>>40771880 (OP)
Challenger explosion then the Columbia breakup. After that, it was republicans defunding NASA in favor of private companies. We should have never defunded NASA. The future of humanity is in space and private companies shouldn't be in charge of that

>>40771880 (OP)
The Moon race was a contest between the US and the CCCP for bragging rights over space technology. "Russia" shocked the US to its tech core when it launched Sputnik 1, its first satellite! There was no reason to go there because it was considered to be a very useless, inhospitable wasteland of no value. "We" glommed the "trophy" and that was that for space colonies and other pipe-dreams!!

>>40771909
its getting worse and worse.
where could we be.
carl sagan tried to get the US and soviet union to collab on a mission to mars after the challenger

>>40771909
nasa is just a shell company for the NRO retard

>>40771880 (OP)
>>40771909
>>40771966
>>40771980
>>40773094
NASA is incredibly obvious with their deceptions and if you cannot see it or refuse to admit it, you’re just another literal religious zealot for the modern church of scientism.
>astronauts literally quoted saying that the lunar lander was held together by scotch tape and staples
...
>THEY SAID THE FLOOR WAS AS THICK AS TWO SHEETS OF REYNOLD'S WRAP...
>TWO SHEETS OF REYNOLD'S WRAP...
>THEY SAID IT WAS HELD TOGETHER WITH SCOTCH TAPE AND STAPLES...
>SCOTCH TAPE...
>AND STAPLES..

(((they))) are laughing at you my guy..

For those itt with even a modicum of capacity for critical thought and discernment, educate yourselves on how we know for certain that ALL alleged “space travel” is fake and gay just like space itself:

>Open pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh
>see section titled:
>VIDEOS TO LEARN ABOUT NASA’s LIES AND FAKERY:
>proceed to educate yourself
For example:

The Moon Landings Hoax by Taboo Conspiracy - Old Romania Presentation:
https://youtu.be/z5U5Lpgv8qM

>>40771880 (OP)
It wasn't made of cheese.

>>40771880 (OP)
it's boring. who cares - there is nothing up there. stop burning money for literally no reason. omg guys we found out this star 10 billion light years away is actually hotter than ours!!!

>>40773351
I've seen my Oshi watch a picture of herself ride a balloon into LEO
You telling me she's a glowie?

>>40771880 (OP)
No such thing as space
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>>40771880 (OP)
>back
>implying any bipedal humanoid ever set foot on that surface

>>40773619
This is the correct answer.

>>40771880 (OP)
standard model - theres nothing there worth the expense of going, most of the 60ies moon hype was in era propaganda to make the population feel patriotic about icbm rnd

>>40771880 (OP)
ah-k, hi!, my name is boxxyyyy. no, no, no, it's not a conspiracyyy why we never went back to the moon. so um, umm, let me see, we brought, uh-huh, 842 pounds of lunar moon rawww-raaaawww-raaaawwhhhhcks back to earth, verified by even the soviet gremlin, kremlin, union, union bay, umm, yeah, so, i don't usually talk like this, i'm, usually all over the place, but sooooo, where was I?
OH! no, no, no, no. we, WE didn't fake the rocks, not at all, ahh, not even one pebble or lunar dust bunnyyyy, but still, while a majorrrr accomplishment in aeronauTICS, there just wasn't umm, ACK-CHOO! oh my god, my upper boob! But you, know, yeah adeeee-fewjpofuisguhafeauioiuowfg, no, no i''m not on drugs, not a drugeeeee. ahh, k. yeah, there just wasn't anything on the moon worth a shit. In the eeend, it was just, just all a huge waste of moneyyy and quite an embarrasssssMENT to be quite honest. Byeeeeeeee!

we literally just planted a flag up there and brought rocks back home lol what a joke the NASA space program was

>>40771880 (OP)
>Never went back
I mean we've be there multiple times. You would have known that if you weren't an absolute retard.

>>40771880 (OP)
> the real reason

Graboids, lunar worms

NASA is fake and gay. The real reason we didn't go to the moon is because the Moon Rabbits sent an envoy to Earth and warned both the US and Russian Governments not to send men up to their home world. They didn't listen of course so the moon rabbits sent down a show of force by disabling all weapon systems at large US and Russian military bases. We have an uneasy peace with the moon rabbits for now. But if we keep acting retarded they're going to send us back to the stone age.

They live on the dark side but they come to the light side from time to time. If you have a good telescope you can sometimes see them moving around. They also like to shitpost on the light side of the moon.

>>40771880 (OP)
Imagine sitting on /x/ bringing up what NASA told you LOL

>>40773351
This is incidental information with low context, any moron can derive from that anything they want. Give me brass tacks, faggot, not your schizo nigger shit.

