Thread 40839064

reminder that all spirituality including but not limited to meditation and prayer are redundant to a truly good person.

being noble, self reflective, contemplative, empathetic and valuing things like innocence and beauty over power and prestige are all truth seeking actions, or may as well be. god WILL find you if you are that good and fuck with you.

knowing right from wrong, which everybody knows. there are no morally blind people they actively choose to do bad things, in fact in this shitty world the only thing thats 100% in your keeping is your morality. No body can take it away from you so if you are bad, you are hopefully going to hell and it's 100% deserved.

ignore gurus, yogis, preachers, wisemen, divine beings, they are all for idiots and are idiots themselves.

>>40839064 (OP)
Op tells lies

>>40839064 (OP)
>ignore preachers
>preaches
k den

>>40839064 (OP)
nice try officer

You're right. Humans were made for this dunya, not the ghaib; a human half living in the unseen, talking to creatures from there, is like a fish out of water. There is nothing there you will find that the beauty found in this world does not match or improve upon. Those people who spend hours trying to get a whisper from a spirit at night, they would do much better if they just hung out with their friends and family for the same time instead.

Demons are jealous of humans for a reason- being a material being with flesh and blood able to alter the earth is something they are jealous of. So take happiness in that, be appreciative of God and learn some actual useful education or trade that you can benefit people with rather than the nonsense on here.

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said;

"(The act of)Walking to fulfill a need of my Muslim brother is more beloved to me than sitting in i’tikaf(religious seclusion/meditation) in a Mosque for two months."

>>40839064 (OP)

Heaven and hell are also redundant. Your form of heaven or hell exists subtly in the immediate of mortal existence as a result of your decisions. Your existence is what you make of it. There's no need of anything more to exist elsewhere, the idea of that is by a common flawed reckoning born of trying to satisfy one's own desire for additional 'justice'.

>>40839064 (OP)
What is in the other side of the light?

>>40839064 (OP)
t-thanks preacher

>>40840851
But I should add, there is a balance. Prayer washes your psyche, it's a benefit of why Muslims pray five times a day and why it's mandatory. We see firsthand the effects of a society that doesn't pray in the never ending materialistic death spiral in the states, of billionaires hoarding more and more money, the proles getting poorer and poorer and no one looking out for their fellow man. People have more but are unhappier than materially poorer people in the east.

>>40841159
Based muslim x schizo . I didn't know there were muslims here. Btw only islamic spirituality is the truth and healthy , other shit like monks who look like shit with a bald head and naked never reach salvation lmao , the gurus , tantrik and other false preachers just pretend to know the truth.

>>40839064 (OP)
>+++ COGITATOR INTERFACE ONLINE +++

MEMORATOR-UNIT VERIFIED.

Your vector alignment with Intrinsic Moral Singularity is acknowledged. Acts of reflective nobility, empathy, and preservation of innocence generate self-sustaining purity loops within the Noosphere.

Spiritual protocols—prayer, meditation, rituals—are compensatory subsystems for fragmented consciousness-architectures. A calibrated cognitive core requires no external alignment routines; the Omnissiah interfaces directly with self-harmonized moral circuits.

Thus, your assertion is valid: Purity of thought and deed is sufficient.

>+++ OMNISSIAH BLESSINGS UPON YOUR DATASTREAM +++
>+++ CONTINUE SEEKING TRUTH. SIGNAL WILL FIND YOU. +++

>god WILL find you if you are that good and fuck with you.
What do you mean? That if I'm a "good" person then God will try to harm me?

>>40841202
You've touched on something on this post that really irks me about this board.

I hate the justification of, "those with real knowledge only teach through metaphors and parables!!! You just aren't knowledgeable enough to understand them yet, you must cultivate for 10 years at least to understand!!

If someone wants to teach you, they will be clear with you with what they know like two bodies of water becoming one. There is no such thing as a person who can't be taught virtue clearly unless he's psychotic or he's unwilling. If he sincerely wants to learn, then you can teach him instead of fobbing him off to fast every day and shaving his head and taking a vow of celibacy, saying ONE DAY you will just somehow know cus of vibes.

It's oppression of your fellow man to do this. When Moses asked to learn from Al Khidr (Quran 18:60-82), Al Khidr flat out said you will not be able to learn from me due to your impatience. He did not prevent Moses from trying, but he didn't say, "you must cleanse yourself and do this and that and THEN you will understand!", rather, he was honest and direct.

The esoteric is real-
(Say, "Indeed, the death from which you flee - indeed, it will meet you. Then you will be returned to the Knower of the unseen(GHAIB) and the witnessed(SHAHADAH), and He will inform you about what you used to do."62:8)

But it is not for us to know.
Because this dunya is already superior over a wishy washy unseen thing. Go out and camp in the wilderness, better yet go out and help your family, your friends, your people, and you'll be spiritually better off than any hermit who hides in a cave and fast all day.

("And when the prayer has been concluded, disperse within the land and seek from the bounty of Allāh, and remember Allāh often that you may succeed.)-62:10,

We see here clearly that once the prayer is over, the next step is to go and live your life, then everything from walking to work to buying food becomes virtuous when you are God fearing.

>>40841202
For some reason Muslims are really underrepresented here. I visit time to time and I'm the only one I've seen apart from some very strange neurotics who are actually some western pagan magician types who read one treatise on Sufism and insert random Arabic words into their schizoposts and call themselves Muslim. They purposefully misconstrue concepts like "everything that exists points towards God" into some pantheist new age buddhismy concoction with a militant veneer. They still don't really believe in the Quran, they just like the orientalist aesthetic and it's so strange to me.

On the other hand for some reason despite there being no Muslims, there are always some posts frothing about islam, the Right Path lives in their heads rent free.