Thread 40832815

Do you care if the world "ends" anymore?

>>40832815 (OP)
do you?

>>40832815 (OP)
oh fuck off. "the more you know" what is that NBC? fuck you

>>40832815 (OP)
I welcome it. Better that than Jewish slavery.

>>40832815 (OP)
yes because I'm not an eschaton worshipping loser with no life, hope, or purpose to living. worshipping apocalypses is the lamest thing a person can do (not saying you do)

we got stars to colonize and sheeit. imagine painting a picture with magnetars. so much to do

>>40832836
No. The degree of personal loss I have experienced means I have nothing left for me in "the world".

>>40832857
sounds like a you problem and not a thread problem?

>>40832846
>waaaah a few million inbred hicks with fake money crammed into poisonous garbage cities make propaganda I don't like. better kill everything.
you can be better than this

>>40832815 (OP)
the world as we know it isn't real anyway; it's just an effect of the mind virus.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibz-gPkTMDM

Yeah, I do, but faggots like OP should be thrown out for garbage pickup.

>>40832866
>sounds like a you problem
It's a microcosm problem as a symptom of the greater macroscopic problem of the evilness of reality itself. By personal loss I mean I am grieving for someone who was very important to me.

>>40832869
>le heccin based Jesus AI slop pic #49588945

>>40832888
putting your lossses onto somthing else sounds like a somthing different to meeeeee

>>40832972
>putting your lossses onto somthing else
This reality is designed and it is designed in such a way that people feel unimaginable grief when their family members die before them. That is evil and cruelty baked right into reality in an unavoidable way.

>>40832815 (OP)
This association is completely retarded since it overlooks the fact that LAM lacks the hands-dpwn most distinguishing trait of Greys: their eyes.

>>40833354
goggles fuck it

>>40832815 (OP)
No, Satan rules this evil world.

>>40832815 (OP)
I hope it does, there's way more bad than good in it.

>>40832815 (OP)
You have to be okay that you may never fulfill the things you want to fulfill in this life, that even if it gets impossibly dark you are still going to find your own peace

That’s the test

>>40832815 (OP)
Every single fucking time I find something I really care about in this hellscape it is inevitably taken away from me
So
No

>>40832815 (OP)
I'm actually looking forward to it. I've seen what's really going down and the issue isn't man, the issue is Satan. Being Spirit, he cannot die. If you get rid of the evil people, he'll just prop up a new nation to continue the same shit again and again, ad infinitum.

We are being processed and filtered and those worthy of living in a properly functioning earth where everyone is in alignment to what is absolutely true and good will get to. Whereas those who seek to interfere with such things will be justly condemned.

>>40835199
>>40835810
Why did God make Satan despite knowing he would turn evil then give him complete control over the world once he did?

>>40835869
You are arguing with spiritual toddlers.

nope. only retards and the evil who feeds off of said retards wish to live here

>>40835869
God didn't make Satan. God made the angel with free will who ultimately chose to rebel. Satan chose to become Satan the second he chose to rebel against God.

>>40835869
Also, doesn't have complete control over the world. He has control of the worldly. Huge difference, wouldn't expect you to understand, however.

>>40835898
In a similar manner in that we are condemned until we either decide to repent in which we will no longer be condemned, or not repent and remain in our condemnation. God doesn't make us repent, God doesn't make us not repent and God doesn't judge anyone unfairly.

>>40835904
>Also, doesn't have complete control over the world. He has control of the worldly. Huge difference
Just make shit up to "win" arguments, yeah

>>40835913
John 15:19
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

>>40835941
Satan is the "prince of the world", he controls the world. You seem to have forgotten what we were arguing about you stupid christnigger

>>40835969
No, Satan rules the worldly, i.e those who indulge in sin.

Isaiah 66:1
This is what the LORD says: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?

>the earth is my footstool

>>40835982
>the earth is my footstool
Yet he cedes control of the world to satan, who is called the prince of this world. It's not out of character for him. He was happy to let Satan directly ruin Job's life just to win a bet with him.

>>40835986
No, He does not.

Psalm 22:28
for dominion belongs to the LORD and he rules over the nations.

Luke 10:17
The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”

>>40836000
>No, He does not.
Then your argument is incoherent, because your usual justification of why there is evil in the world is because it is a "fallen" world, ruled by satan

>>40836013
Yes, fallen world. Not ruled by Satan, however Satan rules over those who do not seek to partake in God's offering of Salvation. I dont understand why you have trouble grasping this.

>>40835898
>muh free will
Thought-terminating cliche, you see something that scares you and respond with this to make the scary thought go away.

>>40836013
>your usual justification of why there is evil in the world is because
Also, share my post history since you monitor my internet activity apparently and show me where I've specifically said that with the same implications you think it means.

