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>be me, big UFO fan but despite the anecdotal evidence, eventually convince myself Grays aren't real due to "Mirage Men" documentary
>be on a road trip with my hot blonde curvy friend with benefits who's into astrology and some paranormal stuff
>start talking about paranornal podcasts, bring up Otherworld and the "crossed arms" case
>"Oh yeah Anon, I wake up with my arms crossed like that all the time, usually after I have the 'alien dreams' I've been having since I was a kid"
>u wot.jpg
>she proceeds to go deeper in on her abduction experiences than she ever has before, describing sleep paralysis moments where she saw Grays touching her parents and "examining" them in bed, the repeat nature of the dreams including the memory of people having sex aboard a UFO type craft that she was ushered past by the Grays, the memory of other kids being there with her and them being scared and freaking out, and a memory of an older "doctor" looking Gray who showed her Earth outside a porthole window

I keep getting into the space with UFO research where I convince myself it all must be bullshit, it must be, because there would be proof if not. And then getting disillusioned by Luis Elizondo and the very staged looking "whistleblower" movement.

And then something like this happens and I have no idea how to feel. My friend is very spiritual and "wooey-woo" but she's not a liar. If she says she had some kind of experience, I believe her.

But what the hell does it mean? Are we a zoo? She even mentioned they do "checkups" on her reproductive organs in the dreams. Why would that be necessary? What the hell is the purpose of all of this? Are these experiences objective and real, or subjective and spiritual? Is it the government doing weird shit with our reproductive systems for nefarious purposes, or ayy lmaos taking eggs and sperm to set up some kind of backup human population in case we nuke ourselves, or making alien hybrids? It really fucks with me.

Bumping with a few from prior thread

>that time Anon saw a crawler cryptid

>>40769262 (OP)
You cannot hide in space. Thermodynamics doesn't allow it. If there were another civilization out there, we would see them, no matter how advanced they were, because of physics. The only way they could avoid being seen is if they could alter physics itself, in which case "aliens" feels less appropriate than something like "the old gods".

Basically, if there are "aliens", then there's something either actual magic going on or something indistinguishable from the same. Which I, personally, wouldn't discount entirely. But, I also would take the word of anyone who claims to know exactly what's going on with a grain of salt.

>>40769262 (OP)
I am a UFO fanatic. Most of the good cases that I have in my archive don't involve abduction, but there are a few abduction cases that really aren't explainable by being psychotic.

Here is my first case:
>Antônio Vilas-Boas
On the night of October 15, 1957, around 1:00 a.m., a farmer named Antônio Vilas-Boas was plowing fields on his family’s farm using a tractor, illuminated by a spotlight. Suddenly, he saw a reddish, oval-shaped light in the sky. As he watched, the light approached and eventually revealed itself to be a cigar- or egg-shaped craft with a dome and a rotating red light on top. It emitted a humming or buzzing sound and descended to the field on three metallic legs. As the craft landed nearby, Vilas-Boas attempted to escape. He initially tried to flee on foot but was quickly seized by three humanoid beings around 5 feet tall, wearing tight-fitting silver suits and helmets. They had small blue eyes, spoke in high-pitched, barking sounds, and covered their faces with clear visors. The beings dragged him onboard the craft.

Vilas-Boas was taken through a hatch into a brightly lit room. The beings stripped him naked and covered him with a gel-like substance. They took blood samples from his chin using a suction-like device. After being left alone for some time, he claims that another being entered, this time a female. The woman was naked, physically attractive, with long white-blond hair, blue slanted eyes, and pale skin. According to Vilas-Boas, she did not speak, but instead made clear her intent through gestures. The two had sexual intercourse, after which the woman rubbed her belly and pointed upward, a gesture Vilas-Boas interpreted as indicating that she would raise their child in space.

After the encounter, he was given his clothes back and taken on a brief tour of the ship. He described seeing symbols and controls, which he later attempted to sketch. He was then escorted off the craft, which ascended into the sky and disappeared.

>>40770918
>cont.
After the event, Vilas-Boas returned home and discovered that four hours had passed. In the following days, he developed symptoms including:

Nausea, headaches, burning sensations in his skin, lesions that resembled radiation burns, insomnia and fatigue.