>>40771880 (OP)
No chicks there

>>40771880 (OP)
1_Western civilization that emerged from the dark ages peaked in august 1971 when the bretton woods gold standard collapsed

2_After that globalization was born in the nixon china deal, usa exported fiat usd and china industrial deflation due to their massive pop boom then imported commodities this caused western deindustrialization

3_Saturn V - Apollo CSM - Lunar Module was only designed to land on the moon, it was very overpowered for low earth orbit task hence why it was only used to launch skylab which was way bigger than the international space station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1sr6aVzW9M

4_Apollo hardware was privately build every part was assigned to a company which also subcontracted to others, they really don't exist anymore i mean Grumman is now Northrop Grumman may be the only one that can be said to exist but not a lot of orders for lunar modules to keep going

>>40774379
>Give me brass tacks
Off the top of my head;
>Van Allen Radiation belts
Never crossed by a human other than the Apollo missions. Inconsistent answers when you ask all of the apollo crews about it. Should have required lead shielding for human to go through and survive. They did it in a craft made of tin-foil
>Shadows in pictures/video
Shadows in all of the pictures are obviously from multiple light sources
>Background in all photos
The pictures are taken in such a way that they look staged. There is always a line running through the entire photo that hides the background then a back drop behind it. Looks like average studio set-up from that time
>Various inconsistencies in photos
Lots of misc. stuff like people finding letters on moon rocks that were later air brushed out when NASA released update photos. The hashmarks sometimes go behind objects when they shouldn't. The Earth was discovered to be photoshopped into the picture taken from the moon. Many other things like this.
>The live feed
They refused to give live feeds to the TV networks and forced them to film the projector at mission control.
>Delay in mission audio
In archives it was discovered there was no delay in responses from astronauts. When asked about it NASA took down archives and edited them to add fake delay but they didn't get everything because some of them weren't in the original report.
>Faked shot of Earth from space craft
They fucked up and sent footage from Apollo 11 to a film maker. It included a film of the astronauts faking a picture of Earth from the space craft. They were supposed to be halfway to the moon but they were in LEO. They used some tricks to make it appear the Earth was further away than it really was. See any moon hoax documentary if you want to know more.

There are many more but these are the main ones that bother me.

>>40774445
Some more because I'm bored:
>AC/heating the LEM
They were on the moon surface for several days in later missions. They claim they kept the inside of the LEM around 75F for the duration of the stay. But it's over 200+F outside. They claim they ran this AC system on what amounts to a few car batteries of the era. I'm not buying it.
>LEM landing
The rocket on the LEM left no visible marks on the moon's surface. It also didn't kick up any dust. The LEM looks like it was just sat there.
>Various issues with LEM
I don't want to go through them all but the LEM is an odd space craft and it was very small. It's claimed it wasn't big enough for two of them to fit and change into/out of the suits needed for EVA. The suits are also another big rabbit hole but I don't remember details now because it has been a long time since I was down this rabbit hole.
>The Apollo 1 crew
They were very vocal about the command module being a huge piece of shit. One of them went as far as hanging a lemon from it and complaining to the MSM. After he complained to the MSM him and his two fellow astronauts got burned alive in a horrible fire. Many claim it was set on purpose. Just before this fire happened he was complaining about the fact that the radios didn't work between two buildings. So how would they be able to talk to each other on the moon?

The story goes that he was too honest and would have blown the whistle if they decided to fake the missions. It's also pointed to because NASA claims they totally redesigned the command module after this happened and somehow had a quick turn around on it. NASA was failing at everything for years by that point. The public perception of them wasn't good at all. Many Americans wanted NASA shut down because they saw it as a money pit for a useless goal. NASA needed a win with the moon shot so faking it would be very tempting if they didn't have the ability to go for real.

>>40774445
>Should have required lead shielding for human to go through and survive.
no it doesn't. just shows that you know nothing about the VAB.
https://www.clavius.org/envradintro.html
>They did it in a craft made of tin-foil
no they didn't. They were in the Command Module, the walls of which were about 5 inches of steel sheet and fibrous insulation, then all the equipment bolted to the walls. im sure you believe that stuff didn't count as 'shielding' because you've no clue about radiation at all.
>Shadows in all of the pictures are obviously from multiple light sources
obviously not since there would be multiple shadows from everything. there isn't. you just get confused by how the angle of shadows look in photographs. vidrel
> people finding letters on moon rocks
no. theres one photo that had a tiny hair included during development
>The hashmarks sometimes go behind objects when they shouldn'
only when there was a bright object behind it. thats just how things work in photography - very fine details can be lost in bright areas of contrast.
>The Earth was discovered to be photoshopped into the picture taken from the moon
which one?
>They refused to give live feeds to the TV networks and forced them to film the projector at mission control.
when?
>delay
is absolutely fine. you're just looking at an edited network video.
>They fucked up and sent footage from Apollo 11 to a film maker.
no they didn't. Sibrel lied, saying he had secret footage never before seen, when in reality it had been broadcast live on TV.
https://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/2017/07/611-did-astronauts-fake-tv-footage-of.html

so, as with almost everyone else who thinks the landings were fake, all you've got are a bunch of tired old memes to offer. you know nothing about the subjects they touch upon and have done zero research outside the sources of your dumb misleading talking points.