>>40836026
>Yes, fallen world. Not ruled by Satan
Then you can't claim God is fully good for creating an evil and corrupt creation.
>>40836028
This

>>40836028
Without free will there is no judgment, no sin and no forgiveness. You can hate the argument all you want but it is reality.

>>40836040
Right, free will justifies any amount of suffering because without it God can't send people to be tortured forever for sinning and we wouldn't want that would we?

>>40836035
Show me where it explicitly states God created an evil world. All that is merely your interpretation of it. I can show you where it clearly states God created this world good and that through Adam and Eve's negligence to adhere to God's 1 rule, caused the world to fall. God didn't create it that way, that is a result of Adam and Eve's negligence to do right. And through their wrong, repercussions of their actions followed.

I bet that concept scares you, huh? Accountability? That's why you hate the idea of free will.

>>40836047
Yes, it does. Because suffering is sourced from the very fact that man chooses evil over good.

>>40836059
>God didn't create it that way, that is a result of Adam and Eve's negligence to do right
Are you implying God didn't know what they would do? Then he is not all knowing, and the Bible says he is. I've had this same argument with you people hundreds of times and you always spout the exact same garbage that doesn't hold up when you think about it for five seconds. Free will doesn't exist in a universe with an omniscient supreme being.

>>40836086
God having insight as to what will happen doesnt mean He caused it to happen. That's a false equivalence. Try again.

>>40836089
>God having insight as to what will happen doesnt mean He caused it to happen
When you're the creator, yes it does. Because you are creating each human with full knowledge of everything they will ever do. "He" causes all things to happen

>>40836096
>When you're the creator, yes it does
Youre entitled to your opinion. However, you arent God. So, realistically youre just arguing nonsense. Again, show me exactly where it states God created the world evil. The exact opposite is clearly shown.

>>40836103
>Youre entitled to your opinion. However, you arent God.
I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 4. You are not even acknowledging the question because the most profane interpretation of the scripture tells you not to. We are on different levels.

>>40836103
>Again, show me exactly where it states God created the world evil. The exact opposite is clearly shown.
He put adam and eve in the garden, he put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden, he put the serpent in the tree. If he didn't intend for Adam and Eve to eat from the tree and become "fallen", they wouldn't have had an opportunity to. The "free will" excuse doesn't work here because since God is all knowing, he knew that they would eat from the tree

>>40836129
God also put the tree of life in the garden and didn't forbidden the consumption until after they sinned, how convenient that you forgot this because it has gigantic implications.

Free will isn't an excuse and it's exactly why Salvation only works if the individual ultimately decides to genuinely repent. So free will exists within the faith because of the very fact that judgment of our sins, sins being our personal actions and choices against God, and Salvation only being possible if the individual willfully acknowledges their wrong before God.

Again, you're entitled to your opinion, but none of your arguments are in alignment to what thr Bible states.

What you have is a faulty interpretation. But according to you, we have no free will. So, you will never have proper understanding, because you don't have free will, and thus can't muster up the motivation to properly learn. So you're forever stuck in a stagnant state. You've never made one decision in your life and you can't even back out of this discussion even if you wanted to, since you can't make that choice and its already been made for you.

Therefore, what is the point of even having this discussion if we have no free will? Without free will, I cant decide whether what you're saying is true or not. It has already been decided for me. Therefore this discussion is ultimately meaningless. So why would God create a meaningless and pointless scenario?

You see how absurd the notion is?

>>40836163
>God also put the tree of life in the garden and didn't forbidden the consumption until after they sinned, how convenient that you forgot this because it has gigantic implications.
Why create a tree that you don't want them to eat from in the first place? Especially when you are described as omniscient in your own holy text, and you will know exactly what they're going to do.

>>40836163
>Without free will, I cant decide whether what you're saying is true or not. It has already been decided for me.
Yep!

>>40836179
>Why create a tree that you don't want them to eat from in the first place?
What part of
>didn't forbid until
Did you not understand? Why He forbade it after is clearly explained. You can read for yourself.

>>40836186
You have the free will to decide that's how you want to perceive your existence here on earth, and I will respect that. Have a good day.

