I can't get past Islam's idea of the crucifixion - /x/ (#40833319) [Archived: 176 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:31:17 AM No.40833319
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It is so stupid that the event actually happened but it wasn't Jesus it was just someone that looked like him bro. I know there are non-canonical gospels that support this theory but it is still so fucking stupid. I'm thinking about becoming a Quranist Muslim because I had a djinn tell me Islam was the way when I was trying to do a ritual to Ishtar.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:41:48 AM No.40833363
>>40833319 (OP)
Jesus is the only way to the Father
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:07:24 AM No.40833468
>>40833319 (OP)
this belief alone makes islam so absurd
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:08:10 AM No.40833679
>>40833363
Why did God need himself to die on the cross to redeem humanity from sin?
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:18:49 AM No.40833705
>>40833319 (OP)
why are you listening yo djinns? You know they lie, right? Hail Ishtar.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:25:04 AM No.40833716
>>40833679
He didnt need to it was a gift for us to make salvation more possible
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:26:46 AM No.40833722
>>40833319 (OP)
>I had a djinn tell me Islam was the way when I was trying to do a ritual to Ishtar

It's probable that these are just different types of demons you're communicating with, and you're being rail-roaded by unclean spirits into believing lies.

Jesus has dominion over them all btw - think about what that means, OP.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:58:19 AM No.40833830
I legit just want to create a new Abrahamic religion but I know that would be misleading others so I'll instead just follow it for myself.
>>40833705
>>40833722
The fact that a djinn was trying to stop me from worshipping a pagan goddess and instead encouraged me to follow Islam shows me that djinn have no idea what is going on either and don't know what religion to follow. If Christianity were the truth why would a djinn intent on deceiving want me to follow something that is more closely related to Christianity?
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:26:36 AM No.40833903
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>>40833319 (OP)
>Ishtar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpOvc--uKMo&ab_channel=piotralski1
Pooh
8/1/2025, 9:40:40 AM No.40833937
>>40833830
thats a pretty harebrained take respectfully man. Just because theyre "closely related" which even that is a reach doesnt mean a djinn wouldn't want you to follow the very religion that grandfathers spirits in as some legitimate race.
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Pooh
8/1/2025, 9:42:55 AM No.40833945
>>40833937
Also following Ishtar an ancient God with no real cult left is pretty dumb. Just read bible and be a Nue Jew if you hate Christianity that much, it makes more sense. I commend you for at least picking a deity that doesnt have a known track record of human sacrifice. That at least is something.
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Pooh
8/1/2025, 9:56:42 AM No.40833990
>>40833945
+ Actual muslims I know would laugh if you said you were considering following the advice of a djinn.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:04:05 AM No.40834017
>>40833937
>Just because theyre "closely related" which even that is a reach doesnt mean a djinn wouldn't want you to follow the very religion that grandfathers spirits in as some legitimate race
Why the hell would a djinn intervene in the first place then? Why would a demon follow a religion themselves and want someone to follow a religion that preaches righteousness?
>>40833945
>Also following Ishtar an ancient God with no real cult left is pretty dumb
At the time, I thought that Ishtar kept appearing in religions underneath different figures and that her modern interpretation was Mary.
>Just read bible and be a Nue Jew if you hate Christianity that much
It isn't that I hate Christianity, it is just that I don't believe in Nicene Christianity at all. The Trinity and the divinity of Christ is mostly disproved by reading and studying the Bible and early Christian history. Without the divinity of Christ, I don't see how the crucifixion is justifiable in any way which makes it hard to genuinely be a Christian. I've tried to turn to Gnostic texts but a lot of them are straight up nonsense and feel demonic. The whole idea of this reality being made by an evil/lesser god who somehow isn't stopped by the original and good supreme God doesn't make sense to me. The Bible is also partially corrupted and it feels weird picking and choosing what I want to believe just because something doesn't feel right and or has been shown to be corrupted. Examples of this would be Jesus saying he didn't come to abolish the law of Moses but goes ahead and contradicts Mosaic law (I'm not including instances where he challenges the interpretations or practices of Judaism at the time). Other instances of corruption in the Bible would be where God flat out states in Jeremiah 7:22 that He didn't demand burnt offerings or sacrifices yet a big part of the Torah is laws regarding these burnt offerings or sacrifices.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:15:18 AM No.40834049
>>40834017
didn't read
you're obviously a jew trying to lead people astray
get behind me satan
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:15:54 AM No.40834051
>>40833319 (OP)
>while worshipping a Mesopotamian God refuted by Islam I got told by a non-Mesopotamian entity that Islam says is evil that I should take up Islam and I am now concerned about an event that is not particularly important to Islam
Frog posters larps are a ride.
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Holy Ghost
8/1/2025, 10:20:12 AM No.40834063
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>>40833319 (OP)
Fucking called it!
https://youtu.be/oQEVZsCDha0
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:20:13 AM No.40834064
>>40834049
>you're obviously a jew trying to lead people astray
"Other instances of corruption in the Bible would be where God flat out states in Jeremiah 7:22 that He didn't demand burnt offerings or sacrifices yet a big part of the Torah is laws regarding these burnt offerings or sacrifices."
>>40834051
Djinn can be good or evil. I also swear on my own life this isn't a LARP, I could tell you more about the paranormal experiences I had after and before it if you want.
Pooh
8/1/2025, 10:20:16 AM No.40834065
>>40834017
Gee I dunno maybe because like I said above Islam has something of a reverence for djinns and gives them more life than most mainstream religions, its a true /x/ religion in that regard, very paranormal oriented folks.
Also its a demon maybe consider its giving you the wrong religion to follow for personal salvation? I mean, it makes sense. Muhammad's accounts of angelic experience sound pretty demonic.

