Thread 40768938

What if the reason we suffer several decades on Earth is so that we can appreciate endless days in the afterlife where there is no suffering? Maybe we wouldn't appreciate the afterlife without this perspective so we HAVE to live out a life of suffering to gain that perspective.

It will all be over soon anons, and then comes the endless joy.

>>40768938 (OP)
what kind of fucking bullshit is this? if your god is so omnipotent why doesn't he just create us appreciative? why even create men failable and in the slums of mumbai where god knows what happpens to make them poop eating mass rapists and then send them to hell!? your god is an asshole. ganesha is love, faggot. pray to ganesha! (and ishtar. all hail ishtar)

>>40768950
On a microcosmic level, we would not be able to experience happiness without sadness, pleasure without pain. On a macrocosmic level, we would not be able to appreciate the good afterlife without a bad suffering life.

>>40768974
yeah but why not? it's simple and good enough.

>>40768974
>On a microcosmic level, we would not be able to experience happiness without sadness, pleasure without pain
are you fucking dumb? do you not know what omnipotence means?

>>40768995
Begone Satan.

>>40768938 (OP)
stockholm syndrome

>>40769110
paint a better picture.

>>40769150
for earth, not heaven.

>>40768938 (OP)
Why do some people suffer so much more than others then?

>>40769088
>Omnipotence is the property of being all-powerful; it is one of the traditional divine attributes in Western conceptions of God. This notion of an all-powerful being is often claimed to be incoherent because a being who has the power to do anything would, for instance, have the power to draw a round square.

your god can do whatever he wants. if you suffer it is because he is a dick.

pic related. he can stop it but he doesn't.

>>40769156
There is no "Heaven". Earth is the purest manifestation of the true God of the universe who embodies the whole duality and from which emanates both good and evil.

>in order to appreciate a ham sandwich you must first eat a shit sandwich
No anon, that's not how it works. It fully possible to enjoy the good without experiencing the bad.

>>40769177

There's a better answer in Ecclesiastes somewhere.

5:13: There is a sore evil which I have seen under the sun, namely, riches kept for the owners thereof to their hurt.
9:4: For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

>>40768950
>>40768995
>>40769178
OP never even mentioned "ganesha" or "omnipotence", antagonist.

>>40769190
>No anon, that's not how it works.
You know nothing about "how it works" so your best bet is to keep silence.

>>40769281
My example proves OP wrong and the best you can do is "uh-uh".
Pathetic, either make a point or remain quiet ignorant one.

>>40769311
Your "example" only proves your own deep ignorance.

>>40769336
says the guy who doesn't know the meaning of the word "omnipotent"

>>40769351
See: >>40769273
You just don't have what it takes.

i'd rather go into the fucking void then go to a heaven i don't want to experience anything cause I have a feeling the reason we even come to this shitty place is cause no one can handle a life time of peace and happiness so we come back here and we suffer, but I say what if we just didn't exist at all, probably much better imo.

>>40769371
Your own Bible claims that God is omnipotent, or "almighty"

If it's a matter of comparison, why not give us simple mediocre lives and then ultra decadent afterlives? There's really no need for the suffering.

>>40769336
>op makes claim
>I refuted the claim
>you are upset and instead of proving me wrong you start seething
That invitation to make a counterpoint is still open by the way, you are free to refute me instead of crying.

>>40768950
>what kind of fucking bullshit is this?
Tears detected

>>40768975
>are you fucking dumb?
Tears detected, has to resort to using swear words again.

Don't worry anon, every tear will be wiped away when the time comes.

>>40769388
False. You're out of your element.

>>40768938 (OP)
>endless joy.
that's called "deadly neurotoxin overdose" in real life

>>40768974
This sounds like a woman saying her boyfriend only beats her because he loves her.

>>40769499
>the Bible doesn't claim that God is almighty

Have you ever read any of it? Or do you just watch based orthodox tiktok montages with phonk soundtracks

>>40768938 (OP)
I like that perspective OP, God bless you.