>>40836103
>>40836129
>>40836163
http://www.bibleorigins.net/SerpentNingishzidaBibliography.html

http://www.bibleorigins.net/Pre-biblicalOriginsofEdensSerpentinMesopotamianMyths.html

Ningishzida was considered the son of Nianzu identified with Ninurta, and he with Hercules. Hercules is possibly Bel. Caduceus is associated with Ningishzida and is used in Christianity (and a huge pine cone from the temple of Serapis-Isis-Horus stands in the Vatican)

The Sumerians had a tree of knowledge underground, according to myth, people are created by a horned goat with a snake tail, Enki or Egyptian Khnum (Apam Nepat in the Vedas, Apsu is already mentioned there, and Apsara is associated with them)

btw
https://www.academia.edu/38359556/Who_was_the_deity_worshipped_at_the_tent_sanctuary_of_Timna?source=swp_share

btw
stuff of Moses
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiuhcoatl

>>40836067
Yeah everyone deserves to suffer because six thousand years ago two people ate the No No Fruit. Insane that anyone believes this in the modern day.

>>40836179
Ah, I'm guessing you meant the forbidden fruit. My understanding is that free will cant exist unless the opportunity to sin against God exists.

>>40836200
I'm talking about the tree of knowledge of good and evil, not the tree of life. Try to keep up.

>>40836214
Are you telling me that you don't think people should be held accountable for their actions and behavior?

>>40836213
Nonsense

>>40836216
>My understanding is that free will cant exist unless the opportunity to sin against God exist
God is supposed to be the omnipotent, omniscient creator being. He could create a world and people to live in it where everyone has free will and they also have such pure nature they don't even want to sin against God. You keep claiming God is all mighty but keep underselling his abilities.

>>40836220
>Try to keep up.
I'll do my best.

>>40836228
He is omnipotent and omniscient. Free will cant exist if you're creating people with a strong bias towards a concept.

>>40836213
btw
Ningishzida GUARDED THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE

and he had snakes sticking out of his shoulders and myths about three-headed creatures exist all over the world and often they are not very good guys (but perhaps Ningishzida is not unique in this regard)

because Nergal, who can also be equated with Ninunzu and Ninurta, also had snakes sticking out of his shoulders

>>40836222
>Are you telling me that you don't think people should be held accountable for their actions and behavior?
NTA, but I didn't make the decision to eat the fruit. It is unfair that I, and you, and everyone else is punished for it.

Christians shut down all interesting discussion on this board and think their basic pastor approved understanding of scripture is "based" and "deep". There really should be a religion board or they should move to /his/, because there is nothing paranormal or esoteric about any of this discussion and this is the paranormal esoteric board. Why do they even stay on this board, full of things they get mad at? Other than to feel persecuted of course, their greatest fantasy.

>>40836228
And another thing, they were created pure. It was due to their own choices to rebellion against God that brought sin into the world. And sin continues to be in the world so long as at least 1 individual chooses to practice it.

That's why a filtering process has been established.

>>40836222
>Nonsense
Cope

It's hard to accept, I understand, but everything is connected.

>>40836239
>Free will cant exist if you're creating people with a strong bias towards a concept.
Wrong. They would still have the option to do evil if they would want to, but everyone's character would be so pure they wouldn't want to. The option would still be there, but no one would choose to act on it.

>>40836250
>It was due to their own choices
Their own "choice" that God clearly knew was going to happen and enabled

>>40836245
I'm not talking about the consumption of the fruit. I'm talking about now. Are you telling me that people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions and behavior?

Everything you've said after is really unecessary.

>>40836265
>I'm not talking about the consumption of the fruit. I'm talking about now
Well I am talking about the consumption of the fruit. Since that's your entire justification for why things are the way they are. People only sin now allegedly because of their "original sin".

>>40836253
>everything is connected.
Impossible, for the Bible states there is only one God and that the other gods are false idols.

>>40836255
>everyone's character would be so pure
i.e strong bias which intervenes with free will.

>knew was going to happen and enabled
Again, free will cant exist without the opportunity to sin against God.

>>40836274
Yes, but unlike the one who sin was brought into the world through, we have knowledge of what sin is, why it's bad and what we can do if we don't want to live in sin anymore. God isn't going to force anyone.

>>40836281
>le Demiurge because the guy were stalking is a gnosticismo.
A jap gnostic, black Shinto
No Demiurge here, merely turning into yokai

>>40836281
>i.e strong bias which intervenes with free will.
How is humans having an evil nature and being biased towards evil not violating their free will in the same way?

>>40836289
>we have knowledge of what sin is, why it's bad and what we can do if we don't want to live in sin anymore
If Adam and Eve didn't have that knowledge (which they didn't), why would God punish them for it at all, if he is good? Every time you try to explain this you just make it worse.

>>40836299
That evil nature is due to the fallen state, a repercussion of the sin they committed. It wasn't how Adam and Eve were initially.

>>40836310
They didnt commit any sins, if you're mentally handicapped so as to be unable to tell right from wring you're not guilty

>>40836307
Because the proclamation of salvation was planned ahead of time. The Bible makes it clear the qualifications of judgment that those will face who didn't get to hear the Gospel and those who never heard of the faith or any of these things.