The Ishtar theory is cool but probably pretty crackpot. But there is a sort of eternal feminine/mother in most religions including Catholicism.

I agree with you about Nicene Christianity being improbable and based off only a few select biblical quotes but disagree with the divinity of Christ being disproved by the bible, the new testament, the very book that tries to claim his divinity. Can you explain why you think this?

Most gnostic texts are bollocks and theres evidence the modern tradition was started by Simon, a powerful magician in Jesus' time who was mad he couldnt "buy in" to the holy spirit.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:38:05 AM No.40834129
>>40834065
>Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
>But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
>You heard me say, โ€˜I am going away and I am coming back to you.โ€™ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
>Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, โ€˜My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.
>...I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.
>By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
>Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.
>My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
A lot of the strongest verses for Jesus being God comes from John which was written like 60-80 years after Jesus died.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:39:58 AM No.40834136
>>40833716
Like in the gospel of Goku IV when he sacrificed himself the destroy the evil demon Raditz? Wowee!
Pooh
8/1/2025, 11:26:01 AM No.40834279
>>40834129
By scholarly consensus you are right. However to be fair a lot of the arguably older books also argue for his divinity pretty explicitly.
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Pooh
8/1/2025, 11:28:16 AM No.40834286
>>40834129
Also "My God why have you forsaken me" isn't even an argument for his divinity, in fact quite the opposite. Why would someone one with God appeal to God as does a regular religious person?
Every Jew at the time considered Yahweh "their God" as well as the true God
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Pooh
8/1/2025, 11:36:53 AM No.40834303
>>40834279
Having been somewhat of a layman in the Bible I have looked into it and even the letters of Paul written probably in his middle age contain references to Jesus' divinity.
Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 11:40:13 AM No.40834308
>>40833319 (OP)
>I was trying to do a ritual to Ishtar.
Anon...why are you trying to commune with a Babylonian pagan idol?...
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:43:50 AM No.40834315
>>40834308
Because I thought that there was an eternal battle between Babylonian gods and El/Yahweh.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:18:32 PM No.40834416
I'm honestly so fucking scared of the afterlife because of this experience. The djinn literally looked like those Hindu depictions of wrathful deities mixed with Japanese hannya masks. Well it looked like a cute black woman at first and kept transforming into a face similar to those entities.
Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 12:48:14 PM No.40834469
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>>40834315
>eternal battle between Babylonian gods and El/Yahweh
Amerixa is Babylonian Cairo. This is why there is an obelisk in DC and a pyramid on the money.

https://youtu.be/gPX1wVD6094

You were praying to the God I fought against, the nose-Jews sided with Babylon, but once they realized I defeated their God it was revealed they were siding with Egypt. The same Egypt that enslaved the Jews, hence why Biden wore a Trump hat, and why nose-Jews promote Christianity now.

It is the Holy Spirit, but it requires eternal wars to maintain its global dominance, hueman sacrifices, this makes it Satanic. Baal, Moloch, etc...cycles repeating for thousands of years. They cant see G-d, hence why they fall into worshipping Moloch/Baal/etc.

It *technically* has a Genetic component, but thats a little too off topic here and now. The "war in heaven" is an "eternal" one but it seems huemans, for all of recorded history, didnt know one from the other definitively. Just that there were "two-deis". The "sky being" prefers "One Allah" and not a bunch of random idols, especially female ones.

>>40833319 (OP)
>non-canonical gospels
The they dont accept is the Gospel of Muhammed, he hasnt been the first one to promote Islamic type Theology in the Bible, its repeated and all the way back to the first books of the Torah, it was just not "in full"/two left hands instead, which the Holy Spirit has two rights (it takes, it doesnt "give or yield").

So instead of a mosaic collage its one Prophet in one book without interruptions, instead of over the course of hundreds or thousands of years.

Or the Gospel of Joseph Smith, who hybridized Christianity with Islam, and had a number of things correct, namely the Father and the Son being livint beings that walk the Earth (the two-deis), and the Spirit being incorporeal.

