Thread 40788928

Pagans are mistaken in their worship of nature. The gods of all religions on Earth want humanity to evolve into a species without individuality, a hive mind, without sexual characteristics, without gender, and that reproduces by cloning. The spiritual evolution of civilization will progressively eliminate individualism, given that the source of creation is everything and is unity. The illusion of individuality will be progressively eliminated.

Reproduce? Why? We need to achieve immortality and only reproduce if humanity starts to die out.

Immortals are more useful than new generations. They would have incredible knowledge and skills with time. We could genetically engineer new people to be as smart as possible

>>40788978
Immortality is something exclusive to a very limited group of entities. Most gods are not immortal; they just don't forget when they die and have total control over their reincarnation.

>>40788978
>New People
>Better than me

Good one, cloning will be for the variants and not the uniques.

>>40788928 (OP)
>without individuality, a hive mind, without sexual characteristics, without gender
Sounds like me

Should I take on a different form? It could create new forms of influence?

>>40789013
We are looking at what is best for humanity here, not what's better for you :/

>>40789033
Contradiction, "best" is inclusive of the sorting process where 'better' occurs.

>>40789002
>they just don't forget when they die and have total control over their reincarnation
>The photocopy is anything other than that
>He doesn't know the mechanism is a backup and not you yourself

What you're describing is simply a mundane mechanism that most don't make use of anymore. They aren't Gods at all but blind idiots.

Those entities which have become immortal is due to becoming a different lifeforms altogether. So they're not exactly compatible with the same thing humans are(if you have a human soul you aren't anything other than a weak human).

>>40789043
I this context it's not a contradiction. We are looking at what is an advantage for the whole group, in situations like this what's better for someone could destroy the whole group...

>>40789002
IMMORTALS IMMORTALS
WE COULD HAVE BEEN IMMORTALS

>muh anime larp that I saw on the anime series
>the gods are what anime series said
Opinion discarded.

>>40788928 (OP)
Why do you think you can come here and post shit you obviously pulled out of your ass and expect people to take your word for it?

>>40789033
>not what's better for you

I am humanity and I decide anyways in the long run because I have authority. You're deferring to some abstract shadow representing humanities collective evolution; Which those above a set level either don't care about or actively seek to undermine. I'm among the very few who actually care about such things in the higher "arenas" as opposed to those falling prey to the machinations of malefic powers such as the false gods.

You're just an ape hiding the fact you're begging for those creators of such works to exalt you above anything you rightfully deserve. Which most likely isn't even a single life or any form of improvement. You aren't even willing to toss yourself into the fire yet you eagerly mouth off from the sidelines. People like you aren't even willing to liquidate the lesser races for the sake of such a modest end.

>>40789074
everyone else does it too, dont blame OP for fitting in perfectly you fucking pooster

>>40789059
>someone could destroy
You mention monoculture, which is not a valid group.

>>40789043
People like him are simply looking to collectivize human accomplishment in order to stay relevant on even a mundane level of existence. They bring nothing to the table other than parrot establishment propaganda on those elites willingness to share the fruits of other people's genius(captive minds). In the same way they already share the collective western gestalt of technological progress with subhumans. Even down to the level of physical labour and prosperity.

>>40789102
"Other people are doing it" is not an excuse for being a shitbag, you should've learned this as a small child.

>>40789074
>he doesn't know
Hahahahaha

>>40789119
You overestimate. Feeding the shadow from earlier, helps who?

>>40789171
Helps everyone who is either rentseeking or a genetic dead end.

>>40789179
Suppose you are a 2.5 family oriented NPC. Even then:

>can either of those be fair to you?
I won't ask, since the question is hazardous. Defending lords who are addicted to evil taxing is not my purpose, and I want to make it explicitly understood: trying to figure out how they could be fair to you is deceitful

Stop feeding anything which will never feed you, is my advice.

>>40789119
Projector. I am an individualist. This thread is about humanity becoming homogeneous and improving itself. My post is about this.

I already have superior intellect to most of the human race, so I do not need this kind of idiocy.

>>40789273
We're talking about biological individualism or how the individual relates to a system or mechanism that complements the usual selection process. Sometimes you have to abandon what you think is part of your individual self in order to just survive(just like in any human society). We arent talking about petty superficial human "identity" here.

You fail to understand how using the genetics of others in order elevate the unworthy(splicing); or simply make haphazard clones for your own unworthy self to exploit or reproduce asexually(memetically, not genetically); Removes the opportunity for the very progenitor of such a seed to manifest their full potential. Actual selection requires methodology and extreme exclusivity. You're advocating for scientific bioleninism and pretending you care about the individual.

>>40789371
I am not pretending that I care about the individual at all. I am saying anon can die if it's necessary for the sake of humanity, but it is not what I believe in.

I did not even talk about cloning here, did I? I said we can edit new humans to be as smart as possible, it has nothing to do with me. I was just thinking about ways to make humanity better.

You are autistic and assuming a bunch of shit, aren't you?

>>40789371
Holy shit, got triggered and deleted everything, huh?
LOL

Why do I have to deal with this kind of idiot? I wish God would kill people like this so I don't have to deal with them thinking they understand me.

Please, do not speak about what others feel or want, you know nothing about what goes inside other people's minds.

Seriously, that was pathetic.