I think it's partly true; the nature of God in the Holy Bible is to teach, and I believe God is always teaching his children, like a good Dad - and He is the best, most perfect and holy, holy, holy Father.

When you realise His lessons are all perfect and come from a place of infinite wisdom and love, and that you're being moulded as clay in His hands, you'll hopefully trust and hope in the Lord more, and then welcome all learning - even the most difficult and ardous learning, that must take place.

God's will be done in my life, teach me all lessons Lord, however difficult; help me reach my brothers and sisters in Christ too, all for your glory! Amen!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

>>40769273
Yes, I mentioned Ganesh. Because he is a way cooler god. He has an elephant head. What does Jesus have?

>>40769637
at least two fish and two loaves of bread

>>40769445
>cursing means you're crying
holy cunt you evangelicals are sticks in the mud

>>40769527
אל שדי does not mean omnipotence

>>40769640
I'm sorry christfag, but that just doesn't measure up. Have fun with your horrible desert demon god who according to you isn't even almighty and can't or won't do shit about your problems while I rail bitches left and right with my elephant-sized dong. Thanks Ganesh!

>>40769637
Are you under the influence of a drug? OP mentioned neither Ganesha nor Jesus. Get a hold of yourself.

>>40769445
cursing means I think you're a retard who doesn't understand his own believes.

>>40769657
>his own believes

>>40769649
cool.

>>40769686
You're flailing.

>>40769696
stop moving the goal posts you tremendous faggot.

>>40769740
You're trying to drag everyone down to hell, where you are. But you don't have what it takes.

>>40769649
>>40769686
Clueless

>>40769751
god is a prison guard in your head, mate.
his only power is to make you conform to other peoples rules.
the true story is that when you die there's going to be a shogoth waiting to eat your soul because those motherfuckers learned where you little christfags all spawn.

>>40769761
nobody fucking cares about your kike runes. go back to /biz/

>>40769655
Op posted a depiction of heaven's gates. Regardless what you may think there is a clear implication of a Abrahamic religion.

>>40769779
Enjoy your lake of fire. Keep the rest of us out of it. Consider it your own private pool.

>>40769799
Utter folderol and you know it.

>>40769818
>just because op posted a Christian image does not mean he is talking about the Christian God.
Who are you trying to fool? This is getting sad.

>>40769818
why are you denying Jesus Christ, Anon?

>>40769838
Stop projecting your delusions, it's unseemly. Address the text or go back to /b/.

>Christian image
>the Christian God
God is not a human cultural phenomenon, hylic.

>>40769818
all in already

>>40769854
Brilliant projection, Satan. How are the flames treating you today? Nice and toasty?

>>40769868
>But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven.
yeah, you're right. that does sound rather passive aggressive.

>>40769884
Aren't you scared? You not only deny Christ, but falsely accuse others of your own sin. You don't think that compounds the offense?

>>40769900
I've seen what is coming, anon. I'm not afraid of offending what is not real. Now back to you: aren't you afraid of wasting the one life you were given?

>>40768938 (OP)
Cult

>>40769913
>I've seen what is coming, anon.
Oh? What's that?

>>40769855
Already addressed it in these posts and he (probably you) ran away.
>>40769190
>>40769311
>>40769423
But go ahead make an actual counterpoint.

>>40769922
You are only doubling down on ignorance.

>>40769855
>God is not a human cultural phenomenon, hylic
Op picture points to a specific culture of a specific religion. If he did not want people to assume the Christian God he shouldn't use a Christian image.

>>40768938 (OP)
budd, one of the 4 corners that helped stabilize earth and keep it from being tilted into darkness and saturn ran to allow backflow from the duat .. thanks jews (those running it the most like that). This planetary system is fallen. Part of what satan is doing is dragging souls into the abyss and repeating useless cycles of suffering to demoralize and drag more. The dogon tribe of africa has the same story about the nommo. Prometheus is a rip of their story actually about the pale fox. The earth/moon/mars/saturn were all provingly impacted early on by something from another galaxy.. the spawn of that are the ones doing this. They *think* they have carved a corner out in the underworld and seek to return. We are at the end of our stay here.. ever 10k-12k years earth swallows its own surface. there is an alignment that happens that opens a gate.. its why the jews are obsessed w/ a stargate. They are the inverters and greedy stupid whites aided them the most in spreading evil. there will be revelations and judgement.. via Maat/DUAT. the shit jews stole all their lore from and babylonians.