Allah being the Third of the Three of them. Having said that I...declare a different perspective, namely Male-Female, in between in Spirit.
>Whats a woman?
Oh?
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Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 12:58:17 PM No.40834499
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>>40834469
>Allah being the Third of the Three of them.
Since the Father has within himself the Son as well, this order doesnt make sense to me, I deal directly with Satan, no inbetween.

How the Holy Spirit is created is polaric.
>>40834469
>Whats a woman?
First man, inversely woman, with these two there is a centric, third, pole of reference exists. A negative space that exists because the pole do, getting rid if the poles is a snake eating its own tail; sacrifices must be made to maintain civilization. Without this polarity there is no center, and the center doesnt create, it alters (or corrupts) what has already been created.

https://youtu.be/tN6baopMq9s

Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb.

Afghanistan went with polaric perspective, and is stable, ISIS went centric, and devolved into sectarian infighting (until the end when its ceased the black flag).

Which survives to "tomorrow" is without doubt now.
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Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 1:08:03 PM No.40834522
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:22:20 PM No.40834572
>>40833679
Christ's own message of redemption was for the Jews, not the gentiles.
The NT was written entirely by Judeans that converted to follow Christ, then edited and revised by everyone else. Christ did not reject gentiles, but was sent as the Messiah promised to the Jews. Saul/Paul preached to the gentiles, his own voluminous writings reflecting his station as a pharisee and enforcer of jewish law. Paul spoke extensively about the Holy Spirit, which added a layer of complexity to the original straightforward belief. As Paul wrote half the New Testament, Saul used the concept of the Holy Spirit combined with God/Christ to recreate Christianity in Babylon's image.

Jesus Christ died for the sins of the Jews, which were the babylonian practices that were brought back to Jerusalem after the exile. Ritual blood sacrifice of animals and humans.

The Judeans that were following Jesus during his ministry, the first generation of Christians, were systematically purged by their Judean (Babylonian) brethren, Saul of Tarsus being the hammer of the Pharisees, and then Rome as the new faith spread.

Subsequent generations of Christians were slowly molded by the seven orthodox churches, and then Rome.

While the Holy Spirit is real, it's concept in Christianity was used as a tool of a Babylonian Pharisee. Jesus instructed his followers to turn and pray to God. Paul instructed his followers in the Trinity. Transubstantiation was introduced by Rome a thousand years later to complete the return to the babylonian practice of eating human flesh and drinking human blood.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:33:52 PM No.40834613
>>40833319 (OP)
That's what you get for taking the most retarded, most half baked schizo religion seriously
Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 1:40:42 PM No.40834636
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>>40834572
>Christ's own message of redemption was for the Jews, not the gentiles.
Matthew 28:19-20
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations[...]"
...but also, on another note;
"[...] I am with you always, to the very end of the age.โ€

Are we in the Age of Pisces, the double ichthys, right now?...or is this the Age of Aquarius?

Luke 22:10
https://youtu.be/JcuS-zFrueQ

>Saul used the concept of the Holy Spirit combined with God/Christ to recreate Christianity in Babylon's image.
Sounds a lot like to me two perspectives, centric and polaric, trying to come to terms with themselves, the very thing The Father does but only he can, otherwise its two opposing references to reality.

>Paul instructed his followers in the Trinity.
Three hemispheres of the brain, God-Head, Christ Consciousness, it only counts if its in harmony with the heart, otherwise its definitionally "Schizo-Phrenic".

>the return to the babylonian practice of eating human flesh and drinking human blood.
You means the hueman sacrifices for quarterly profits and sinful practices? Yeah, sounds like the West to me...
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Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 1:52:35 PM No.40834657
>>40834636
>redemption was for the Jews
John 4:22
"Salvation is *from* the Jews"

Bloodlines, mixing and creating "prophet-gods". Its related to Eugenics. They couldnt tell which perspective they were supposed to evolve towards (centric or polaric), but the Jews here, the real one, are inherently centric (their "poles" both point inward), so Prophets would confuse this with what they were supposed to go towards and instead of it adding a "center third pole" to their dual-poles they devolved back into itself.

Temples falling because of it, but centric is repeatable and absolute, it never changes, like a pyramid. Hence "olde ways".
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Pooh
8/1/2025, 1:57:27 PM No.40834669
>>40834572
Even olde Judaism wasn't just for the Jews, that's a new belief born from persecution. It came to them specifically because the family h.
Cult of Passion
8/1/2025, 2:13:19 PM No.40834706
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>>40834649
Many Christians foster a culture of becoming willing sacrifices to Moloch, believing it to be a non-sacrifice if theyre the ones dying, but it doesnt work like that.

He was more concerned about the emotional wellbeing of the killer and his family than "his own", people that slandered and and rationalized his son's death.

