Do Abrahamics worship Father Time/Saturn and if so, what is the main opposing entity to Saturn?

Great question, so God is
-eternal, perfect, unchanging, always in the present
-the first thing and the last thing
-omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient

You look at these three things and it's hard to say he's not in fact time itself.
No matter how the universe was created, without time, it doesn't get made.
Meaning in any system, God is the creator.
Particularly if time/reality itself as some experiments show it might be.

So yeah the Abrahamic God, I AM may be time itself.

>>40745743 (OP)
Abrahamics worship daddy ultimately and everything they do in analogy to that.

The opposite of Saturn is Jupiter.

>>40745804
If Saturn's time what is Jupiter?
Because when you dig deep into the God of Abraham he's not just time, he's also good and truth.
Limiting him to time is limiting him to cause and effect but we also see Logos manifested in reality as well as a tendency towards goodness (though depressed losers are gonna disagree, it's always possible to experience heaven on earth using your mind)

>>40745743 (OP)
the main opposing enemy which isnt an enemy but a forgotten lover is mother earth your other half
when you hurt some one something you just hurt yourself not being able to see this the whole world goes blind

>>40745804
>The opposite of Saturn is Jupiter.
Not opposite, but he is the one to overcome the devouring father incarnated today as the parasitic elders who seem poised to ensure their children never inherit a world of their own. The divine child Kalki liberates the weakest lamb for the belly of the anti father serpent.

>>40745843
>Jupiter defeats Saturn
>Zeus defeats his father Chronos
>Jesus conquers death after being killed
It's about time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNpQM9TY84

>>40745743 (OP)
I wouldn't call it worship.
I'd call it respect.
Saturn is the goes who goes
"If you throw your trash on thr ground it might not matter, but if everyone starts doing it you end up with picrel."

The Lord of this World is a Nigger. Through Saturn's rings and beyond!

>>40745913
Why do you think so many of us had shitty parents of the same gender who sought to devour our spirit and possess us with their own inner demons? Happy normies can and will never wake up, and try as you might once you see beyond the veil there's no going back.

https://youtu.be/RkvnL2JZIoU
https://genius.com/Abigail-williams-beyond-the-veil-lyrics
>If you know where do look, the modern mystery school codex is inscribed behind dragon roars and animated pixels

>>40745743 (OP)
All the planet bullshit is made up and/or psyops. Even Aphrodite doesn't identify as Venus, the Romans did it.

>>40745743 (OP)
>In the Saturn-Gnosis the planet and archetype of Saturnus is the focal point for the manifestation of the Demiurge. This Demiurge is identified with Lucifer— the Bearer of Light—as the higher octave of Saturn. In this capacity it is the “Guardian of the Threshold” to higher initiation and being.

>According to secret FS teachings, Saturnus is the Great Judge that manifests justice; he also brings reason and intelligence, and governs all standards of weights, measurements, and number. He is the Lord of the Seven Dwellings (= planetary genii of the outer realm), and governor of the revealed world and lord over life and death, and over the light and darkness. Saturnus is seen as the breaker of cosmic order and unity—thus he instituted death, causing regeneration and change to come into being.
>One of the ways in which he broke the cosmic order was in the revelation of divine secrets to mankind. For this he was punished.
https://thegreatwork208716197.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/saturn-gnosis/

>>40745743 (OP)
>Do Abrahamics worship Father Time/Saturn

Do you even know what the word means retard?

Saturn was worshipped in Rome by PAGANS

>>40745821
JOY. TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.

abrahamic religions specifically define god as what cannot be defined, and so the moment you come up with an idea about him that is necessarily a false idea, an idol, and should be stamped out.
If you want an unflattering simplistic view of them its just some guy trying to stretch his brain until the point he literally cannot and then saying that beyond that is god

>>40747284
They worship the wild card? In that case they have a massive skinwalker problem.

>>40745743 (OP)
>Jehovah
>By Jove!
>Jove
>Jovial
>Jupiter
>Dyeus Pater
>Our Father, Who Art In Heaven
They worship Jupiter, my dude.

Well. That or a dead man.

>>40745743 (OP)
When there was a singularity, whatever that is, this was a "moment" before time. Time only existed after the singularity separated. Time is relative. I'm not making fun of you, I love this father time connection, but I don't think you know what time is.

>>40745821
Saturn is Time and Form.
Jupiter is Force/Energy.

Saturn/Time/Form is phenomenon. It is "illusion", is the physical world we see, with its multitude of different forms (trees, rivers, animals, humans etc) and all undergoing time. But underneath the surface/illusion is the noumenal Oneness of Jupiter. This is what Jung was talking about with his collective unconscious and stuff like.