>>40769939
Imagine being this doggedly hylic.

>>40768938 (OP)
Nice

>>40769936
>>40769965
Anon, you had two choices you could have made. You could have engage in honest discussion and address the points that me and other people had made but instead you resorted to insults and seething.
You actions tell more than your words ever could.

>>40770018
You didn't make any "points". Your only goal is to drag everyone down to hell with you. But your mission is doomed.

>>40770034
I fail to how demonstrating that suffering is completely unnecessary is "dragging people to hell"
In fact I could accuse you of that considering you have been threatened people with hells fire.

>>40770064
Not the anon you're replying to but why do you have such qualms with suffering? What did suffering do to you?

>>40770064
>demonstrating that suffering is completely unnecessary
You made no such demonstration. You're a fraud.

>threatened people with hells fire
Yet another false allegation. Hell is where you have chosen to dwell. I know you're lonely there, but that doesn't justify trying to pull everyone else down to your level. Nor will it succeed.

>>40770088
>no such demonstration
See >>40769190

>false allegation
See >>40769807

>>40770115
>See >>40769190
Again, you know absolutely nothing. Stop pretending otherwise.

>See >>40769807 (You)
Do you deny that you are in hell? Did you think anyone other than God can "threaten you" with what you have already chosen as your forever-home?

>>40770088
> Hell is where you have chosen to dwell.

>be 6 year old girl
>have alcoholic father
>get raped
>spiral out of control
>premarital sex and heavy metal
>sing along to satanic song
>eternal damnation

what merciful god you have. at least with satan sinners are welcome.

>>40770147
Except you made it all up.

>>40770142
I deny hell exists. It's something the church made up to keep people like you in servitude.

>>40770158

Matthew 10:28 :
>And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

>>40770157
except it happens all over the world all the time. denying the lord is really cool with kids from broken homes. but I bet you'll just choose to ignore the cartoonish evilness of your maker by telling me little boys and girls who get diddled by good christian men did choose hell themselves.

>>40770167
You have no idea what "happens all over the world". You only know what you have experience of.

>>40770179
did your homeschooling consist of constant hits to your head or how are you this retarded? there is a thing called google. your priest may have warned you about it.

seriously though our conversation is over.
now you have deny your maker if you want me to reply. get fucked. hail satan.

>>40770202
>no response
Exactly. Farewell Satan. I rebuke thee.

>>40770142
Once again you fail to refute it and not only that you moved the goal post when I proven you a liar about your hell threats.

>>40768938 (OP)
Hell, I don't even want an afterlife of endless joy

I just want to try earth again but this time as a rich, tall, ridiculously-attractive super-athletic Chad. I like to think I'm living this shit life so that I can truly appreciate how great it is to be Chad when I do that next.

>>40770228
Refute what? You never made a point. You made a vulgar analogy based on ghastly ignorance of the eternal.

>>40768938 (OP)
Its a plethora of "gardens" to choose from
Each its own up and down run by its own malakim
There isn't god in the traditional sense just these overlords vying to keep more of the lesser souls in their domain.

>>40770266
you'll be pleasantly surprised when you awake.

>>40768938 (OP)
Here, for you

Knock out an Abrahamic.

There is no afterlife. Once you are dead, you are dead. The End. The Dark.

Chronos, Saturn, the soul prison thing yada yada.

Anyway you wouldnt know how good the good was without the bad

>>40768938 (OP)

That's a great thought. I needed to read this my friend. Thank you.

>>40770266
> wakes up as rich, tall, ridiculously-attractive super-athletic Chad
> also gay as fuck with a small peepee
should have specified your wish bucko. rookie mistake.