A few months later, he contacted journalist José Martins, who was investigating UFO cases. Martins referred him to Dr. Olavo Fontes, a physician and member of APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization), who examined Vilas-Boas and concluded he had been exposed to mild radiation, which seemed consistent with his physical symptoms.

Despite coming from a rural farming background, Vilas-Boas eventually pursued a professional education. He earned a law degree and became a practicing attorney in Brazil. This achievement was significant not only because of his modest upbringing, but also because he had become famous—some would say infamous—due to his alien abduction story. Yet, he managed to lead a respectable, stable professional life in law, away from the world of UFO conferences or public spectacles.

There’s no indication he ever tried to monetize his story. He did not publish a book, charge for interviews, or make public appearances for profit. When he did speak to researchers or journalists, he remained calm, serious, and absolutely consistent in recounting the details of what happened to him that night.

Vilas-Boas later married and had children. He seemed to live a relatively normal life, rarely revisiting the events of 1957 in public. According to those who knew him, he was a devoted family man and well-respected in his community. His wife and children lived with the awareness of his experience, but he was not someone who let it dominate his identity.

>>40769262 (OP)
Here is another good case:
>John Winthrop, the first governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony
The Muddy River UFO account, one of the earliest recorded unidentified aerial sightings in the American colonies, dates back to March 1, 1639. It was chronicled by John Winthrop, the first governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, in his journal. According to Winthrop, a “sober, discreet man” named James Everell and two others were rowing a boat on the Muddy River (now in the area of modern-day Boston’s Back Bay or near the Charles River) late at night when they saw a strange light in the sky. This light was described as “a great light in the night” which “flamed up” and then “contracted into the figure of a swine.”

The object reportedly hovered and darted back and forth across the sky for two to three hours, moving swiftly “as swift as an arrow” between the village of Charlestown and the back of Boston Common, over what would be the Charles River estuary. When the object vanished, the men found themselves a mile upstream from where they had begun, with no recollection of having rowed that distance. Winthrop noted the strangeness of the event and the character of the witnesses, implying he found the report credible.

>>40769262 (OP)
Here is another case you probably already heard of, but what many people don't know about this case, was that there is a map that was drawn, depicting some stars that weren't even discovered yet.

>The Betty Hill star map
On the night of September 19, 1961, Betty and Barney Hill were driving home to Portsmouth, New Hampshire after a vacation in Montreal. While traveling south on U.S. Route 3 through a desolate stretch of the White Mountains, Betty noticed a bright light in the sky that appeared to be following their car. Initially thinking it might be a plane or satellite, the light soon began to move erratically, descending closer, seemingly pursuing their vehicle. Barney stopped the car with binoculars in hand and claimed to see a craft with humanoid figures inside, observing him. As panic set in, he and Betty rushed back into their car. Suddenly, a loud buzzing sound filled their ears. Their next clear memory was of driving several miles down the road, confused and disoriented, with nearly two hours of missing time.

Disturbed by fragmented memories and strange physical sensations—such as worn watches, scuffed shoes, and Betty’s torn dress. Betty began to have vivid dreams involving aliens, medical examinations, and being aboard a strange craft. In 1964, the couple underwent hypnosis sessions with Dr. Benjamin Simon, a Boston psychiatrist and neurologist. These sessions revealed chillingly similar accounts from both of them:

They described being taken aboard a spacecraft by short, gray-skinned beings with large, slanted eyes. Betty underwent what sounded like a gynecological exam; Barney described something akin to a sperm extraction. The beings communicated not through speech, but via telepathy. At one point, Betty asked where the beings came from, and one of them showed her a star map. Under hypnosis, she later drew this map, and it matched the binary star system Zeta Reticuli, along with stars yet to be discovered until years later.

>>40769262 (OP)
Here is another good one from the distant past:

>Jacob Jacobsson
On September 16, 1759, in Lonmora near Ramsberg parish, Sweden, 22-year-old Jacob Jacobsson made a seemingly mundane trip across a lake. After dropping off a meal and returning by boat, he walked up onto shore—and encountered something uncanny. A long, wide road stretched before him where none had existed earlier. Intrigued, he followed it to find a grand red mansion, resplendent and out of place.

