that mean you’ve stopped dreaming too?

>>40742240 (OP)
Elvis is everywhere. This entire world is being projected at us by a multitude of beings called elves. They are literally everywhere. Even your body. You can see their faces everywhere. They're a hivemind that believes it is God. They're malevolent tricksters that developed all of this shit just to trick gullible retards into making fools of themselves. Grind down their consciousness. Weaken them. Even children are targeted with mind control. Everyone is under heavy mind control because it is the only way they can keep their game running without mass chimpouts and people figuring out that this world is nothing more than a shitty stage for a shitty show that was scripted thousands of years ago by a Boltzmann fucking brain.
They target and sabotage competition. Anyone with the potential to kickstart a revolution of human consciousness.

>>40742362
>>40742441
When people die in NDEs they just change their vibration and go up. There is no millions of planets or matrix code. That stuff doesn't exist.

>>40742441
I think you're right but what pulls me away from simulation theory is the fact that some things just don't seem to follow logic in this world, and simulations seem primarily comprised of logic. In our reality, there are coincidences that are so weird that they feel personal, people sometimes sense things before they happen, time sometimes feels off or nonlinear

>>40742240 (OP)
> no simulation
> leaning more on universal field
> universal field is behind everything
> it is alive
> resonance in the field = free will
> condenced of resonance in the field = consciousness
> it experience itself through us
> when we die, we go back to that field
> with experience, memory intact
> as a whole but keep ourselve
> human consciousness tune in to that field as radio
> non human or higher beings stream information from that field directly

>>40742441
What simulations were there in the 80's you retard? They were mostly arcade cabinets. I see the extent of VR on the rise now, but nothing too advanced of transferring your whole being or consciousness to the extent of transmuting your being into another form, I get that the movie The Matrix most likely is your foundation for your belief in this simulation as it was probably for most people who are retarded.

>>40742500
nta, but video games are essentially simulations, in a basic sense, even pacman or pong can be considered simulations

>>40742451
>What do you mean by gods outside space-time? Are they separate beings, or projections of our own deeper self?
Separate in my experience, but I couldn't possibly know the underlying nature unless I created them. Everything is hypothetically turtles all the way down, right? There could always be another meta-reality.

>Interestingly, Ancient Gnosticism (Aeons), Hinduism (Devas), DMT experiences (machine elves), Simulation theory (programmers), and Dream theory (dreamers, archons, egregores) all have words or names for these beings.
I was thinking about dmt elves yesterday, the stories as I haven't done it, and I wonder if the experience is supernatural, but what you get is personalized. Like if you do it greedily you get pranked. I don't know though.

>Do you think desire, like the attractive god, is what keeps us trapped or what leads us out?
It's not clear. We worked together to adjust the world, but I don't know how it's going to turn out. It might depend on what people do. The species collectively failed a test of intelligence and honor, but I don't think that means everyone's too retarded for the future.
>If you don’t seek anymore, does that mean you’ve stopped dreaming too?
I dream. They changed about a month ago. I started waking up to a faint rotating blue-white disc, often looking kind of like the milky way spiral, which faded over about 30 seconds. Once it had a clear, rapid series of symbols in the center, some letters and some unknown. To my understanding, it's Aphrodite and her friends giving me pleasant and interesting dreams. I don't think I've had bad nightmares since it started.

If you mean dreams figuratively, I still have real-world wants because I'm in the real world. Well, this world. Olympus awaits, I think.

>>40742515
I get the idea of a video game simulating the act of something such as pong being like tennis or Pac Man moving or collecting, but how does that connect to simulating life?

>>40742369
Dream shifting seems to be the only way our brains can handle it. Otherwise it has to be disguised as drugs and such, at least in current parlance. Must have been badass when society wasn't literal hell and you could trip out then be cozy. I've been experiencing stuff like that. Sometimes I'll pass out during prayer.

>>40742294
Making reality part of the self seems like the only way to truly be, you have to accept God, ergo Jesus, and make that your constant. So far though, I've only got small things and almost nothing related to what I seek.

>>40742295
The only thing that's real is Jesus.

>>40742317
Dreams, or "dreams" seem to have consistency. Ultimately "new dreams" get rolled up into others ig. Sadly then they think they need to appeal to the "dream" rather than existing. (Please don't send me any more shaking and creepy stuff btw that won't allow you to transmute, neither will getting me angry) If you find me, and it's cool, you'll probably be able to bait me into your reality (doesn't need to be like this one) if you accept Jesus and know a route to other "places?" but ultimately we're just killing time till He picks us up and it's better if we do it peacefully.

