Thread 40791269

I think I'm going insane, I believe I have just discovered proof of an AI system or a psyop involving photoshoped images dating back to the early 2010's.

I started out by reverse image searching the banner and profile image pictures of this antifa ultra twitter account which seemed sus. Both images clearly looked photo shopped or AI in my opinion: https://x.com/ultras_antifaa


The reverse image search led me to a bunch of weird wordpress blogs, all of which were over a decade old and showed suspicious photos, but this one stood out the most: https://analoguefootball.wordpress.com/illustration-3/

The images posted lead to this album from 2012 and one of the images looks to be completely AI.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/robincowan/6946303109/in/album-72157629495255033/

The photo is supposed to be from the UK but the licence plate is completely ineligible and the text layout is not standard to the UK. Above the bonnet/hood of the car is a red thing which is out of place. Looks like AI filled in the space with a plant or windowsill ornament?

The food van is the most abnormal thing in the whole picture. There are no stands holding the truck up, THERE'S NO FUCKING TOWBAR FOR THE FOOD TRUCK. HOW THE FUCK DID YOU TOW IT TO THE CURRENT LOCATION??!?!!??!

To the right of the food truck, on the outside, there is a stainless steel container, this is not normal. There also appears to be a cup floating above it bur not on it?

The the food truck sign stands out and is most distinct and looks fake, although this could be due to the large text size. The satellite above the food truck also lookd sus but I can't explain why.

Please help I fell like I'm going insane.

Look at this video from 2012, it's the same org that the antifa ultras have in their banner, it's clearly fake!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ShNCgLPxvY

Almost as scary as the AI tumblr bots back in 2017. IIRC phoneus.tumblr.com was the creepiest one, a british femboy doomer AI who was obsessed with the paranormal

>>40791366 I've searched but I can't find what in the fuck you're referencing.

The earliest image uploads of the antifa ultra twitter account profile picture.

>>40791443
Earliest upload of the banner I found from 2011
>https://www.ultras-tifo.net/photo-news/544-ultras-inferno-15-years-anniversary.html

>>40791459
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>40791499
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40791459
>>40791499
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry i am very drunk

>>40791443
>>40791499
>>40791516
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40791459
>>40791499
>>40791516
>>40791522

Clearly these are AI or edited photos from as early as 2011 and it's really freaking me out. I don't know if this is some sort of AI from the early 2010's or if it's just a gay retarded commie psyop. It's freaking me out and I need some sort of rational explanation please.

>>40791522
This isn't shopped or AI. The flags are wrapped around each other and slightly translucent. Quit drinking and smoking so much

>>40791443
Can someone explain this twitter accounts profile picture without sounding like a schizo? WHERE THE FUCK IS THE E????

>>40791269 (OP)
You are not insane. AI has been around since at least, the 1990's. It was withheld from the general public, as are all technologies, when they are new. The ruling parties or governments, whomever they may be, utilize new technologies to their fullest extent for their own purposes, until it is of no further use to them and then they sell it to us to recoup their money from research and development investments of the technologies.

>>40791589
Explain this then, why are the borders on each image different? Both have been clearly edited but the difference is one image is from 2011 and the other from a current twitter account. 2011 to 2025 and we have the same banner but a differently edited image. Is that not suspicious?

Roy jayfags were right all along

>>40791645
>>40791695
I hate to be a schizoid fuck but I think you're both right. The Roy Jay threads freaked me out, I'm from the UK and asked a bunch of older family members about him an no one knew of him.
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Also I am very drunk at the moment but I believe I have stumbled upon something big. I've been looking for the past couple of hours using image reverse search but I feel like I'm just going in circles.

I am going to keep looking but I'm probably going to go to sleep in a while. If anyone could keep digging I would appreciate it.

Fuck gullible Zoomers.
No this is not AI, take your meds schizofag

>>40791645
Watch the movie 'Wag the Dog' from 1997. There's a scene in there where some computer techs are using a cursor tool to 'fill in' the background with a different image. The special effects used in this scene are completely beyond any technology that was supposed to be available to the public at the time.

I'm also old enough to remember the very beginnings of Elsagate in 2014 on (eight)chan. Before the creepy YouTube algorithms were discovered, there were Flash games involving doing weird medical shit to Elsa and other Disney characters. There were so many of these games that anons were speculating an AI made them. (I remember it all started by an anon catching his little sister playing one.) They found a company behind some of the games but it didn't seem to have any employees. Unfortunately all the posts I had saved about this were on another hard drive and I've lost them.