The NRO went to the moon in 1939, Jack Kennedy was supposed send civilians up by 1969, but him getting shot in the fucking head by the Mafia kind of put an end to that. Instead we got John Gotti as Shadow President until his death in 1990s and an insulting fake "moon landing" because nobody with a brain or heart would actually work for that faggot.

>>40774477
>>40774445
Last one for now. Wernher von Braun is an interesting person to look into because without him you don't get NASA or the moon shot.

In 1959 I believe Wernher von Braun stated that you would need 3 large rockets the size of a Saturn 5 to get to the moon. You'd need 2 to get there and one to get back. So he was talking about landing an entire rocket the size of a Saturn 5 to get back up off the surface. This is why all the early Disney footage of men in space that were being produced in the 50s/early 60s showed entire rockets landing. Wernher von Braun and Walt Disney were close friends.

Once NASA was formed and the moon shot announced he did a total 180 on that statement. Since he was a former Nazi he'd do whatever the US Government told him to. So he's not exactly a trusted source I guess.

Disney and NASA worked really close together all during the early manned space programs. Just throwing that out there.

Go check out what's on Wernher von Braun's headstone. Kind of an odd thing for a man like him to have on his grave.

>>40774491
I love how you fags always have an answer lined up that's bullshit. As if being in the command module or the LEM matters when passing through those radiation belts. NASA itself admitted they were very dangerous the last time they sent a shuttle up higher than usual in LEO. The astronauts on that mission reported seeing flashes of light when they had their eyes closed. They could literally see the radiation hitting them.

But if you ask the Apollo astronauts they claim they felt nothing. You'll get a different answer out of all of them. Some of them claimed they weren't even aware that the radiation belts existed. They also have vastly different answers about if they saw stars while on the moon and on the trip to the moon. They also change their answers depending on what year they were asked about them. They're shady.

LOL I like how you claim that dude lied and the footage had been broadcast before. As if that matters when it's footage of them FAKING THE DISTANCE THEY WERE FROM THE EARTH BY SHOOTING IT THROUGH A WINDOW AND PLACING SOMETHING IN THE WINDOW TO FAKE THE TERMINATION OF DAY/NIGHT ON THE SURFACE.

Really it's such an obvious fake I'm shocked the American public didn't burn you all at the stake. It would take me days of typing to explain all the reasons why. Any one of these points is enough to prove they didn't go.

>>40774477
>But it's over 200+F outside
no it isn't. lunar temps vary over the course of the 2 week lunar day, and the landings were always made in the lunar morning. See, you've heard 'the moon is 200F +', never looked into the basics of the subject, and now you think its always constantly that temperature.
>The rocket on the LEM left no visible marks on the moon's surface.
it did. you can clearly see it in some shots. but again, you seem to think that the moon is covered in a equal depth of regolith at all points, when its not. and they did kick up dust. its clearly visible in video of the landings and described by the guys as it happened.
> It's claimed it wasn't big enough for two of them to fit and change into/out of the suits needed for EVA.
at the same time. that why one when out first, followed by the other a little later.
> The suits are also another big rabbit hole
only if you refuse to learn anything about them. perhaps you mean something to do with the sealing of the zippers, the cooling system, the materials it was made from etc.
>They were very vocal about the command module being a huge piece of shit.
true enough. NAA clearly had some quality control issues. but the idea that they would somehow conspire to murder the guys AFTER those issues were already common knowledge seems bizarre. what would the point be?
ANd, just because they had complaints about teh quality of the CM, how does that mean the landings were fake? it doesn't.
>It's also pointed to because NASA claims they totally redesigned the command module after this happened and somehow had a quick turn around on it
thats not claimed at all. what happened is that NAA had a big change of management at all levels, some previously recommended design changes were made to the CM (different hatch for quicker exits, no high pressure pure 02 atmosphere on the pad, changes to wire routings) and then it worked much better. 18 months is a long time.
> didn't have the ability to go for real.
they did

>>40774529
>I love how you fags always have an answer lined up that's bullshit.
and i love how you moonhoax morons constantly repeat the same old cliched talkpoints that you know nothing about.
>As if being in the command module or the LEM matters when passing through those radiation belts.
as if it doesn't. but keep talking about the VAB which you know nothing about. you just make it morwe and more obvious you got all your wrong info from a stupid moonhoax video like american moon.
>They could literally see the radiation hitting them.
so? thats not caused by the VAB btw, thats high energy cosmic radiation and just because some strikes are detected by your eyes doesn't mean its going to kill you or even cause the slightest noticeable harm.
>But if you ask the Apollo astronauts they claim they felt nothing.
maybe not felt anything, but the apollo guys did mention seeing the flashes something.
why should they feel anything though? do you even know what a noticeable dose of radiation is? humans can be exposed to 50 Rads and not feel sick in the slightest...100rads might have you feeling like you have some flu, but you'll recover quite quickly.
> FAKING THE DISTANCE THEY WERE FROM THE EARTH BY SHOOTING IT THROUGH A WINDOW AND PLACING SOMETHING IN THE WINDOW
but they dont do that at all. try looking at the footage without the lying sibrel ideas guiding what you see.