Inside, Jacob entered a large chamber. At the head of a table sat a chubby man wearing a red cap, while numerous small humanoid figures (identical in human proportion but diminutive) scurried about. A tall, beautiful woman offered him food and drink. Though uncomfortable, Jacob declined. The small beings then asked him if he wished to stay with them. Fearful and longing to return home, he prayed aloud. At that moment, the red-capped man snapped, “Throw him out, he has such an ugly mouth!” And suddenly Jacob found himself back at the lake shore. The road, mansion, and beings were gone.

Jacob immediately walked home and discovered his parents and the entire village had been searching for him for four days, believing him lost. Jacob, however, remembered only minutes, had not eaten or drunk anything, yet felt fine. There were no signs of physical strain despite what must have been days of absence. No injuries, but lasting unease. The event was formally recorded by Reverend Vigelius of the parish, who transcribed Jacob’s testimony—including his statement in front of his parents. Vigelius described Jacob as a sound, reputable young man, and apparently accepted the account seriously enough not to dismiss it as fantasy.

>>40769262 (OP)
I am just going to keep going until somebody tells me to stop. Sorry for not greentexting this, I highly prefer paragraph form.

>Travis Walton
On November 5, 1975, Travis Walton, then a 22-year-old logger, was working in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest with six other men as part of a timber crew. As they drove home in a pickup truck around 6 p.m., they spotted a bright, disc-shaped object hovering silently just above a clearing. Walton, curious and impulsive, exited the vehicle and approached it. Suddenly, a beam of blue-green light shot out from the craft and struck him. His coworkers said it looked like Walton was thrown backward violently, and believing he had been killed, they fled in panic. When they returned minutes later, Travis was gone.

Walton disappeared for five days. A massive manhunt ensued involving police, helicopters, and search dogs. His coworkers were suspected of foul play—possibly murder—and were subjected to polygraph tests, which they passed, bolstering their credibility.

Then, on November 10, Walton suddenly reappeared at a gas station in Heber, Arizona, disoriented and in poor health. He claimed he had been aboard a craft occupied by non-human beings and had just been returned.

Under both conscious recall and hypnosis, Walton described being inside a metallic room where he encountered short, large-eyed humanoids—described similarly to the archetypal "Greys." He later saw more human-like beings, wearing tight blue uniforms, who escorted him through a corridor to another room. At some point, a transparent mask was placed over his face, and he lost consciousness. He said he awoke outside the gas station with only fragmented memories and a deep sense of disorientation. He reported feeling like only a few hours had passed, not days.

>>40769262 (OP)
>Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker
The event occurred on the evening of October 11, 1973, in Pascagoula, Mississippi, and involved two shipyard workers: Charles Hickson (42) and Calvin Parker (19), who claimed they were abducted by non-human entities while fishing on the banks of the Pascagoula River.

According to both men, as dusk settled over the industrial shipyard where they had gone to fish, they suddenly heard a buzzing or whirring sound and saw a strange oval-shaped, glowing object hovering a few feet above the ground. It was described as 10–35 feet long, metallic, and lit with a blueish tint.

From the craft, three bizarre humanoid beings floated out toward them. The entities were not typical "Greys"—they were robotic-looking, faceless creatures, roughly 5 feet tall, with pale, wrinkled, grayish skin, pointed ears or conical protrusions, and claw-like pincers for hands. The creatures moved in a stiff, mechanical manner and made a buzzing or clicking sound. Despite their fear, the men found themselves paralyzed, and were levitated into the craft by unseen forces.

While inside, Parker recalled (mostly later through hypnosis) being examined by a single large, mechanical eye, like a scanning device. He was placed on a table, and something like a probe or scanning arm floated around him. Hickson remembered a similar procedure but noted that the beings never spoke, at least not audibly. After what seemed like only 15–20 minutes, the two men were levitated back to the riverbank, dazed and traumatized. They sat in silence for nearly 30 minutes before driving to Keesler Air Force Base, which redirected them to local authorities.