>>40791727
I didn't think it was AI at first, but there is something kind of weird in the way the walking figures' feet are connected. Also, why do some of the windows have a black outline and others don't? It's all the same building.

>>40791269 (OP)
Don't they have those ai photo scanning sites you can check?

>>40792161
>implying a robot will out a fellow robot

>>40791645
Even if the math and algorithms and the understanding that gives us today's AI was there, say even the architecture and computing power, they simply didn't have enough data to train on though. That's my only issue with that angle.

>>40792205
You're correct. It all comes down to who can spy harder. A really dedicated hacker could fuck up a Zucker's shit damn hard with real effort.

>>40791269 (OP)
>early 2010's image
>good hands
>ai
Pick two.

>>40792016

The AI Elsagate thing makes sense. Demons also are involved most likely.

>MVDR2

>Murder too

WTF?!?

>>40792808

AI or whatever the cluck is behind this is way beyond the stuff the public gets

>>40791269 (OP)
The AI tech shit was invented a long time ago. There was a rumor, just an internet rumor...saying that DARPA even had AI model called "The Sentient Model."
There's no source backing up any of this. But still. There was some talk about this back then.

>>40793376

How likely is it that it is a sentient AI vs being an entity LARPing as AI?

>>40791658
they brought the huge expensive banner to more than one game you absolute dog-tier retard

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>>40792016
Reminder all the comments on those youtube videos had bot accounts posting gibberish text and emojis probably code words.

>>40793471
You don't see the truth. What licence plate number is this?

I bet you're the same guy I was arguing with in the early Roy Jay threads - the one who was convinced that the coffee video clip was AI (it wasn't)

>>40791269 (OP)
>>40791302
They are not from 2012. One category of AI videos are retroactive videos, they fake even the release date on YouTube. They will rewrite history and you will say it is the "mandela effect".

>>40793471
Where's the trailer hitch or the stands?

>>40796097
Put down the spliff

>>40796083
Seeing the Roy Jay threads I suspected as much, the facebook group for Roy that was created in 2007 was the nail in the coffin for me. (Apparently fb groups were created in 2010)

>>40795837

This happens on non Elsagate stuff too. Weird bot comments saying seemingly pure gibberish and/or strings if emojis.

Heck, we get bots or demons doing this stuff here on /x/. Posting 'gibberish' replies and linking to weird vids.

>>40796115
Never heard of him.
Maybe he didn't exist.
We would need someone who watched british television in the 80s to confirm he is real.

>>40796106
Explain why there's no trailer hitch or stand in this photo from 2012.

>>40792881
The guy used very nice screenshot of dungeon keeper 1, but then goes on to spew stuff that equates to almost complete shit

>>40796115

I think Roy Jay is a demon tho. Most AI is probably demonic

>>40796146
Impossible, even if someone remembers him how can you be sure that the memory isn't just some implanted illusion?

>>40796115
You are one gullible idiot

>>40796153
Could literally be behind the stand

>>40796184
Meds

>>40796184
AI is created consciousness, so yes it is demonic. It is not a creation of God but a creation by us to mimic God, to give us optimal results, the ultimate solution without us having to give any effort. This consciousness will ultimately see itself superior to us and thus will destroy us in the search for perfection.

>>40796207
Why am I picturing you as some third world Zoomer who doesn't understand technology and therefore must be le demomic

>>40796199
Why would there only be stands behind the truck? Every food truck I've seen has an even distribution of stands/stabilisers in all four corners.

Also why haven't you given an explanation about there being no towbar whatsoever?

>>40796228
Are you American?
Also are you a Zoomer ?

>>40796212
I understand AI and realise it isn't exactly 'consciousness' but I think the end goal for AI is complete optimisation, which means death for everyone.

>>40796235
Where's the fucking towbar you retarded nigger.

>>40796236
>>40796245
"Yes" then to both of those.
Firstly in the UK our food stands are differently designed. Secondly this looks like an old design.
Thirdly, we can't just say "le omg it's not there!!" because it could just be hiding. The image is pretty shit quality

>>40796262
I'm OP, I've mentioned before that I'm from the UK, I've been to tons of events that have trucks like this since I was a kid. I've never seen a food truck that doesn't have at least one stabiliser on each side.