>>40774536
>the landings were always made in the lunar morning.
Like this matters when you're on the surface for multiple days. They can't produce an AC to keep something cool on Earth without resorting to grid power or an engine running constantly. Yet you expect people to believe they say on the lunar surface for days using two car batteries to power all life support, systems and keep the LEM a comfy temperature.

I forgot the biggest point I wanted to make:
>THESE FAGGOTS CLAIM THEY TAPED OVER THE MOON LANDINGS
That's right. The original tapes of the most important achievement in human history got lost and/or taped over. The data is GONE. The footage is GONE. All that exists are second generation copies of what was filmed on the mission control projector. They not only denied the networks access to the live feed they lost the fucking only copy of it.

Now it seems to me something like that should have been sent unedited to the library of congress right away. Some nerd working as NASA would have surely kept it safe and ensured no one copied over it and that it didn't go missing. I know if I was there my autism would have prevented it. In fact, I would have been insisting we make as many copies of it as possible and would have taken at least one home with me.

But NASA? Nah, we'll just tape over it because tapes are expensive even though we're getting unlimited money from the tax payers. They're full of shit.

I'm not one of those "space is fake" guys but I am a "NASA and any other space agency is total BS" guys. They don't even give us legit footage of what's going on inside the ISS. The livestream of that is fake as fuck and so are all the videos of so-called astronauts broadcasting from it. I do film editing for a living. I know bullshit when I see it.

Again; I'm shocked no one has murdered everyone involved yet. It's a huge scam they're running.

>>40774560
>Like this matters when you're on the surface for multiple days
of course it does. have you ever looked at the temps measured on the moon by the ALSEP units deployed during the missions?
>using two car batteries
another sad example of moonhoaxer ignorance and their need to deliberately mistate the truth using mockery. In fact, the LM has a lot of battry power on board. the descent stage had 5x400amp batteries and its these which provided power for the liquid coolant to be pumped around the cabin and then out to the sublimator unit. the ascent stage had 2x300amp batteries, since it was only detached from the descent stage for a relatively short time.
>on the mission control projector.
no, you have things mixed up. what happened, and only for apollo due to equipment upgrades in later missions, is that the signal broadcast from the LM back to earth was an a combined (unified) format, meaning that all the information (telemetry, the video etc) was all contained inside one continuous radi0 signal. that had to be separated out either at the receiving radio telscope or at mission control. the video footage was displayed on a display which was able to use the extracted data stream, and that was filmed using a standard broadcast camera. that was the best way at the time to change the format of the video stream and get it onto the TV networks.
The tapes that were copied over were the backups tapes from the receiving radio telescope. all of the data was extracted from them. the only thing missing is the slightly higher resolution video stream, since they still didn't have a better way to extract it.

there is no missing footage - we can see everything that was filmed.

THEN, what you are ignoring, is that all the footage, of higher quality, from all the other landings, is available.

>>40774560
>I do film editing for a living. I know bullshit when I see it.
if thats true then you might find this documentary on the tech used to broadcast from the moon interesting

https://vimeo.com/413822599

>>40774560
>o power all life support, systems and keep the LEM a comfy temperature.
More on the LM environmental control system. at least know what you're talking about if you want to bring specific things up as being evidence of fakery anon. Merely expressing doubt and incredulity doesn't really say anything of value. Use these doubts of yours as motivation to learn about things.

https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/alsj-LM-ECS.html

>>40774636
>>40774655
>>40774681
Just letting you know I'm not falling for it. I don't need to research the tech they used. I already have. They faked it. It's obvious. If you can't see that I'm sorry.

>>40774698
no, you haven't. you've watched a moonhoax video or two in youtube and somehow come to the conclusion that you know what you're talking about. just from your few posts in this thread it's very very clear that this is not the case.

>>40774363
this but unironically
heard jason jorjani talk about it on danny jones

>>40774508
>In 1959 I believe Wernher von Braun stated that you would need 3 large rockets the size of a Saturn 5 to get to the moon. You'd need 2 to get there and one to get back. So he was talking about landing an entire rocket the size of a Saturn 5 to get back up off the surface. This is why all the early Disney footage of men in space that were being produced in the 50s/early 60s showed entire rockets landing. Wernher von Braun and Walt Disney were close friends.
His initial plan was called DIrect Ascent and did involve a single large rocket that would land on the moon, than launch again for the return to earth. As you can imagine, that would have required a great deal more fuel. Its similar to how spacex wants to use refueling tankers in orbit, since their plan is to land upto 100 tons of cargo on the lunar surface and reuse the landing vehicle over and over again.