Matthew 7:23
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
He even says in this interview that he expects them to lie and cheat, yet he mingles with them anyway. Wilfull ignorance + blind trust = ruin. He is tempting Satan. Women do this a lot, fuck with men to get a reaction then use the reaction to be the victim, its Satanic.

https://www.wfaa.com/video/syndication/ott/extended-interviews/one-on-one-interview-with-austin-metcalfs-father-after-fatal-frisco-track-meet-stabbing/287-35e31372-2f90-4477-a9fd-c7dd389c61ee

Its faithfully walking into injustice, that isnt Christ like, its Satanic because youre being an active agent in your own demise.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:43:57 PM No.40835424
>>40834706
What
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:35:35 PM No.40835892
1.

Even the Bible clearly infers this idea. In it, Jesus comes back to his followers who are shocked and think he is a spirit or ghost. Jesus says something like "I really am real and made of flesh and blood, look at me and touch me, I eat what you eat, etc I'm not dead and I'm not a ghost. j came back to let you know that I'm going up to God." After that he ascends into heaven in front of his followers.

And before that, Jesus even walks with his followers after his death but was made to be "unrecognizable" until later. Which made it clear that God can make people appear different, the same from who they are, and Jesus was somehow in disguise.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:39:06 PM No.40835910
>>40834572
>Transubstantiation was introduced by Rome a thousand years later
why would you just lie like this?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:41:59 PM No.40835917
2.

And this is really weird because it's like Jesus, Peace be upon him, was beggung rhe Disciples (called hawariyoon in the Quran) that he never died, that he somehow escaped, that he was disguised and now he is ascending to God for a later purpose(to be the messiah and kill the antichrist when he reveals himself and has his reign of tyranny over the earth). This is addressed in the Quran.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24&version=NIV

The person who resembled Jesus Pbuh was possibly Judas, who was probably also Thomas. Thomas is called "the twin" but no one in Christianity knows why. But the nag hammadi collection tells us and clearly explains that Judas was Jesus's look a like, to the point where Jesus says people will confuse them as twins. The word for twin in Aramaic is very similar to the name for Thomas, and these ancient texts more/less strongly suggest that Thomas the twin was probably a mistranslated nickname for Judas.This makes sense as when Jesus returns to the Disciples after the Crucifixion, only 11 of his followers are there in most books Thomas/the Twin is the missing one. (And we know from other chapters that Judas had died sometime before or during the Crucifixion - just put off to a suicide according to most Christians.

https://www.biblewise.com/bible_study/questions/was-thomas.php

It is clear from the Bible, with a background of true Monotheism, that Jesus, peace and mercy upon him, clearly calls himself a prophet, his disciples call him a prophet, that he is present after the Crucifixion in flesh and blood, and that he ascends to God, not to become a god. With that knowledge one can clearly recognize and sift out the Roman "propaganda" and storytelling, that truly stands out from the rest of the Bible, and begin to see a clearer picture of what happened to the son of Mary. And that narrative is again confirmed, without corruption, by the Qur'an.
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:43:15 PM No.40835923
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>>40833319 (OP)
you have gotta be some towel headed shill to say something like that. or am i retarded?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:43:40 PM No.40835924
"And their saying(of the Jews and Romans), 'Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.' And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but \[another\] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it **except the following of assumption**. And they did not kill him, for certain." (4:157)

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"Rather, Allah raised him to Himself, and Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
(4:158)

Dont follow assumption
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:51:09 PM No.40835956
>>40833319 (OP)
It's especially stupid because the Qur'an doesn't actua-
>thinking about becoming a Quranist Muslim because I had a djinn tell me Islam was the way when I was trying to do a ritual to Ishtar.
Oh wait, nice troll.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:52:06 PM No.40835965
>>40835917
Explain the โ€œMy Lord and My Godโ€ exclamation and the touching of the stigmata.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:54:33 PM No.40835978
>>40833990
I say salam to all Muslims and appreciate all my brothers and sisters in islam, whether they be from this Dunya or from the Ghaib

1. Say, โ€œIt was revealed to me that a band of jinn listened in, and said, โ€˜We have heard a wondrous Quran.

2. It guides to rectitude, so we have believed in it; and we will never associate anyone with our Lord.

3. And Exalted is the Grandeur of our Lordโ€”He never had a mate, nor a child.

4. But the fools among us used to say nonsense about God.

5. And we thought that humans and jinn would never utter lies about God.

6. Some individual humans used to seek power through some individual jinn, but they only increased them in confusion.

7. They thought, as you thought, that God would never resurrect anyone.

8. We probed the heaven, and found it filled with stern guards and projectiles.

9. We used to take up positions to listen in; but whoever listens now finds a projectile in wait for him.

10. We do not know whether ill is intended for those on earth, or if their Lord intends goodness for them.

11. Some of us are righteous, but some of us are less than that; we follow divergent paths.

12. We realized that we cannot defeat God on earth, and that we cannot escape Him by fleeing.

13. And when we heard the guidance, we believed in it. Whoever believes in his Lord fears neither loss, nor burden.

Quran 72:1-13
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:54:44 PM No.40835980
>>40833319 (OP)
kill yourself frog posting twitter immigrant
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:11:17 PM No.40836071
>>40835980
Been here since 2015 bozo
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:18:19 PM No.40836119
>>40833679
but you answer your own question. he had to experience humanity and cry out to god in his final moments. some serious stuff actually and i dont wanna get all emotional but yea
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:59:15 PM No.40836366
>>40836071
Exactly.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 4:41:28 AM No.40838558
>>40836119
>he had to experience humanity
So God is limited in comprehension?