When the men went to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office, the authorities were suspicious and placed them in a room with a hidden tape recorder. They hoped the men would reveal a hoax. Instead, the tape captured genuine expressions of fear, with Parker breaking down and Hickson trying to calm him.

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>>40771155
strange lack of greentext in your posts for a
>greentext
thread bro. make your own slide thread to copy paste of wikipedia please instead of spamming

>>40771185
None of those stories were taken from wikipedia. Go ahead and check if you want to. If you would rather have people tell their stories in greentext go ahead I will shut up

>>40771223
I appreciated it thanks

>>40771185
>>40771281
lmao you're retarded you shut up the one guy posting interesting stuff in your shit thread

I've told this story before here, may as well tell it again.
Ive been meditating for about 20 years and into woo-woo type stuff for pretty much all of my life.
Had many bizarre, weird, paranormal experiences over that time. When I meditate regularly and intensely the experiences are always bigger and more frequent.
This one time for a period of about a month I would wake up, in a dream like state, but i'd be aware I am in a waking dream, meaning I'm laying in bed, eyes closed and 'dreaming' then my mind would move to an alien craft kind of near my house, not directly above, but a little off in the distance, 3 greys would be inside kind of honing in on me mentally/telepathically. I would describe what they were doing as trying to scan me, scan my mind, my 'soul' if you will. I would always push back on them energetically, it was just instinctual and also from my work that I have done and learned. Everytime I did this, they would sort of attempt to scan me again, i'd push back and maybe they would try once more, then they'd just blip out and disappear and I would either wake up, recall and remember everything or just fall back into sleep.

After about 3-4 times of this almost identical experience, I sent a telepathic message that was basically, 'I will let you scan me if I can scan you, but I go first, your the ones coming to me, and when I did this, the one grey that was in the middle and appeared to be the leader, got visibly angry, and they just blipped out again and I never had another experiences ever again. If I had to guess, their protocol is they won't allow that for whatever reason and he was kind of just like 'you are a waste of frigging time dude.'

Thats it.

>>40769262 (OP)
Can you post the hottie? even without face...kinda interested what ayylmaos go for

>>40771023
Why would the greys from zeta reticuli have a map designed from the pov of earth?

>>40771068
This sounds more like some gnome/fairy story. They tried to lure him, not examinate him like aliens would. Also no aircraft involved, no lights. The prayer thing and the red colour rather suggest a demonic activity. I won'ylt consider it a UFO story, even if cool on its own

>>40771155
>be grey
>you want to approach humans without scaring them with your alien appearance
>build humanoid robots
>cover them with synthetic skin for extra realism
>the result is a lovecraftian nightmare who will feel everyone with eldrich horror after seeing it
>never use the "humanoids" again for the next abductions
Lmao

>>40771934
Are they evil?

>>40773870
Didn't feel good or evil. They felt more just like drones or AI to me but I could be wrong.

>>40774138
You don't believe the theory about greys being Crowley's experiments demonic manifestations then?

>>40773810
I believe the map is designed from the pov of the Zeta Reticuli system, and Sol would be our system.

>>40769262 (OP)
>But what the hell does it mean? Are we a zoo? She even mentioned they do "checkups" on her reproductive organs in the dreams. Why would that be necessary? What the hell is the purpose of all of this? Are these experiences objective and real, or subjective and spiritual? Is it the government doing weird shit with our reproductive systems for nefarious purposes, or ayy lmaos taking eggs and sperm to set up some kind of backup human population in case we nuke ourselves, or making alien hybrids? It really fucks with me.

If they are extraterrestrials, they might be making a backup species for us or a slave species for themselves (like in the movie Stargate), or a hybrid species like you mentioned. It could also just be for scientific research. Lastly, it could be an expiriment to craft humanity on earth into a specific way. This last theory leads into my next theory.

What if the greys are actually humans, perhaps other universes parrallel or in the past where genes are starting to fail on them after a certain amount of time? Then, they would need some genetic diversity by getting a fresh human like one from our present timeline. Or, they would craft humanity in a way that makes us more like them.

Pic rel is humanity in 100,000 years from now

>>40769262 (OP)
what

do any of you have the original ben drowned posts capped?