>Once NASA was formed and the moon shot announced he did a total 180 on that statement
the acceptance of an alternative method of reaching the moon called 'Lunar Orbit Rendezvous' was pretty well rejected for several years because of the added complexity of using multiple expendable vehicles. It was finally adopted after a serious of meetings and presentations which shows it to be the absolute more efficient way to get guys to the moon and back.

theres no real mystery here - just another example of people being reluctant to change their thinking when they've had a certain idea in mind for years. Thankfully reason and evidence made it clear how much better LOR was and thoughtful engineers were willing to accept that.

Those who ardently believe that the landings were faked could learn an important less from such guys, but they generally want nothing to do with reason and evidence.

>>40771880 (OP)
the moon is outside of range for going to heaven. if you die on the moon, your soul is lost, you can't go to heaven because god only created heaven in the sky of earth, not in the sky of the moon

Theoretically you could write something so huge on the moon with reflective paint that everyone could see it at night

>>40774940
but should we do that?

>>40773351
did it ever occur to you that maybe they were being facetious rather than literal?

>>40774704
Right, I'm just an idiot. No like I spent a long time researching this attempting to prove the hoax fags wrong. It isn't like I was massively into space stuff as a child and idol worshiped these people. That's why I'm so pissed off to learn the truth. They lied to me from the age where I could first understand my native language and all throughout my school years. Not like I spent an entire childhood looking up at the night sky and dreaming about going boldy where no man has gone before. Hell I wanted to be an astronaut when I was 4 years old. Well that or a race car driver.

NASA are a bunch of frauds. I don't believe anything they have to say or any data they release any longer. If I can't verify it with a telescope and my own eyes I assume it's bullshit because it most likely is. They're a bunch of evil bastards and I finally understand why the logo has a snake tongue on it.

Further more, I've got family and have been invited to join that little pedophile club all the Apollo astronauts and high ranking people in NASA were/are part of. I know about all the shit they do and their "secrets". I even troll people in that pedophile group because I know their handshakes and signs they use to signal to each other. I do it for the lulz.

You're very obvious by the way. You should try harder. Or try less hard I guess. By that I mean you don't fit in. I shouldn't tell you this but I doubt you'll put in the effort so who cares.

I also understand how compartmentalization works and why the Government agencies do it. Really easy to pull off a hoax like the moon landing when that's in place and things are on "need to know" basis. You could fake the entire thing and fool everyone in mission control. It's easy.

>>40775010
By the way I know why they refuse to give us one real picture of Earth from space. I'm not a flatfag or a space is fake idiot. The reason is the same reason why no one is allowed to get near Antarctica without military permission. It's why all these countries that pretend to hate each other work together on keeping people out of that part of the world. It's why the flatfag's math/proofs work out like being able to see across a flat plane/lake you're not supposed to be able to see across due to the curve of the Earth.

You ready for this? The Earth is much larger than they tell us. There is tons of land beyond what the normalfags are allowed to see. I have no idea how large the Earth really is. But I know it must be much larger than we're told simply based upon the math of the curve not adding up to what you can measure yourself at any large flat area or body of water. I know because I went out attempting to prove the flatfags wrong. Turns out they are right around that.

Same goes for a lot of other figures NASA gives like the speed of Earth's rotation. Which they pegged at 66,600mph for the longest time before people caught on to it. Then they silently changed it to 67,000mph and called everyone schizo for noticing the obvious signaling that they do in the media all of the time.

The moon itself is very interesting. Kind of odd we're the only planet with a moon that size, that close that just happens to perfectly line up with the size of the sun isn't it? Almost like someone is trying to tell us something.

See that's the difference between you and me. I'm honest and will admit I don't know something. You're not honest and will never admit you're wrong. But you're just here to waste people's time with arguments that go nowhere. You don't care what anyone posts here as long as you can stay on script and keep them distracted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAy-1NraoR4

One day I'll see the moon rabbits.

>>40775043
>The Earth is much larger than they tell us
I should explain this if I'm going to bring it up. Since if you post this in the flat earth threads both the flatfags and roundfags will team up to call you a schizo. Since they do that and I know both sides have legions of bots and shills posting using scripts I figure there must be some legitimacy to my theory. You can always get a good idea of what's true when you stumble upon subjects that make what are usually two opposing sides unite to attack you.

My best guess is that what we know as the Earth is simply a crater on a much larger body. The so-called "Antarctica Ice wall" is simply the rim of the crater. It's the mountain range that makes up the rim and its glaciers. Beyond it just a short distance you go down the other side of the mountain range and into lands unknown (at least to us). The major powers developed long range aircraft in the 1930s-1940s and figured this out. After WW2 during the 1950s they started sending down permanent expeditions and established a presence there. They probably bumped into other life/people living outside of this crater and made deals with them to prevent knowledge of the outside lands from spreading here. Or perhaps they've known about it for much longer than they're telling us. Either way, this crater we're in operates as a prison. They make sure to keep us inside of it and no one is allowed out unless they're given permission. That's why it's so hard to get a job in on one of the bases and everyone is watched like a hawk whenever they're on them. Also why the tours you can sign up for only go to the same handful of places near the shoreline.