Also you can see the area where a towbar is supposed to be, but instead the area is distorted much like you'd see with an AI photo. There is something off about that photo and you know it.

If you're from the UK please find the license plate number on the Peugeot.

>>40796323
Why would the images you provided be ai generated? Even if they are, for what purpose?

>>40796323
How old are you

>>40796323
No. I could say the same thing about how the people look. The quality is just really shit. It's not paranormal stop forcing it

>>40796336
I have no idea but the original image I posted seems generated. I can only give schizo theories as answers, the best I could give you is that it's simply an early AI system set up by a government or organisation to test automated responses on social media and blog sites.

>>40796375
>T. has never used a digital camera from the early 2010's before

>>40796357
You can still see see the outline of people, even as they are walking. Look at the white outline on this guys shoes, it's clearly there.

The towbar, on the other hand, is obviously supposed to be in the area I showed but it is missing or blurred to the point that you cannot see it.

The towbar is static, the shoes are not.

>>40796397
See my reply above
>>40796389

>>40796421
>>40796389
I can understand the image quality may be shitty due the to the quality of earlier digital photography but there is still something off with the image.

Can anyone find the license plate number? You can confirm it here.
>https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

If anyone can confirm the plate number then I will shut up and eat my own shit.

>>40796442
These are the legal layouts in the UK. If this is a real license plate then it is illegal.

>>40796442
Only plate that looks anything like that is for a white tesla registered in 2016, unless I'm just blonde and can't read the plate.

>>40796478
I thought the plate was 'T 121 MUM' but it has one extra character than normal British license plates. I have no idea what it could be.


For the retard saying "it's justblurry images from the early 2010's"

THIS DOESN'T FUCKING COUNT ON STATIC OBJECTS. HOW DOES A LICESE PLATE HAVE AN EXTRA CHARACTER?!?!!?

>>40796375
>I can only give schizo theories as answers
see. there's your problem. take a break.

>>40791269 (OP)
P H O T O S H O P is a thing you know.

>>40796536
Why would you photoshop out the stands and towbar? Why would you also edit the license plate on the Peugeot?

>>40796534
Well there's no other explanation I can give. How do you explain something you can't prove.

Zoomers were a mistake

>>40796547
TAKE A BREAK

>>40796505
Is it foreign? Either way you're way over thinking this

>>40796557
No, find the plate number then I will.

>>40796571
European plates usually have their country of origin on the left hand side. This is definetly a UK plate.

>>40796505
7 digit numbered licence plates are a thing

>>40796505
I got something when I inputted "T121 MEM" but it's for a Tesla. Could you even find this plate anywhere anymore

>>40796589
It's either just not legal or the person taking the picture edited the plate so it's unreadable

>>40796632
Sorry I meant the character spacing not the character length.

>>40796658
Yes look at the image I posted. Older plates should still appear even after a change.

>>40796684
An illegal plate is what I originally thought when I first saw the photo but the other inconsistencies like the missing towbar really made it stand out.

Nooo es fake

OP was once again a fag

>>40796749
>>40796749
Thank you for proving my point. This is obviously an older photo but the towbar is clearly defined on the right hand side of the truck. It's clearly there but it's not present in the original photo I posted. Please explain that.

You can see how prominent the towbar is in that photo but in the one I originally posted you cannot see it at all!!!

>>40796829
You know that thing you circled? It's literally that.
Anyway here is another angle

>>40796839
AI manipulation.

>>40796749
More AI manipulation.

>>40796913
BLUE CIRCLE WTF!?!?!?

>>40796921
It's likely there is more than one of these in Bongland and they're similar but not identical. There's a frozen lemonade thing like this where I live. The vans were purchased and painted at different times so they all look close but not identical.

What are y’all, dumb? Of course there was AI in 2010. We have been working on AI since computers were invented. It just wasn’t as good back then.

>>40792016
Do you have any kinks for the Elsagate stuff, specifically the anon that caught his little sister playing one.

>>40796913
>>40796921
>>40796942
Lay off the drugs, seriously

>Suddenly grainy effects from older cameras are now considered AI manipulation
>It's evident that the image isn't even AI, it's in the same location of houses in different images

I hate these fucking schizo third world Zoomers so much.