>>40835917
>now he is ascending to God for a later purpose(to be the messiah and kill the antichrist
>and kill the antichrist
"Jesus the blood sacrificer."

This is diametrically opposite of Jesus' message of "no more blood sacrifices". This is why he flipped tables in the Temple, they were filled with animals being sold for a blood sacrifice, it was a Temple of Death. The Jews became worshippers of Death, not Life (the Way, or the Truth).

Worshipping the Sky Spirit leads to idol worship (you worship the thing you idolize; most perfect (To You) most good (To You) most moral (To You)), hueman sacrifices, and an inability to tell the Truth to one's self (so they speak lies "truthfully" because they themselves believed the lies.)

>true Monotheism
A dangerous concept, because it forces one to unify gendered energy within the self. Uni-Gender is Uni-Party, the One Allah. This is why the "radical muslims" side with the Democrats (the defacto Uni-Party) and also why the Democrats called that dead ISIS leader a "religious scholar", but hate what the Amerixan Allah does...its self hate, you love half of Allah and hate the other half. The exact message Jesus was sent to give, loving half will make your Temple fall.

Judas love, Jeses hate.

>โ€œDo not annoy me regarding โ€˜Aโ€™isha, for inspiration has not come to me when I was in any woman's garment but โ€˜Aโ€™ishaโ€™s.โ€
He is reconciling two opposed energies, he must either become the Father (Polarically one vector, leaving feminine energy up to the woman) or become the One Allah (and become partially both, half sun and half moon....split the moon in half.)

>black men "rode" Muhammed
Very liberally sexual, *what* Muhammed was is sloooowly coming out, I already know, and know more.

>>40834636
>centric and polaric
Two ways to create "Mono", either expanded out and incorporating more, or reductionist. One vs 1.
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 4:49:24 AM No.40838591
2023-07-20_22.21.31
2023-07-20_22.21.31
md5: 63dc21a422752ede6ef0b4deecefd7fb๐Ÿ”
>>40838558
>its self hate, you love half of Allah and hate the other half
>>40834499
>https://youtu.be/tN6baopMq9s
>Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb.

The Mahdi walks the Earth.
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 5:02:51 AM No.40838636
>>40838558
>Judas love, Jesus hate.
Even Jesus has a "undesirable" aspect when incorporated into the self, this is why the Jews rejected Jesus (as a society indefinitely). Passions, both the suffering aspect, but also uninhibited love...not "personal gain pleasure" but genuine physical-love.

So....Jews cut out their own hearts to not be under the control of its passions, but doing so also cut them off from empathy, morality, and objective Truth.

Hence, (the Way) the Truth (the Life). Cutting out Truth (to prevent sins) also cuts out the Path to Heaven, and this leads to Death.

Without Truth morality becomes only what is personally profitable, and is why the Democrats dont care about Truth, only power and control.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 5:30:49 AM No.40838748
1744236647943389
1744236647943389
md5: 5e44073ea75992c79b537e062ba7e879๐Ÿ”
https://youtu.be/vpSvX52AgBU
"Role reversal of genders was Egyptian."
[cant find the timestamp, somewhere in there]
>>40834469
>Amerixa is Babylonian Cairo.
A Matriarchy. Because when both genders become "equal" (One) the only difference between them is which one breaks the Law.

Eve. The protagonist, the actor, not acted upon, Adam followed, he did not lead. They are an "equalized creation". The Real Jews.

The True nature of Adam and Eve, of Jesus and Judas, of Muhammed and the Holy Spirit.

>but i choose to worship the invisible sky entity
Idol worship, it's perfection is your perfection, it loves what you love, it hates what you hate, it fits in you and anything that doesnt isnt it. If it pleases, it is, if it doesnt, it isnt.

https://youtu.be/_3Pfu4LQTHc
Hidden to the self idolatry.
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 5:42:18 AM No.40838807
geomz2
geomz2
md5: 417fc2f440e58facf424b72e23c62548๐Ÿ”
>>40838748
>Egyptian
>The Real Jews.
"Rootless international cliquรฉ."
Because they travel from one land to another, as part of a global Eugenics operation.
>>40834657
>*from* the Jews
This is why ancient sites like Easter Island, Angkor Wat, and Giza, are Geometrically aligned, and why stones cut in Machu Picchu are completely identical to Giza.