Again my best guess: If you start at the southern tip of South America and go straight across to Antarctica there is a passage between two mountains that you could probably cross on foot if you took enough food with you. It looks that way on the maps we're allowed to see anyway. Admiral Byrd got out easily with an aircraft.

>>40774954
I mean, a giant penis in red paint would be kino
Def be the best trolling of all time

>>40774395

>>40771880 (OP)
The Cold War died down, the only reason we went there was as part of a pissing match with another country that existed because our ruling class felt threatened by the economic system they used.

>>40775010
> I finally understand why the logo has a snake tongue on it.

No you don’t. Even if you did you wouldn’t dare say that shit on here or to anyone retard. There’s people still being tortured from the 90s for running their mouths in private.

>>40775087
>implying both sides weren't working closely together and playing everyone for fools
The false left/right capitalism/commie dichotomy might fool some of the people some of the time but it doesn't fool me. So much of our "history" is faked the official narrative of it might as well be tossed in the garbage bin. We weren't in a "pissing match" with them. They were working very closely together to ensure the normalfags were kept in line while they murdered as many people as possible with their war meat grinder. They also push normalfags closer and closer into accepting total police state by playing groups of them against each other. Which is all the Cold War was.

>>40771880 (OP)
>>40771909
>>40771966
>>40773351
>>40773619
Those of you itt who don’t understand just how easy it is for corrupt governments and powerful institutions/entities to propagandize entire societies should watch this immediately:
>Meet Edward Bernays, Master of Propaganda:
https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-edward-bernays-master-of-propaganda/

…And thats just the tip of the ice(((berg))). If you approach the rabbithole with a mentality of genuine interest in learning the truth about this reality and your place in it, (you) will inevitably arrive at the topic of flat earth.

Protip: every single answer to literally any and all flat earth related questions you may have can be found in this pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

You can also use the 4plebs search function to find FE posts made in the past
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/Flat%20earth/

for those itt who are unaware:
space is fake and gay, the magical spinning cartoon ball earth is fake and gay. we literally live in God's snow globe and every decision (you) make has immense meaning and significance. change your ways and start living correctly. dont fall for the nihilism meme and dont fall for any of the religion memes. you can look at life as either a test or a game but whatever you do, dont look at it as meaningless. BE A GOOD PERSON AND LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE ALWAYS! also stop jerking off you pathetic littel squirtboys; your life will drastically improve when abstaining from degeneracy.

>>40775098
I'm not afraid of them. They're fucking evil and they deserve to be exposed. The symbolism isn't exactly that hard to notice or understand. They openly brag about it and they've put it up everywhere. I know when I'm in an open air temple.

>>40771880 (OP)
>>40771909
>>40771966
>>40773351
>>40773619
The world is owned and controlled by a small handful of literal satanists, eugenicists and psychopaths. They want to bring suffering, misery and death upon humanity. Above all else they want your soul. They will do anything and everything in their power to convince (you) to become materialistic and nihilistic so that you become easy to control and manipulate (thats the primary objective of the heliocentric model). If youre convinced there is no metaphysical nature to reality, it is easier for them to convince you to sin and commit atrocities for them. For lurkers itt who are unaware of this fact and new to learning about how this world actually works start here:

THE ELITE, ROYAL BLOODLINES, BILL GATES & THE EUGENICS IDEOLOGY:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil
https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020/

THE FEDERAL RESERVE:
https://corbettreport.com/federalreserve

CONSPIRACIES RESOURCES:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bestof/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/70qvx7/updated_list_of_proven_conspiracies_and_hidden/
https://unlimitedhangout.com
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com
https://www.crrow777radio.com
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757

SHADOWBANNED FLAT EARTH VIDS/RESOURCES:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

NukeHOAX:
https://vimeo.com/331671526

Germs/viruses:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/joZF7GsUmbfd/

HIV/AIDS:
https://youtu.be/8BXxXcIYY_Q

CovidHOAX:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/448646795/#448671181

EVOLUTION:
https://youtu.be/rXexaVsvhCM
https://youtu.be/DtCIp9sgiE0
https://youtu.be/xDvKD_z3OeQ
https://youtu.be/vdSjyvIHVLw
https://youtu.be/cCk-b9GaY5k

SANDY HOOK:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iazwAxgBtexC/

Looking to perform your own tests/experiments to confirm or falsify the mainstream claims? (you) can start here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

>post theory about Earth being larger than we're told
>flatfag copypasta shows up instantly to derail
Every time.

>>40775010
>>40775043
>all those words
>still can't discuss anything in depth
look i get it - you've watched a lot of conspiracy style youtube videos and believe that makes you knowledgeable. It doesn't; all its done is give you a very shallow and surface level collection of little tidbits that you regurgitate in walls of text to disguise how little you actually know about any of these subjects.