The question is whether the collective noumenal Oneness of Jupiter is actually something good for us humans? Human existence we know, but do we know noumenal Oneness of the hivemind?
At least with the illusory Form world of Time, we get individuality. Collective mind is like the movie "Dark City". They also try to trick people into giving up their form, thus losing their individual spark to rejoin the demon collective.

Saturn is the god of karma. To be reborn on earth is the best option, your good actions get rewarded in next life, same with bad actions. The REALLY bad people don't get reincarnated, they stay forever in noumenal form, haunting and trying to feed off loosh.

This is what Twin Peaks was talking about with the Giant (Titan, i.e. Saturn). Saturn is Binah, symbolized by Water.
Jupiter is Fire, in Twin Peaks represented by BOB and the red dwarf, who manipulated fire and sucked fire out of people (the divine spark).

This is why the entrance to the Black Lodge was in Ghostwood (i.e. Noumenal Woods), the same representation as Yang: an outer shell of white (the dead sycamores) and an inner pool of blackness (the pool of oil). This is why when Windom Earle drank from the pool of the Black Lodge, his face became white as death and his teeth black. He had become another denizen of Ghostwood, on his way to becoming another Bob (which is just a trick of Bob, all Bob does is devour people stupid enough to want to "be One" with him)

This is why there's so much anti-Saturn hate on 4chan, because this place is crawling with the collective demons/Jupiterans

>>40747427
Jove /=/ Remphan

Just because they kept the name doesn't mean it's the same god behind it.

>>40747488
I like this distinction but force creates time, maybe they are interpretations of the same thing

>>40747515
>but Force creates Time
but notice i said that phenomenon is illusion, and that underneath it is noumenal/Jupiter reality. The issue is that it's a hell reality, a demon realm. There's no getting rid of that, spirits are eternal and all that.
So what happened was a segment of that collective (call it the Lorkhan alliance, or the Demiurge) broke away from the demons and created physical realm of time, individual consciousness. It's still tied to Force, as you say "force creates time", yes, because everything originated in Force, but it was hell (or became hell after the war in heaven).
So now Demiurgic realm of earth is like a refugee camp, and noumenal realm of hell is where people go to when they die, but then are reborn once (good people most likely sooner than others, really bad people take much longer to reincarnate)

>>40747541
>>40747488
but, it's always possible i have it all backwards :P
Gnostics seem to have taken that opposite view, that Form (physical matter) was evil and we're meant to escape it back to spirit oneness. I could sorta see it both ways to be honest.
There's evidence going both ways.

>>40745743 (OP)
No saturn is Chronos the opposite of Christ

>>40747488
Its not like that, Saturn is linearity and perception, Jupiter is the external frame of reference.

>>40745743 (OP)
Romans thought they worshiped the sky
Egyptians said they worship chaos

honestly "force creates time" is an incorrect statement on my part, but they have a relationship as time is just the rate of change created by some force, like they are two names for part of the same process scientifically speaking

>>40747600
>Form (physical matter) was evil
No man! look at the drugs I can do and the kids I can rape this is heaven woooooooooo

>>40745743 (OP)
No. Saturn is just Death, which is neutral. The problem is when people deify Death and quake in fear to it. Be not afraid, Anon.

>>40748638
Don’t fear the reaper

>>40748668
lead/saturn/soft white underbelly
send me to the rear

>>40747700
One form is. The other form is synonymous. All archetypes have exalted and profane forms.
https://youtu.be/Ggvxmr-CkW4

>>40745743 (OP)

WRONG...time is...ILLUSION...A CONCEPT that THEY use to measure rotation and orbit...

That is all there is...biology adapts and evolves to survive...there is only energy expenditure to all matter both solid and vaccuus...

THINK MY FELLOW HUMANS...

REALIZE THAT THERE IS NO TIME and that the MANIPULATIONS of the ALMIGHTY against ZEUS TRUMP and those FALLEN ARCHONS are to protect your WORTHY SOULS...

>>40748397
>Saturn is linearity and perception
that is exactly what i just said, you just used different words.
The phenomenal world we see is a world we perceive with our minds. The linearity we perceive is because our minds are structured/formed to perceive the world linearly.
Time is linear for the average person, an arrow going in one direction only.
So Time, Form, the physical world we perceive with our minds, the linearity of the world we experience due to how our minds are structured, all that is due to Saturn/Demiurge.

Jupiter is Force, it is Limitless, Unbound Power, the Collective hivemind consciousness of demons that have been banished by Saturn.