Hybridize, growth, Empire, and eventual spent...then the Empire must move to a grounds as continuation of reproduction would be partial incest, and ever generation be even more incestuous.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 6:14:50 AM No.40838976
images - 2025-08-02T075634.335
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md5: 47981e276bee7719c4e0e7574b7b6616๐Ÿ”
>>40838591
>The Mahdi walks the Earth.
Hence why the Saudi prince purchased this painting.

>The people of Yemen are on the verge of ascending upon you as if they are clouds. They are the best (people) on Earth.
The people that sided with Gaza (who are hueman sacrificers via Developmental Cognition and Genetics, and is why all of it's neigbors do not want the Palestinians in their country). (So too are the Isrealites, but they baited Gazans...not good, I know, but...it is what it is.)

>Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.
Between "the two poles".

Oneness and de-gendering has been confused as the same for many millenia...in seeking "a God *centered* perspective" it can "trap" you. The only way out is to, Phenomenologically, kill yourself in the process.

Otherwise you will interpret death as good, and life as bad, inverted morality. Lying will bring joy and Truth will sting.

>"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"
Reminds me of an ISIS nasheed, "We love death just as you love life."

I fully believe them.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:33:07 AM No.40839056
>>40834286
The account of absolutely retarded theology I've read in this thread is really proof that Morans should not read by themselves!

Firstly only God could pay the debt owed for all human sin. No human child pay that debt, payment of which is death, and ressurect showing the debt was paid. Christology 101.

Secondly, the Marian dogma goes back to genesis, the seed is the woman will crush the head of the serpent. Start there and stop lapping pagan dogma into a reduction you don't understand.

Thirdly, one example of many of Christ fulfilling the law but not changing it is his sacrifice on the cross. In mosaic law at Passover a lambs blood was shed and it's flesh consumed for the forgiveness of sins of the Jewish people for that year. Christ, killed on Passover, became the eternal lamb of the Passover.

Fourthly the trinity comes from the old testament starting at genesis and carries on from there. Not a new testament concept and even the Hebrew words for God are plural not singular in the Torah. Go check!

The trinity was also spoken about in the Didache, oldest Christian wetting and the letters of St Ignatius, disciple of the apostles about 200 years before the council of nicea.

Islam would be chosen by a demon as it's an unholy inversion of Christianity. Proof? A simple one of many is Yeshua (Hebrew) is Jesus (Greek) and Yasu in Arabic. However Islam claims ISA who's a perfect description of the false prophet in revelations. So who is ISA? Translating ISA from Arabic back into Hebrew we get the name Easu. And who was Easu? He was the brother of Jacob referred for all the by God!

Seriously buy a real book and stop being a literally prideful idiot thinking you have any understanding of how to interpret the Bible or church history.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:36:41 AM No.40839076
>>40834286
Again shockingingly bad theology. My God why have you forsaken me is Jesus quoting the first line of psalm 22 which is guess what? All about the final triumph of the Messiah. Seriously there's nothing worse than folks thinking they have knowledge. It's okay to be ignorant as Aristotle said the truly wise know how little they know. What's not okay is pontificating without any and I mean any knowledge on a topic!
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:40:31 AM No.40839103
>>40839056
Sorry phone typos in that but it should read *easu was rejected by God for all time. Check for yourself on any translation service
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 9:19:05 AM No.40839776
Fd106265
Fd106265
md5: 9a044bae4090f5ba993381daa8f15950๐Ÿ”
>>40838976
>The people that sided with Gaza (who are hueman sacrificers via Developmental Cognition and Genetics
https://www.jns.org/palestinians-weigh-in-the-real-reason-hamas-wants-to-sacrifice-them/
โ€œGaza has offered itself as a sacrifice for the Muslim ummah [nation] and deserves its full support in return.โ€
>>40834706
>Many Christians foster a culture of becoming willing sacrifices to Moloch

To whom is the blood-sacrifice made to appease?
Replies: >>40840261
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:27:38 AM No.40839808
>>40833319 (OP)
>it wasn't Jesus it was just someone that looked like him bro
Thats interpretation, the idea in the quran is the same as in gnosticism.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 9:29:05 AM No.40839815
ned-stark
ned-stark
md5: ae144e60be3a6ddb0c3212917668c603๐Ÿ”
>Abel, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>Cain, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>Moses, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>Soloman, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>King David, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>Judas, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
>Muhammed, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
Jesus, did not sacrifice, was sacrificed to the Spirit.