That's why you ran away from getting in details about anything and started going off into la-la land instead. You haven't got any details - you've only got the refuge of spinning out your fantasies.

There is no wall; there is no giant crater. you have absolutely not the slightest evidence for this other than your misunderstanding of measuring the curve of the earth, just like the flat earthers do.

>my best guess:
yes. guesses are all you have. its very sad actually, reading your long waffling paragraphs in which you treat actual evidence as fake but your own inventions as solid ground.

>>40771880 (OP)
>>40771909
The universe is playing you dumb niggas.
The moon didn't want you building on it plain and simple so it blew up your silly rocket toy and you ran away with your tail between your legs.
Same reason why you're never going to mars. There is an invisible psychic force field that will prevent these kind of things from occurring. You're not supposed to desecrate sacred celestial bodies.
Imagine a theme park on the moon. You would be ruining the moon's aura. That's a big no no. It's not just a rock for mining. It's alive and it has great power over our reality.

>>40775110
Fair. Just giving you a heads up.
A good friend of mine has been missing since 2019. We worked the same job, I essentially lived with him. We’d get drunk talk conspiracies for hours!
Spent more time with him than my own fiancé.
He ALWAYS had a firearm on him and it’s so out of character for him to just up & dip out of nowhere with his truck. (Especially so close to his birthday, which he was looking forward to as we all had plans) Me n his brother think the same thing. The obvious. He was WAAAY to specific on these “conspiracy theory” facebook posts. That snake one in particular he’d rant about. If what he told me is true than it’s the most weirdest/strangest unpredictable thing. the type of thing where your jaw hits the floor and you just sit there in silence.
(Not gonna say but nobody has even came close on this board to what he told me)
Miss my bro so much. All I'm saying man is if you have people in your life that love yah just be cautious is all, at least for them. Kinda just point to them the direction to walk without being to objective and if they aren’t normie/bots than they will take self interests on their own from there.
I hope he’ll show up at my house randomly one day with a case of beer and some firehouse subs. (We’d eat there all the time) but I know that’s not gonna happen.
This is also why I don’t believe in 99% of any popular conspiracy theorist. Like, if they are whacking literal nobodies who have inside information than HOW THE FUCK are people selling out arenas and getting sponsorships/endorsements for saying said inside information than? Makes no fucking sense. If a conspiracy is on Ancient Aliens or TV it’s not true or it matters so little to the actual truth that it doesn’t matter if you know.
Ight im done bitching.

>>40774954
I think the answer is obviously yes and it should be a hard-R in Comic Sans

>>40771880 (OP)

We kept going but in secret. We still go in secret. The general public is kept in the dark about a lot of things. There is already a moon base on the moon.

>>40775418
where else would a moon base be?

>>40771880 (OP)
No one's ever really been to the moon

>>40771880 (OP)
we couldn't go in the first place

>>40771880 (OP)
You did. You just never let "You" go back. I don't know how to explain it to you so I'll spell it out for you.

B E T R A Y A L

We never went back to the moon because we found absolutely nothing of value there. It was also decided that it was a waste of time, money, and resources.

>>40775077
>Also why the tours you can sign up for only go to the same handful of places near the shoreline.
You can fly to the nice base they have at the south pole
>wah, its a fake south pole
ok schizo

>>40775643
That's what the moon wants you to think. You are being mind controlled by the moon and you don't even know it.

>>40776470
We should go fuck that moon up if what you say is true. like, land there and fuck it up.

>>40776555
You won't do shit. It's more powerful than you.

>>40776660
thats what it wants you to think

>>40774698
For those of us still convinced by it, can you explain specifically what's wrong about the /sci/ answer?

>>40771880 (OP)
Because they never went there in the first place, dumbass.

The Moon is not what they tell us it is. The moon is a melted part of the firmament, the bubble that encloses the earth. The earth collided with the sun or possibly venus due to this breech in the firmament. This event also caused the desertification in Africa and the change in the length of the year. This is why we only ever see the same face of the moon.. it is not rotating but the cosmic equivalent of a cigarette stubbed out on a plastic dome above the earth.

The moon only ever shows us one face because it is not rotating but a fixed aspect of the firmament, a melted crater in the firmament from a collision with the either sun or venus.

>>40774253
>Ayy_I_LMAO.webp
ftfy

>>40778207
>>40778228
ok, but what's the flaw in the scientific reasoning?

>>40775010
>>40775043
>>40775077
these are nice posts thank you anon

>>40771909
I wasn't expecting to get bitch slapped by reality on /x/ but here we are

>>40779086
Are they? He started talking it personally, dropped all previous arguments, ignored the other guys answers and then typed three walls with no evidence.

>>40771980
Never forget what they took from you

>>40779537
classic behavior of those types. Insufferable, ain't it?

>>40779537
>>40779887
>He doesn't engage with us because we're obvious shills
>quick attack his character!

>>40775086
The tape was actually a design advantage during the lem development originally the lem was going to be way bigger but they realize insulating it during lunar daylight was not that hard because the sun moved as the moon rotated around the earth.