Perphaps you are upset because I am a multilingual polymath, huh?

https://youtu.be/tEFU46jYVOI?si=cDDXZUv8vtZ5N0ZU

>>40789446
You're a retard who doesn't understand what the actual betterment of humanity looks like. Do you simply think these embryos and genes from how many hundreds of thousands of years of selection came out of the ether? You're upending progess that has been ongoing since the beginning of our existence by meddling with the process. Editing or making new humans is copying the genes of those betters and removing any form of opportunities for emergent or novel selection. It gets even worse when you realize how rare actual genius is even in the higher racial stock of peoples.

You live in a bubble of prosperity handed to you by the very people you're scorning now by feigning ignorance.

>I am saying anon can die if it's necessary for the sake of humanity, but it is not what I believe in.

Then you don't belive in any form of selection let alone natural, you aren't even acquainted with the usual biological methods if you scoff at biological death. All removing death from the equation would do is lower the cost of faliure.

>You are autistic and assuming a bunch of shit, aren't you?

No, your words betray your intentions and I suspect you aren't adept or literate enough to understand this.

>I did not even talk about cloning here, did I?

Here's a perfect example to prove you completely wrong and being evasive.

>We could genetically engineer new people to be as smart as possible

So we're making entirely new peoples and genetically modifying them? How is this not bioengineering clones? Are you daft?

>>40789552
>Holy shit, got triggered and deleted everything, huh?

That was you deleting your own posts idiot and no one is fooled. I haven't deleted any of mines whatsoever. You're such a retard that you can't even comprehend the thread reply chains conclusively prove this regardless of your input in deleting your own posts.

>Please, do not speak about what others feel or want, you know nothing about what goes inside other people's minds.

I know full well what's going on in your mind and usually the minds of most the dullards you call human if I even bother to put the effort. The fact you think even caring about what goes on in someone's headspace is necessarily conducive to any form of praxis is completely erroneous and extremely effeminate.

>Perphaps you are upset because I am a multilingual polymath, huh?

You're just an idiot as plain as day for everyone here to see and barely literate or competent in the use of the English language. You fail to even understand how you choice of words or syntax betray your inner thoughts. You can't play these games with someone like me idiot. This is an online forum and not a public space where such trite like sophist tricks would amuse your fellow monkeys.

>>40789572
Are you stupid? Editing genes doesn't equal cloning, faggot. Cloning is specifically making a copy of an organism.

Who said nature is better at evolution than us? Nature is retard, it creates stupid things.

Huh? Nigga, you are entering in a completely different subject here. What I mean is, if anon could start a calamity he should be taken out. Never said anything about any kind of selection.

We can literally edit genes in uterus. That's not cloning at all.

>>40789620
Lol
You literally know nothing about other people

You are just arrogant and stupid lmao

Yeah, I learned English here on 4chan.
English is my third language that I learned casually without any study.

I am very competent in a few fields too. You are assuming too much.

You are pathetic, dude

>>40789650
>Are you stupid? Editing genes doesn't equal cloning, faggot. Cloning is specifically making a copy of an organism.

>We can literally edit genes in uterus. That's not cloning at all.

Yes it absolutely is you retard, you're copying(aka Cloning) specific parts of some elses sequence and grafting it. Your genes are a massive contributing factor to your outcomes and is quite littleraly the footprint of your biological identity. It isn't technically cloning but in terms of the effect it has on selection or evolution it absolutely is. Because you're sharing someone's elite genetic sequences with someone who might have a whole host of other flaws that are deleterious. Not to mention removing the advantage or opportunities for those who's genetics were copied in order to facilitate this.

>Who said nature is better at evolution than us? Nature is retard, it creates stupid things.

You're such a brainlet that you still internalize some illusory dialect between man and the "natural state/nature" when it's infact the "natural environment". Darwinian processes or the usual selective pressures don't stop being a factor in human environments(they simply change, mostly for the worse).

You don't know anything about biological, anthropology, history or even basic game theory to understand why you're completely wrong. You're just a cookie cutter fedoralord not understanding the roots of his tradition are communist futurism or jewish atheism.

>>40789659
You're so retarded you fail to comprehend anyone of appreciable intelligence can immediately estimate your wit by the composition. You're too dumb to conceal your content or even emotions when typing posts, most likely because you have a serious case of diarrhea brain. This is endemic to normgroids like you who write as if they're having a litteral spoken conversation with someone as opposed to a written dialogue.

tldr; You're probably semi illiterate even in your naitve language.

>>40789732
Nope, different concepts. Cloning and gene editing are not the same thing at all.

The if we edit genes it's part of the natural environment..

Also, I have 0 interest in any of these subjects you listed. I am in the tech, creative and entertainment fields. I actually think these fields you speak of are for real brainlets. Don't get me wrong, it's useful. But there's nothing impressive or interesting about any of these subjects.

Most biology and history students just hold knowledge. They don't actively do anything outside of spouting knowledge. Very few biologists are actually useful.

I on the other hand was referred as a tech genius in my first job in the area.

>>40789751
I am literally very superior tho

>>40789783
>Nope, different concepts. Cloning and gene editing are not the same thing at all.

Again you're completely wrong, don't you understand that when you edit someone's genes you make them X% similar to the original sample; IE X% "cloned". Misuse of this could lead to genetic bottlenecks or mass die offs later down the line, not to mention the haphazard ruining of any control group for selection outcomes.

>muh tech bro

You're an Indian crypto scammer or an IT nerd.

>>40789801
Nope

Cloning is creating an exact copy of an organism

I am neither.