Who own's this plane of existence? To whom do you "wrestle" against? Or do you "go with the flow" of this world?
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
8/2/2025, 10:17:04 AM No.40839955
>>40833679
... he didn't. Jesus was tortured and murdered to prevent him from teaching revolutionary spiritual truths that challenged power, and then those responsible insisted their crime was "God's plan", but God does not will Evil, men do.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
8/2/2025, 10:19:28 AM No.40839967
Crucifying one man does not remove the sins of the world. That is not justice, and it is not true.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:26:39 AM No.40839993
sddefault (3)
sddefault (3)
md5: facfa267be7edb760d3f4082f9eebda7๐Ÿ”
>>40839955
>God does not will Evil, men do.
So the evils of this world are of Hue-Man of origin?

Then what good is a good God?
[flippantly shoo's away God]
Bring me the God of this world, the Hue'd-Man, the one that controlls the governments, the wars, the laws, the food, the medicine, the lives of all peoples.

The real God, not the "observer" in another Dimension that offers wellwishes and platitudes of future salvation from the very evils this world is gripped by.
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LUCIFER !!P38zFLDUYUh
8/2/2025, 10:33:33 AM No.40840015
>>40839993
>Then what good is a good God?

Truth, Love, Beauty, Order, Justice, the Creation of the Heavens and Earth and infinite worlds, Existence itself, Souls, and so on
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:42:30 AM No.40840052
>>40840015
>Truth, Love, Beauty, Order, Justice, the Creation of the Heavens and Earth and infinite worlds, Existence itself, Souls, and so on
>>40839993
>the "observer" in another Dimension

They literally cannot define it without pointing to another reality all together...

"Its all things good and no things bad."

>Truth
Who's? Based on what?
>Love
>>40838976
>"We love death just as you love life."
"Love" kills just as easily as hate.
>Beauty
Self pleasure, eye of the beholder.
>Order
Role reversal is order as well, chaos is order from a different perspective...order to you may be disorder.
>Justice
Blood sacrifice? Is there justice in the animal kingdom? Do see justice in the west with its "soft on crime" approach? Legalized murder is the races are "correct"?
>the Creation of the Heavens
Where? And what bearing does that have to the evils Im witnessing Right Now?!
>Earth
But evil rules the world, I just covered this...that God has no power here, Hue'd-Man rules this plane of existence.
>Souls
Corona shows the power is held by evil, power hungry, Satanist...again, WHAT GOOD IS YOUR GOOD GOD IS SATAN RULES THE WORLD?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:47:55 AM No.40840078
bossgirl lujan
bossgirl lujan
md5: cf73325207c564021f38015e3b5ac453๐Ÿ”
>>40833319 (OP)
>I know there are non-canonical gospels that support this theory but it is still so fucking stupid.
there is a reason why non-canonical gospels are non-canonical anon
from what I gather, the prophet of Islam conjured up his religion using a hodgepodge of Christian fan fiction, Manichaeist texts, and obscure Judaic speculations... all on a substratum of devil worship (which the Arabs practiced even though they had Judaism next to them, and then Christianity too)
it most certainly has its merits, but otherwise you'll have to draw your own clownclusions
>I had a djinn tell me
is that like a gay male succubus? lol
s
8/2/2025, 10:49:36 AM No.40840087
>>40833319 (OP)
could've happened, maybe Rome got the wrong guy
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:49:50 AM No.40840088
>By April 2020, about half of the world's population was under some form of lockdown, with more than 3.9 billion people in more than 90 countries or territories having been asked or ordered to stay at home by their governments.
Satanist, took control, bless'ed by the Spirit.

The world has a Satanic bend to it...its leans, by default, into Satanism...you clearly cant put two and two together with the picture I posted with what I said, you just blurted out "platitudes and wellwishing" like a blind, idolatrous, Satanist.

[spits]

You are of this world...
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 11:10:50 AM No.40840172
baal-worship-1248x898
baal-worship-1248x898
md5: 8359da990405e5760ac87624e975b523๐Ÿ”
>Approximately 73 million induced abortions occur worldwide each year, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

"Do not conform to the pattern of this world."...for this world is evil.
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 11:15:07 AM No.40840188
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05631167673c3e55d6eafd5e7051845c
md5: ace66690f0d257d884679b38d4924400๐Ÿ”
>>40840172
>each year
EVERY.
>>40840015
>Existence itself
YEAR.

Who' existence? Why do you think they killed babies?! For quartely profits, literally, to be able to have a sinful society and it not collapse (by natural Order).

For Freedom (to do what thou wilt).
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 11:19:47 AM No.40840199
911-_President_George_W._Bush_Addresses_Joint_Session_of_Congress,_09-20-2001._(6124236009)_(cropped)
>>40840188
>For Freedom
"They hate us for our freedom."

Correct...and rightly so.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 11:34:35 AM No.40840240
2025-08-02_13.27.42
2025-08-02_13.27.42
md5: 1412ec0db95aa2ad4ccd709da45d7f2a๐Ÿ”
>>40838976
>baited Gazans
Baited.

Hamas' ties to Israeli intelligence, the CIA's ties to Osama Bin Laden, playing both sides, controlles opposition, even back during the Cold War era...they did this.