On spaceship this is more of a problem between the earth and the moon because you end up with a side receiving all light and the other nothing so you need more insulation, same as if you were going to mars but not during the lunar landing.

The lem design is brilliant as for the computer the lunar landing computer had woven software but it indeed it was the first real computer as you may know it because it did not crashed if memory was full you could say it had the first operative system in some ways because it did not stack overflowed if too many sofwate was running at the same time it simply gave priority to the one more important and sent the rest to "later".

But most software there was ridiculously simple, waypoints basically do this then this then that then this but very manual, in apollo 14 landing for example they almost crash because the abort button failed and had to reprogram the software to ignore such signal before landing. but it was not fully automated at all in fact it was designed to be manually landed software was there to do the movements at the right time to leave a last gate for manual landing open, but it could not land itself.

>>40771880 (OP)
The real reason we never went back is because China started offering child sex slaves and the politicians and bureaucrats got distracted.

>>40771880 (OP)
Dark City, The Signal, etc.
Theater. They need to keep a percentage of actual people running on the hamster wheel.

>>40780213
>it indeed it was the first real computer as you may know it
lol
>it did not crashed if memory was full
LOL
>you could say it had the first operative system
HAHA
>it did not stack overflowed if too many sofwate was running at the same time
LMAO

>>40771880 (OP)
Can i piggyback this thread to ask if anyone thinks the moon was/is a fake construct placed there to monitor humanity?

>>40780351
Undoubtedly so.

>>40778228
look up lunar libration. proves you wrong.

>>40780252
>The Signal
What's that?

>>40780328
the other anon is pretty much exactly correct on the things he said. Hal Lanning implemented several concepts that still apply to modern computers, prioritization being the one mentioned here. It meant that, like the other anon said, even when too many operations were being requested the primary mission critical processes would not come a halt since they had been given the highest priority.
What the AGC would do is start giving program alarms, many of which did not mean that the landing had to be aborted. The famous 1201 and 1202 alarms that they had while landing during apollo 11, though stressful to all concerned, turned out to be just indicators of too many requests being made on the computer due to the rendezvous radar being on at the same time as the radar altimeter.

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>>40774636
>>40780213

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>>40780213
>>40781547

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>>40781547
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>>40779963
All you allow for, and deserve, is pointing and laughing.

>>40781547
>>40781561
>>40781567
>avoids all the points made
>changes subject via more retarded memes
what a class act you are anon. incredible.

>>40771880 (OP)
No one has the balls

>>40781635

Man has never set foot on the moon.

>>40771880 (OP)
The moon is not a solid object, it's a light phenomena on the firmament.
Rockets are shot into the ocean, there are no people in it. NASA is just a big show.

>>40771880 (OP)
Danger inhabits the moon.

>>40771880 (OP)
Thing is like mercury but worse because its tidal locked. We don't have people or satellites over antarctic either for the same reason because its very hard to reach and just not worth it

>>40773094
what does NRO do, what does it stand for?

>>40771880 (OP)
Lunar bears

>>40774536
>>40774553
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>>40774636
>>40780213
>>40781635

The Apollo 11 post fight press conference brings up certain questions.

If the landing was faked, Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins behavior suggests they were rug pulled at the last minute and fully believed they were going to the moon. If they were 'in on it' all along, then there would be no reason for the sudden change in demeanor. This is the premise of the movie Capricorn One.

NASA could have just hired some sociopathic actors but I guess crafting an educational and professional history might have been too much. That problem has been solved by Bezos and Katy Perry.

If they did go there, something terrible happened or was observed and they were sworn to secrecy and threatened about or simply going that far from Earth causes a profound psychological change.

>>40780213
>The lem design is brilliant
LMAO
The NASA fellators are so fucking cringe.

>>40783469
>the landing was faked, Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins behavior suggests they were rug pulled at the last minute and fully believed they were going to the moon. If they were 'in on it' all along, then there would be no reason for the sudden change in demeanor. This is the premise of the movie Capricorn One.
Woah great angle. Another example of freemason/kaballistic "we told you the truth ots your fault for not believing us" magick sin absolving. The making of Cparicorn is totally that they were freemasons that I agree probably thought they were actually going up. But Stanley and the crew had other plans, probably told day before the mission what was really gonna happen.

>>40782875
>>40783469
I always figured it was bc they probably didn’t realize just how badly it was going to be faked. I mean they probably had no idea how obviously hoaxed the final product was going to be and when they finally saw it for themselves they knew that millions would see them for the frauds they really were.

>>40774536
>>40774553
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>>40774636
>>40780213
>>40781635

>>40783936
>>40783946
I would have a lot more respect for deniers if they werent such deceptive pieces of shit with their graphics and arguments.

>>40771880 (OP)
They have their own Trump and ICE agents

>>40771880 (OP)
It wasn't made of cheese as promised. Everything got scrubbed and all the Apollo missions information was shredded in cheeseless frustration.