Any more questions?

>>40836319
>Because the proclamation of salvation was planned ahead of time
Adam and Eve didn't know that

>>40836281
>Bible states
WOW

You opened the line-by-line translation of the Bible. Elohim = Gods. And everyone had their main gods. El, Enlil (El is actually connected with Elohim and this is connected with the Sumerian Elohim. Jesus on the cross says Eli/Eloi). You can call them not gods, but deities (it's more logical), but nevertheless.

Although okay, if you are deeply religious, then there is no point in arguing, such people have everything very hardened in their brains and they consider 99% of religious scriptures to be myth and only Jewish truth. How this is possible in principle is not entirely clear.

(texts in honor of God in Biliya correspond to hymns in honor of Hadad from Ugarit and the Jews were connected with the Phoenicians, they were also influenced by Greek, Egyptian, Iranian myths. The greatest influence was exerted by Iranian myths of course, Christianity is in principle connected with Zoroastrianism)

and do not forget
ABRAHAM WAS FROM A SUMERIAN CITY. You can cope with this as much as you like, but the fact remains a fact, and these were times of close contacts. The Sumerians wrote that the gods wear melam/melamu and it is unclear who interacted with Abraham

https://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm

https://www.logos.com/ugaritic

smokingaziggurat.com/he-will-swallow-up-death-for-ever-struggles-with-death-in-the-baal-epic-and-the-bible/

>>40836318
>They didnt commit any sins
Now you're just being disingenuous. If you want me to continue, please argue honestly. The fruit didn't give them any understanding of anything, it just put them through the process of doing something God forbade. By doing so, they took it upon themselves to think they can determine for themselves what is good and what is evil. That's the "knowledge" they gained, which isn't knowledge at all, just arrogance and pride.

>>40836321
And thus they will be judged like those who didn't get to hear the Gospel. Any more questions?

>>40836329
You dont realize you are accusing me of the same thing you're guilty of and look down on me for it. All you're doing is pushing what you believe is true due to conclusions that make sense to you. You cannot fundamentally test your theories, you just go by what little info you can gather.

>>40836334
Arguing in bad fairh and deliberately lying not to mention gaslighting is haram and a sin

>>40836334
See>>40836297

>>40836352
Make the post make sense, all I read was jibberish.

>>40836355
No anon, you don't get yo play dumb.
I achieved gnosis in my religion, which turns you into a yokai I know today, and not knowing this, I mentioned gnosticism on 4chan as a thing that was real. Three minutes later, and 4chan filled with the fakest bullshit Christians possible.

Because you believe in a Demiurge, which I don't. I believe in a Battle between gods of light vs Darkness.

>>40836380
Cool story bro.

Anyone else? Or are we done?

Farewell and good day then.

>>40836404
>he says as he keeps f5'ing the thread

>>40835869
>Why did God make Satan
Because there is a grand plan for human development unknown to most. Satan provides the resistance required to separate the wheat from the chaff. God has plans for the wheat and their journey is just beginning.

>>40836431
>separate the wheat from the chaff.

Its creepy how often you guys use harvest imagery. You ARE being literally harvested, there is no love involved.

>>40836444
Have you ever considered things could be much worse? That perhaps we have dodged many a bullet already without knowing it?

>>40836586
>what if

>>40836265
I don't think I deserve to be tortured forever because of anything I've done, what the hell are you doing that makes you think you do?

>>40836756
>what the hell are you doing that makes you think you do?
Christianity

>>40832815 (OP)
The movie Super8 has an alien with a label as a demon like this

>>40836342
>only jewish myths are true

>>40836297
>yokai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atago_Gongen
uh... huh......

>>40836380
What's it like?
I might have done the same, not sure.

>>40832815 (OP)
No, because I am almost positive that quantum immortality exists and that the cyclic universe theory is real, so we will eventually be here again, hopefully in a better world. Look on the bright side though it could be much worse

>>40832815 (OP)
never have

>>40837114
Our best days are ahead of us!

>>40837374
Since we never die, the worst days are ahead of us, too!

>>40832815 (OP)
recently I started being infatuated with starting a Doom Metal band and trying to bring about the end times by making Ishtar (praise be upon her) walk the earth again.
I think I'm kind of bored by life in a western nation.

>>40837449
>recently I started being infatuated with starting a Doom Metal band and trying to bring about the end times by making Ishtar (praise be upon her) walk the earth again.
Based (and redpilled!)

>>40837424
Nice! :P

>>40837449
Beast does what beast wants but you do you.

>>40832983
and its up to you to manifest release from it

I would lose nothing
while super mega evil people would lose everything

>>40835898
Lucifer isn't Satan, you disgraceful mental midget.