>>40834522
>https://youtu.be/VrdnGmAESrk
Ukraine, that was me. I, unknowingly, got right up to the line...the world WANTS warfare, it YEARNS for Total War.

(Gaza is a by-product of my mere existence, not "my doing" per se.)
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 11:42:59 AM No.40840261
>>40840240
>playing both sides
Israel assisting ISIS, EU paying more to Russia for gas than spending on Ukraine to """win the war""".

>>40839776
>https://www.jns.org/palestinians-weigh-in-the-real-reason-hamas-wants-to-sacrifice-them/
"Hamas offers Gaza as a sacrifice not to God, not to freedom, but to the very forces who benefit most from the endless warโ€”"
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:16:22 PM No.40842171
>>40839815
>>Muhammed, blood sacrificer, bless'ed by the Spirit.
when?
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:22:21 PM No.40842198
Screenshot 2025-08-02 221915
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md5: 753968f89ac07c71908482e573bff875๐Ÿ”
>>40840261
>trust pro kike propaganda
when the hamas guy said that he meant it as a metaphor
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 9:38:35 PM No.40842262
>>40842171
>when?
Dont ever post at me again.
>https://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/meccan10.htm
"When Muhammad conquered Mecca, he gave orders for the execution of 10 people."

>>40842198
>he meant it as a metaphor
Haha, oh, that changes everything. Hear that, everyone? Theyre not dying, theyre metaphorically dying.

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
"In February 2020, former Mossad Director Yossi Cohen and Israeli general Herzi Halevi, under Netanyahu's orders, went to Qatar to plead Qatari officials to continue the payments for Hamas."
"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended allowing transfer of millions of dollars to Hamas-run Gaza."

You have the political depth of a middle school kid...dont post at me.

>kike propaganda
You literal, fucking, Zog-golem.
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Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 9:43:59 PM No.40842281
2022-10-17_19.06.49
2022-10-17_19.06.49
md5: c6dbbec4861bb0df144a792ab247f541๐Ÿ”
>>40840240
>controlled opposition
>>40842198
>Screenshot 2025-08-02 221915.png
Now youre polarized to either side with the enemy or be what you are. Zog'd. Exactly where they wanted you...a justification for their actions.

What is a master without a slave?...nothing.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:03:30 PM No.40842361
2022-11-02_15.32.18
2022-11-02_15.32.18
md5: 43c2324738b97b25b78600f49d52b546๐Ÿ”
>>40842262
>went to Qatar to plead Qatari officials to continue the payments for Hamas
The dont fucking care what side youre on...they just want you to pick one and promote it with your soul. You evolve into it.
>>40840261
>endless war
Eternal is the goal.

Sick of you agents of Satan clapping at me with dumb shit you didnt think through, reading my posts like Im one of you.

No, you and "God" have more in common than either of you have with me.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:15:40 PM No.40842407
2023-03-16_13.19.20
2023-03-16_13.19.20
md5: faa3d1935e0ea96ea823603a401f4788๐Ÿ”
>>40834469
>The same Egypt that enslaved the Jews

Enslave the slavers.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:20:29 PM No.40842423
>>40833319 (OP)
>djinn tell me Islam was the way when I was trying to do a ritual to Ishtar.
Djinn have their own agenda, though some do follow Islam because it has them in it and they are self obsessed.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:23:50 PM No.40842439
>>40833716
why does he have to kill a jew to make salvation easier? isn't he almighty?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:32:56 PM No.40842472
>>40833319 (OP)
There's a cope for everything. Have you heard that it wasn't really the Jews that killed Jesus? He was betrayed by puppet jews in authority that the Romans installed to placate people so really it's Rome's fault. People use this argument to hate Christians for killing Jesus. You can't make this shit up.
Cult of Passion
8/2/2025, 10:34:04 PM No.40842474
300px-Angry_Man_Pointing_at_Hand
300px-Angry_Man_Pointing_at_Hand
md5: a4838a224b79e26823fb5f33a902f483๐Ÿ”
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Central_Command
"In January 2021, Israel became the 21st country of the CENTCOM AOR, added to another 20 nations including Afghanistan, Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq,[...]"

Why do you think "anti-Semitism" is trending around the world?....Who did this?

Released from bondage and no longer under protection...Free-dom.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:23:58 AM No.40844371
>>40833319 (OP)
bumo
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:28:13 AM No.40844382
>>40833319 (OP)
>becoming muslim because a demon told you to
wow
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:30:13 AM No.40844390
>>40833679
I don't know, but he appears to be legit based on paranormal research. The fact his name repels demons, and saints who worship him having miraculous powers they never asked for. As opposed to magic, which is when you seek power and get it from demons.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:42:07 PM No.40845413
>>40844382
They seemed as if they were concerned for me.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:10:50 PM No.40846843
don't listen to demons fren