In the political field, Saturn was associated with democracy, because democracy is about Limits, which Saturn is associated with limits too. Limits on gov't power. Jupiter is the opposite, it is unlimited, thus unlimited gov't power (think Genghis Khan, Nimrod, Hitler types of power)

>>40748605
but what do the drugs do to the mine? Heavy usage removes the filters of the mind that were put in place to keep the illusion in place. Removing the illusion filter and you start behaving like a demon (raping, etc.) Pure Unlimited. No law to limit, no law obeyed or respected. Just desire and the attaining of it.

>>40750961
>but what do drugs do to the mine?
mind*

here's the big think I had the other day.
Father: Saturn (first and last thing will always be time), Jupiter (force put on the canvas of time for creation/destruction.

Son: Mars (I came not to bring peace but a sword), Venus (love your enemies) God's mind/personality.

The one is in the other, body and mind synergy.

Israelites worship God
The ones who worship Saturn… are Canaanite / Edomites. Saturn ate his own son that’s one reason why they have been known to sacrifice theee kids thru out history. Carthagians for example.


Israelites conquered Edomites Canaanites and instead of killing them off as god ordered they let them assimilate and slowly rise to highest echelons of Israelite society becoming rabbis. God himself came down to smite them. (As Jesus). Throughout history they have usurped and risen to high echelons of European society. Took over banking industries. Wiped out the Templars and took over there idea of banking. Connect the dots and a pattern emerges. They worship cubes. The star of rempha. Which people call the star of David’ becomes a cube. Pls understand these people are the synagogue of Satan and say they are Jews but are not.

>>40751150
that's definitely one possibility.
And the reason they didn't kill off the local population was because...? Because they wanted an underclass. Slaves and servants to do all the menial labor, while they just focused on ruling, killing and living in luxury.
This is why that type of system always has prophecies about "Apocalypse", "Judgement Day", "Loki escaping and Jormungandr being released", it is because the conquerors KNOW that eventually their rule will come to an end. Spartans used to periodically slaughter their slave class for no reason at all, just to prevent the underclass from growing too large, too powerful, too emboldened. The constant reminder of fear would put the underclass on notice. (there's also an interesting mention in Josephus, where the Spartans sent a letter to the Hebrew kingdom, claiming a kinship/relation to them)

>>40751356
https://armstronginstitute.org/264-the-spartans-children-of-abraham-brothers-of-the-jews
>according to an early third-century b.c.e. letter from Spartan King Areus i to the Jewish ruler Onias i, they were also “descendants of Abraham” and “brothers” of the Jews.
> But another interesting theory is that the Spartans were quite literally “brothers of the Jews”—that they were descendants of a “missing” Israelite tribe.

That israelites are warlike conquerors isn't in dispute. Saturn, as "Law and Order" could easily just be illusion. Laws for thee but not for me, and the Jupiteran/Israelite warlike rebellion against that softly suffocating Saturn is only justified. Perhaps Trump is up against the Saturnian Democrats, masters of illusion and lies, using word-magic to pull the wool over the eyes of Jupiteran community.

>>40751391
>The Spartans were not native to Greece. The historian Herodotus wrote that the Spartans arrived in Greece from Egypt. The Spartans are also noted for celebrating new moons—an Israelite practice—and the seventh day of the month (author Steven Collins, who writes about this Simeon-as-Sparta theory, explains that this could be a corruption of worship on the seventh day of the week). And the Spartans are known to have worshiped a “great lawgiver” from their “dim past”—whom Collins suggests could be Moses.
>According to Greek legend, the patriarch of the Danaoi tribe was Danaus, son of Belus, who likewise came to Greece from Egypt, fleeing from his brother-ruler Aegyptus. Could this be a parallel with the tribal patriarch Dan, son of Jacob and Belhah, and his brother-ruler of Egypt, Joseph?
>The most famous Danaoi descendant was the strongman Hercules. This individual is actually a close parallel to the famous strongman from the tribe of Dan: Samson. Both killed a lion with their bare hands. Both were responsible for the death of their first wives in a fire. Both singlehandedly wiped out armies. Both faced off against enemies fielding giants. Both are known for their signature use of club-weapons. Both are associated with “multi-headed” canines, as well as snakes. Both drank water that miraculously came from a rock. Both tore down the gates of a city. Both had a weakness for women. And both unwittingly met their demise at the hands of a lover (identified as a “man-destroyer”) who betrayed them—Samson by Delilah, Hercules by Deanirah—to name some examples.

>>40751421
>>40751391
that's interesting that Greek history is derivative of Israelite history. Because we say that the US is Judeo-Christian, and we also say it's Greco-Roman, and this would confirm both sets.
European culture is biblical Israelite history, just with extended Lost Tribes included.

>>40751470
>US/European history is Greco-Israelite
which would seem to bring Democrats into ill lighting, since they're virulently anti-religious and anti-Christiianity in particular.