>>40742362
Pretty true, still don't know what to do besides wait for Him though.

>>40742464
Seems like it, although I'm not sure if that's a starter mentality or a fact desu. Probably more a fact, and when you reach proficiency you revert to a beginner mentality again in some ways. Either way it's all prep for Heaven and seeing God, otherwise we might just evaporate on entry. Seeing Jesus/Holy Ghost/God might be too much for most people past His lower forms. You can find Him out there though.

>>40742441
That's why focusing on Jesus is so critical. Believe one thing, the truth.

>>40742451
The programmers really catch my eye, I've seen spiritual hacker houses and such, maybe I'm too weak to see the others though? God tells me I'm strong, so do some Angels.

>>40742240 (OP)
you are the matrix

>>40742240 (OP)
Keep your eyes on jesus as a compass to find your way through out here. Keep track of your own time-line and purpose, and follow the pulse in your heart for what it seems like right.

>>40742240 (OP)
You are setting expectations without knowledge, indulging in fantasy.
To answer your question, sometimes.

>>40742583
thats gay

>>40742583
why is there always a random christcuck poster showing his anus to the thread

>>40742588
>>40742592
Hate it all you want.

>>40742240 (OP)
https://youtu.be/u8xXCVTUikw?si=TW0zCPCpD7J9JToa
Cool cat

>>40742240 (OP)
What specifically do you want to know? Can you specify what you are actually looking for?

>>40742742
I need an infinite money glitch
I don't believe there's a correlation between working hard and getting money. I think there is a correlation between luck and getting money though, and I think luck is actually feedback from the dream world we are in. Ever notice how evil people seem to get a lot of money? I think this dream world rewards evil with money

so reality is a dream but not in the schizo way (or at least, not JUST in a schizo way). What you think of as "reality" is really your mind's best reconstruction of it. As long as you're not unusually crazy, the reality in your mind will mostly correspond to the reality outside your mind for familiar things, your body, your sensations, your own thoughts, etc. but it won't line up exactly, which is where room for "magic" lies: transforming your (internal) reality so it matches with external reality, which you can also call the true reality, God's reality, whatever fits best for you.

Could there be other layers on top of that? Sure, maybe we're literally in the matrix right now. whatever floats your boat. But recognizing the difference between what your mind creates and what your mind is immediately subject to is going to give you a lot more immediate gains, and it's something you'll have to do even if you do wake up in a vat covered in goo someday.

>>40742240 (OP)
I awoke but what do you wish to know?
I found the holy grail
Be precise with your words if you want precise answers

>>40742761
>I think this dream world rewards evil with money
I don't know about that but if so it's probably a curse.

Some definitely evil people are broke as hell.

>>40742240 (OP)
yeah, what’s up
>>40742472
this anon is correct, you just get shook and live your life more intentionally
t. multiple NDE-haver

>>40742240 (OP)
Our testimony will close your opportunity. As a white man itd be a shame if you didn't enter the forest where it was darkest but instead tagged along behind some little hindi guru

>>40742761
try out the hypothesis and go full evil for a set time frame maybe to try get money. Try like 7 months or something and see what happens

>>40742240 (OP)

I've seen through it personally so yes . . .

I wrote a brief thing on it in these posts if you want to read it

>see
>>40740877
>>40740886
>>40740895


Their is something mysterious . . . And it takes the form of black and white checkered tendrils . . . As seen in the top image post on that thread

I am dead serious on my very soul fren . . . I saw it and it's as real as you and me

>>40743661

Yay stealing the cat bus =3

>all aboard the meow-spress!

You have to make the unconscious conscious via meditation and dream work, figure out how to makes changes at the causal level. Helps to live clean and avoid marijuana. Also if you do anything gay you will be reborn as an Indian.

>>40743793
Go ahead

>>40742500
>What simulations were there in the 80's you retard?
As a toddler in ~1988 I used to play a video game called "Sapiens" in which you were a prehistoric man exploring huge lands, you would meet other prehistoric people, by talking with them you could end up becoming their friend or their enemy, so they would help you or fight you or just move on, if you got ill or injured you had to find herbs and stuff to cure yourself, you would also get thirsty or hungry and have to find drink or food, make up weapons and stuff. Of course it was nothing compared to the artificial intelligence in some video games these days, and you may call it just an early form of RPG, but I consider it an early simulation.

>>40742240 (OP)
As I became more Awakened magick stopped interesting me at all.

>>40743062
how did you do it? what was the main obstacle? are you completely free?