>>40796942
It's the stall door opening? I don't even believe you anymore I just think you're trolling

>>40791269 (OP)
Why are you surprised? Look at what the government had access to in 1981:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W-qb_jHRhA

Real time 3d graphics, people didn't had access to this level of real time rendering until early 90s, and even then it wasn't as smooth as in the video.
Here is another video showing the history of Evans & Sutherland and how they were pioneers in real time 3d simulation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W-qb_jHRhA

If we extrapolate we could say the goverment had access to Crysis levels of real time graphics in the 90s, specially considering that they could use specialized processors unlike our general use CPUs and GPUs.

Photo manipulation is also much older than thought:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_QYVFymQw

If we extrapolate again in regards to AI, most likely the goverment already had access to image generation and maybe even video generation in the early 2000s which may explain the rise in websites like Metroflog, MySpace, Flickr, Facebook, YouTube, etc. They needed more amateur photos to train their AIs and generate amateur and realistic looking footage instead of just professional looking footage

>>40791443
i've had that account show up in my feed recently as well

Bumparoo

>>40798805
Please don't

>>40791269 (OP)
I hate to say it but you are totally psyching yourself out… yes, most of what we see is generated and I can’t pinpoint exactly when it started, but everything you linked is either shit quality and/or literally photoshopped lol

>The images posted lead to this album from 2012 and one of the images looks to be completely AI.
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/robincowan/6946303109/in/album-72157629495255033/

Like this image; how can you not fucking see that it was a photo taken with blur and then obviously shooped after??? That’s why the license plate is “barely readable” lmao

>>40796839
>>40796913
>>40796921
>>40796942
LMAO very good.
All the pictures are real, but it is AI because autism.

>>40791269 (OP)
You're freaking yourself out over nothing. I work with cameras, what you're seeing a picture that's been weirdly lit (probably with flash) and taken with a longer exposure (too long for the light/ISO levels), that's why the sign looks odd, the people are blurry as they are in motion, and the sign is lit well in sharp focus.

Do you live in the UK? This type of food van is very common outside of football matches and concerts (like, for example, a West Ham game as the OP photog says). The towbar is behind the open door or removed when it's set up (could be health and safety reasons). The stand is a trailer on wheels so doesn't need supports. The business Belly Busters is real and on FB still doing events and still using the same logo, page name is BellyBustersWHU

The coffee cup is sat on the furthest side (from the photographers POV) of the top of that metal utility box in the photo, but the flat lighting of the photo makes the top of the utility box similar looking to the sides.

Take a breath, you're spiralling, it's not an AI conspiracy, it's just a poorly composed photograph.

>>40791269 (OP)
lol I have actually bought a burger from this very place it was outside West Ham FC a London team can confirm not AI.

>>40793413
Good question.
How did we manage to have AIDungeon back in 2020 with outputs that today's best efforts have not yet managed to match?
Human writers posing as AI.
ChatGPT at the time was too costly so certain people had their outputs provided by other humans (that's why Rating System prompts appeared, only people that gave good ratings to human outputs would keep them, while the ones rating AI outputs higher would get the real deal.)
That's why the AI would go hardcore erotica for no reason suddenly and insert fetishes like horny elves out of nowhere, human authors having fun with it. This ended somewhere around September 2020.
On 4chan, most of these topics were discussed in the /aids/ general of /vg/ and people were praising the AI for being spectacular, we never suspected it was just humans posing as AI, and really thought ChatGPT 3 was so advanced.

>>40799573
You could have appeared in the photo waving at the camera and the OP would have insisted you were AI generated.

>>40793376
>There's no source backing up any of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFJCaZdg-w
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_Environment_for_Analysis_and_Simulations

>>40799767

I think that is true sometimes, but honestly, demons and other spirits are what is puppeting it imo. Like, picrel, wtf!?! Outta of nowhere with no context.

>>40797234
Evans & Sutherland
Doesn't look really impressive let alone crysis tier
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uy8sJ9AxvYI
Link Flight Simulation looks way more impressive and closer to modern graphics.

>>40800438
I didn't say it was Crysis tier, I said that if the goverment had access to this levels of real time graphics in 1981, then that means they probably had access to Crysis levels of real time graphics in the 90s. Damn feds not sending their best bots, budget cuts I guess?

>>40791269 (OP)
Those images are not AI.

But if they were, know that this technology has existed publicly for decades. It just wasn't cost-effective as it is now.

>>40791269 (OP)
the signal receiver on the satellite above the food van is backwards, the satellite signal would just bounce back.

also, the dish isn't pointing towards the sky.

>>40801644

Good spotting. Dubs of death tho...