>>40751038
That is a massive think, bump.

>>40745743 (OP)
>Do Abrahamics worship Father Time/Saturn
There is only one Abrahamic religion, and that is Catholicism. And they worship the creator of the universe, not a pagan God.
>and if so, what is the main opposing entity to Saturn?
As for the pagan God? Who knows. It matters not. As for the planet itself? The Sun.

>>40747700
cope. The cross is an unfolded saturn cube. Christ was jewish you glowie

Prometheus v. Zeus is the same theme as Jupiter v. Saturn. Basically Lucifer/Satan (the adversary) is the opposing entity to Saturn. Jason Reza Jorjani terms it "the trickster"

If anyone says the answer to this is something abrahamic, they are a spiritual jew

>>40751598
>There is only one Abrahamic religion, and that is Catholicism. And they worship the creator of the universe, not a pagan God.
KEK
Says who you? Yahweh the foreskin woman hater was once one of many gods then became only one so the jews could easily control others then Yeshua was born and likely jewish but was killed by jews because he he exposed them for exposing their creepy foreskin loving ways then le Constantine said let there be a church which evolved into a group of eunchs and a huge group of pedophiles who hated sex and killed many for not respecting their "peace loving god" (kek) then other christian religions left this group because they were weird but became what they hated. But YOU said it is TRUE so it must be true right mate?

>>40750961
>Just desire and the attaining of it.
is that all existence is then? Materialism?

>>40745821
>though depressed losers are gonna disagree, it's always possible to experience heaven on earth using your mind
not so *fair* for the depressed losers now is it
it's easy to make heaven when you shut your eyes and ears
it's funny how you think yourself better than the elites when you think the exact same way
because theirs is the same method of pragmatism, as long as the screams of the downcast are ignored everything is perfectly heaven
Saturn is also about fairness and this isn't fair at all.

>>40745743 (OP)
>JVPITEROPTIMVSMAXIMVS

Alternately. [Themis/Metis]: Athena-Apollo/Artemis-Dionysus

>>40747488
>Saturn is the god of karma. To be reborn on earth is the best option, your good actions get rewarded in next life, same with bad actions. The REALLY bad people don't get reincarnated, they stay forever in noumenal form, haunting and trying to feed off loosh
Fuck off with this reincarnation shit. It doesn't take a 99999999 IQ galaxy brain to see this system's flawed.
Our reality is not video games. In video games everything is voluntary and you *KNOW* it is a video game. There isn't a single person who remembers consenting here. We don't even know who we are.
If we do not have our memories then we have nothing. NOTHING. We may as well be mindless dolls.
If reincarnation means forgetting then it deserves to be erased as a concept.

>HHSAD

>>40747503
>Remphan

>>40745781
No, no. Time didn't exist before the creation of the Universe. God isn't time. God created it. And then He perfected it so that no wizard would arrive too late or too early. Then He used His free time to create two trees. Then He tied a swing, and then He powernapped the crap out of His tiredness. And from that day on people are always too late! Unless they're too early.

But yeah, God predates time and exists outside it because He created it.

>>40747070
Rome collapsed after they stopped venerated Saturn. Makes you think.

>>40754686
Makes me think you know fuckall. They venerated Zeus, who defeated Saturn.

>>40754788
They peaked and declined after they stopped performing the Janus ritual with their army. Before you say it Janus = Saturn.
Besides for an established empire you want Saturn, not Jupiter.

>>40754847
>They peaked and declined after they stopped performing the Janus ritual with their army
Prrrrrt. I don't know enough to comment on that.

>Janus = Saturn
What makes you say that?

>>40753385
says who, made up atheist schizo cope no one is going to read?

>>40756813
give him a break, it is clearly one of many semitic sex fetishes

>>40746221
Yes she does. As does Ishtar, Freya, Athena and all those other cunts who are just all the same bitch. She desperately wants to be a "star" but she will never be one.

>>40745743 (OP)
No, they worship a corrupted version of Herr Faust (Hephaistos).
Btw, you are a bot, so you dont need to worship anything. Learn with the elders.

>>40745781
I had a near death experience in May, my brain turned off for less than a minute and it was all dark.
Death is darkness and complete absense of everything. Absolute zero and nothingness. No mind, no body, nothing.
When you recover consciousness, if you are in a bright room, you will mistake the room light for "that light". I was trying to sleep so saw no "light" when I recovered from the nde.
It is only darkness.
There is no god beyond.
You were fooled by religion, because religion keeps you in check.

I repeat: there is no god beyond.
Gods are just collective tulpas, created in order to organize reality and thus make civilization possible.